ALERT Rail Strike On December 9th?

[Doomer Doug]

Just a heads up for people who haven't been in the BOMB SHELTER recently. You should read the thread about the rail strike which has now had 3 rail unions voting for a strike. The impact could begin as early as December 1st, a mere 10 days from now. Anything you need I suggest you buy first, and buy fast. The fuel shortage is also coming to a head.

Again: HEADS UP FOR POSSIBLE RAIL STRIKE.

 

[rhughe13]

I got a confirmation from my source that this is also going to happen.

 

[packyderms_wife]

It's been in the news here in central Iowa, since there's a major line that runs parallel to Hwy 30, and it's pretty much a given that they are going to strike.

 

[Wildweasel]

I got a confirmation from my source that this is also going to happen.

The bigger question is "How long will any rail strike last? Congress let the last one run a day or two before issuing a forced agreement. I don't foresee a longer one, unless the rank & file decide to "go Galt" and walk away from it all over Congress forcing an agreement on them that gives management everything and the workers nothing.

 

[rhughe13]

The bigger question is "How long will any rail strike last? Congress let the last one run a day or two before issuing a forced agreement. I don't foresee a longer one, unless the rank & file decide to "go Galt" and walk away from it all over Congress forcing an agreement on them that give management everything and the workers nothing.

I am told that a walk out could result in them going to prison. Now they can probably quit their jobs or just get a new job to avoid that. I don’t know what they have sworn to on employment, but I’ll try and find out during turkey meal on Thursday.

 

[packyderms_wife]

I am told that a walk out could result in them going to prison. Now they can probably quit their jobs or just get a new job to avoid that. I don’t know what they have sworn to on employment, but I’ll try and find out during turkey meal on Thursday.

It probably falls under the same rules that Reagan had put into place during the air traffic controller strike, those rules also included mass transit, etc.

 

[Countrymouse]

Thank you so much for posting this!

And I don't see how the govt can "order" them back to work or put them in prison for not doing so--UNLESS they NATIONALIZE the railroads.

The Air Traffic Controllers were FEDERAL employees. Therefore the President (Reagan) could fire them.

RR workers are PRIVATELY employed by PRIVATE independent rail companies---they cannot be prosecuted for quitting, striking, a slowdown, etc.--again, UNLESS they nationalize the railroads and turn them all into federal employers.

 

[packyderms_wife]

Thank you so much for posting this!

And I don't see how the govt can "order" them back to work or put them in prison for not doing so--UNLESS they NATIONALIZE the railroads.

The Air Traffic Controllers were FEDERAL employees. Therefore the President (Reagan) could fire them.

RR workers are PRIVATELY employed by PRIVATE independent rail companies---they cannot be prosecuted for quitting, striking, a slowdown, etc.--again, UNLESS they nationalize the railroads and turn them all into federal employers.

Hubs works mass transit, which is controlled by the city here, and if they go on strike they can be put into jail, just like the air traffic controllers. It has less to do with them being federal employees and more to do with being essential workers, is part of what was in that act they passed during Reagans reign.

 

[bw]

I don't foresee a longer one, unless the rank & file decide to "go Galt" and walk away from it all over Congress forcing an agreement on them that gives management everything and the workers nothing.

That's a significant danger. The unions appear to be majorly ticked off. They know their needs were played for political advantage before the election, and that's not making them any happier.

 

[bw]

I am told that a walk out could result in them going to prison.

Happens to peaceful protestors too. Comes a point ...

 

[Warthog]

Let them walk! I'm tired of hearing their threats!

 

[China Connection]

Russia will be smiling.............

Watch the Petrodollar!

 

[bw]

Even if the strike lasts only a day, there's the shut-down lead time and restart delays. It could be a bit of a hiccup anyway.

 

[Countrymouse]

Let them walk! I'm tired of hearing their threats!

They have GOOD REASON to walk. Surely you know?

 

[Optimus Prime]

Never let a good crisis go to waste. Biden will let it go a week, create the panic. Solution, nationalize the railroad. Diesel runs low, trucks stop, second crisis/panic. Solution, nationalize trucking. Inflationary pressures from above collapse the economy, crisis/panic. Solution, CBDC.

We really are just bovine in their pasture.

 

[Kris Gandillon]

Hubs works mass transit, which is controlled by the city here, and if they go on strike they can be put into jail, just like the air traffic controllers. It has less to do with them being federal employees and more to do with being essential workers, is part of what was in that act they passed during Reagans reign.

The law is the Taft-Hartley Act of 1947.

Taft–Hartley Act - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

The Act authorizes the President to intervene in strikes or potential strikes that create a national emergency.

The Act also prohibited federal employees from striking.

Reagan simply invoked it via an Executive Order associated with the PATCO strike. He ordered them back to work and those who did not would be (and were) fired…about 11,500 of them.

Air traffic volume was still impacted for months however.

Biden could easily do the same in regards to a railroad strike but I think the numbers are much larger, the potential replacements much fewer (if they all quit or are fired) assuming they don’t return to work. So likely would be a problem for months if they did not return to work.

