ALERT RUSSIA INVADES UKRAINE - Consolidated Thread

mzkitty

I give up.
After the hopelessly disastrous performance of Russian troops since the beginning of the Ukraine invasion, I have less and less doubt that the Russian army is far worse than anyone could have imagined.

I've been reading really evil things about them......

Plus are they all tin soldiers? Or Beasts?

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Red Baron

Paleo-Conservative
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1:09:22

Captured Russian Equipment in Ukraine - (Featuring the @The Chieftain )

View: https://youtu.be/sNLTE75B0Os


Timestamps:
00:00:00 — Opening Words
00:02:51 — What We're Covering
00:04:08 — Sponsor: GROUND NEWS
00:05:42 — Kyiv Thrust
00:06:59 — Abandoned On Withdrawal
00:08:30 — Kharkiv Reprise
00:10:06 — Putting It In Numbers
00:11:08 — Understanding "Captures", & Challenges With Sources
00:14:54 — Categorisation
00:17:01 — BDAR With An Expert
00:19:00 — BDAR With An Expert: Self Recovery
00:20:57 — BDAR With An Expert: Like-Vehicle Recovery
00:24:06 — BDAR With An Expert: Dedicated Recovery
00:30:42 — BDAR With An Expert: How Russia Categorises Its Repairs
00:34:16 — BDAR With An Expert: Replacement Components
00:38:54 — Like-vehicle Recovery & Self Recovery
00:40:13 — Tractor Brigade
00:42:43 — Specialised Recovery Assets
00:44:18 — Informal Procedures
00:46:52 — Frontline & Informal Repair
00:48:02 — Rear Area Capital Repair - A Significant Challenge
00:49:50 — Primary Contributors
00:50:44 — Calling Out Bulgaria
00:53:10 — Quantities & Significance
00:55:06 — Captured, Abandoned, & Foreign Supplied Equipment (ORYX)
00:56:32 — Evidence Of Deployment
00:59:04 — Ammunition & Smaller Items
01:00:40 — Let's Talk AA
01:02:26 — The Sensitive & Secret
01:04:40 — You All Wanted To Hear About It
01:06:40 — Conclusions
01:08:08 — Channel Update
 

JeanCat

Veteran Member
Russia has been fighting a war with one hand tied behind its back, like the US in Nam. Example Russia not attacking US satellites, recon planes, droves. When the kid gloves come off expect these things to be destroyed.
OMG! lol, talk about propaganda. I've seen satellite pictures of the thousands of tanks Russia has in storage from the Soviet era that can be refurbished for combat use. My point is, they are bound to have millions of small arms in storage from the Soviet era that are in usable condition. The US has such inventories. It's only common sense.

Now let's assume the conscripts were actually given such weapons, certainly the rust would be oiled and the weapons would be made at least somewhat functional.

I'm going to risk being banned from this thread or kicked off of TB2K, but for crying out loud, I'd be ashamed to even post propaganda this absurd!!!! It's OK to be anti Russian, but really?
This is Biden’s fault. Did he not cut off all guns and ammo coming from Russia. Americans would have bought all the old guns and ammo; then Putin could not outfit these conscripts.
 

Red Baron

Paleo-Conservative
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I'm going to risk being banned from this thread or kicked off of TB2K, but for crying out loud, I'd be ashamed to even post propaganda this absurd!!!! It's OK to be anti Russian, but really?

Firstly, I am not anti-Russian. I am anti-Putin, who is a former Communist and was the leader of the secret police. Now he is the dictatorial despot directly responsible for turning a potentially great nation into second world status.

Under normal circumstances I would have considered that rusty rifle video a bit circumspect.

However we have seen inexplicable lapses by the Russian military since the illegal and immoral invasion of February 24th. Those lapses have now made me believe almost any dysfunction is possible in the Russian military and the Moscow leadership.

- Day Two of the war and Russian army forces were turning up out of fuel and hopelessly lost. Rumors that the Russians sell their fuel in order to obtain vodka. That would explain a lot.

- Many Russian troops didn't even know they were actually invading Ukraine or that they actually were in Ukraine.

- Complete inability of the Russian Air Force to achieve air superiority over Ukraine. The war would have been over in week otherwise.

- Ineptitude in targeting precision long range missiles against Ukraine military targets. Apartment buildings, schools, etc. were struck instead in many cases. The war would have been over in a week otherwise.

- Airborne operations around Kiev were totally ineffective and uncoordinated. The war could have been over in a week otherwise.

