ALERT RUSSIA INVADES UKRAINE - Consolidated Thread

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JeanCat

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Red Baron said:
I knew but who else here would know?

wiki,

The Gleiwitz incident (German: Überfall auf den Sender Gleiwitz; Polish: Prowokacja gliwicka) was a false flag attack on the radio station Sender Gleiwitz in Gleiwitz (then Germany and now Gliwice, Poland) staged by Nazi Germany on the night of 31 August 1939. Along with some two dozen similar incidents, the attack was manufactured by Germany as a casus belli to justify the invasion of Poland. Prior to the invasion, Adolf Hitler gave a radio address condemning the acts and announcing German plans to attack Poland, which began the next morning.[1][2] Despite the German government using the attack as a justification to go to war with Poland, the Gleiwitz assailants were not Polish but were German SS officers wearing Polish uniforms.
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You indicated multiple such incidents. I heard Iin at least one incident Jewish prisoners were dressed up in German uniforms and then shot and left at the site. Is Gleowitz the one?
 
Melodi

Melodi

Disaster Cat
Red Baron said:
I knew but who else here would know?

wiki,

The Gleiwitz incident (German: Überfall auf den Sender Gleiwitz; Polish: Prowokacja gliwicka) was a false flag attack on the radio station Sender Gleiwitz in Gleiwitz (then Germany and now Gliwice, Poland) staged by Nazi Germany on the night of 31 August 1939. Along with some two dozen similar incidents, the attack was manufactured by Germany as a casus belli to justify the invasion of Poland. Prior to the invasion, Adolf Hitler gave a radio address condemning the acts and announcing German plans to attack Poland, which began the next morning.[1][2] Despite the German government using the attack as a justification to go to war with Poland, the Gleiwitz assailants were not Polish but were German SS officers wearing Polish uniforms.
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I knew I knew (but then I learned about it here from previous posts and from the History channel lol).
 
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northern watch

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Grumphau said:
I think it's clear that the US needs a viable ABM/ missile defense system. I hope there's something in the works but if not we need to get crackin'. The ABM treaties the US agreed to decades ago did not reflect reality and we hamstrung ourselves.
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I think that we can assume all arm treaties between the US and Russia are now null and void, if not in fact, but by practice
 
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northern watch

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PLA preparations in China: "Getting ready for the worst in Ukraine – US goal to defeat and split Russia"​

Stratcom: Possible collision with a nuclear power​

26/09/2022 - 17:10
War News 24 / 7

"The worst-case scenario of armed conflict in Ukraine is ahead of us", warns China, stressing that the US goal is not just to defeat Russia in the war but to break it up so that America can increase its influence in the Eurasian space!

The mouthpiece of the Communist Party of China, Global Times echoing his views, stresses that "countries must prepare for the worst-case scenario in Ukraine."

In more detail, the Chinese newspaper Global Times points out that a clear goal of the US is the defeat of Russia.

As the report states, political scientists who participated in a poll conducted by the newspaper, estimate that there are no signs of de-escalation of the conflict between Moscow and the West in the near future, stressing that "the parties related to the Ukrainian crisis should prepare for the worst-case scenarios, as the US goal seems to be clear: the defeat of Russia."

"But Russia's goal is also quite clear.

Having nuclear weapons, who will be willing to make compromises," asks a Chinese political scientist who speaks on condition of anonymity to the newspaper.

According to the Global Times, U.S. efforts to break up Russia in order to increase its influence in the eurasia area are triggering the worst possible scenarios for the armed conflict in Ukraine.

"In the U.S., some generals really want to break up Russia to eliminate the danger it poses, although in Europe what they want is just its transformation," says Wang Yiwei, director of the Institute of International Relations at Renmin University in China.

U.S. attempts to break up Russia leads to the worst-case scenario of a Ukrainian conflict."

The Chinese president called on the army to prepare for war!​

Earlier, during the conference on national defense and military reform in Beijing, Chinese President Xi Jinping noted that under the current circumstances, it is necessary to pay attention to the current situation in the world and "understand the demands of the tasks" facing the country.

"It is necessary to focus on preparing for wars.

"It is necessary to understand the new situation and the new requirements, to focus on preparing for war, to have the courage to explore and innovate," the Chinese president stressed.

According to Xi Jinping, "China's People's Liberation Army has a new structure and even a new look," because "institutional obstacles, structural contradictions, and political issues have been removed."

At the same time, it is important to note that China in the next two years may attempt to invade Taiwan in order to bring the rebellious island back under its jurisdiction.

Obviously, this will be done before the end of the Russian special operation in Ukraine. (will the war in Ukraine last two years?)

