SouthernBreeze
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Well, that sheds a different light on things.
ALERT UK: King Charles has cancer/Update; has Bell's Palsy
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Well, that sheds a different light on things.
Yup. He's just coming back from taking time off to handle Kate being in the hospital. Back to work. Anne and Edward will be pitching in, too.
night driver
ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
I'll happily take a bet that Harry and Wills start working through their differences quite literally for "The Good of Britania and The Firm".
Anne may have to knock some heads together to get this to happen.....and you can bet SHE has the ability.
Something on the order of "DAMMIT children, this has gone on long enough!! Don't make me lock you two in a room and slide rations under the door!"
Anne may have to knock some heads together to get this to happen.....and you can bet SHE has the ability.
Something on the order of "DAMMIT children, this has gone on long enough!! Don't make me lock you two in a room and slide rations under the door!"
bw
Fringe Ranger
This is Meghan's great fear - that Harry gets out from under her control. Once he does, if he does, he's never going to get whipped again. I have no great hope - he's weak.
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
Sorry what they said and had in PRINT on the local station here was "assume" King Charles duties, not resume his previous duties!
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
Either way, I suspect given his age, his cancer diagnosis, etc., announcing it was probably smart on their part... cause don't they do dry runs for the eventual demise of the king/queen??? Doing so now, given how old his mom and grandmother lived to be would probably cause a lot of rumors and raise a lot of suspicions.
pauldingbabe
The Great Cat
Are they polishing the brass and oiling the tack?
Melodi
Disaster Cat
William, Anne, and Camilla were already performing some Royal Duties. There are photos of William knighting people, like Charles, from when he was Prince.
What has yet to happen, but will if the situation worsens, is having any of them appointed to a position where they can perform The Monarch's constitutional duties, such as opening Parliament, appointing the Prime Minister, or the daily Red Box paperwork. Several family members would qualify for this appointment (I think it is called A Minister of State, but I'm not sure): Camilla, Anne, William, and I believe Edward (the youngest brother). Neither Andrew nor Harry qualifies at this point.
One clue that this is serious (no matter what they say) is that it was just announced that the King's weekly meetings with the Prime Minister will be held on the phone (which is unheard of). So, my guess is Charles is having chemo or another treatment that would lower his immune system. But that's just a guess.
What has yet to happen, but will if the situation worsens, is having any of them appointed to a position where they can perform The Monarch's constitutional duties, such as opening Parliament, appointing the Prime Minister, or the daily Red Box paperwork. Several family members would qualify for this appointment (I think it is called A Minister of State, but I'm not sure): Camilla, Anne, William, and I believe Edward (the youngest brother). Neither Andrew nor Harry qualifies at this point.
One clue that this is serious (no matter what they say) is that it was just announced that the King's weekly meetings with the Prime Minister will be held on the phone (which is unheard of). So, my guess is Charles is having chemo or another treatment that would lower his immune system. But that's just a guess.
The working Royals all do official work. Mostly through patronages and the like. William & Anne have also done investitures.
Counsellors of State can stand in for the King officially. They can carry out duties such as attending Privy Council meetings, signing routine documents and receiving the credentials of new ambassadors to the United Kingdom. Counsellors were routinely called upon when Queen Elizabeth was traveling abroad.
Traditionally the Counsellors have been the monarch’s spouse and the next four people in the line of succession over the age of 21. As of last Fall, Princess Anne & Prince Edward have been made Counsellors and it has been stated that only working royals would be able to act in this capacity. So even though Prince Harry, Princess Beatrice & Prince Andrew are Counsellors under the law, they will never be called upon.
TLDR - as it stands right now Queen Camilla, Prince William, Princess Anne & Prince Edward could each be called upon to stand in for the King if necessary.
Worst case Prince William would be appointed Regent.
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packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
This is what I'd like to know as well. In the event of his demise, where will he be buried?
bw
Fringe Ranger
Harry flew back because Meghan got her photo op and the palace told Harry to get stuffed. That mission went as far as it was going to go.
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
when did they officially say that it was caught early?
night driver
ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
The "We caught it early and everything will be OK!" announcement claim is going to need some support at this point. I hain't seen it anywhere.
I apparently also missed Harry's return.
I apparently also missed Harry's return.
Sammy55
Veteran Member
Harry really raised his carbon footprint with the airflight for a 45 minute visit with his father. 
Why did he even bother? For just 45 minutes? I'd like to know if he only set aside 45 minutes or if his father did? Or maybe King Charles wasn't strong enough for a visit longer than that. Charles left and went to Sandringham (to recover after treatment) almost right after Harry left.
Things are still not good in their relationships if Harry chose to stay in a hotel instead of one of the royal residences. He was offered a place to stay amongst family, but he chose a hotel. He must still be whining.