- Elite paratrooper rifles were equipped without optical or thermal sighting devices. No visible or thermal illumination devices either. Rumors of this kind of gear being stolen and available on internet "grey market" websites.

- No evidence that the Russian air force is capable of mounting any operation requiring the use of more 2 or 4 jet aircraft at the same time.

- The 2nd Guards Tank Army is a fabled unit dating back to the gates of Berlin in WWII. A "Guards" unit is considered an elite unit. 2nd Guards is now essentially combat ineffective and has lost literally a couple of hundred vehicles. Many of those vehicles are undamaged and were simply abandoned or again ran out of fuel.

There are more examples of gross ineptitude but I think we get the idea that pretty much anything is possible.
 

colonel holman

Veteran Member
Firstly, I am not anti-Russian. I am anti-Putin, who is a former Communist and was the leader of the secret police. Now he is the dictatorial despot directly responsible for turning a potentially great nation into second world status.

Under normal circumstances I would have considered that rusty rifle video a bit circumspect.

However we have seen inexplicable lapses by the Russian military since the illegal and immoral invasion of February 24th. Those lapses have now made me believe almost any dysfunction is possible in the Russian military and the Moscow leadership.

- Day Two of the war and Russian army forces were turning up out of fuel and hopelessly lost. Rumors that the Russians sell their fuel in order to obtain vodka. That would explain a lot.

- Many Russian troops didn't even know they were actually invading Ukraine or that they actually were in Ukraine.

- Complete inability of the Russian Air Force to achieve air superiority over Ukraine. The war would have been over in week otherwise.

- Ineptitude in targeting precision long range missiles against Ukraine military targets. Apartment buildings, schools, etc. were struck instead in many cases. The war would have been over in a week otherwise.

- Airborne operations around Kiev were totally ineffective and uncoordinated. The war could have been over in a week otherwise.

- Elite paratrooper rifles were equipped without optical or thermal sighting devices. No visible or thermal illumination devices either. Rumors of this kind of gear being stolen and available on internet "grey market" websites.

- No evidence that the Russian air force is capable of mounting any operation requiring the use of more 2 or 4 jet aircraft at the same time.

- The 2nd Guards Tank Army is a fabled unit dating back to the gates of Berlin in WWII. A "Guards" unit is considered an elite unit. 2nd Guards is now essentially combat ineffective and has lost literally a couple of hundred vehicles. Many of those vehicles are undamaged and were simply abandoned or again ran out of fuel.

There are more examples of gross ineptitude but I think we get the idea that pretty much anything is possible.
Putin has to have full realization of all that, or at least suspect so, if advisors haven’t dared tell him. If he does realize all that, he must feel utterly embarassed, humiliated, and severely pissed that so many in the entire chain of command and corporate charts simply stole so much of Russia’s defense spending leaving their military gutted. What kind of response will that bring??
 
Firstly, I am not anti-Russian. I am anti-Putin, who is a former Communist and was the leader of the secret police. Now he is the dictatorial despot directly responsible for turning a potentially great nation into second world status.

Under normal circumstances I would have considered that rusty rifle video a bit circumspect.

However we have seen inexplicable lapses by the Russian military since the illegal and immoral invasion of February 24th. Those lapses have now made me believe almost any dysfunction is possible in the Russian military and the Moscow leadership.

- Day Two of the war and Russian army forces were turning up out of fuel and hopelessly lost. Rumors that the Russians sell their fuel in order to obtain vodka. That would explain a lot.

- Many Russian troops didn't even know they were actually invading Ukraine or that they actually were in Ukraine.

- Complete inability of the Russian Air Force to achieve air superiority over Ukraine. The war would have been over in week otherwise.

- Ineptitude in targeting precision long range missiles against Ukraine military targets. Apartment buildings, schools, etc. were struck instead in many cases. The war would have been over in a week otherwise.

- Airborne operations around Kiev were totally ineffective and uncoordinated. The war could have been over in a week otherwise.

- Elite paratrooper rifles were equipped without optical or thermal sighting devices. No visible or thermal illumination devices either. Rumors of this kind of gear being stolen and available on internet "grey market" websites.

- No evidence that the Russian air force is capable of mounting any operation requiring the use of more 2 or 4 jet aircraft at the same time.

- The 2nd Guards Tank Army is a fabled unit dating back to the gates of Berlin in WWII. A "Guards" unit is considered an elite unit. 2nd Guards is now essentially combat ineffective and has lost literally a couple of hundred vehicles. Many of those vehicles are undamaged and were simply abandoned or again ran out of fuel.

