ALERT RUSSIA INVADES UKRAINE - Consolidated Thread

AlfaMan

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Just saw a posting at Free Republic where long lines of people are forming in Russia at their ATM's. Heard someone say it will be a hell of a day in Russia on Monday at their banks as people take out their money have heard.

Russians have hit their ATM's to the tune of 1.3 billion dollars in the past 3 days. So between that and sanctioning the Russians from the SWIFT financial system; Putin had best win Ukraine and win it in a hurry. Otherwise Russia's economy grinds to a halt.

Also-MSM many outlets are reporting that Putin has upped the alert status of Russia's strategic nuclear forces. Upping the alert status because of Ukraine is odd.
 

von Koehler

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Putin knows damn well if nukes the West Russia will become a green glass parking lot.

Useful to bluff with but suicidal to use
 

TheSearcher

Are you sure about that?
Guy1: I see, Russian crew. Guys, we refuse to fuel your ship
Russian ship: Who am I speaking to?
Guy1: You are speaking to Georgian chief mate. We will not fuel your steamer. Russian ship, go **** yourself
Guy2: ****ing occupiers
Russian ship: Guys, no politics please, we're running out of fuel
Guy1: Well if you're running out of fuel you can use...
Guy2: Paddles!
Guy1: ...paddles. Go **** yourselves. Glory to the heroes, glory to Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!
Is that your estimation, or an actual transcript?
 

Housecarl

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von Koehler

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Russians have hit their ATM's to the tune of 1.3 billion dollars in the past 3 days. So between that and sanctioning the Russians from the SWIFT financial system; Putin had best win Ukraine and win it in a hurry. Otherwise Russia's economy grinds to a halt.

Also-MSM many outlets are reporting that Putin has upped the alert status of Russia's strategic nuclear forces. Upping the alert status because of Ukraine is odd.

When the old U.S.S.R. collapsed there was hyperinflation. People remember and act accordingly. Cash withdrawal makes sense,
 

KFhunter

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EU Sanctions On Russia Equal "Suicide By Cop"

Authored by Tom Luongo via Gold, Goats, 'n Guns blog,

The EU has unveiled its first tranche of economic sanctions on Russia for its invasion of Ukraine. EU leadership looks even more angry about this outcome than US leadership does. Here’s the article covering this tangled mess by Sputnik News.

We know that the EU is very dependent on Russian energy and the existing sanctions have hampered EU-Russian trade for years now. Europe is incredibly vulnerable here to any form of supply/demand shocks as their financial system teeters on the edge of the abyss.

There is no solidarity between the US and the EU on these matters, as I’ve pointed out in post after post here. So, the question now is, if Europe is targeting Russian energy exports and the ability of EU banks to do business to buy Russian gas and other export commodities why would they pick this fight?

The answer must be that this is exactly what they wanted in the first place.

In the US we call this ‘suicide by cop,’ which is exactly how I framed it when asked by Sputnik for my thoughts on the subject this morning. I was asked on Monday before Putin’s intervention in Ukraine, to answer the following questions. Events moved beyond them, obviously, but I publish them here anyway because they are still of some value. {current editorial comments in brackets}

According to recent research, US liquefied natural gas export capacity will be the world’s largest by the end of 2022. Could it be that part of the whole game around Ukraine was about the US petroleum sector benefitting from the current standoff in Ukraine?



Is the current political battle over Ukraine just a pretext for the US to earn money via the energy sector, increasing supplies?



How likely is it that the US might now try to establish control over transit routes going through Ukraine? Will the “Russian invasion” narrative be used as a pretext for doing so?


To what extent can the US indeed provide energy security for Europe by supplying resources?


Can Europe survive without Russian energy supplies, if they were to be disrupted now due to the standoff and sanctions?


Is the fate of Nord Stream 2 at risk yet again amid recent developments?


Is LNG a viable alternative to less expensive Russian gas speeding over to European countries?