Why did he even bother? For just 45 minutes? I'd like to know if he only set aside 45 minutes or if his father did? Or maybe King Charles wasn't strong enough for a visit longer than that. Charles left and went to Sandringham (to recover after treatment) almost right after Harry left.Things are still not good in their relationships if Harry chose to stay in a hotel instead of one of the royal residences. He was offered a place to stay amongst family, but he chose a hotel. He must still be whining.
energy_wave
Has No Life - Lives on TB
How come we never had a heads up on any of the other royal family members illnesses? Maybe this has come out to let the masses know a new young king is coming to power soon, so it won't be a shock when it happens. They'll come out in stages to adjust the public.
rafter
Since 1999
They have always kept it on the hush and hush. This tells me whatever kind Charles has is pretty progressive with not much time left to live. Thus the announcement to get the country ready for a change again.
energy_wave
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Must be one of those fast growing cancers that emerged right after the Covid shots were mandated. Strange how that happened.
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
Same on the we caught it early part.
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
Seriously enough with the Covid shit!!!! Some cancers are incredibly aggressive long before Covid came a long.
Tristan
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TBonz
Veteran Member
Google is your friend, people.
www.theguardian.com
I happen to watch the BBC news quite a bit, so I heard it there, but this was the first thing that came up when I put it "Sunak" and "They caught it early."
Now if you don't believe the Prime Minister of the UK, who was no doubt briefed in full, nothing I can say.
King Charles’s cancer was caught early, says Rishi Sunak
PM says he was ‘shocked and sad’ when told of the diagnosis and wishes the king a full recovery
www.theguardian.com
I happen to watch the BBC news quite a bit, so I heard it there, but this was the first thing that came up when I put it "Sunak" and "They caught it early."
Now if you don't believe the Prime Minister of the UK, who was no doubt briefed in full, nothing I can say.
Melodi
Disaster Cat
Which means They Caught It Early, is the official story. But we don't know what type it is, and some cancers can progress rapidly, and others tend to take their time about it.
Oh, and I gather the Queen did Zoom meetings with the Prime Minister during COVID, which makes sense. So, there is a president for doing so. It has been mentioned in a couple of places that she had a form of blood cancer by the end of things, but I suspect at her age she opted for avoiding any extensive treatment; especially if it would have made her feel even sicker and probably had a low chance of doing much good. Since she met with both the out-going and incoming Prime Ministers within three days of her death, I'm guessing she felt frail but was coping fairly well (at least mentally) until the end.
Oh, and I gather the Queen did Zoom meetings with the Prime Minister during COVID, which makes sense. So, there is a president for doing so. It has been mentioned in a couple of places that she had a form of blood cancer by the end of things, but I suspect at her age she opted for avoiding any extensive treatment; especially if it would have made her feel even sicker and probably had a low chance of doing much good. Since she met with both the out-going and incoming Prime Ministers within three days of her death, I'm guessing she felt frail but was coping fairly well (at least mentally) until the end.
This stuff about constantly asking if someone was vaxxed or not is getting tiresome again. It is showing up on every thread. Drop it. Stop it. Pick another topic.
night driver
ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
Thank you, ma'am.
PghPanther
Has No Life - Lives on TB
He's been a cancer on society his whole adult life...........
SlipperySlope
Veteran Member
I don't really have a side in the royal drama. My family is also very dysfunctional. I do feel a bit sorry for Harry though. He dropped everything on a moments notice and all Charles gave him was less than an hour of a visit.
Wildweasel
F-4 Phantoms Phorever
Which makes me wonder. Instances of fast acting cancers have shot up since people have gotten the Covid vax, which somehow targets the immune system response to cancer. Before that the only fast acting cancers observed seemed to be "awfully convenient" cases, where someone the government didn't like would 'conveniently" come down with a fatal, fast acting cancer.
Almost as if there was some sort of assassination weapon used to give them the cancer. Hence rumors and "crazy talk" about CIA cancer guns. But what if there is some truth to that and that mechanism got included in the Covid shots given to certain people? Or if the vax contains a diluted dose of the turbo cancer weapon used by the CIA/KGB/MI-6/whoever before Covid?
Hfcomms
EN66iq
At this point it really doesn’t matter if people were vaxxed or not. There is a full spectrum assault on the immune systems of people today and we are being attacked from many angles. People are on all sorts of meds that attrit or change the immune response. There are environmental toxins from water, air and frankenfoods. Speaking of foods people don’t get the nutrition they need to mount a robust immune response even if they avoid the processed foods and chemicals put into them. Even if you eat ‘organic’ most soils are depleated of trace minerals and then add to the mix the stress they are under and lack of sleep as well as exercise.
