ALERT RUSSIA INVADES UKRAINE - Consolidated Thread

Josie

Has No Life - Lives on TB
This "war" is becoming nothing but a cash cow everyone seems to be milking any way possible. When I see crap like this I can't even take this war serious, everyone now seems to be using the BLM business strategy to enrich themselves while only the Ukranian civilians suffer.
Exactly so! More and more is poured into this country's coffers. When will it be enough?
Ukraine Government Sets Up Website to Sell Swag and T-Shirts While Accepting Donations and Corporate Sponsorships to Keep World Interested
Get your commemorative Ukraine war t-shirt and mug right here. This is so pathetic that I cannot believe they are even trying it.
NEW: "If this Ukraine funding bill passes, we will be spending 8 times the annual budget of the U.S. Border Patrol on a foreign country", says Congressman Troy Nehls (R-TX)
People need to see, understand and let that sink in. Not enough money for a border wall to protect our southern border and our country from an invasion that is going on till this day, but $40 BILLION might be enough for security of a country we supposedly have no vested interest in. WAKE UP PEOPLE! YOU ARE BEING PLAYED!!!
 

Cacheman

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Congress Poised to Pass $40 Billion in Taxpayer Funds for Ukraine Aid
Kristina Wong

6-7 minutes


Ukrainian Ambassador to the U.S., Oksana Markarova receives applause as Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., speaks and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy looks on via video at the Capitol in Washington, Wednesday, March 16, 2022. (AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite, Pool)
AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite, Poo
6:24


Congress is poised this week to approve $40 billion in American taxpayer funds for the Ukraine war, with little debate and no clear end to the conflict.

On Monday, the Senate voted to advance the bill for a vote this week, with all Democrats and Independents voting to advance the bill. Thirty-seven Republicans also voted to advance the bill, and 11 Republicans opposed it.

Sen. Mike Lee (R-UT) slammed the $40 billion bill, arguing that it could be streamlined to better help Ukraine. He said in a statement:
The House proposal would spend nearly ten times the annual defense budget of Ukraine while delegating broad discretion to the President and bureaucrats regarding where and how most of the money is spent. Much of the money will likely go to nations across the world not involved in the conflict.
In the House, 219 House Democrats voted for the aid — including far-left, anti-war members such as Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (NY) and Barbara Lee (CA). A hundred and forty-nine Republicans voted for the aid, but 57 Republicans voted against it.
The flags of Ukraine, the United States, and the District of Columbia fly together on Pennsylvania Avenue near the Capitol, Saturday, March 5, 2022, by order of the mayor of Washington. (AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite)
The flags of Ukraine, the United States, and the District of Columbia fly together on Pennsylvania Avenue near the Capitol, Saturday, March 5, 2022. (AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite)

Rep. Chip Roy (R-TX), a member of the House Freedom Caucus who voted against it, penned an op-ed calling on Congress to stop rubber-stamping aid for Ukraine.
Given the extraordinary size of President Biden’s most recent request, it is well past time for Congress to stop being a rubber stamp and start exercising proper oversight by demanding answers to some fundamental questions—first and foremost being ‘what is the overarching purpose of this assistance?’ Is it to mitigate the suffering of the Ukrainian people? To destabilize Russia? Or is it to actually achieve victory for Ukraine by expelling the Russians and maintaining the country’s sovereignty?
And Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) also called for more debate on the spending, warning that the U.S. was “sleep-walking” into war with Russia.

A recent Pew Research poll said about half of Americans say they are either extremely (24 percent) or very (26 percent) concerned about the possibility of U.S. and NATO support for Ukraine leading to a U.S. war with Russia.

Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley told members of Congress last month that the war could stretch on for “years.”