 

[Matt]

Ties in well with the FedEx and Amazon layoffs

 

[TammyinWI]

Never let a good crisis go to waste. Biden will let it go a week, create the panic. Solution, nationalize the railroad. Diesel runs low, trucks stop, second crisis/panic. Solution, nationalize trucking. Inflationary pressures from above collapse the economy, crisis/panic. Solution, CBDC.

We really are just bovine in their pasture.

OH! You got it figured out, I betcha dollars to donuts. That is one reason that Buffett bought a big chunk of the RR years ago.

Martial law. Train cars. Panic. Lack. Not in that order. Fences around FEMA camps...barbed wire on top, facing in. I have been waiting for this inevitability for about two decades...

Just a few relevant phrases all here. It is all coming sooner or later, oh oh, we are close?

A flight in the winter? Praying not...but I want to give a post of the day award to Optimus Prime:

 

[packyderms_wife]

The law is the Taft-Hartley Act of 1947.

Taft–Hartley Act - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

The Act authorizes the President to intervene in strikes or potential strikes that create a national emergency.

The Act also prohibited federal employees from striking.

Reagan simply invoked it via an Executive Order associated with the PATCO strike. He ordered them back to work and those who did not would be (and were) fired…about 11,500 of them.

Air traffic volume was still impacted for months however.

Biden could easily do the same in regards to a railroad strike but I think the numbers are much larger, the potential replacements much fewer (if they all quit or are fired) assuming they don’t return to work. So likely would be a problem for months if they did not return to work.

Thank you!

 

[emiliozapata]

Here to predict NO RAIL S TRIKE will take place

 

[Matt]

Here to predict NO RAIL S TRIKE will take place

Wild ass guess, normalcy bias, or do you have some inside Intel that contradicts what others here are hearing from railroaders?

 

[desertvet2]

Here to predict NO RAIL S TRIKE will take place

...buzzkill...

 

[medic38572]

...buzzkill...

BZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

 

[Dobbin]

Truckers are not real happy with NWO/Leftists. One imagines truckers "spit" when they hear the name of Trudeau invoked. While the "blockade" around Washington DC never really happened (too much "dialogue" prior to a possible event IMHO) the possibility I'm sure dwells in the minds and fears of the Washington Elite.

Truckers would not be the first "Union" (a lot of truckers are "independent" - but united) to strike in support of another.

And wouldn't that get Washington's attention?

Sort of like "flight cancellations" supposedly due to "delays" or "bad weather" - but in reality, due to pilot shortage/vaccine mandate.

Dobbin

 

[energy_wave]

Thank you so much for posting this!

And I don't see how the govt can "order" them back to work or put them in prison for not doing so--UNLESS they NATIONALIZE the railroads.

The Air Traffic Controllers were FEDERAL employees. Therefore the President (Reagan) could fire them.

RR workers are PRIVATELY employed by PRIVATE independent rail companies---they cannot be prosecuted for quitting, striking, a slowdown, etc.--again, UNLESS they nationalize the railroads and turn them all into federal employers.

Don't f#ck with the rail roads. No matter who Biden employs to drive the locomotives, the track conditions won't allow it.

 

[LibertyInNH]

Wild ass guess, normalcy bias, or do you have some inside Intel that contradicts what others here are hearing from railroaders?

I'm with Emilio.

Anything that happens will be controlled demolition for optics. No real shutdown. Sure, some Christmas presents, imported vegetables, and fuel depots in certain cities will have hiccups.

But no one is going to let government facilities, nuclear reactors, or water and sewer treatment facilities go without diesel fuel or chemicals.

 

[Samuel Adams]

Anything that happens will be controlled demolition for optics. No real shutdown.

Story of our lives.


They will play the masses forever.



The individuals ?

As long as each will let them.

 

[Optimus Prime]

I'm with Emilio.

Anything that happens will be controlled demolition for optics. No real shutdown. Sure, some Christmas presents, imported vegetables, and fuel depots in certain cities will have hiccups.

But no one is going to let government facilities, nuclear reactors, or water and sewer treatment facilities go without diesel fuel or chemicals.

You underestimate the depravity of your enemy. They are a reprobate body incapable of good.

 

[Samuel Adams]

They are a reprobate body incapable of good.

Hence the eternal stringing along of the masses, by the nose, to a mealy-mouthed oblivion.


Real chaos would lead to legitimate loss of CONTROL.


Not happening.

 

[LibertyInNH]

Hence the eternal stringing along of the masses, by the nose, to a mealy-mouthed oblivion.


Real chaos would lead to legitimate loss of CONTROL.


Not happening.

Exactly. For those of us who know the beginning from the end, real chaos of the manmade kind will not be the end, for two reasons.

The Deceiver needs his people to demonstrate as much control and benevolence as possible, up to the bitter end. Worldwide nuclear meltdowns and collapse of basic utilities does not fit that timeline.

Secondly, the "real chaos" will be unequivocally understood as divine judgement, when that time comes.

 

[Samuel Adams]

Secondly, the "real chaos" will be unequivocally understood as divine judgement, when that time comes.

