bracketquant
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If the SHTF, got candles, and knowledge about using them safely?
FOOD Report food & grocery shortages / price increases here: 2022 Edition
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psychgirl
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I found some excellent beef roast sales at Kroger today! Their seafood prices seem to be coming down too.
What worries me though?
The talk not long ago, that beef will come down due to ranchers and grocery stores getting rid of the excess products.
After that, it’s Katy bar the door this fall when the beef shortage really hits us hard.
I think*** this is happening.
What worries me though?
The talk not long ago, that beef will come down due to ranchers and grocery stores getting rid of the excess products.
After that, it’s Katy bar the door this fall when the beef shortage really hits us hard.
I think*** this is happening.
bracketquant
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Onions can be deceiving by their looks alone. I do a squeeze test on one or two if they are bagged, on all if I buy them one at a time. Any softness, and I pass.
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ainitfunny
Saved, to glorify God.
IF you think you only will need 2 candles a day (which is ridiculously few) but say 2 a day, if you only prep for the first SIX MONTHS of a grid down situation, you need 360 candles! Do you have 360 candles or anything NEAR THAT?
BTW- THE LONG BURNING CANDLES DONT WORK FOR GIVING OFF LIGHT!
Try it out. They have thin tiny wicks that burn with a tiniest flame that is useless for light.
Dinner candles can give off enough light to at least see enough to work in the kitchen on winter nights.
You can modify pillar candles with BIGGER WICKS to give more light. you have to take something metal, heat it up and melt a hole through the candle to put in a heavier wick for more light.
you can buy heavier candle wicking on ebay or amazon. OR, google candle supplies on your search engine
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SouthernBreeze
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Yeah, I probably do. I'm a nut over candles. Love them!
phloydius
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I like to use the "7 Day" candles (tall glass container) for my emergency candles. They offer some protection from fire and burn for a really long time for the price. They can be found for $1+ at some dollar stores. These are often the candles that are used by Catholics, but there are many others out there that use them as well.
SouthernBreeze
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I have several of those, too. I love to use candles as decorations in my home. Something about candles that give a home a nice rustic/country living touch. I buy them as I find them on sale, and have lots stored away for SHTF purposes, along with other means of lighting without electricity.
Ragnarok
On and On, South of Heaven
That's what they thought during the Great Depression, too.
Worked great until there was nothing left to hunt and fish...
phloydius
Veteran Member
Do you ONLY have 360 candles?
My favorite time to buy candles in the past has been (mostly votives) after Christmas on New Years Day. Back in 2000-ish I picked up probably close to a 1000 of them for a penny to $0.02 each on clearance. I hit every Walmart in range to grab as many as I could. I don't think I've seen them for under $0.25/each on clearance in recent years past now, which was the normal price I was paying at Dollar Tree until earlier this year. Although I have many other styles/types, the votives are the ones we use most often.
ainitfunny
Saved, to glorify God.
They are seven day candles only because they are USELESS AND give off no useful LIGHT.
Turn off all the lights and see if you can cook supper by your seven day candle!
The only precaution would be if you have cats or two year olds.. There is no big safety hazard otherwise, if you have common sense.
Turn off all the lights and see if you can cook supper by your seven day candle!
The only precaution would be if you have cats or two year olds.. There is no big safety hazard otherwise, if you have common sense.
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nomifyle
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Exactly. Apparently the rising prices have not made them think about reality.
Yep. The wicks are really tiny on those things, and they tend to burn themselves down into a hole in the wax....hiding what little light they do give off.
SouthernBreeze
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You sound like me, LOL! I never pass up an opportunity to buy candles on sale when I see them. I buy boxes of the tapered candles which serve our purpose better, but I have a lot of votive candles, too. Jar candles are my favorite, though. I absolutely love the Yankee Candles. They smell so good.
ainitfunny
Saved, to glorify God.
They are seven day because they are useless and give off no useful LIGHT. The only thing you can see by that candle IS THE CANDLE.
Turn off all the lights and see if you can cook supper by your seven day candle!
You are discussing spurious things about candles NOT IMPORTANT TJE MOOD THEY SET, THEIR SMELL, HOW LONG THEY LAST, HOW SAFE THEY ARE, Its HOW MUCH LIGHT THEY PUT OUT that could be completely immobilizing you after 4pm in the winter!
YOU MUST BUY A FAT ROLL OF HEAVIER WICKING FOR MORE LIGHT WHEN YOU WILL NEED IT.
YOU CAN REMELT THE VOTIVE AND INSTALL THICKER WICKS AND REPLACE THE WICKS IN PILLAR CANDLES TO GIVE MORE LIGHT
Nothing else is worthy of discussion.
most of yoUr candles are usless for giving you LIGHT, AND LIGHT IS ALL THAT COUNTS!
The AMOUNT of light (or heat) put off by a candle is determined by the WICK DIAMETER OR SIZE! Not the candle size.
A tiny TEA LIGHT gave me enough HEAT to warm up a whole can of chili to burn your mouth hot, AND STILL had enough wax to heat 12 oz of water to almost boiling for my tea. WHEN I REPLACED THE TINY TEA LIGHT WICK WITH A ROLLED UP 1/4 Kleenex for a thicker wick!