The bill — which will be considered by the Senate this week — would authorize about $20 billion for the Department of Defense, and includes:
— $17 billion for U.S. military operations, including the Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative, and to replace U.S. military equipment sent to Ukraine;
— $1.8 billion in U.S. military equipment for Ukraine;
— $414 million for “research, development, test and evaluation” related to the Ukraine war;
— $15 million for U.S. troop pay related to the war; and
— $13.9 million for the Defense Health Program.
An additional roughly $20 billion is for Ukraine bilateral assistance, the State Department, international organizations, and other agencies, and includes:
— $8.77 billion in economic assistance for Ukraine;
— $4.35 billion in humanitarian aid for Ukraine;
— $4 billion for foreign military financing program (run by the State Department);
— $900 million for the Administration for Children and Families for refugee and entrant assistance;
— $500 million for the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development;
— $400 million for international narcotics control and law enforcement to combat human trafficking and collect evidence of war crimes;
— $350 million for the State Department’s Migration and Refugee Assistance;
— $190 million for the State Department for “Diplomatic Programs”;
— $150 million for the Global Agriculture and Food Security Program;
— $110 million for the State Department for embassy security, construction, and maintenance;
— $100 million for the State Department for non-proliferation, anti-terrorism, de-mining and related programs;
— $67 million for the Justice Department;
— $54 million for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to carry out public health and disease detection related to Ukraine;
— $17 million for the United States Agency for International Development (USAID);
— $10 million for the State Department’s “Capital Investment Fund”;
— $4 million for the State Department’s Office of Inspector General;
— $2 million for “salaries and expenses” to provide regulatory and technical support; and
— $1 million for USAID’s Office of Inspector General.
The $40 billion would be in addition to the $13.6 billion in aid that Congress passed in March, for a total of roughly $53 billion over the period of two months — the largest foreign aid package to move through Congress in at least two decades, according to the New York Times.

And that does not count the roughly $4.5 billion the Biden administration approved for Ukraine as of May 6 since it took office in 2021, including about $3.8 billion since the war began on February 24.

Sen. Josh Hawley (R-MO), who also voted against advancing the bill, tweeted Monday evening:
Spending $40 billion on Ukraine aid – more than three times what all of Europe has spent combined – is not in America’s interests. It neglects priorities at home (the border), allows Europe to freeload, short changes critical interests abroad and comes w/ no meaningful oversight

That’s not isolationism. That’s nationalism. It’s about prioritizing American security and American interests


Really think this conflict is about Ukranian freedom?
 

mecoastie

Veteran Member
Wxpelling turkey is a major step towards world war officiality. Not good and i suspect bad for all involved especially ukraine…
I dont believe that there is any means to expel a member from NATO. I think they can say they want out. They arent going to dump turkey. They control access to the Black Sea and in reverse Soviet access to the Med. They will end up cutting some sort of deal. Turkey gets the F-16 upgrades and some other stuff.
 

Walrus

Veteran Member
This "war" is becoming nothing but a cash cow everyone seems to be milking any way possible. When I see crap like this I can't even take this war serious, everyone now seems to be using the BLM business strategy to enrich themselves while only the Ukranian civilians suffer.
Which is, of course, the ultimate great tragedy of this entire fiasco, as the elites continue to enrich themselves.
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
Russia is moving in for the kill in both lugash and donas. Ukie high command drivel only works for so long. Russia will sit back and pound the remaining umie positions with artillery and cruise missiles. Go reread Mongo's description of what the ground impact does to a ukie soldier: the concussions, bleeding, shattered ear drums etc.
The ukies should have pulled out the first 72 hours and set up mobile fesponse groups BETWEEN the river and their eastern positions, but zippy gave tbem his hie stand and fight orders. Now at least Russia might not kill the regular ukie troops, likevthe difference between tbd wehrmacht and the azov as waffen ss troops.
All of the azov troops will be killed off, with a trial for pr purposes but they are doomed.
 

