CHAT What If The Draft Is Brought Back?

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I think we'll be talking about this more and more as our "Whore of Babylon" country has us in WWIII over their nazi/proxy/money-laundering scheme in Ukraine.

I truly do believe the draft will be reinstated and I wonder how many Americans really want to go die in a war the Dems and RINOs have already decided to lose even though it helps them reduce the population?


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ShadowMan

Designated Grumpy Old Fart
Unless a major city or cities get nuked.....and everyone goes UBER PATRIOTIC, like after Pearl Harbor or 9/11, it will never happen. The American people are fed up with the government, don't trust them and certainly will not tolerate a draft of ANY KIND.

Besides the fact that what's available to be drafted is in pretty PISS POOR SHAPE, physically, emotionally, intellectually and pretty much every other point of measurement. Heck half of them don't even know what gender they are. :rofl:

I can just see them going through boot camp, a WAR TIME boot camp! You can't take a time out or tell your Drill Instructor to stop yelling at you and calling you names. :hof:I can just see a "Karen" or "Ken" back talking a REAL D.I. :smkd:And what about all those "helicopter" parents. They'll probably want to go to boot camp with their little tender babies.

Nope, I just don't see it happening, not without something really MAJOR going down. A Pearl Harbor attack or a 9/11 or something bigger.
 

Wildwood

Veteran Member
I pray they don't. At this point, I don't have a first degree relative in the cross hairs unless they start drafting people in their mid forties...my sons are both in that group and my grandson isn't even a teen yet but it won't be long. My DILs are mid thirties but both have health issues that I think would keep them out. My only nephew in the age range is already in the NG.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
The real issue is that even a WARTIME boot camp can't compensate for 18 years of inadequate nutrition, weak bones, and being severely overweight. You can force diet people down, but humans raised on junk food with little exercise tend to have skeletal problems that can't be reversed and certainly not quickly.

That will put unfair pressure on the much smaller segment of the young population who managed to stay healthy: the athletes, the upper-middle class, homeschooled homesteaders, some old military families, and the like. Wealthy people will not want to send their precious darlings into a meat grinder.

It isn't about snowflakes; it is about physical reality. A friend in the military told me that these days, they are losing even highly motivated young people who look healthy but have bones so compromised that they break under the strain of a 25-mile hike or heavy backpack.

I have no idea how a modern military will deal with this. China is already cracking down and paying attention to what its children eat and how they exercise. It is coordinating some of its educational programs to ensure more physical activity and healthy (non-ultraprocessed food) in some urban areas. They are also trying to restrict the time severely spent gaming on computers (good luck with that, but they are trying). They started this about three or so years ago, but it will take the US at least 10 to 18 years to grow a new and stronger generation IF they start now. I can't see that happening, especially where "cannon fodder" drafted troops tend to come from.

This isn't the 1960s when most kids still rode bikes and even poor kids at what Momma (or grandma) put on the table, except for treats. Kids with natural whole milk in school and poor children whose school lunches were cooked on-site from ordinary ingredients, not microwaved ultra-processed garbage.

I have no idea how they will deal with this problem, but pretending all the "Snowfakes will toughen up" isn't a likely solution if they can't go on a 20-mile hike without breaking. Not everyone will, but there is already a problem with this, and that is with an all-volunteer service.
 

Publius

TB Fanatic
I'm past my due date and with the injury I got two and a half years ago I'm no use to them as I cannot run, they would not even hire me as an instructor.
 

Kathy in FL

Administrator
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My son in law goes in on the 15th. Infantry is where he wants to be. A week of intake, 11 weeks of basic, then another 3-ish months of advanced infantry training. At some point along the way he needs to go to OTS (officer's training school or whatever the Army calls it) and then on to the other stuff he seeks.

He has heard from a number of people that this is not the same military basic/boot camp that it was for the previous generations. There have been lots of changes. A lot will depend on the drill sergeant. In some units you don't even have to give up your phone, or you get a call every week, etc. Physical requirements have been lowered significantly. My son in law is older than average - 25 - for a newly enlisted person but it also put him heads above other enlistees. He wants to make this a career, but we'll have to see. Life happens and things change.
 

Kathy in FL

Administrator
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If you had a child of draft age today would you tell them it is their patriotic duty to go if they got called?