In fact, buy your sardines in oil, and you can roll up 1/4 of a kleenex for a thick wick and lay it in the leftover oil in the sardine can with the top of it laying on the side of the can, and cook for a half to an hour over the flame!
Turn off all the lights and see if you can cook supper by your seven day candle!
You are discussing spurious things about candles NOT IMPORTANT TJE MOOD THEY SET, THEIR SMELL, HOW LONG THEY LAST, HOW SAFE THEY ARE, Its HOW MUCH LIGHT THEY PUT OUT that could be completely immobilizing you after 4pm in the winter!
YOU MUST BUY A FAT ROLL OF HEAVIER WICKING FOR MORE LIGHT WHEN YOU WILL NEED IT.
YOU CAN REMELT THE VOTIVE AND INSTALL THICKER WICKS AND REPLACE THE WICKS IN PILLAR CANDLES TO GIVE MORE LIGHT
Nothing else is worthy of discussion.
most of yoUr candles are usless for giving you LIGHT, AND LIGHT IS ALL THAT COUNTS!
The AMOUNT of light (or heat) put off by a candle is determined by the WICK DIAMETER OR SIZE! Not the candle size.
A tiny TEA LIGHT gave me enough HEAT to warm up a whole can of chili to burn your mouth hot, AND STILL had enough wax to heat 12 oz of water to almost boiling for my tea. WHEN I REPLACED THE TINY TEA LIGHT WICK WITH A ROLLED UP 1/4 Kleenex for a thicker wick!
In fact, buy your sardines in oil, and you can roll up 1/4 of a kleenex for a thick wick and lay it in the leftover oil in the sardine can with the top of it laying on the side of the can, and cook for a half to an hour over the flame!
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phloydius
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Having used them thru several power outages because of hurricanes, and during the big Texas ice storm last Feb where we had no power for many days (and we do not have natural gas here) -- I completely disagree about them being useless. Each type of candle has different uses, strengths, & weaknesses. Also don't expect one candle to light up a whole room as bright as several 100w light bulbs.
Instead of turning off all the lights to try to cook supper by candle-light, I suggest turning off the main electrical breaker box to the house, and try to cook supper by candle-light. Having done that several times (by act of god, not by intention), it is very enlightening.
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ainitfunny
Saved, to glorify God.
well, in the times ahead all you need is light, and the bigger the wick, the more light you get and the faster the candle burns up. If you are sitting around just talking a seven day candle may be OK.
But you would be happier with a dinner candle if you are trying to play cards
bracketquant
Veteran Member
I know some very small, way out of the way, places to fish, located a few miles of a walk over extremely rough terrain. It's first going over a few miles of rough trails just to reach the extremely rough stuff that has no trail. An off-road motorcycle "might" be able to make it there, but no other vehicle would stand a chance. No sane fisherman would currently go there. However, desperate hunters would likely go to those places, and unexpectedly find the fishing spots. And, one of those places would likely be my last ditch effort in collecting drinking water, as it has a natural spring. I mostly try not to think about SHTF possibilities.
20Gauge
TB Fanatic
As a side not: the shopping behavior, ( buying 2 when 1 is needed or clearing a shelf ) you write about is a sign that we are in a longer term supply shortage.
SouthernBreeze
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Exactly. Plus, we're talking about candles and their uses, not using one tiny candle to light the whole room in a power outage. Get real, folks.
bracketquant
Veteran Member
It's a good thing that you are nowhere near S. Deerfield, MA (Yankee Candle Village). I think it's just the showroom/retail space that is 90,000 square feet, not counting the manufacturing facility. One can smell the thousands of scents from a long, long distance.
ainitfunny
Saved, to glorify God.
I am glad you mentioned that, about handketchiefs replacing kleenex. I need to buy a couple of packs of handkerchiefs so I have something if kleenex is not available or becomes too expensive!
bracketquant
Veteran Member
Thought of the day...
Would a diaper shortage qualify as a SHTF event?
Would a diaper shortage qualify as a SHTF event?
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
Went out to lunch with my best friend to a local Sushi and Hibachi house, they've actually lowered their prices! I was shocked. Portions are about the same size as previously. I guess two new japanese sushi houses opening up here in town has forced them to rethink their pricing.
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I've always urged new mothers to have cloth diapers available for emergencies. Most, of course, do not listen. I can't imagine the amount of money wasted and the amount of waste generated due to disposable diapers. The environmentalist got rid of plastic straws and grocery bags which I'm sure do not generate even close to the to the environmental disaster as disposable diapers do. With cloth diapers the contents are flushed into the proper sewage system instead of being buried in landfills. What do disposable diapers cost these days? At minimum I'd guess $40 to $50 a month, and they're used for 3 years followed by pullups. Can you imagine not being able to afford food for your family and spending $50+ a month on throw away diapers, wipes, paper towels, tissues etc.?
bracketquant
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All I have to do is walk the long disposable diaper aisle at WalMart, and I can easily imagine it. I've never seen cloth diapers at WalMart. Do they have any? It depends...
