EBOLA Frisco, TX Possible Ebola Patient #2 - At Presby Dallas - Test Negative - 10/9/2014

[Lilbitsnana]

Well, CNN is reporting that Spain has six (6) more possible cases of Ebola. Seems to me, that sooner or later, the US won't be able to hide the cases that are most likely here in TX, at least among the family, if not among others as well.

 

[Medical Maven]

Well, CNN is reporting that Spain has six (6) more possible cases of Ebola. Seems to me, that sooner or later, the US won't be able to hide the cases that are most likely here in TX, at least among the family, if not among others as well.

If it is found out they were hiding cases, can you imagine the fury of the American People? It is one thing destroying hard drives to cover up an IRS investigation. It is quite another thing to whimsically play with American lives for political gain.

 

[Witness]

CDC is in denial.

CDC is believing their own lies.

Christopher Dyer of Dallas County Sheriffs Assoc is pissed.

Initial reports of Sgt. Monnig was that he was nauseated, not mentioned in numerous later news articles.

If Sgt. Monnig was in apartment 3 weeks after Duncan was in hospital, why did he say he had contact with patient zero?

Sgt. Monnig would not want to go to the hospital unless he was sure there was something serious going on, because he KNEW reporters would mob his house and family with questions.

At what point were the three officers taken off duty and told to self quarantine?

Sgt. Monnig has most likely been in contact with members of the Sheriffs Assoc all along and they knew his condition, that is why Christopher Dyer of the Assoc. is pissed, what does he know?

I was going to say maybe Sgt. Monnig has a kidney stone and that is why he has pain in his stomach, nausea, fever and flushed face.....until I heard of the other two officers, that information knocked me off my chair.

I want to know what happened to Duncan's family, why are they hidden and why no updates on their condition, or the ambulance drivers who picked up Duncan.

 

[Publius]

And at the press conference CDC will continue to spew the same old song and dance of "Ebola cannot be easily caught" and "We have everything under control."

I will have to exercise great SELF-control not to THROW something at the monitor while screaming when they do.

I can assure you they were not kissing or having sex so it's getting spread quite easily

 

[Lilbitsnana]

If it is found out they were hiding cases, can you imagine the fury of the American People? It is one thing destroying hard drives to cover up an IRS investigation. It is quite another thing to whimsically play with American lives for political gain.

Yes, but they have thought of using Ebola for political gain in one way or another. Never let a crisis go to waste.

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MagusIncognito ‏@David_j_Mullin 34m34 minutes ago

Theory Confirmed: Van Jones Wants Dems To Use #Ebola Panic In Their Favor http://po.st/3aZmiZ #news

http://freedomoutpost.com/2014/10/theory-confirmed-van-jones-wants-dems-use-ebola-panic-favor/

 

[bw]

If it is found out they were hiding cases, can you imagine the fury of the American People?

I can imagine fury, but unfortunately I see impotence.

 

[Cucv84]

Just a thought that's been running through my head. We are 4 weeks or so from elections with a class 4 pathogen that can kick in 6 to 21 days from exposure. How many cases will it take to declare a state of emergency and who makes that decision? Hate to think it but if the elections look like they are going south for the current leash holders never let a crises go to waste

 

[Witness]

Question:
Those x-ray scanners at airports, you know those round glass pods,
don't they give a burst of air to test for explosives?
Is that air recirculated? Wouldn't that blow ebola germs around?

Secondly, those thermal scanners checking passengers,
I've heard they are useless or at best only somewhat accurate at close distance.

If the sheriff has ebola, how is the man who picked up Duncan's luggage and put it on the plane?
Or TSA agent who patted down Duncan.

 

[jazzy]

I want to know what happened to Duncan's family, why are they hidden and why no updates on their condition, or the ambulance drivers who picked up Duncan.

yup--wheres LOUISE?
how come no interviews, no photos, no press? no heart wrenching film clips of the brave family? only someone giving statements on her behalf.....?

anyone read the statement that first came out after the announcement of duncans passing supposedly from louise? it was very proper and PR, sophisticated, the verbiage sounded nothing like louise's other interviews at all.

considering their exposure and the nature of ebola, there is no way one or more were not infected.

the only logical reason for no contact, no press, no interviews with the family is that they are infected and are being hidden.