[Sputnik asks about Europe’s energy security]







They want the rank and file peasants of Europe to blame Russia for the pain this great reset will cause them.
 

Hi-D

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China is saying it's time for Taiwan to come home. Don't think China and Russia planned all of this? China has told us Taiwan was a distraction...the US is their real target. Russia can blame the West for destroying their economy now so that's an act of war...even though war with US was the plan....

Imo, Russia could have taken all of Ukraine by now..if that was their real target...but it's not. The attack on Ukraine was a ruse.

The US is the real target.

The tactical nukes are for us. From both countries. Question is...what's the chosen attack date?

That would be my guess. Time for the wings of the eagle to get plucked off the lion.
 

Sid Vicious

Veteran Member
Old news from four days ago:


Russian forces have prepared a mobile crematorium for use in any future conflict with Ukraine in what Britain’s Defence Secretary has described as “chilling”.
The MoD released footage of a vehicle-mounted crematorium with room to “evaporate” one human body at a time, which has been seen trailing Russian forces and is expected to follow any troops into Ukraine.
Ben Wallace, the Defence Secretary, suggested the use of such a system may be a way for the Kremlin to cover up any future combat losses, fearing a repeat of the criticism at home when Russia first invaded Ukraine in 2014.

Debunked years ago. Its for garbage.


She's holding an airsoft rifle.
 

wait-n-see

Veteran Member

Dang, you mean all these years of training that have been given to soldiers through out history until now was not needed? Just give an weapon to anyone and you got a mean green fighting machine who will go balls deep in battle with those trained to actually fight? I guess like the matrix, holding the weapon zaps the know-how right to their gray matter?

The propaganda war is so thick on this one, that farmers should not need fertilizer for years to come.
 

BV141

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Why does a Ukranian have an AR-15 rifle in 5.56 NATO? Look at the magazine curvature.

Ukraine still uses Soviet-era 7.62x39mm cartridge.

The Ukrainian military has received the first of its new US-made WAC-47 rifles, a derivative of the American-designed M16 rifle that chambers the Soviet-era 7.62x39mm cartridge.


Look at the magazine curvature on Miss Ukraine's rifle vs. below video.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ua_nrWy0a8&t=6s
 

db cooper

Resident Secret Squirrel
At this point in time, the wrong move might turn many countries against them...in an active fashion.
Interesting perspective. So let me take it a little farther. Yes, the ChiComs are waiting this out to see what all happens. They are looking for an opportunity to do something, and they really do not want world opinion against them. Where I'm going with this, is if Russia is proven to have a very weak, ill trained, ill supplied military, then the ChiComs might put Russia on their target list. Right now Russia is the bad guy, so China would not lose as much favorable opinion by taking some of their territory as opposed to Taiwan.

Taking on Russia would give their armed forces experience and let them battle field test their equipment for the big show later, which would be Taiwan after Russia. The whole problem with any scenario involving major nuclear powers is that such weapons will be used.
 

Housecarl

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A NATO 'No Fly Zone' over Ukraine territory is highly unlikely.

The European part of NATO can't support logistically, a major flaw would be exposed.
Germany won't support.
Europe will be cut off from Russian oil and natural gas in winter.
Both Ukraine and Russia air defenses would be shooting at NATO aircraft.
This would allow China to bring up it's military to back Russia (and pivot to Taiwan after Russia has absorbed Ukraine.)

Supplying MANPADS by the truck load goes a long way to effectively, though not completely, the same thing.
 

somewherepress

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View: https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1497923042101575685

Video 47 sev

Putin: "Western countries aren't only taking unfriendly economic actions against our country, but leaders of major Nato countries are making aggressive statements about our country. So I order to move Russia's deterrence forces to a special regime of duty."