After that, large-scale sanctions by Washington and its allies against Beijing will follow.

The simultaneous confrontation of the United States with Russia and China will bend the collective West, whose economy will not withstand a cruel war of sanctions. It is quite possible that these are the long-term goals that Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping are trying to achieve.

Stratcom: Possible collision with a nuclear power​

In the US, ferments are escalating to deal with China and Russia. A. Richard, commander of the U.S. Strategic Command, participated in a discussion on important national security issues.

"All of us in this room are returning to the pattern of thinking about competition through crisis and possible direct armed conflict with a country that has nuclear power," he said.

"We haven't had to do that for over 30 years. The consequences of this are profound. They are deep about the defense of the homeland. They are profound about strategic deterrence, as well as about achieving national goals. And this is no longer theoretical."

The panel discussion on "America under attack — defending the homeland" took place during the Air & Space Forces Association 2022 Air Conference, Space & Cyber Conference, in National Harbor, Maryland.

Every plan and capability of the Department of Defense is based on the assumption that strategic deterrence, and particularly nuclear deterrence, is valid, Richard said. If this hypothesis is not satisfied, nothing is going to work in the way it was designed.

"Russia and China can escalate to any level of violence they choose in any area by any means of power worldwide," he said. "We just haven't faced such competitors and opponents in a long time."

Because of this, the department will have to change its approach to war, he said, adding that slower, traditional approaches to escalation no longer work.

In defense of the homeland, commanders should act quickly against an opponent in all areas: land, sea, air, space and cyberspace.

The review of the recently handed over nuclear doctrine presents an excellent strategy, he said. The strategy approves the modernisation of the nuclear triad and the command and control system.

"We need to implement this very good strategy as the threat from China continues to grow," he said.

«We don't know where this will end up, as the threat from Russia continues to grow, along with the other challenges we face."

Also on the panel were General Glen D. VanHerck, commander of U.S. Northern Command and North American Aerospace Defense Command, and General James H. Dickinson, commander of U.S. Space Command.

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Προετοιμασίες του PLA στην Κίνα: "Να ετοιμαζόμαστε για τα χειρότερα στην Ουκρανία – Στόχος των ΗΠΑ η ήττα και η διάσπαση της Ρωσίας" - WarNews247

"Tο χειρότερο σενάριο ένοπλης σύγκρουσης στην Ουκρανία είναι μπροστά μας" προειδοποιεί η Κίνα τονίζοντας πως στόχος των ΗΠΑ δεν είναι
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mzkitty said:
Huh. All kinds of miscellaneous tidbits on twitter today:

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Somewhere - perhaps upthread - was a report about a NATO ship performing exercises in the region of the Nord Stream pipelines, complete with a contingent of U.S. military personnel (?) on board.

I speculated that it could be western sabotage experts scoping out the Nord Stream pipeline in the seabed, or perhaps looking at the Nord Stream pipeline landing area, where it comes up out of the seabed and onto Russian soil/land.


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northern watch

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Putin ‘vanishes to secret palace’ as wave of protests spread through Russia​

Metro
Kirsten Robertson
Saturday 24 Sep 2022 7:28 pm

Vladimir Putin has reportedly hunkered down in a remote palace on 'holiday' as widespread protests spread through Russia.


The Kremlin leader has fled to his secret home on Lake Valdai, reports claim (Picture: AP/Navalny website/East2west news)

Vladimir Putin has reportedly hunkered down in a remote palace on ‘holiday’ as widespread protests spread through Russia.

There has been severe backlash to the Kremlin’s new plans for partial mobilisation.

Upwards of 300,000 people could be called up to fight as the invasion of Ukraine continues.

Desperation efforts to boost numbers even resulted in officers turning up at the door of a 40-year-old man – who it emerged had in fact died in 2020.

Activists fear mobilisation is being enforced in poor, ethnic minority regions to avoid triggering further anger in major cities.

Putin is now rumoured to have disappeared to a palace in the forest at Valdai, putting himself a safe distance away from the chaos triggered by his mobilisation announcement.

Journalist Farida Rustamova claims he has pre-recorded a number of videos to use over the coming days.

Sources say he is ‘resting’ at his Valdai home – rumoured to be surrounded by peaceful lakes and majestic forests.
Putin disappears to remote "holiday" destination in Russia


Drone footage showing main building in the land affiliated with??Yuri Kovalchuk

The mysterious palace lies around halfway between Moscow and St Petersburg (Picture: Navalny)

Russian President Vladimir Putin gives a speech during an event to mark the 1160th anniversary of Russia's statehood in Veliky Novgorod on September 21, 2022. (Photo by Ilya PITALEV / SPUTNIK / AFP) (Photo by ILYA PITALEV/SPUTNIK/AFP via Getty Images)

Rumours Putin has gone into hiding have raised further questions about his health (Picture: Getty)

His disappearance is likely to trigger more rumours about his health.