 

[Cyclonemom]

If it is found out they were hiding cases, can you imagine the fury of the American People?

Most American people have their heads in the sand. If they don't know about it, it doesn't exist. They blindly and willing believe what they are told to believe.

Just look at Katrina. A major hurricane is headed for New Orleans, and most people can't even be troubled to evac until it's a day past too late.

They'll be sick and dead before they know something is happening outside of drama related to Dancing with the Stars.

 

[The Traveler]

Question:
Those x-ray scanners at airports, you know those round glass pods,
don't they give a burst of air to test for explosives?
Is that air recirculated? Wouldn't that blow ebola germs around?

Secondly, those thermal scanners checking passengers,
I've heard they are useless or at best only somewhat accurate at close distance.

If the sheriff has ebola, how is the man who picked up Duncan's luggage and put it on the plane?
Or TSA agent who patted down Duncan.

I go through those scanners at least twice a month and I don't remember any air being blown. The only thing I recall is the scanner rotating around 180 degrees and then you step out.

 

[Straycat]

Something that's been on my mind this afternoon... what are TPTB up to while we all watch Dallas? Running around like business as usual, or laying low?

 

[Be Well]

If Sgt. Monnig was in apartment 3 weeks after Duncan was in hospital, why did he say he had contact with patient zero?

I read it was 4 days. You probably meant 3 days.

 

[Mprepared]

I want to know what happened to Duncan's family, why are they hidden and why no updates on their condition, or the ambulance drivers who picked up Duncan.

yup--wheres LOUISE?
how come no interviews, no photos, no press? no heart wrenching film clips of the brave family? only someone giving statements on her behalf.....?

anyone read the statement that first came out after the announcement of duncans passing supposedly from louise? it was very proper and PR, sophisticated, the verbiage sounded nothing like louise's other interviews at all.

considering their exposure and the nature of ebola, there is no way one or more were not infected.

the only logical reason for no contact, no press, no interviews with the family is that they are infected and are being hidden.

I read that and the family called him Thomas, but they quoted one of Louise's daughters and she called him Eric.

 

[CTFIREBATTCHIEF]

Most American people have their heads in the sand. If they don't know about it, it doesn't exist. They blindly and willing believe what they are told to believe.

Just look at Katrina. A major hurricane is headed for New Orleans, and most people can't even be troubled to evac until it's a day past too late.

They'll be sick and dead before they know something is happening outside of drama related to Dancing with the Stars.

Ladies and Gentlemen, we've got a winner, those 3 sentences say it ALL!!

 

[rummer]

Per a cnn talking head expert said ebola only lasts on surfaces for barely an hour...we are in so much trouble

 

[LSV]

Is the flu going around TX?


WFAA TV retweeted
Janet St. James @janetstjames · 28m 28 minutes ago

BREAKING: @texashealth dallas will test for #flu in case of deputy inside #Ebola apartment. Risk for flu high, risk for Ebola low.

WFAA TV retweeted
Janet St. James @janetstjames · 30m 30 minutes ago

BREAKING: dallas co health advised deputy who went to clinic to see a doctor. more likely #flu case. He had no #Ebola contact


WFAA TV retweeted
Janet St. James @janetstjames · 32m 32 minutes ago

BREAKING: deputy at @texashealth dallas NOT one of 48 close contacts of deceased #Ebola patient. He DID contact health dept.

Isnt it too early for the regular Flu season?
Lisa

 

[greysage]

Something that's been on my mind this afternoon... what are TPTB up to while we all watch Dallas? Running around like business as usual, or laying low?

Not worrying about a thing as they have the vaccine, bunkers, and time while they wait for the American population to have a massive die off and/or be too weak to put up serious resistance.

 

[Lilbitsnana]

Isnt it too early for the regular Flu season?
Lisa

That was why I asked. It seemed to me, they are wanting to use flu as a coverup, unless it really is going around Texas/Dallas.

