WAR Russian Tanks Rolling Into South Ossetia! Hot War!-9/22-#2534

Red Baron

Paleo-Conservative
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The area is of strategic importance, largely because of the BTC oil pipeline, which runs through central Georgia just south of the breakaway region. The pipeline – which features in the 1999 James Bond film The World is Not Enough – pumps around one per cent of global crude supplies from the Caspian to the Turkish port of Ceyhan for export to Western Europe but is already closed because of an attack in Turkey last week by the Kurdish separatist organisation PKK.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article4486208.ece
 

Moon

Veteran Member
Breaking news is that Russian peacekeepers have arrived at South Ossetian capital and state it s almost completely destroyed
 

Moon

Veteran Member
What will Russia do next? as George and Putin are now talking i would love to be a fly on the wall
 

Moon

Veteran Member
Given a great deal of Oil especially European Oil goes through Georgia......wonder what this will do the prices
 

NBCsurvivor

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http://www.debka.com/article.php?aid=1358

interesting....



Israel backs Georgia in Caspian Oil Pipeline Battle with Russia


Georgian tanks and infantry, aided by Israeli military advisers, captured the capital of breakaway South Ossetia, Tskhinvali, early Friday, Aug. 8, bringing the Georgian-Russian conflict over the province to a military climax.
 

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Russia's Lavrov says South Ossetia 'ethnic cleansing' reported

Published: 08.08.08, 16:32 / Israel News

Russia's Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said on Friday that Moscow was receiving reports that villages in Georgia's breakaway region of South Ossetia were being ethnically cleansed.

"We are receiving reports that a policy of ethnic cleansing was being conducted in villages in South Ossetia, the number of refugees is climbing, the panic is growing, people are trying to save their lives," he said during televised remarks in Moscow from Russia's Foreign Ministry. (Reuters)

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3579709,00.html
 

Echo 5

Funniest guy on TB2K
I'm hesitant about believing Russia's claims of ethnic cleansing, for now. They know full well the West will fall for it.
 

SIRR1

Deceased
What will Russia do next? as George and Putin are now talking i would love to be a fly on the wall

My bets that GWB said this,

You can have Georgia and we will take Iran.

tit for tat.

I find it interesting that Russia decided to go into and defend South Ossetia today. 8-8-08.

With it being the opening day of the olymipics and the whole world is focused on China and now fighting breaks out in Georgia.
 

Vis Mega

Senior Member
Interesting..

Georgia just walked in to the stadium about 2 minutes after I watched "Russia Today" say that 1000 civilians in Ossetia had been killed POINT IS, I'm watching the CBC and they touched on the war briefly, saying that its a situation unfolding hour by hour, 100s dead and planes shot down.

Anyways, the CBC covered the situation briefly during the opening ceremony as Georgia walked in.

I find it interesting that Russia has been tied up in this while an armada is on its way to start a blockade against Iran.

With the outcry against Georgia of this happening during the games I'm sure we can rest assured that no strike on Iran will happen until the conclusion of them.

-VMX

PS: I remember old Tom Clancy games like Ghost Recon taking place during this exact scenario, in Tiblisi, Georgia. NATO verses Russia. About 9 years ago or so.
 

mzkitty

I give up.
My bets that GWB said this,

You can have Georgia and we will take Iran.

tit for tat.

I find it interesting that Russia decided to go into and defend South Ossetia today. 8-8-08.

With it being the opening day of the olymipics and the whole world is focused on China and now fighting breaks out in Georgia.



Russia to China: "I'm boss, you're not."


:dvl2:
 

Warthog

Black Out
http://www.reuters.com/articlePrint?articleId=USL768040420080808


Russia sends forces into Georgian rebel conflict
Fri Aug 8, 2008 11:10am EDT
By Margarita Antidze

MEGVREKISI, Georgia (Reuters) - Russia sent forces into Georgia on Friday to repel a Georgian assault on the breakaway South Ossetia region and Georgia's pro-Western president said the two countries were at war.