I'd tell them the reality and let them make their own choice as the adult they are. If you don't answer that draft, you will go to jail. Or if you become a draft dodger don't ever plan on returning to the US.

Them's the realities folks. If they do what they've done to the J6 crowd, imagine what they'll do to the dodgers.
 

Griz3752

Retired, practising Curmudgeon
My son in law goes in on the 15th. Infantry is where he wants to be. A week of intake, 11 weeks of basic, then another 3-ish months of advanced infantry training. At some point along the way he needs to go to OTS (officer's training school or whatever the Army calls it) and then on to the other stuff he seeks.

He has heard from a number of people that this is not the same military basic/boot camp that it was for the previous generations. There have been lots of changes. A lot will depend on the drill sergeant. In some units you don't even have to give up your phone, or you get a call every week, etc. Physical requirements have been lowered significantly. My son in law is older than average - 25 - for a newly enlisted person but it also put him heads above other enlistees. He wants to make this a career, but we'll have to see. Life happens and things change.
He married into your family so, if I had to bet, he was vetted for being the right sort of person along the way.

I'll add him to my wife's growing prayer call list.
 
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Meemur

Voice on the Prairie / FJB!
If you had a child of draft age today would you tell them it is their patriotic duty to go if they got called?

It would depend. If the child was basically worthless, a directionless blob, yes, although in today's climate, I doubt that even the military could turn that around.

Folks, today's military is far different from the institution that turned around your lives. Woke crap has invaded. I see the results in my area when accidents happen on the base. These kids/soldiers lack the ability to concentrate and follow safety routines consistently.
 

L.A.B.

Goodness before greatness.
I have not read through every thread post at this time, but yesterday on Newsmax I heard that the draft was being contemplated.

Bringing back the draft for 18 to 26-year-olds…
 
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Elza

Veteran Member
If you had a child of draft age today would you tell them it is their patriotic duty to go if they got called?
HELL NO!

Please note my response in post #22. My draft number was above 340 and they only drafted to something like 90 (last year of draft, seriously drawing down in Viet Nam). I enlisted anyway. This is how I felt then. Now, not a chance in hell would I go and I certainly would try to talk anyone out of going.

I never in my wildest imagination would have thought that I'd feel this way. I loved my country and I liked my time in the Army. Hell, I had a ball while I was in and I got FAR more out of it than I put into it!! Those three years paid dividends through my entire life. It was one of the best decisions I ever made.

But then, I would have never have imagined my country would turn into what it is today. I miss my country terribly.
 

ShadowMan

Designated Grumpy Old Fart
When I retired from the military over 25 years ago, many of the young Marine recruits had a hard time passing the physical training back then. Stress fractures of the feet, lower and upper legs, it was a mess!! A simple 10-15 mile hump with a light (25lb) pack and kids were falling out left and right. Had several that just from walking in combat boots and light rucks had their femurs actually shatter!?!?! I'm not making this up! It was sad the shape they were in. I would imagine it's even worse today.

After I retired from the navy I got my degree and was teaching at various high schools. Kids didn't "dress out" for P.E. and they didn't even do any physical training. They just walked around the football track with their friends and cell phones. Never saw even one bead of sweat on any of them....pathetic!
 

moldy

Veteran Member
Would pregnancy even grant an exemption, or would an abortion be mandated?

I have 2 wonderful SILs in the Natl Guard. One is currently deployed in the MidEast. The SILs and DDs are adults (and adulting pretty darn well) and make their own decisions - but this mama prays a LOT.

If a draft is reinstated, I think it would not be much different from Ukraine. TPTB will take whoever they can find - and it might be us old farts if we have skills they desire.
 

L.A.B.

Goodness before greatness.
It would depend. If the child was basically worthless, a directionless blob, yes, although in today's climate, I doubt that even the military could turn that around.

Folks, today's military is far different from the institution that turned around your lives. Woke crap has invaded. I see the results in my area when accidents happen on the base. These kids/soldiers lack the ability to concentrate and follow safety routines consistently.

You cannot wrap up a 18 - 26 year old in desert camo and tell me the wrapper suddenly changed the contents of the total package.

The Special Ones are special. The rest. Roll the dice on em.
 

ainitfunny

Saved, to glorify God.
I imagine it would become necessary to implant female
draftees with subdermal long term contraceptives.
("for their own protection")
 
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