 

[SusieSunshine]

I go through those scanners at least twice a month and I don't remember any air being blown. The only thing I recall is the scanner rotating around 180 degrees and then you step out.

I have never been thru one, but daughters tell me they have in Albuquerque airport.

 

[Mama Ten Bears]

Isnt it too early for the regular Flu season?
Lisa

That was why I asked. It seemed to me, they are wanting to use flu as a coverup, unless it really is going around Texas/Dallas.

I live in the Metroplex. No flu going around that I know about. I asked my daughter, who said she knows no one who has been absent from school with the flu.

 

[Lilbitsnana]

WFAA TV retweeted
Janet St. James @janetstjames · 52m 52 minutes ago

Update: deputy transfered from frisco carenow clinic still isolated in @texashealth Dallas, tested for #Ebola and more common viruses.


WFAA TV retweeted
Todd Unger @ToddWFAA8 · 1h 1 hour ago

At 10, we sit down for 1st interview w/cleaning crews that actually decontaminated #Ebola apartment @wfaachannel8



WFAA TV @wfaachannel8 · 59m 59 minutes ago

Read @CityOfFriscoTx statement re: Frisco FD Bio-Haz-Mat response @CareNow http://bit.ly/1uDyCYw



WFAA TV @wfaachannel8 · 1h 1 hour ago

Care Now Frisco closing tonight for "deep cleaning." Won't reopen until Fri. AM -@CityOfFriscoTx statement.

 

[joyfulheart]

I live in the Metroplex. No flu going around that I know about. I asked my daughter, who said she knows no one who has been absent from school with the flu.

No flu that I've seen or heard in Frisco.
Asked my friend who is office manager for doctors office. 0 cases at her office.

 

[Lilbitsnana]

I live in the Metroplex. No flu going around that I know about. I asked my daughter, who said she knows no one who has been absent from school with the flu.

Thank you, that is what I figured.

 

[Witness]

Here is an interesting video:

Published on Oct 8, 2014

Evidence now suggests the NBC cameraman contracted Ebola via airborne exposure as did the Spanish nurse. In this clip Dr. Rima Laibow CONFIRMS that Ebola is not only airborne but it is weaponized.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zb41sCOqPw

She also says ebola loves cold weather.

 

[Lilbitsnana]

She also says ebola loves cold weather.

Yes, I and others have been saying that for a couple of months, at least...and that it can live for weeks on surfaces depending on the environment/surface.

 

[Countrymouse]

Son: Possible second Ebola patient 'didn't mean to cause panic'

The son of Sgt. Michael Monnig said his father did not mean to cause a panic Wednesday when he went to a Frisco clinic with possible Ebola symptoms.

London Monnig told News 8 that his father didn't have a fever when he went to the CareNow clinic in Frisco, a suburb of Dallas, and he believes his father does not have the fatal disease.

London Monning said his father was simply not feeling well Wednesday morning.

"He woke up and he just kind of felt sore and had a bit of a stomach ache," London Monnig said. "He's a very cautious person so he took it upon himself to check himself out to make sure he's okay."
Michael Monnig is one of the deputies who went into the apartment of Thomas Eric Duncan, who died of Ebola Wednesday morning.

Since that day, Monnig has been monitoring his fever twice daily.

"It's a low to no risk," London Monnig said. "He would have had to come in contact with the bodily fluids with Duncan himself, which he did not."

London Monnig said his father went to the CareNow clinic as a precaution.

http://www.kens5.com/story/news/loc...a-patient-didnt-mean-to-cause-panic/16946417/

"he didn't have a fever"----but the boy is talking as if FEVER is the ONLY thing that can be called a "symptom" of Ebola--and completely ignores the fact that he has just SAID his father had two OTHER "symptoms"----muscle aches and nausea.


He then goes on to say one needed "direct contact with the fluids of Eric Duncan" to get sick---apparently he's NEVER HEARD OF one ebola-infected patient infecting another.


MADNESS.


This level of willing (or uninformed) ignorance is going to get MANY killed.