South Ossetia's rebel leader Eduard Kokoity said there were "hundreds of dead civilians" in the main town Tskhinvali, Russia's Interfax news agency quoted him as saying.

A senior Russian military commander said parts of Russia's 58th army were approaching the rebel capital, where fighting raged between Russian-backed separatists and Georgian forces sent in on Friday to seize it.

A senior Georgian security official said Russian jets had bombed the Vaziani military airbase outside the Georgian capital Tbilisi, and President Mikheil Saakashvili said 150 Russian tanks, armored personnel carriers and other vehicles had entered South Ossetia from neighboring Russia.

"Russia is fighting a war with us in our own territory," Saakashvili told CNN, calling on Washington to help.

He also said Georgian forces had downed two Russian jets. There was no immediate confirmation Russia had sent bombers.

A top Russian military commander said more than 10 Russian peacekeepers in South Ossetia had been killed and nearly 30 wounded, Russian news agencies reported.

The roar of warplanes and the explosions of heavy shells were deafening more than three km (two miles) away from Tskhinvali. Many houses were ablaze.

U.S. President George W. Bush discussed the situation with Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin in Beijing, where world leaders were attending the opening of the Olympic Games, the White House said, giving no further information.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov accused the Georgians of driving people from their homes. "We are receiving reports that a policy of ethnic cleansing was being conducted in villages in South Ossetia, the number of refugees is climbing, the panic is growing, people are trying to save their lives," he said during televised remarks from the ministry.

Marat Kulakhmetov, commander of Russian peacekeepers in the territory, earlier told Interfax by telephone from Tskhinvali: "As a result of many hours of shelling from heavy guns, the town is practically destroyed."

The crisis, the first to confront Russian President Dmitry Medvedev since he took office in May, looked close to spiraling into full-blown war in a region emerging as a key energy transit route, and where Russia and the West are vying for influence.

MOBILISATION

Saakashvili told reporters: "This is a clear intrusion on another country's territory. We have Russian tanks on our territory, jets on our territory in broad daylight." He ordered a full-scale mobilization of military reservists.

The conflict dented sentiment on Russia's benchmark equity index, which fell more than 4 percent to a 14-month low, while the rouble lost over 1 percent against a basket of 0.45 euros and 0.55 dollars.

NATO, the European Union and the United States, a vocal Georgian ally, all urged a halt to the bloodshed.

Andrei Chistyakov, a correspondent for Russia's Vesti-24 television station, said at least 15 civilians had been killed in Tskhinvali, where thousands of people took refuge in cellars.

"These are the people whose bodies were seen in their yards and in the streets," he said by telephone.

Medvedev vowed to defend Russian "compatriots" in South Ossetia, whose separatist administration is supported by Russia, and where most people have been given Russian passports.

"We will not allow their deaths to go unpunished," Interfax quoted him as saying.

Georgia said its operation, launched after a week of clashes between separatists and Georgian troops in which nearly 20 people were killed, was aimed at ending South Ossetia's effective independence, won in a 1991-92 war.

The majority of the roughly 70,000 people living in South Ossetia are ethnically distinct from Georgians. They say they were forcibly absorbed into Georgia under Soviet rule and now want to exercise their right to self-determination.

LEADERS AT OLYMPICS

Putin said Georgia had used heavy armor and artillery and attacked Russian peacekeepers. "This is very sad and this will incur a response," he said in Beijing.

Georgian Interior Ministry spokesman Shota Utiashvili said government forces had also fought mercenaries who had entered South Ossetia from Russia.

Georgian Prime Minister Lado Gurgenidze said the operation would continue until a "durable peace" had been reached.

The Kremlin said Medvedev had summoned his top security advisers to discuss how to restore peace and defend civilians "within the peacekeeping mandate we have".

At an emergency session of the United Nations on Thursday night, Russia failed to push through a statement that would have called on both sides to stop fighting immediately.