... on if there is any demand for them.
school marm
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Northeastern Nevada reporting in. The entire grocery store was well stocked and the produce didn’t look too bad. I got two 5-lb bags of fair-sized russet potatoes for $3 each. Large baking russets were $1/pound. I shop Thursdays around noon because that’s when the most markdowns hit the clearance shelves here, and today there was a boatload of items. The lady who normally handles the markdowns said there were six carts full. I got 15 lbs of discounted organic ground beef and several gallons of discounted milk. (This store has a policy of selling milk that will still be good for at least ten days. When it’s less than 10 days to the sell-by date, they mark it down. All my milk today (August 25) was dated September 1, six days away, so by store policy it should have been marked down a few days ago. And I had to wait for the guy to finish putting the markdown stickers on, so it wasn’t like the milk had been marked down earlier.
The sale item that I really wanted to get was the bone-in chicken thighs, advertised at 99 cents/pound. The meat display held dozens of packages of boneless skinless thighs for $2.99, but none of the bone-in, so I asked the gentleman working that department to get some for me. He seemed annoyed. He didn’t ask how much I wanted, just went back to get it. I thought he would bring out several packages to stock the counter, but he didn’t. Just one package for me. Is it in short supply? Or are they trying to ration it without saying that’s what they’re doing?
Also, there were a few people in at least two different aisles with dozens of shelf stickers. I guess prices are going up even more.
And finally, we have people drive out here from the Utah farms to sell their produce, about a 4-hour drive. I stopped at a peach stand today. The fruit looked beautiful and smelled good, too. A canning box that I would have paid $25 for last year—this guy was asking $75. I just couldn’t do it. I understand the cost of gas and travel time, fertilizer, and other inputs, but that was just too high.
The sale item that I really wanted to get was the bone-in chicken thighs, advertised at 99 cents/pound. The meat display held dozens of packages of boneless skinless thighs for $2.99, but none of the bone-in, so I asked the gentleman working that department to get some for me. He seemed annoyed. He didn’t ask how much I wanted, just went back to get it. I thought he would bring out several packages to stock the counter, but he didn’t. Just one package for me. Is it in short supply? Or are they trying to ration it without saying that’s what they’re doing?
Also, there were a few people in at least two different aisles with dozens of shelf stickers. I guess prices are going up even more.
And finally, we have people drive out here from the Utah farms to sell their produce, about a 4-hour drive. I stopped at a peach stand today. The fruit looked beautiful and smelled good, too. A canning box that I would have paid $25 for last year—this guy was asking $75. I just couldn’t do it. I understand the cost of gas and travel time, fertilizer, and other inputs, but that was just too high.
I had all 4 of my kids in cloth diapers,. my youngest was born in 2002. And Walmart was the only place that I could find them!
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
That's a steal here price wise! The peach, well all of the fruit crops, were severely affected by two late freezes and then the drought. Around here if you can find orchard fresh produce buy it, cause it won't be there long and there's very little to be had. - Central Iowa.
briches
Veteran Member
We have this is common! I love yankee candles. A couple years ago I tried BBW and love those as well. As times have gotten tighter, I haven’t gotten anymore candles but still have many stashed away. Have you found any off brands you enjoy that have a good scent throw?
parsonswife
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Wow just saw 5 dozen largeeggs at Albertsons for 8.29 Lucerne brand. So Oregon last week paid 12.50 at discount store
Barry Natchitoches
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Chicken Mama
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I was replacingHVAC filters monthly because they were black. Our filters are about $25/ea, and the service guy told me the filters would last at least 3-4 months if I quit burning candles. I didn't believe him, especially because I only lit a candle about once/week.
He was right though. It's amazing how much soot they put out. The walls/window sills are cleaner too since I stopped burning candles.
He was right though. It's amazing how much soot they put out. The walls/window sills are cleaner too since I stopped burning candles.
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I stopped at a Dollar General in the North Ga. mountains area and there were lots of empty spaces and coolers.. I was very surprised...Also a heads up.. I won't buy meat in Walmart anymore...most of it is coming thru leaking and sticky...I don't know what they are doing....I have worked there 17 years and this is the first time I have seen this...Customer service has told me lots of it is being returned...I don't know why customers buy it...Yuck!!
bracketquant
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I'd hazard a guess that employees may be holding back, and buying the bulk of the .99/lb chicken, which at that price is now extremely scarce. And, I don't blame them at all, if they are.
Cook supper and breakfast when it's light outside....do chores in the daylight, too unless you have to leave early for work or something. Even up here on the great northern tundra in the dead of winter, by 8:00 am it's daylight and still "can see" at 4:30-5:00 or so in the evening.
Babs
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I've stocked up on some nice solar lights. Relatively inexpensive and I can mount the little solar panel outside and the light inside.
closet squirrel
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Aldi sells 3 wick jar candles that are the same size as BBW. They come out with new scents every season. Some are stronger than others but the good ones are just as good as BBW. They are 4.99 I think. I just opened my fall decoration tote the other day and I have about 8 of them in there and the whole tote smells amazing even with the lids on the candles.
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