Regardless of vaccination status a lot of this stuff happening today might well have nothing to do with it. If King Charles and other wealthy people can get cancers it can happen to anyone. It behooves us all to be proactive with our health and not to take it for granted. If we are not educated as to what to do and then actually do it then sooner or later we are likely to end up in the same boat.
Wyominglarry
Veteran Member
My vote is he got a bunch of clotshots and now his body is primed for turbo cancer.
bw
Fringe Ranger
If I were in charge of breaking this to the country, and he had two weeks to live, this is the story I'd start out with.
Last warning on the vax crap. From here on out, if i see it, it is going to get deleted. After that I’ll start bumping people from threads. Beyond that? Threads themselves are going to start closing or getting moved to TIO. This obsession is getting destructive to cogent discussions.
night driver
ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
Kath, you KNOW that until SOMEONE gets tossed nothing is going to change. We are WAY too much boundary pushers.
Barry Natchitoches
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Excuse me, but my wife had a radical hysterectomy (much more extensive than a regular hysterectomy) through an open incision (the incision was 12 inches long). She also had the ovaries and fallopian tubes removed, had a bunch of para-aortic and pelvis lymph nodes removed.
Not to mention removal of a cancerous, nearly 3 pound tumor that was the approximate size of the state of Texas.
With all of that, she was only kept in the hospital 4 DAYS AND 3 NIGHTS!!!
I doubt Kate’s hysterectomy - if that is what she had - was anywhere near as extensive as my wife’s cancer surgery.
Kate’s 10 to 14 day hospitalization was, indeed, special privilege, unless there was alot more going on than just that.
Even your week was much better than what my wife was given.
She had the same old style of surgery that you had, Melodi, but probably more extensive because of all the cancer that had to be removed.
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Melodi
Disaster Cat
I had the same surgery as your wife, and in Ireland, I spent over a week in the hospital (actually, I spent a month, but it was because I also had other unrelated issues). I didn't have stage four cancer of the reproductive tract, but the surgeon thought I did. I had a tumor the size of an American football inside an ovary and one the size of an orange in my uterus. My whole system was also trashed with endometriosis. What looked like "classic" cancer was an extreme case of PCOS.
They send people home almost overnight in the USA because insurance demands it, and if the patient is uninsured, the government payments (if any) are way too low to cover the costs. I had a friend with no insurance who needed an emergency appendectomy. He e-mailed me in Ireland because he was operated on and sent home in the middle of the same night, even though they knew there was no one there to assist him. After all, the hospital didn't want to pay to keep him for observation.
I have had several friends now with full hysterectomies, and I can assure you that inside or outside a hospital, MOST women take at least a couple of months to recover. I might have been OK being sent home; I was up and eating the same afternoon due to a mix-up with the doctor's order, but he was impressed and happy about it. But because Ireland has something like a real health system (and I did have private insurance to top it up), they kept me another week until they were sure it wasn't cancer.
As you and your wife sadly discovered, many medical decisions are made in the US not based on best medical practice but on costs. They know people with limited or no insurance probably will never cover the full costs. Bills of over a million dollars are common, and even thirty years ago, it was the cause of 50 percent of bankruptcies when I worked in bankruptcy court.
I am very sorry your wife had to go through all that, although honestly, recovering at home with a loving husband might have been more comfortable for her than being in a US hospital.
They send people home almost overnight in the USA because insurance demands it, and if the patient is uninsured, the government payments (if any) are way too low to cover the costs. I had a friend with no insurance who needed an emergency appendectomy. He e-mailed me in Ireland because he was operated on and sent home in the middle of the same night, even though they knew there was no one there to assist him. After all, the hospital didn't want to pay to keep him for observation.
I have had several friends now with full hysterectomies, and I can assure you that inside or outside a hospital, MOST women take at least a couple of months to recover. I might have been OK being sent home; I was up and eating the same afternoon due to a mix-up with the doctor's order, but he was impressed and happy about it. But because Ireland has something like a real health system (and I did have private insurance to top it up), they kept me another week until they were sure it wasn't cancer.
As you and your wife sadly discovered, many medical decisions are made in the US not based on best medical practice but on costs. They know people with limited or no insurance probably will never cover the full costs. Bills of over a million dollars are common, and even thirty years ago, it was the cause of 50 percent of bankruptcies when I worked in bankruptcy court.
I am very sorry your wife had to go through all that, although honestly, recovering at home with a loving husband might have been more comfortable for her than being in a US hospital.
Grounded Idealist
Hope Always
Serious question: is this now a TB2K rule with regards to posting? I’m in and out of here so am not up to date on the latest rules and regs of posting. TIA
Last warning on the vax crap. From here on out, if i see it, it is going to get deleted. After that I’ll start bumping people from threads. Beyond that? Threads themselves are going to start closing or getting moved to TIO. This obsession is getting destructive to cogent discussions.