There are more examples of gross ineptitude but I think we get the idea that pretty much anything is possible.
And, we CANNOT cite wholly illegal communist atrocities occurring on the "NATO" side of this Ukrainian affair?

One does not have to be a Putin-apologist, nor a NATO/Ukraine/deep state/communist apologist, to fairly note the sometimes hidden driving forces that are putting the Ukrainian/Russian military/citizens through a well-designed and effective meat grinder (rah-rah, GO team, GO!)?

The CORRECT question - who runs the meat grinder?


intothegoodnight
 

Calfisher

Veteran Member
Russian forces utterly destroyed by shelling the cities and population that were supposedly ethic Russian.
One of the BIG lies. The Ukies have been terrorizing those same areas since before 2014. Know the history!

These kingdoms have been fighting over this land since time began. Both are in the wrong.


Slavs, Rus, Euro, Zionists, Orthodox are all mixed together to form a continuing boiling pot of hatred towards each other.

Picking sides is not wise, They all lie.
 

naegling62

Veteran Member
Holy middle ages batman! I don't have a link but on Disclose TV's telegram channel Patriarch Kirill says:



- Patriarch Kirill, the head of the Russian Orthodox Church, proclaimed in his sermon today that soldiers dying in Ukraine would have all their sins washed away.
 

JeanCat

Veteran Member
Putin has to have full realization of all that, or at least suspect so, if advisors haven’t dared tell him. If he does realize all that, he must feel utterly embarassed, humiliated, and severely pissed that so many in the entire chain of command and corporate charts simply stole so much of Russia’s defense spending leaving their military gutted. What kind of response will that bring??
I was under the impression that Putin was one of the richest men in the world; if not the richest. I am sure he was getting his share.
 

naegling62

Veteran Member
Holy middle ages batman! I don't have a link but on Disclose TV's telegram channel Patriarch Kirill says:



- Patriarch Kirill, the head of the Russian Orthodox Church, proclaimed in his sermon today that soldiers dying in Ukraine would have all their sins washed away.
He is getting roasted on multiple platforms.
 

Red Baron

Paleo-Conservative
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Fair Use Cited
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Missile strikes on Ukrainian cities as call-up causes chaos in Russia

Fresh wave of protests across Russia on Saturday after Putin’s ‘partial mobilisation’ of civilian men

Shaun Walker in Kyiv and Pjotr Sauer
Sat 24 Sep 2022 11.53 EDT

Russia launched renewed strikes on Ukrainian cities on Saturday, as Moscow’s mobilisation drive to refresh its struggling war effort continued to provide scenes of chaos across Russia.

Ukrainian officials said a Russian missile hit an apartment building in the city of Zaporizhzhia, killing one person and injuring seven others, and said a total of three people were killed and 19 injured in strikes across the south and east of the country.

In Russia, even Kremlin cheerleaders expressed unease at the progress of the mobilisation drive, announced by the president, Vladimir Putin, on Wednesday. Viral videos have shown mobilised men who appear variously to be confused, drunk or angry at receiving the call-up.

There are many reports of local authorities rounding up people who have not served before, have illnesses or are over 50, contradicting Putin’s announcement of a “partial mobilisation” that would only involve those with military experience. There are reports of men and women with young children being mobilised, and many videos of emotional family farewells.

Margarita Simonyan, the hawkish head of propaganda outlet RT, complained that military offices across the country were rounding up those who were not supposed to be called up. “It’s as if they were tasked by Kyiv to do that,” she said, in a rare criticism of authorities.

The mobilisation drive is a huge gamble by Putin after months in which the war in Ukraine has been portrayed as a “special operation” that would be completed without bloodshed. Now, the call-up brings the war closer to home for hundreds of thousands of families, and has prompted a race for the borders for many Russian men eager to avoid the draft.

There was a fresh wave of anti-war and anti-mobilisation protests in cities across Russia on Saturday, although the numbers were small as police have cracked down harshly on previous protests.

In the far-eastern city of Khabarovsk, one man was detained for a sign that read: “Mobilise yourself, you lice-infested rat.” Protests were expected in Moscow and St Petersburg late in the afternoon.

A further sign of problems in Moscow came as the defence ministry sacked Gen Dmitry Bulgakov, the deputy minister in charge of logistics. The ministry gave no reason for firing Bulgakov, who had worked in the role for many years.