Saakashvili, who wants to take his small Caucasus nation into NATO, has made it a priority to win back control of South Ossetia and Abkhazia, another rebel region on the Black Sea.

The issue has bedeviled Georgia's relations with Russia, which is angered by Tbilisi's moves towards the Western fold and its pursuit of NATO membership.
 

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UNHCR following closely situation in South Ossetia Military

Politics 8/8/2008 4:17:00 PM

GENEVA, Aug 8 (KUNA) -- The United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees said Friday that it was closely following the situation in South Ossetia, where thousands of people are reported to be on the move following a week of violent clashes between South Ossetian and Georgian forces.

UNHCR spokesperson Ron Redmond told reporters that authorities say thousands of people have arrived from South Ossetia to North Ossetia-Alania this week.

According to non-official sources, some 400 people have moved from South Ossetia to other parts of Georgia. South Ossetia, a breakaway region of Georgia, has an estimated population of more than 50,000.

This morning, a UNHCR staff member there reported that many buildings and houses have been destroyed and that only military personnel are moving on the streets. Water is also in short supply -- a chronic problem worsened by recent events -- and that most transport has stopped and shops are running out of food.

UNHCR's operations in Georgia focus on six groups totaling more than 275, 000 people. They include internally displaced people linked to the conflicts in South Ossetia and Abkhazia, as well as prima facie refugees, asylum seekers, stateless people and returnees.(end) hn.mb KUNA 081617 Aug 08NNNN

http://www.kuna.net.kw/NewsAgenciesPublicSite/ArticleDetails.aspx?id=1930019&Language=en
 

von Koehler

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[Flavius: some historical background on the region...South Ossetia was a creation of Stalin, carved out of what was Georgian territory. Hence the background for the conflict.]

www.kafkas.org.tr/english/bgkafkas/bukaf/gosetya.html

South Ossetia
Kafkas Vakfi (Caucasus Foundation), n.d.
South Ossetia covers 3.900 square km and in 1989 had 99.000 inhabitants, 66 percent Ossets and 29 percent Georgians. Rural population among Ossets: 34 per cent (1989).

Revolutionary activity had began in South Ossetia as early as 1903. S. Kirov directed Bolshevik activities in the region from 1909, and shortly after the outbreak of the February Revolution a soviet was formed at Vladikavkaz.

The South Ossetia became a part of the Georgian Menshevik Republic with the break up of the Russian empire in 1918, while the North formed a part of the Terek Soviet Republic.

Fierce fighting took place in The North Caucasus during the ensuing civil war (1918-21) and in January , 1919 white forces of General Denikin occupied North Ossetia . In late March, 1920, however, Vladikavkaz fell to the Red Army , and on November 17, 1920 northern Ossetia was included in the newly formed Mountain ASSR as the Ossetian Okrug . On July 7, 1924 Osetia was reorganized as the North Ossetian Autonomous Oblast and on December 5, 1936, as the North Ossetian Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic. The south Ossetian Oblast was organized within the Georgian republic on April 20,1922.

In 1936, North Ossetia was upgraded to Autonomous Republic, which in fact had no meaning during Stalin's dictatorship. The Ossetians were loyal to the Soviet Union during World War II, when the Germans pressed to reach the oil fields of Baku and Grozny. After the war they were rewarded in that their republic was enlarged at the expense of the Chechen-Ingush ASSR and Stavropol krai. The Muslim Digor Ossets, however, were deported to Central Asia.