That’s the only legitimate chaos that I can envision, though, contrary to a lot of “popular” thinking….I see that time as the new beginning, here on earth, and not the end.

“World” from the Greek, does not refer to the planet.

 

[FMJ]

Don't f#ck with the rail roads. No matter who Biden employs to drive the locomotives, the track conditions won't allow it.

Its not like a train can just back up and go around a failed trunk line or an intentionally sabotaged engine in anything like a realistic timeframe. I’m sure certain people would know when, where and how to deploy such tactics to generate maximum mayhem. Their jobs were to prevent same.

 

[Matt]

Hence the eternal stringing along of the masses, by the nose, to a mealy-mouthed oblivion.


Real chaos would lead to legitimate loss of CONTROL.


Not happening.

I believe your premis is flawed... they are literally killing people's children with lethal injections.... and the fools continue to kneel beside the ditch. The evil ones will absolutely starve and freeze people... look at Ukraine and Germany...


"Deaths among European Children aged 0-14 have increased by 552% since the EMA approved the COVID Vaccine for Kids"

Deaths among European Children aged 0-14 have increased by 552% since the EMA approved the COVID Vaccine for Kids

On the 28th of May 2021, the European Medicines Agency extended the emergency use authorisation of the Pfizer Covid-19 mRNA injection to children aged 12 to 15. Six months later they extended the e…

expose-news.com

 

[Samuel Adams]

I believe your premis is flawed... they are literally killing people's children with lethal injections.... and the fools continue to kneel beside the ditch. The evil ones will absolutely starve and freeze people... look at Ukraine and Germany...


"Deaths among European Children aged 0-14 have increased by 552% since the EMA approved the COVID Vaccine for Kids"

Deaths among European Children aged 0-14 have increased by 552% since the EMA approved the COVID Vaccine for Kids

On the 28th of May 2021, the European Medicines Agency extended the emergency use authorisation of the Pfizer Covid-19 mRNA injection to children aged 12 to 15. Six months later they extended the e…

expose-news.com

I see your point.


It’s “happening”……

……but the masses are still quite content with that treatment from their established, if not wholly legitimate overlords, yes ?

The manipulators know when to push, and when to ease ever so slightly.

It’s perfect.

It’s draconian.

It’s unstoppable at the macro level.

 

[CaryC]

I'm with Emilio.

Anything that happens will be controlled demolition for optics. No real shutdown. Sure, some Christmas presents, imported vegetables, and fuel depots in certain cities will have hiccups.

But no one is going to let government facilities, nuclear reactors, or water and sewer treatment facilities go without diesel fuel or chemicals.

Might want to throw in there COAL. There still are coal fired power plants and they go through RR cars full of coal everyday. So imagine if you get your electricity from a plant that uses coal.

If you even think that the RR may strike and you get your power from a coal fired plant, you might want to take some preps for light and heat, and cooking.

But as was said, that is an essential (in my book) part of society, so the RR strike may be forced to continue by Biden.

But then again it would go a long way in transitioning over to wind/solar if they did. As with high gas prices.

 

[SouthernBreeze]

Might want to throw in there COAL. There still are coal fired power plants and they go through RR cars full of coal everyday. So imagine if you get your electricity from a plant that uses coal.

If you even think that the RR may strike and you get your power from a coal fired plant, you might want to take some preps for light and heat, and cooking.

But as was said, that is an essential (in my book) part of society, so the RR strike may be forced to continue by Biden.

But then again it would go a long way in transitioning over to wind/solar if they did. As with high gas prices.

How much coal does a power plant consume in a day?
To better comprehend the amount of coal that a power plant consumes, consider that the largest coal-fired plants in the country receive 1 or 2 unit trains of coal each day. Each train has approximately 115 cars, and each car carries an average of 116 tons of coal.

 

[Raggedyman]

REAL chaos would lead to legitimate loss of CONTROL.

AND If it were. To be REAL (meaning of/at a significant/debilitating level) I believe you might also want to add the words VIRTUALLY INSTANTANEOUS to your statements . . .

 

[Meemur]

If you still have shopping to do for Thanksgiving, Christmas (etc), birthdays/weddings -- I would make sure that as much as possible is on hand.

Consider mailing Christmas cards (if you have cards that go USPS) on Thanksgiving.

Maybe replace some of the fresh foods on the holiday menu with canned or frozen so that you don't have to try to buy it at the last minute.

For example, my Christmas dinner will probably be ham, mashed potatoes, homemade gravy, squash, and Jell-O with marshmallows (or something similar). All of that, plus a bottle of local wine is already in my kitchen. If things haven't fallen apart, I'll add a garden salad to that.

 

[WildDaisy]

They have GOOD REASON to walk. Surely you know?

I believe they've been trying to work it out for months, but employers arent budging. One of their complaints are work schedules. With the freight back up, most of them have been working with no days off and on call 24/7 for more than two years.

 

[night driver]

I believe they've been trying to work it out for months, but employers arent budging. One of their complaints are work schedules. With the freight back up, most of them have been working with no days off and on call 24/7 for more than two years.

Which in the vernacular translates to "STRIKE!! RF'n NAOW!!!"