“The top appears to be looking for people to blame at the moment. Someone had to be punished, and [minister of defence Sergei] Shoigu doesn’t want to put the blame on the generals, on the military,” said a former defence ministry official who has worked with Bulgakov.

“The mantra is: ‘We are fighting well but not just getting the logistics we need, we aren’t getting our breakfast on time,’ so to speak. It is not the fault of the guys fighting.”

The New York Times reported on Saturday that Putin has taken personal control of the war effort, citing US officials briefed on classified intelligence who suggest the Russian president has overruled military commanders, insisting, for example, that the Russian army should not prepare a retreat from the city of Kherson.

The mobilisation drive comes as Russia is holding “referendums” in areas of Ukraine it controls, in which the remaining residents are asked whether they favour their regions becoming independent states and then joining Russia.

The votes, which have been widely dismissed as illegitimate in Kyiv and the west, are a pretext for Russia to annex Ukrainian territory. Putin promised on Wednesday that Moscow would defend its new territories with all available means, including nuclear weapons.

The voting began on Friday and is due to continue until Tuesday in the Russia-controlled parts of Kherson, Zaporizhzhia, Donetsk and Luhansk regions. In some places, election officials set up mobile polling stations in courtyards, citing security concerns, and there were numerous videos showing people filling in ballots under the watchful eye of police.

There is little doubt that the Kremlin will announce an overwhelming decision to join Russia, but Ukrainian officials have said Russia declaring an annexation will not stop Kyiv’s attempts to win back the territories.

“Half of the population fled the Donetsk region because of Russian terror and constant shelling, voting against Russia with their feet, and the second half has been cheated and scared,” said the governor of Donetsk region, Pavlo Kyrylenko.

 

jward

passin' thru
Our attention is better spent on local affairs honestly, whatever happens in Ukraine, will happen. We here have no control of that.
I too avoid getting lost in the weeds with the small details and repetitions of minutia that are impossible to verify anyway.

Still, as I've said since way back when, we watch, not because we expect to learn "the truth" about anything, but because with a lil discernment we can read the blues clues, and be alerted to the shifting gears of engagement, perhaps in time for it to actually do us some good. Such as when we were pre-alerted to the RU actually, finally entering UK. We may find repeated success with our system, and get a wee bit of heads up about the when and where (dare I add or hope "IF"?) the nukes will go. . . so guess I'm saying, less fluffy repeats of non knowables, but lets keep some info coming in- if nothing else it might help people learn how to approach and deconstruct "the party line" and read it for what it really means. . .
but yeah, get yer house in order, and yerself lean mean and in fighting form first, that's the primary order of business.
 

jward

passin' thru





Samuel Ramani
@SamRamani2
21m

Russian MP Andrei Gurulyev proposes striking NATO forces in Poland with nuclear weapons

Gurulyev's threat applies if NATO forces in Poland move towards the Ukraine border Gurulyev rules out striking Ukraine because many of "our people" live there and a strategic operation to target critically important objects by non-nuclear means will work
View: https://twitter.com/SamRamani2/status/1574145036568170497?s=20&t=rcI_lkcrVR5Kz90WZFRk_Q
 

jward

passin' thru
still floatin the idea of the sinking the fleet as an option-

Faytuks News Δ
@Faytuks


Breaking: A russian nuclear strike against Ukraine would be unlikely to spark a retaliation in kind but would instead trigger "conventional military" responses from western states, two western officials tell Financial times


11:19 AM · Sep 25, 2022·Twitter Web App

Replying to
@Faytuks

Ben Hoges says a possible response would be sinking the Black sea fleet or attacking Russian bases in Crimea.
View: https://twitter.com/tim_wdev/status/1574084411481473024?s=20&t=rcI_lkcrVR5Kz90WZFRk_Q
 

jward

passin' thru




EndGameWW3
@EndGameWW3

Update: Financial Times: US officials: We discussed with our Ukrainian allies the possibility of Russia's use of nuclear weapons.

Financial Times: Western officials: Ukraine's allies are raising the level of vigilance and nuclear deterrence.

Financial Times: Western officials: Western capitals draw up contingency plans in case Putin goes ahead with his nuclear threats.

Financial Times: Western capitals have directly warned the Kremlin against any nuclear use.

1:49 PM · Sep 25, 2022·Twitter Web App
 

raven

TB Fanatic

EndGameWW3
@EndGameWW3

Update: Financial Times: US officials: We discussed with our Ukrainian allies the possibility of Russia's use of nuclear weapons.

Financial Times: Western officials: Ukraine's allies are raising the level of vigilance and nuclear deterrence.