 

[connie]

In midland tx they were testing a woman from turkey who was vomiting on a flight. People in hotel were wearing masks. Also heard many people were wearing masks in Houston airport.

 

[Lilbitsnana]

In midland tx they were testing a woman from turkey who was vomiting on a flight. People in hotel were wearing masks. Also heard many people were wearing masks in Houston airport.

Today?

I don't blame people wearing masks while in airports.

 

[Be Well]

"he didn't have a fever"----but the boy is talking as if FEVER is the ONLY thing that can be called a "symptom" of Ebola--and completely ignores the fact that he has just SAID his father had two OTHER "symptoms"----muscle aches and nausea.


He then goes on to say one needed "direct contact with the fluids of Eric Duncan" to get sick---apparently he's NEVER HEARD OF one ebola-infected patient infecting another.


MADNESS.


This level of willing (or uninformed) ignorance is going to get MANY killed.

One of the big problems is that a person can "directly contact" bodily fluids on SURFACES. The ebola infected person doesn't have to be present - just their bodily fluids on surfaces. This ignorance is going to kill people. As well as the damnable lie that the virus can only remain active on surfaces for a very short time.

 

[Ozlady]

I read where Dr Brantly , when asked how he got infected replied "through the mail"

 

[msswv123]

One of the big problems is that a person can "directly contact" bodily fluids on SURFACES. The ebola infected person doesn't have to be present - just their bodily fluids on surfaces. This ignorance is going to kill people. As well as the damnable lie that the virus can only remain active on surfaces for a very short time.

If you have ever had children and a tummy bug in the house...no matter how hard you try to disinfect and isolate the affected party ...everyone in the house usually gets it or at least that's been my experience thus far.


For instance. Norovirus we remember hearing of the hundreds of people on cruise ships getting it and the outbreaks in daycares etc: This write up says it is ABSOLUTELY not airborne and is only transmitted specific ways outlined here..more info at link.

Transmission

Norovirus is transmitted through the fecal-oral (feces meaning “stool” and oral meaning “mouth”) route. This means you have to "swallow" the virus particles contained in the feces or vomit of someone who has the virus. “Swallow” means to ingest it into your gastro-intestinal system which is through your mouth. You bite your nails, you lick your fingers, or you contaminate that hotdog bun with your hand and then eat it. It’s also possible that a food-handler with Norovirus touches your food (that isn’t cooked) with dirty hands and then you eat it. This is one form of “food poisoning.” You may contract Norovirus through uncooked shellfish. Raw sewage finds its way into the ocean and into the shellfish – mainly those eaten raw or steamed – oysters, mussels, clams.

When someone vomits outside of a closed-in room (such as a bathroom) the act of vomiting produces a mist or spray that can send airborne particles into the mouths and noses of anyone nearby. As well, vomit particles may land on all surfaces in a bathroom such as flusher handles, taps, counters, even toothbrushes or cups. These are highly contagious. Similarly, diapers and clothing with fecal matter are highly contagious. Cleanup immediately all surfaces with a bleach solution. Wear a mask.

The virus can be active outside a host (person) on surfaces such as counters, toilets, faucets, doorknobs and even clothing. It is unknown exactly how long the virus can live on such surfaces, as this depends on the number of viral particles, temperature, and the nature of the environment. Remember that you cannot catch it by just touching a doorknob. You would have to put your hand into your mouth. Therefore, hand-washing is imperative to prevention of transmission.

The main reason for all Norovirus outbreaks is poor hygiene, i.e., people defecating and not washing hands afterward, then contaminating surfaces or foods Note: Alcohol-based hand gels do not kill Norovirus!


http://www.emetophobiahelp.org/norovirus.html


Another thing that has bugged me throughout is the fact the daughter of the girlfriend said she warned the ambulance workers that day that he was from Africa and told them to put on a mask before coming in....BUT then she gets the blanket she has had wrapped around the victim and takes it with her and into the hospital and never mentions whether she and the others with her put on or ask for masks.

 

[helen]

To follow up on the vomit becoming an aerosol ...