Ms Rustamova claims a trusted source said ‘that since last Wednesday evening, Putin has been resting “body and soul” in his residence in Valdai in the Novgorod region’.

The residence is said to boast a three-storey spa complex with a ‘personal beauty parlour’ nicknamed the ‘temple to his asceticism’.

Two floors are reportedly hidden underground area with a cryo chamber for extreme cold therapy.

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metro.co.uk

Putin 'vanishes to secret palace' as wave of protests spread through Russia

Rumours have spread that the Kremlin leader has gone into hiding.
metro.co.uk metro.co.uk
 
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northern watch

TB Fanatic
northern watch said:

Putin ‘vanishes to secret palace’ as wave of protests spread through Russia​

Metro
Kirsten Robertson
Saturday 24 Sep 2022 7:28 pm

Vladimir Putin has reportedly hunkered down in a remote palace on 'holiday' as widespread protests spread through Russia.'holiday' as widespread protests spread through Russia.


The Kremlin leader has fled to his secret home on Lake Valdai, reports claim (Picture: AP/Navalny website/East2west news)

Vladimir Putin has reportedly hunkered down in a remote palace on ‘holiday’ as widespread protests spread through Russia.

There has been severe backlash to the Kremlin’s new plans for partial mobilisation.

Upwards of 300,000 people could be called up to fight as the invasion of Ukraine continues.

Desperation efforts to boost numbers even resulted in officers turning up at the door of a 40-year-old man – who it emerged had in fact died in 2020.

Activists fear mobilisation is being enforced in poor, ethnic minority regions to avoid triggering further anger in major cities.

Putin is now rumoured to have disappeared to a palace in the forest at Valdai, putting himself a safe distance away from the chaos triggered by his mobilisation announcement.

Journalist Farida Rustamova claims he has pre-recorded a number of videos to use over the coming days.

Sources say he is ‘resting’ at his Valdai home – rumoured to be surrounded by peaceful lakes and majestic forests.
Putin disappears to remote "holiday" destination in Russia


Drone footage showing main building in the land affiliated with??Yuri Kovalchuk

The mysterious palace lies around halfway between Moscow and St Petersburg (Picture: Navalny)

Russian President Vladimir Putin gives a speech during an event to mark the 1160th anniversary of Russia's statehood in Veliky Novgorod on September 21, 2022. (Photo by Ilya PITALEV / SPUTNIK / AFP) (Photo by ILYA PITALEV/SPUTNIK/AFP via Getty Images)'s statehood in Veliky Novgorod on September 21, 2022. (Photo by Ilya PITALEV / SPUTNIK / AFP) (Photo by ILYA PITALEV/SPUTNIK/AFP via Getty Images)

Rumours Putin has gone into hiding have raised further questions about his health (Picture: Getty)

His disappearance is likely to trigger more rumours about his health.

Ms Rustamova claims a trusted source said ‘that since last Wednesday evening, Putin has been resting “body and soul” in his residence in Valdai in the Novgorod region’.

The residence is said to boast a three-storey spa complex with a ‘personal beauty parlour’ nicknamed the ‘temple to his asceticism’.

Two floors are reportedly hidden underground area with a cryo chamber for extreme cold therapy.

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metro.co.uk

Putin 'vanishes to secret palace' as wave of protests spread through Russia

Rumours have spread that the Kremlin leader has gone into hiding.
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Frist Xi, now Putin disappears!
 
Zagdid

Zagdid

Veteran Member
vector7 said:
JUST IN - U.S. Congress reached a preliminary agreement to provide about $12 billion in new assistance to Ukraine.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1574442670860140547
View: https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1574442670860140547?t=Qco25I_r4arywAFWMt4-dA&s=19
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Here’s Where the NDAA and Budget Bills Stand as the Fiscal Year Wraps Up

Oct. 1 is fast approaching. Find out what’s next for these critical pieces of legislation.
www.moaa.org www.moaa.org

Here’s Where the NDAA and Budget Bills Stand as the Fiscal Year Wraps Up​

By: Brenden McMahon SEPTEMBER 21, 2022

The first day of October represents more than just the herald for the coming of autumn: It marks the start of the new fiscal year.

Why does that matter to the uniformed services and veteran communities? In other words, what is the significance of Oct. 1 to MOAA members?