In 1989, in the freedom of glasnost and Perestroika and frightened by rising Georgian nationalism, the South Ossetians demanded unification with North Ossetia. In December the next year, the Georgian Parliament declared that South Ossetia was no longer autonomous and authorized suppression of newspapers and bans on demonstrations. One issue at stake was the language. Georgian was declared as official language. The Ossetians declared Osetian as the official language of South Ossetia. Fighting commenced in January 1991. During the fighting, South Ossetians were drained of a large part of their population. It is difficult to estimate the number of inhabitants in today's South Ossetia. Most Georgians who lived in the republic left for Georgia proper, and only a few small enclaves in South Ossetia are still inhabited by Georgians

More than 100.000 Ossets fled from Georgia and South Ossetia to North Ossetia. The fighting ended in July 1992 when a cease-fire, at the initiative of Russian President Yeltsin, was agreed and a peacekeeping force of Ossets, Georgians and Russians was set up. The agreement is being observed by the CSCE in Tiflis. But since then little progress has been made. South Ossetia is in a situation of permanent economic crisis and there is a lack of almost everything including jobs, clothes, food heating and electricity. Schools and universities are closed because of lack of heating and books. The situation is worsened by Georgia cutting electricity supplies, which has led to North Ossetia running an electric cable from Russia through the mountain range.

The conflict has resulted in increasing South Ossetia claims for a reunification with North Ossetia and for a stronger affiliation with the North Caucasian ethnic groups and republics. In 1990–91, when the South Ossetia parliament was still dominated by leaders from the Soviet period, the main claim was still to became part of the Russian Federation.

After elections of a new leadership in 1993 and 1994 and because of unsatisfactory support from Moscow the trends have changed towards regional integration. These claims are supported by North Ossetia and by the Confederation of Peoples of the Caucasus. The Confederation, after the success in the Abkhaz war, threatened Georgia with war if she repeats military action against South Ossetia.

Another problem is that The Ossetians are also involved in a conflict with the Ingush, their neighbors to the east.

Editor note: These information is from datebase of The Centre of Russian Studies (Norway) and The North Caucasus: Minorities at a Crossroads (Helen Krag and Larsh Funch). (FT)
 

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Groups in Georgia-S. Ossetia conflict must allow access for relief aid -- ICRC

Population 8/8/2008 5:00:00 PM

GENEVA, Aug 8 (KUNA) -- The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) urged Friday the parties involved in the Georgia and South Ossetia conflict to allow humanitarian organizations unimpeded access to the affected areas and enable medical personnel as well as ambulances to reach the sick and wounded.

The ICRC said that it is in contact with the parties involved in the hostilities and is working to obtain a clearer picture of the humanitarian situation.
"The organization has emergency medical stocks and water supplies to handle urgent needs. The ICRC has been in Georgia since 1992, supporting people who have suffered the consequences of conflict in the region," said the statement. (end) hn.gta KUNA 081700 Aug 08NNNN

http://www.kuna.net.kw/NewsAgenciesPublicSite/ArticleDetails.aspx?id=1930029&Language=en
 

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Britain joins calls for South Ossetia ceasefire

Politics 8/8/2008 5:44:00 PM

LONDON, Aug 8 (KUNA) -- Britain joined international calls on Friday for an immediate ceasefire in South Ossetia after Georgia launched a military offensive to regain control of the breakaway province.

In a statement, the British Foreign Office said that in was "monitoring developments," amid fears of an all-out conflict as Russia, which has close ties with the South Ossetian separatists, sent tanks across the border.
"We urge an immediate ceasefire in the fighting in South Ossetia and for a resumption of direct dialogue between all parties", the statement said.

It echoed calls by NATO and the European Union for a halt to the fighting.

NATO said that it was "closely following the situation" and called for "an immediate end of the armed clashes and direct talks between the parties." France, which currently holds the six-month rotating EU presidency, issued a statement urging all parties to show "the greatest restraint." The Foreign Office added that it was keeping its travel advice under review although as yet it is not advising against all travel to Georgia.(end) he.mb KUNA 081744 Aug 08NNNN

http://www.kuna.net.kw/NewsAgenciesPublicSite/ArticleDetails.aspx?id=1930041&Language=en
 

von Koehler

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SouthOssetia_region_detailed_map.JPG
 

Echo 5

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I think it's been over 12 hours now. I started following the action yesterday evening.
 
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