Embedded video

*PUTIN NUCLAER POSTURE CHANGE `ESCALATORY' STEP: PENTAGON

View: https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/1497953728451817483
 

Ira

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I kind of freaked myself out as I broke it down. That is the danger of having a nearly photographic memory and being an information sponge. You start connecting things and realizing some disturbing parts of reality.
I was thinking more in terms of ww2, with clear lines (ish) but yea dude, your breakdown definitely fits
 

Hi-D

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Dang, you mean all these years of training that have been given to soldiers through out history until now was not needed? Just give an weapon to anyone and you got a mean green fighting machine who will go balls deep in battle with those trained to actually fight? I guess like the matrix, holding the weapon zaps the know-how right to their gray matter?

The propaganda war is so thick on this one, that farmers should not need fertilizer for years to come.

All it would give me is flocks of ducks. I am with Doc on this. But it is what happens when a comedian/actor is led around by a senile old man and crew.
 

somewherepress

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"I'm In Shock": Russians Scramble To Pull Money From ATMs As Bank Runs Begin
Tyler Durden's Photo

BY TYLER DURDEN
SUNDAY, FEB 27, 2022 - 11:49 AM

In his brief assessment on the impact exclusion from SWIFT would have on Ukrainian banks, hedge fund billionaire Bill Ackman said that "once a bank can’t transfer or receive funds from other banks, its solvency can be at risk. If I were Russian, I would take my money out now. Bank runs could begin in Russia on Monday."


He may have been off by one day, because in the hours following the western announcement to suspend some Russian banks from SWIFT and to launch sanctions on the Russian central bank, we have seen scenes across Russia reminiscent of a bank run as locals lined up at cash machines around the country to withdraw foreign currency amid growing fears the ruble could collapse when it resumes trading on Monday.


"I’ve stood in lines for an hour, but foreign currency is gone everywhere, just rubles,” said Vladimir, a 28-year-old programmer who declined to give his last name, while waiting in a long line at an ATM in a Moscow shopping mall. “I got a late start because I didn’t think this was possible. I’m in shock.”

There are indications that the ruble will fall sharply when trading opens on Monday. Exchange rates being offered by lenders are already varying widely on Sunday, from 98.08 rubles per dollar at Alfa Bank to 99.49 at Sberbank PJSC, 105 at VTB Group and 115 at Otkritie Bank at 3:30 p.m. in Moscow. The spot ruble price on the Moscow Exchange closed at 83 per dollar on Friday.
“I can’t see a scenario where it doesn’t get hammered,” said Paul McNamara, a fund manager at GAM Investments. “I don’t expect effective intervention in terms of pricing, but in terms of reducing legal grounds to sell rubles.”

The rush for foreign currency came despite Bloomberg reporting that some lenders selling dollars at more than a third higher than the market’s close on Friday, and well past the psychologically important level of 100 rubles per dollar that many economists said would trigger an interest-rate hike by the Bank of Russia. The shock came as Russians were still digesting news that Europe was closing its airspace to them and popular payment systems like ApplePay would stop working.

Late on Saturday, the U.S. and the European Union agreed to kick some Russian banks off the SWIFT financial messaging system and freeze the central bank’s reserves. On Sunday, the EU announced it would close of its airspace to Russian carriers, which could make it difficult to physically transport cash into the country.

The central bank said last week it was increasing supplies of cash to ATMs to meet the demand and issued another statement Sunday vowing to provide banks “uninterrupted” supplies of rubles. The release made no mention of possible foreign-currency support or the sanctions.

Russia last faced a major run on cash in 2014, when plunging oil prices in the wake of western sanctions triggered a crash in the exchange rate. Sberbank, Russia’s biggest bank, ran through 1.3 trillion rubles ($16 billion) in a single week, according to Bloomberg.

“The situation is completely unstable, and sanctions and restrictions on the central bank can only get worse,” said Alexandra Suslina, a budget specialist at the Moscow-based Economic Expert Group. “There’s already a bit of a rush to take money out of ATMs, but no cash machine is designed for the lines that will appear at sanctioned banks.”