Tex88

Veteran Member
Russia is moving in for the kill in both lugash and donas. Ukie high command drivel only works for so long. Russia will sit back and pound the remaining umie positions with artillery and cruise missiles. Go reread Mongo's description of what the ground impact does to a ukie soldier: the concussions, bleeding, shattered ear drums etc.
The ukies should have pulled out the first 72 hours and set up mobile fesponse groups BETWEEN the river and their eastern positions, but zippy gave tbem his hie stand and fight orders. Now at least Russia might not kill the regular ukie troops, likevthe difference between tbd wehrmacht and the azov as waffen ss troops.
All of the azov troops will be killed off, with a trial for pr purposes but they are doomed.


:dhr:
 

Tex88

Veteran Member
Moldovan President Sandu is demanding the withdrawal of Russian troops from Transnistria
Moldova, Sandu
Moldovan President Maya Sandu from the rostrum of the European Parliament said. that Russian troops must withdraw from occupied Transnistria.
According to Censor.NET , RIA Novosti reported.
"Moldova's president has said from the rostrum of the European Parliament that the Russian military should be withdrawn from Transnistria, as their presence violates Moldova's neutrality," Sandu said.

 

Grumphau

Veteran Member
Russia is moving in for the kill in both lugash and donas. Ukie high command drivel only works for so long. Russia will sit back and pound the remaining umie positions with artillery and cruise missiles. Go reread Mongo's description of what the ground impact does to a ukie soldier: the concussions, bleeding, shattered ear drums etc.
The ukies should have pulled out the first 72 hours and set up mobile fesponse groups BETWEEN the river and their eastern positions, but zippy gave tbem his hie stand and fight orders. Now at least Russia might not kill the regular ukie troops, likevthe difference between tbd wehrmacht and the azov as waffen ss troops.
All of the azov troops will be killed off, with a trial for pr purposes but they are doomed.

Doomer, listen I love ya man but sometimes I get the feeling that you're a GRU agent furiously pounding a keyboard somewhere in St. Petersburg. You know you can't demoralize the Uke army from here right?
 

Tristan

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Congress Poised to Pass $40 Billion in Taxpayer Funds for Ukraine Aid
Kristina Wong

6-7 minutes


Ukrainian Ambassador to the U.S., Oksana Markarova receives applause as Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., speaks and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy looks on via video at the Capitol in Washington, Wednesday, March 16, 2022. (AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite, Pool)
AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite, Poo
6:24


Congress is poised this week to approve $40 billion in American taxpayer funds for the Ukraine war, with little debate and no clear end to the conflict.

On Monday, the Senate voted to advance the bill for a vote this week, with all Democrats and Independents voting to advance the bill. Thirty-seven Republicans also voted to advance the bill, and 11 Republicans opposed it.

Sen. Mike Lee (R-UT) slammed the $40 billion bill, arguing that it could be streamlined to better help Ukraine. He said in a statement:

In the House, 219 House Democrats voted for the aid — including far-left, anti-war members such as Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (NY) and Barbara Lee (CA). A hundred and forty-nine Republicans voted for the aid, but 57 Republicans voted against it.
The flags of Ukraine, the United States, and the District of Columbia fly together on Pennsylvania Avenue near the Capitol, Saturday, March 5, 2022, by order of the mayor of Washington. (AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite)
The flags of Ukraine, the United States, and the District of Columbia fly together on Pennsylvania Avenue near the Capitol, Saturday, March 5, 2022. (AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite)

Rep. Chip Roy (R-TX), a member of the House Freedom Caucus who voted against it, penned an op-ed calling on Congress to stop rubber-stamping aid for Ukraine.

And Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) also called for more debate on the spending, warning that the U.S. was “sleep-walking” into war with Russia.

A recent Pew Research poll said about half of Americans say they are either extremely (24 percent) or very (26 percent) concerned about the possibility of U.S. and NATO support for Ukraine leading to a U.S. war with Russia.

Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley told members of Congress last month that the war could stretch on for “years.”

The bill — which will be considered by the Senate this week — would authorize about $20 billion for the Department of Defense, and includes:

An additional roughly $20 billion is for Ukraine bilateral assistance, the State Department, international organizations, and other agencies, and includes:

The $40 billion would be in addition to the $13.6 billion in aid that Congress passed in March, for a total of roughly $53 billion over the period of two months — the largest foreign aid package to move through Congress in at least two decades, according to the New York Times.