Financial Times: Western officials: Western capitals draw up contingency plans in case Putin goes ahead with his nuclear threats.

Financial Times: Western capitals have directly warned the Kremlin against any nuclear use.

1:49 PM · Sep 25, 2022·Twitter Web App
Russia isn't going to nuke Ukraine - someone is confused
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
Fair Use Cited
----------------
Missile strikes on Ukrainian cities as call-up causes chaos in Russia

Fresh wave of protests across Russia on Saturday after Putin’s ‘partial mobilisation’ of civilian men

Shaun Walker in Kyiv and Pjotr Sauer
Sat 24 Sep 2022 11.53 EDT

Russia launched renewed strikes on Ukrainian cities on Saturday, as Moscow’s mobilisation drive to refresh its struggling war effort continued to provide scenes of chaos across Russia.

Ukrainian officials said a Russian missile hit an apartment building in the city of Zaporizhzhia, killing one person and injuring seven others, and said a total of three people were killed and 19 injured in strikes across the south and east of the country.

In Russia, even Kremlin cheerleaders expressed unease at the progress of the mobilisation drive, announced by the president, Vladimir Putin, on Wednesday. Viral videos have shown mobilised men who appear variously to be confused, drunk or angry at receiving the call-up.

There are many reports of local authorities rounding up people who have not served before, have illnesses or are over 50, contradicting Putin’s announcement of a “partial mobilisation” that would only involve those with military experience. There are reports of men and women with young children being mobilised, and many videos of emotional family farewells.

Margarita Simonyan, the hawkish head of propaganda outlet RT, complained that military offices across the country were rounding up those who were not supposed to be called up. “It’s as if they were tasked by Kyiv to do that,” she said, in a rare criticism of authorities.

The mobilisation drive is a huge gamble by Putin after months in which the war in Ukraine has been portrayed as a “special operation” that would be completed without bloodshed. Now, the call-up brings the war closer to home for hundreds of thousands of families, and has prompted a race for the borders for many Russian men eager to avoid the draft.

There was a fresh wave of anti-war and anti-mobilisation protests in cities across Russia on Saturday, although the numbers were small as police have cracked down harshly on previous protests.

In the far-eastern city of Khabarovsk, one man was detained for a sign that read: “Mobilise yourself, you lice-infested rat.” Protests were expected in Moscow and St Petersburg late in the afternoon.

A further sign of problems in Moscow came as the defence ministry sacked Gen Dmitry Bulgakov, the deputy minister in charge of logistics. The ministry gave no reason for firing Bulgakov, who had worked in the role for many years.

“The top appears to be looking for people to blame at the moment. Someone had to be punished, and [minister of defence Sergei] Shoigu doesn’t want to put the blame on the generals, on the military,” said a former defence ministry official who has worked with Bulgakov.

“The mantra is: ‘We are fighting well but not just getting the logistics we need, we aren’t getting our breakfast on time,’ so to speak. It is not the fault of the guys fighting.”

The New York Times reported on Saturday that Putin has taken personal control of the war effort, citing US officials briefed on classified intelligence who suggest the Russian president has overruled military commanders, insisting, for example, that the Russian army should not prepare a retreat from the city of Kherson.

The mobilisation drive comes as Russia is holding “referendums” in areas of Ukraine it controls, in which the remaining residents are asked whether they favour their regions becoming independent states and then joining Russia.

The votes, which have been widely dismissed as illegitimate in Kyiv and the west, are a pretext for Russia to annex Ukrainian territory. Putin promised on Wednesday that Moscow would defend its new territories with all available means, including nuclear weapons.

The voting began on Friday and is due to continue until Tuesday in the Russia-controlled parts of Kherson, Zaporizhzhia, Donetsk and Luhansk regions. In some places, election officials set up mobile polling stations in courtyards, citing security concerns, and there were numerous videos showing people filling in ballots under the watchful eye of police.

There is little doubt that the Kremlin will announce an overwhelming decision to join Russia, but Ukrainian officials have said Russia declaring an annexation will not stop Kyiv’s attempts to win back the territories.

“Half of the population fled the Donetsk region because of Russian terror and constant shelling, voting against Russia with their feet, and the second half has been cheated and scared,” said the governor of Donetsk region, Pavlo Kyrylenko.

"The New York Times reported on Saturday that Putin has taken personal control of the war effort, citing US officials briefed on classified intelligence who suggest the Russian president has overruled military commanders..."