Without the necessary authorizations and appropriations, federal agencies can’t operate properly. An authorization bill establishes new policies and programs for a federal agency and can reauthorize programs set to expire, while appropriations provide the funding for those authorizations.

Until Congress passes those bills, federal agencies overseeing the eight uniformed services lack the authorizations or funding needed for the annual military pay raise, quality health care coverage, and quality-of-life programs for servicemembers and their families, along with many other support programs and benefits necessary for an all-volunteer force.

Passing authorization and appropriations bills before the end of the fiscal year has been a recurring challenge. The last year Congress and the White House enacted the necessary legislation on time to fully fund the government for the upcoming fiscal year was for FY 1997.

With the start of FY 2023 upon us, followed by midterm elections, it’s very likely the government will again miss the mark with its budget process. There is a little more time for Congress to approve authorizations, up to the end of the calendar year.

Here’s where the process now stands:

FY 2023 Authorizations: For MOAA’s purposes, the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) is the most critical of these bills, as it affects DoD policies and programs. The House passed its version of the NDAA on July 14 by a vote of 329-101. The Senate has yet to pass its version.

FY 2023 Appropriations: Neither the House nor the Senate have passed all 12 of the appropriations bills that make up the federal budget. Of particular interest to MOAA are the defense appropriations bill, which has jurisdiction over the budget for DoD, and the Military Construction-Veterans Affairs (MilCon-VA) appropriations bill, which sets the funding for military construction and the VA.

Missing the Oct. 1 deadline for authorizations will have tangible consequences: delayed implementation of new programs, inability for DoD and other federal agencies to modify or discontinue existing programs, and agency leaders beginning FY 2023 with the challenge of funding newly legislated increases on the previous year’s budget.

What’s Next?​

If Congress and the White House do not enact all 12 appropriation bills by Oct. 1, it could result in a government shutdown. A more likely, and less stark, result would be the passage of a continuing resolution (CR), legislation to fund federal agencies so they can continue operating until the full appropriations process is finished.

A CR would provide funding to the federal government at last year’s spending levels, and could include add-ons such as support for the war in Ukraine or necessary funds for other programs throughout the government.

For a quarter of a century, Congress and the White House have failed to enact the necessary legislation to fully fund the federal government on time, and the ones who ultimately suffer the most are servicemembers, veterans, survivors, and their families.

MOAA will continue to engage with members of Congress to ensure the needs of the uniformed services and veteran communities are fulfilled now and into the following year.
 
von Koehler

von Koehler

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Zagdid said:

Here’s Where the NDAA and Budget Bills Stand as the Fiscal Year Wraps Up

Oct. 1 is fast approaching. Find out what’s next for these critical pieces of legislation.
www.moaa.org www.moaa.org

Here’s Where the NDAA and Budget Bills Stand as the Fiscal Year Wraps Up​

By: Brenden McMahon SEPTEMBER 21, 2022

The first day of October represents more than just the herald for the coming of autumn: It marks the start of the new fiscal year.

Why does that matter to the uniformed services and veteran communities? In other words, what is the significance of Oct. 1 to MOAA members?

Without the necessary authorizations and appropriations, federal agencies can’t operate properly. An authorization bill establishes new policies and programs for a federal agency and can reauthorize programs set to expire, while appropriations provide the funding for those authorizations.

Until Congress passes those bills, federal agencies overseeing the eight uniformed services lack the authorizations or funding needed for the annual military pay raise, quality health care coverage, and quality-of-life programs for servicemembers and their families, along with many other support programs and benefits necessary for an all-volunteer force.

Passing authorization and appropriations bills before the end of the fiscal year has been a recurring challenge. The last year Congress and the White House enacted the necessary legislation on time to fully fund the government for the upcoming fiscal year was for FY 1997.

With the start of FY 2023 upon us, followed by midterm elections, it’s very likely the government will again miss the mark with its budget process. There is a little more time for Congress to approve authorizations, up to the end of the calendar year.

Here’s where the process now stands:

FY 2023 Authorizations: For MOAA’s purposes, the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) is the most critical of these bills, as it affects DoD policies and programs. The House passed its version of the NDAA on July 14 by a vote of 329-101. The Senate has yet to pass its version.

FY 2023 Appropriations: Neither the House nor the Senate have passed all 12 of the appropriations bills that make up the federal budget. Of particular interest to MOAA are the defense appropriations bill, which has jurisdiction over the budget for DoD, and the Military Construction-Veterans Affairs (MilCon-VA) appropriations bill, which sets the funding for military construction and the VA.