And that does not count the roughly $4.5 billion the Biden administration approved for Ukraine as of May 6 since it took office in 2021, including about $3.8 billion since the war began on February 24.

Sen. Josh Hawley (R-MO), who also voted against advancing the bill, tweeted Monday evening:





Really think this conflict is about Ukranian freedom?



BELLY UP TO THE TROUGH, EVERYBODY! THE GRIFT IS FLOWING FREE AND FULLSOME!
 

Tristan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
This "war" is becoming nothing but a cash cow everyone seems to be milking any way possible. When I see crap like this I can't even take this war serious, everyone now seems to be using the BLM business strategy to enrich themselves while only the Ukranian civilians suffer.


Never, and I mean Never!, let a good crisis go to waste! (it's their motto!)

And if there isn't currently a good crisis to take advantage of, CREATE ONE!
 

Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
I tried to copy the image, but was off the board for nearly 6 months,
and simply forgot many aspects of the board software.

This image really makes me sad, as it would anyone on this board.

The lady lost her husband, and the sons lost their father,
because of the ZUSA, not Russia, ZUSA.

The war between Russia and Ukraine, could have been avoided,
if the neocons, libcons, war mungers, and the military industrial
complex in Washington DC, had stayed out of the internal affairs
of Ukraine.

Russia was paying Ukraine transit fees on their gas lines,
that are in Ukraine, and also paying Ukraine lease fees for
their the home port in Sevastopol, for their Black Sea fleet,
which has been there for more than a hundred years.

A strong and neutral Ukraine, would have been the obvious
best solution, but it was not to be. NATO had to be extended
to the Ukraine border of Russia.

Always in some other nations business. Entire Middle East
has been set on fire, Sandbox and Rock Garden failed wars,
Serbia nearly destroyed, along with Libya.

There is no doubt, that the ZUSA, is the most war mongering
nation that has ever existed. How many military bases does
The Russian Federation have outside their territories,
and how many does the ZUSA have?

Just now, ZUSA troops being sent back into Somalia,
and for what reasons? ZUSA had no damned business,
being in Somalia.

Eventually and hopefully soon, the chickens will come home
to roost in the ZUSA, for the poor people in Ukraine,
and in Russia.

Presidents Washington and Eisenhower, spinning in their graves,
their profound advice, completely ignored by the American people.

May The Most High GOD, have mercy on our souls.

Please be safe everyone. Load and stack mags as best you can.

Regards to all.

Nowski

Well put and difficult to completely refute.

Welcome back!
 

WTSR

Veteran Member

 

Squid

Veteran Member
Talking with a Lockheed Martin engineer this afternoon - after the first widely-publicized failure of the first flight (due to a "software sequencing issue" - this makes two subsequently successful tests since then. Something I didn't know - LM writes more lines of code in a year than Microsoft or Apple.
That is what I told her. It was a software sequencing issue...
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
Gee, sure sounds like a morale and supply based ukie collapse to me. How naive to think writing a letter to zippy while he cavorts around cannes film festival. :kaid:
I was in the us army when Nixon was booted out and I KNOW from personal experience how TOXIC this is to combat readiness. If any of this is true, the ukies final collapse may be done in three days and not weeks.
 

Tex88

Veteran Member
Gee, sure sounds like a morale and supply based ukie collapse to me. How naive to think writing a letter to zippy while he cavorts around cannes film festival. :kaid:
I was in the us army when Nixon was booted out and I KNOW from personal experience how TOXIC this is to combat readiness. If any of this is true, the ukies final collapse may be done in three days and not weeks.

Well I can set your mind at ease then: none of the shit you're parroting is true.
 

jward

passin' thru
I spoke too soon- not COVID, but MonkeyPox. . . please make note this article is from 2002.. .