Meanwhile, on Sunday the Russian central bank said it would resume purchases of gold and precious metals from the domestic market starting Monday, although it wasn't immediately clear who the sanctioned central bank would buy gold from. Furthermore, in light of the upcoming liquidity scramble, it is more likely that Russia will need to start selling some of its gold reserves which according to Credit Suisse calculations amount to a little under $150 billion.
 

Matt

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Look at how clean she is... in a combat zone! Buildings behind her are rubble, she would look like the New Yorkers running from the twin towers if this was a real photo, even days after the explosion dust would still be everywhere.

I can't go for a walk looking for rabbits through the pinons without getting sweaty and dirty. My rifle can't spend an hour on the blm without getting dirty as well, especially my sling, tends to get sweaty.

It makes me sad that so many folks fall for this propaganda.
 

BV141

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They can get some info from this. But Taiwan is a totally different situation.
It's attacking a island nation. Almost a total Naval engagement.

Almost a total Naval engagement, Until they hit the beaches or choose not to use aircraft.
Command and control, air defense/manpad effectiveness, anti armor effectiveness, cyber effectiveness,..........
A great deal of Chinese equipment is based on Russian design (esp. aircraft and tanks.)
 

vector7

Dot Collector
I spoke with a retired army ranger today... He was very confident that we have boots on the ground in UKR (along with Great Britain and Canada)
They were planning all this to go down after 2016 election.

Like Bin Laden right before 2012...now the DNC/DS/CIA baited Putin to be JoeBama's CornPop just before the Midterms.
 

Jez

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AlfaMan

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When the old U.S.S.R. collapsed there was hyperinflation. People remember and act accordingly. Cash withdrawal makes sense,

I remember when the Soviet Union collapsed. I had a friend who lived in Belgorod oblast. People were starving that winter. We sent them a number of parcels of foodstuffs they couldn't get (which was pretty much everything). His parents were older, and his paycheck couldn't feed them.
I shipped a LOT of candy and Marlboros by the carton-for barter these items were solid gold. I'd also send them what I could in cash; 50-100 bucks every two weeks or so. Hid it in Folgers coffee containers and glued back the safety seal. Every time that cash got through; and an American 20 bucks would feed a family of 4 very well for a week. He would slip the local postal inspector a pack of Marlboros and the packages went through with no problems. I shipped nothing illegal; his family ate well all winter. People went hungry that first winter-what little we sent was quietly spread around to his family and neighbors.

He'd ship me Vatra cigarettes and Soviet propaganda posters, sent me a Russian coat from his army service period, etc. And letters describing how happy they were to be free. They were hungry and facing hard times, but they were happy to be free.
 

Hi-D

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Look at how clean she is... in a combat zone! Buildings behind her are rubble, she would look like the New Yorkers running from the twin towers if this was a real photo, even days after the explosion dust would still be everywhere.

I can't go for a walk looking for rabbits through the pinons without getting sweaty and dirty. My rifle can't spend an hour on the blm without getting dirty as well, especially my sling, tends to get sweaty.

It makes me sad that so many folks fall for this propaganda.

It is what reading and watching years of propaganda does to you.
 

Vegas321

Live free and survive
View: https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1497923042101575685

Video 47 sev

Putin: "Western countries aren't only taking unfriendly economic actions against our country, but leaders of major Nato countries are making aggressive statements about our country. So I order to move Russia's deterrence forces to a special regime of duty."


Embedded video

*PUTIN NUCLAER POSTURE CHANGE `ESCALATORY' STEP: PENTAGON

View: https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/1497953728451817483

Yep... This absolutely reeks of desperation.
Putin has become unhinged.
 

BV141

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Supplying MANPADS by the truck load goes a long way to effectively, though not completely, the same thing.

Yes supplying MANPADS by the truck load, effectively, it's the same thing.
But politically, it's not the same thing. And it doesn't cross the nuclear trip line as a NATO enforced no fly zone.
 
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