Now this sheds a whole new light on this thing....
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
I too avoid getting lost in the weeds with the small details and repetitions of minutia that are impossible to verify anyway.

Still, as I've said since way back when, we watch, not because we expect to learn "the truth" about anything, but because with a lil discernment we can read the blues clues, and be alerted to the shifting gears of engagement, perhaps in time for it to actually do us some good. Such as when we were pre-alerted to the RU actually, finally entering UK. We may find repeated success with our system, and get a wee bit of heads up about the when and where (dare I add or hope "IF"?) the nukes will go. . . so guess I'm saying, less fluffy repeats of non knowables, but lets keep some info coming in- if nothing else it might help people learn how to approach and deconstruct "the party line" and read it for what it really means. . .
but yeah, get yer house in order, and yerself lean mean and in fighting form first, that's the primary order of business.
+ 10,000!

The folks here at Timebomb have good brains and can discern for themselves; we don't need someone to 'spoon-feed' us lest we (gasp!) read something that's (gasp!) thought by somebody to be "woo".

There's so much confusion now that--as you say jward--it's hard to tell the "woo" from the "stew" anyway.

Let the info fly--we can sort it out in our own minds (even if it is bewildering).
 

raven

TB Fanatic
still floatin the idea of the sinking the fleet as an option-
Faytuks News Δ
@Faytuks


Breaking: A russian nuclear strike against Ukraine would be unlikely to spark a retaliation in kind but would instead trigger "conventional military" responses from western states, two western officials tell Financial times


11:19 AM · Sep 25, 2022·Twitter Web App

Replying to
@Faytuks

Ben Hoges says a possible response would be sinking the Black sea fleet or attacking Russian bases in Crimea.
View: https://twitter.com/tim_wdev/status/1574084411481473024?s=20&t=rcI_lkcrVR5Kz90WZFRk_Q
and Russia would sink 40 and 41
 

Mtsilverback

Veteran Member
Of course they assume that they themselves won't be on that list of casualties.....

They never do think that. They believe them selves as "untouchable". They have the financial resources to buy the best in the world personal protection personnel, yet, even a world leader can be taken, if someone deems it worth while.
 

JeanCat

Veteran Member
Putin has to have full realization of all that, or at least suspect so, if advisors haven’t dared tell him. If he does realize all that, he must feel utterly embarassed, humiliated, and severely pissed that so many in the entire chain of command and corporate charts simply stole so much of Russia’s defense spending leaving their military gutted. What kind of response will that bring??
I have been thinking about this thread and it occurred to me that I vaguely remember that Putin asked the oligarchs in Russia to pony up money to outfit the troops. I don’t know if they did; but I think it would be a good question to ask him. How much of your personal money have you ponied up to outfit the troops. Remember, he may be the richest man in the world. I bet he has personally ponied up exactly zero.
 

jward

passin' thru
EndGameWW3
@EndGameWW3

Update: CBS: U.S. Secretary of State Blinken: We've been very clear with the Russians, both in private and in public, and we've asked them to stop talking about nuclear weapons.

Blinken: Vladimir Putin has a clear way out of this war and that is to stop the fighting.

Blinken: We are determined to support Ukraine and also insist that this war does not expand.


7:19 PM · Sep 25, 2022·Twitter Web App
 

raven

TB Fanatic
EndGameWW3
@EndGameWW3

Update: CBS: U.S. Secretary of State Blinken: We've been very clear with the Russians, both in private and in public, and we've asked them to stop talking about nuclear weapons.

Blinken: Vladimir Putin has a clear way out of this war and that is to stop the fighting.

Blinken: We are determined to support Ukraine and also insist that this war does not expand.


7:19 PM · Sep 25, 2022·Twitter Web App
why does "Your not my mother" come to mind?
 

FreedomoftheHills

Contributing Member
EndGameWW3
@EndGameWW3

Update: CBS: U.S. Secretary of State Blinken: We've been very clear with the Russians, both in private and in public, and we've asked them to stop talking about nuclear weapons.

Blinken: Vladimir Putin has a clear way out of this war and that is to stop the fighting.

Blinken: We are determined to support Ukraine and also insist that this war does not expand.


7:19 PM · Sep 25, 2022·Twitter Web App
Pretty ironic, Blinken...

Seems to me it is the US State Department (along with certain elements within NATO) that has spent the entire week pushing the ridiculous "Putin is going to nuke Ukraine" line. And now he has the nerve to demand that Russia stop talking about nuclear weapons?

How very typical.
 
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