Science News

June 9, 2002 / 4:45 AM

Monkeypox could be used as bioweapon

By STEVE MITCHELL, UPI Medical Correspondent

The Russians worked with monkeypox virus, a close cousin to smallpox, in their bioweapons program and it is possible terrorists could use it in a biological attack against the United States, scientists and former United Nations weapons inspectors told United Press International.
Although some biological weapons experts are concerned with the possibility of terrorists using another smallpox-related virus called camelpox, which Iraq has admitted to researching, Mark Buller, a biologist at Saint Louis University who conducts research on smallpox vaccines, said he is more concerned about monkeypox.


Buller's concern stems from the fact that monkeypox, unlike camelpox, causes mortality in humans and the incidence of human infection is on the rise in central and western Africa.
In addition, the Russian biowarfare experts are known to have worked with the virus in the Soviet Union's biological weapons program.
The Soviets decided they did not want to work with smallpox by the late 1980's "and there was significant discussion of the possible use of monkeypox as a biological weapon instead of smallpox," Ken Alibek, who was former deputy chief of the Soviet biological weapons program and now resides in the U.S., told UPI.



Monkeypox, which causes symptoms similar to smallpox, can be fatal, but only in the minority of cases, said James LeDuc, director of the division of viral and rickettsial diseases at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta. He said he is "not aware of any cases outside" Africa.
The World Health Organization attributes the increase in monkeypox cases in Africa to the fact that smallpox vaccines, which can protect against monkeypox, are no longer administered.
LeDuc said it is uncertain whether the disease is on the increase, but he noted there appears to have been an outbreak of the disease in Africa about 6 months ago.

The "real fear is that (monkeypox) might be engineered as a bioweapon," said Jonathan Tucker, a former weapons inspector for the United Nations Special Commission who is now with the think tank Monterey Institute in Washington.
Monkeypox is not as contagious as smallpox, but whether it could be or has been modified to be more virulent is unknown. The Soviets were not concerned with contagiousness, Alibek said, because they planned to produce "tons and tons" of the virus -- enough to infect "hundred of thousands of people or even more."

Tucker noted the smallpox vaccine will protect against both monkeypox and camelpox, but Americans do not have access to this vaccine. The CDC, which holds a stockpile of the smallpox vaccine, is currently reconsidering its vaccination strategy and whether to vaccinate everyone or wait until there is an outbreak and try to vaccinate only those exposed.


There are concerns that Russia's smallpox may have been leaked to terrorists, and whether something similar happened with monkeypox is uncertain. Another former U.N. weapons inspector, who requested anonymity, told UPI "There's no confirmation that (monkeypox) leaked out, but the potential exists."
Alibek said he had no idea whether monkeypox had ever been leaked out of the Soviet program. But he noted that from the 1970s until the 1990s, "it was not a problem to get any of the orthopox viruses (smallpox, camelpox and monkeypox)," and many countries had access to them if they wanted them.

Iraq is one of the rogue states that may have obtained access to monkeypox. "We've never ever gotten to the bottom of their involvement with camelpox, whether they were really trying to weaponize it or it was a façade for working with smallpox or monkeypox," said the former U.N. inspector, who was a member of the team that went into Iraq.
There is a lot of suspicion that Iraq had access to smallpox, but "there's no such indirect evidence for monkeypox," the inspector said. Asked if monkeypox was less of a concern than smallpox, the inspector replied, "I wouldn't say it's of less concern ... The fact that we haven't come across evidence from the United Nations doesn't mean it's not there."


No U.N. weapons inspectors have been in Iraq since 1998, so unless the government acknowledges working with a particular biological agent it is difficult to know for certain whether they ever worked with it. No one has any idea what types of agents they have worked with in the past three years, the inspector said.
Iraq is "likely to work with any nasty that comes along" and the government has shown an interest "in all the orthopox viruses," so "it's a strong possibility that they were" working with monkeypox, the inspector said.
The good news is that monkeypox does not appear to be transmissible from person to person and the smallpox vaccine protects against it. Asked whether monkeypox could be modified so that the vaccine is not effective against it, the former weapons inspector said, "I would say that verges on the impossible."