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16033465



CONCLUSIONS:

Although a single flush reduced the level of micro-organisms in the toilet bowl water when contaminated at concentrations reflecting pathogen shedding, large numbers of micro-organisms persisted on the toilet bowl surface and in the bowl water which were disseminated into the air by further flushes.

SIGNIFICANCE AND IMPACT OF THE STUDY:

Many individuals may be unaware of the risk of air-borne dissemination of microbes when flushing the toilet and the consequent surface contamination that may spread infection within the household, via direct surface-to-hand-to mouth contact. Some enteric viruses could persist in the air after toilet flushing and infection may be acquired after inhalation and swallowing.


Panic Sex Lady is making herself sick ...

 

[Countrymouse]

To follow up on the vomit becoming an aerosol ...

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16033465


CONCLUSIONS:

Although a single flush reduced the level of micro-organisms in the toilet bowl water when contaminated at concentrations reflecting pathogen shedding, large numbers of micro-organisms persisted on the toilet bowl surface and in the bowl water which were disseminated into the air by further flushes.

SIGNIFICANCE AND IMPACT OF THE STUDY:

Many individuals may be unaware of the risk of air-borne dissemination of microbes when flushing the toilet and the consequent surface contamination that may spread infection within the household, via direct surface-to-hand-to mouth contact. Some enteric viruses could persist in the air after toilet flushing and infection may be acquired after inhalation and swallowing.


Panic Sex Lady is making herself sick ...

The sound quality is terrible but the pictures tell it all:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eB-l05yiwvY

 

[msswv123]

The sound quality is terrible but the pictures tell it all:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eB-l05yiwvY

I think this would apply to anything being flushed...AND you have several children running around "most likely" using the same restroom, tissue, soap and towels at that point.

We also don't know if Mr. Duncan used the RR at the ER on the first trip when he was released.

 

[Kris Gandillon]

This level of willing (or uninformed) ignorance is going to get MANY killed.

You also just described West Africa...and yes it has....at least 4,000 officially...and maybe as much as 12,000 to 16,000 so far in reality...

 

[Mprepared]

"he didn't have a fever"----but the boy is talking as if FEVER is the ONLY thing that can be called a "symptom" of Ebola--and completely ignores the fact that he has just SAID his father had two OTHER "symptoms"----muscle aches and nausea.


He then goes on to say one needed "direct contact with the fluids of Eric Duncan" to get sick---apparently he's NEVER HEARD OF one ebola-infected patient infecting another.


MADNESS.


This level of willing (or uninformed) ignorance is going to get MANY killed.

He walked in hunched over. People do not walk hunched over unless they are sick.

 

[Mprepared]

Here is an interesting video:

Published on Oct 8, 2014

Evidence now suggests the NBC cameraman contracted Ebola via airborne exposure as did the Spanish nurse. In this clip Dr. Rima Laibow CONFIRMS that Ebola is not only airborne but it is weaponized.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zb41sCOqPw

She also says ebola loves cold weather.

Is this for real? What does that mean weaponized? I understand airborne, but what is weaponized?

 

[Hacker]

This care now is 5 minutes from my house.

Freaking Fantastic.
I have additional information on the patient, but cannot share it or the person that told me will be fired. Let's just say that if you see them come back on tv and say this patient does not have ebola, it's a LIE.

Is this for real? What does that mean weaponized? I understand airborne, but what is weaponized?

"Weaponized" means it was created by human beings specifically to be used as a weapon.

I believe this is true - which means we're at war. The only question now is: who's the attacker?

 

[Kris Gandillon]

Is this for real? What does that mean weaponized? I understand airborne, but what is weaponized?

You always need to take almost anything like this on Youtube with at least a small grain of salt...or maybe a large handful...depending on the video.

But "weaponized" basically means it (the virus, bacteria, whatever) has been "engineered" / "modified" such that it retains its infectious characteristics (stability and longevity) such that is can be used as a weapon (even to the point of being launched and/or delivered via various delivery systems such as MIRV, etc.) and it is usually tweaked to be more infectious/virulent or cause other health problems beyond the "original" capabilities of the agent.