Missing the Oct. 1 deadline for authorizations will have tangible consequences: delayed implementation of new programs, inability for DoD and other federal agencies to modify or discontinue existing programs, and agency leaders beginning FY 2023 with the challenge of funding newly legislated increases on the previous year’s budget.

What’s Next?​

If Congress and the White House do not enact all 12 appropriation bills by Oct. 1, it could result in a government shutdown. A more likely, and less stark, result would be the passage of a continuing resolution (CR), legislation to fund federal agencies so they can continue operating until the full appropriations process is finished.

A CR would provide funding to the federal government at last year’s spending levels, and could include add-ons such as support for the war in Ukraine or necessary funds for other programs throughout the government.

For a quarter of a century, Congress and the White House have failed to enact the necessary legislation to fully fund the federal government on time, and the ones who ultimately suffer the most are servicemembers, veterans, survivors, and their families.

MOAA will continue to engage with members of Congress to ensure the needs of the uniformed services and veteran communities are fulfilled now and into the following year.
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Zagdid said:

Here’s Where the NDAA and Budget Bills Stand as the Fiscal Year Wraps Up

Oct. 1 is fast approaching. Find out what’s next for these critical pieces of legislation.
www.moaa.org www.moaa.org

Here’s Where the NDAA and Budget Bills Stand as the Fiscal Year Wraps Up​

By: Brenden McMahon SEPTEMBER 21, 2022

The first day of October represents more than just the herald for the coming of autumn: It marks the start of the new fiscal year.

Why does that matter to the uniformed services and veteran communities? In other words, what is the significance of Oct. 1 to MOAA members?

Without the necessary authorizations and appropriations, federal agencies can’t operate properly. An authorization bill establishes new policies and programs for a federal agency and can reauthorize programs set to expire, while appropriations provide the funding for those authorizations.

Until Congress passes those bills, federal agencies overseeing the eight uniformed services lack the authorizations or funding needed for the annual military pay raise, quality health care coverage, and quality-of-life programs for servicemembers and their families, along with many other support programs and benefits necessary for an all-volunteer force.

Passing authorization and appropriations bills before the end of the fiscal year has been a recurring challenge. The last year Congress and the White House enacted the necessary legislation on time to fully fund the government for the upcoming fiscal year was for FY 1997.

With the start of FY 2023 upon us, followed by midterm elections, it’s very likely the government will again miss the mark with its budget process. There is a little more time for Congress to approve authorizations, up to the end of the calendar year.

Here’s where the process now stands:

FY 2023 Authorizations: For MOAA’s purposes, the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) is the most critical of these bills, as it affects DoD policies and programs. The House passed its version of the NDAA on July 14 by a vote of 329-101. The Senate has yet to pass its version.

FY 2023 Appropriations: Neither the House nor the Senate have passed all 12 of the appropriations bills that make up the federal budget. Of particular interest to MOAA are the defense appropriations bill, which has jurisdiction over the budget for DoD, and the Military Construction-Veterans Affairs (MilCon-VA) appropriations bill, which sets the funding for military construction and the VA.

Missing the Oct. 1 deadline for authorizations will have tangible consequences: delayed implementation of new programs, inability for DoD and other federal agencies to modify or discontinue existing programs, and agency leaders beginning FY 2023 with the challenge of funding newly legislated increases on the previous year’s budget.

What’s Next?​

If Congress and the White House do not enact all 12 appropriation bills by Oct. 1, it could result in a government shutdown. A more likely, and less stark, result would be the passage of a continuing resolution (CR), legislation to fund federal agencies so they can continue operating until the full appropriations process is finished.

A CR would provide funding to the federal government at last year’s spending levels, and could include add-ons such as support for the war in Ukraine or necessary funds for other programs throughout the government.

For a quarter of a century, Congress and the White House have failed to enact the necessary legislation to fully fund the federal government on time, and the ones who ultimately suffer the most are servicemembers, veterans, survivors, and their families.

MOAA will continue to engage with members of Congress to ensure the needs of the uniformed services and veteran communities are fulfilled now and into the following year.
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von Koehler

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I realize a lot of money (which America really can't afford) is being spent on Ukraine but it's cheap in comparison to the total sums we spent against the Soviet Union.
 
jward

jward

passin' thru
jward said:
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@disclosetv
U.S. Congress negotiators agree $12 billion of new aid for Ukraine.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1574449454115086340
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Just how much $$$ does that make now? Some said it's now north of 60 billion dollars, and more than RU annual military spending :: thud :: I dunno, we've posted RU budget, and the info in dribs and drabs, but at those #s, maff is too hard for me to even wrap my brain around. :strs:
 
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