Alibek noted, "There was no such work in getting it resistant to vaccine. I cannot say anything for sure about what they are doing now." Alibek said he left the program more than 10 years ago.
"Making it elusive to the vaccine would be a challenge," CDC's LeDuc said. "The position that we've always held is that it would be very difficult to overcome the vaccine by genetic engineering."


However, Alibek added, "Existent vaccines are not 100 percent effective" against smallpox. They only offer approximately 70 percent protection. "Against monkeypox, the protection could be even lower," he said. "So even if everybody is vaccinated against smallpox, it doesn't mean everybody is protected."






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WTSR

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Ruble continues to appreciate against the dollar, I had read Russia was targeting 50 rubles to one dollar.
 

WTSR

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I wonder how many tractors broke down towing Russian tanks? Part of the Russian plan I guess to destroy Ukrainian Farm equipment they will say.
 

Zagdid

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MILITARY OPERATION IN UKRAINE
18 MAY, 08:05
Russian attack drones, artillery wipe out US-made M777 howitzers in Ukraine — top brass

The ministry also uploaded a video made from a drone showing the destruction of US howitzers

MOSCOW, May 18. /TASS/. Russian attack drones supported by artillery units eliminated a Ukrainian firing position of US-made 155mm M777 howitzers near the settlement of Podgornoye, Russia’s Defense Ministry reported on Wednesday.
"In the area of the settlement of Podgornoye, the Russian teams of unmanned aerial vehicles and artillery reconnaissance systems established the coordinates of a firing position of US-made 155mm M777 howitzers used by the Ukrainian military.

The operators of unmanned aerial vehicles delivered a missile strike on the firing position of the battery of American howitzers, damaging several guns," the ministry said in a statement.

After the missile strikes by the Russian drones, the Ukrainian forces tried to hide in a forest and shelter the towed M777 howitzers there, the ministry said.

"As soon as the Ukrainian militants concentrated prime movers and guns in the forest, they came under an artillery strike. All the equipment and American howitzers were eliminated," the Russian Defense Ministry said.

The ministry also uploaded a video made from a drone showing the destruction of US howitzers.

The M777 is a 155mm field howitzer developed by the British defense firm BAE Systems. It can fire Excalibur guided shells and has an effective firing range of 40 km. The M777 howitzer is operational with the ground forces of the United States, Australia, Canada, India, Saudi Arabia and Ukraine. The howitzer was first employed in combat during the war in Afghanistan.
 

jward

passin' thru
Yup we posted the kerfuffle, and I think even some of Z's speech, somewhere upthread. . . I think.

Patrick Lancaster posted to Telegram that 1700 UKR & AZOV BN combatants have surrendered to RUS forces as of the moment. Kiev is lying when they report them as "evacuated with Kiev's help".
 

jward

passin' thru
Samuel Ramani
@SamRamani2

4h

The Russian Foreign Ministry says Russia will only open Ukraine's Black Sea ports if sanctions on Russia are lifted Devastating food insecurity resulting from the Ukraine war is set to continue



UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres is engaging with Russia, Ukraine, Turkey, the US and EU on food insecurity The aim is to allow Ukraine to export grain and encourage Russia to export fertilizer


Samuel Ramani
@SamRamani2
4h

World Food Program Executive Director David Beasley's message to Russia: "If you have any heart at all for the rest of the world, regardless of how you feel about Ukraine, you need to open up those ports"
 

Josie

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Am I the only one feeling a little discomfort with all the sales and gifting of our military equipment and technology? Do we have better and more sophisticated in the pipes and we're selling/gifting our old stuff? Do we have any assurances that there is enough here in CONUS to defend us and the presents won't be used against us in the future? JMHO...this administration and their minions in Congress would sell their mother to the highest bidder to increase their personal wealth.
 
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