EBOLA Duncan died at 7:51 this morning per wfaa tv
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the watcher
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It's not the fact he died, it's the people he exposed on his way to the grave.
Possible Impact
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I'm sorry, I simply don't believe that she wrote that.... or said that. That is a Western way of speaking. She is Liberian. Even if she has been here a decade, it wouldn't change the foundational communication that she had used her entire life.
Same ting I tought as well.
She didn't talk "Western" Upper Middle class
Press Release Homogenized PC Group-think Drivel.
Hansa44
Justine Case
According to Kris, it's been 24? days since he came down with this. Has anyone heard anything about others getting sick?
ainitfunny
Saved, to glorify God.
I agree, someone composed that for her.
They still have a few other that contracted this as a result of him and not much word about their condition.
Right now that hospital has a major clean up on their hands and yes I can see them cremating the body ASAP on the double along with all the bed sheets and pillow stuffed into the body bag with him.
Right now that hospital has a major clean up on their hands and yes I can see them cremating the body ASAP on the double along with all the bed sheets and pillow stuffed into the body bag with him.
Bardou
Veteran Member
Well another accomplishment for the negro race. Duncan is the first negro to die of Ebola in this country. Not a good way to be remembered especially when he exposed hundreds of people to the disease. We won't be prosecuting him with a long drawn out legal battle and lining the pockets of lawyers. It's a win-win for everyone.
ainitfunny
Saved, to glorify God.
One thing I wanted to comment upon......
IF SHE IS A BIBLE BELIEVING CHRISTIAN....she would NOT sue that hospital.
I PERSONALLY know a Christian man who (in 1982) committed to me privately that because of that Scripture, he would NOT SUE the Catholic hospital that had outrageously negligently caused the horrible medical nightmare his wife went through. She survived, but went from truly brilliant (Valedictorian at Brown Univ.)to barely functional, retarded. We sat down with them to ask for help covering the damages, therapy, etc and He walked away with $650 thou., no lawyer, no lawsuit.
IF SHE IS A BIBLE BELIEVING CHRISTIAN....she would NOT sue that hospital.
I PERSONALLY know a Christian man who (in 1982) committed to me privately that because of that Scripture, he would NOT SUE the Catholic hospital that had outrageously negligently caused the horrible medical nightmare his wife went through. She survived, but went from truly brilliant (Valedictorian at Brown Univ.)to barely functional, retarded. We sat down with them to ask for help covering the damages, therapy, etc and He walked away with $650 thou., no lawyer, no lawsuit.
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Jesse Jackson is involved, there will be lawsuits...
No offense met at all, but I've worked with people from Western Africa, and quite often, their use of the English language could put many Americans to shame. Just because they use a dialect informally doesn't mean that they can't speak or write proper English.
Having said that though, I also wonder if she wrote it, but for different reasons.
Lilbitsnana
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I'll add this to this thread too.
NBC DFW @NBCDFW · 4m 4 minutes ago
#BREAKING Frisco patient claims to have had contact with Thomas Eric Duncan
NBC DFW @NBCDFW · 6m 6 minutes ago
#BREAKING Frisco will hold a 3:30 p.m. news conference today in regards to a person showing possible signs of #Ebola.
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NBC DFW @NBCDFW · 4m 4 minutes ago
#BREAKING Frisco patient claims to have had contact with Thomas Eric Duncan
NBC DFW @NBCDFW · 6m 6 minutes ago
#BREAKING Frisco will hold a 3:30 p.m. news conference today in regards to a person showing possible signs of #Ebola.
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[FONT=Verdana,Arial] Frisco=Frisco, TX
Kris started a new thread for FRISCO
Frisco Possible Ebola Patient #2 - At Presby Hospital Dallas -
http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showt...00pm-10-8-2014
Frisco Possible Ebola Patient #2 - At Presby Hospital Dallas -
http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showt...00pm-10-8-2014
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Cascadians
Leska Emerald Adams
And so it begins ...
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
I want to see what becomes of this
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014...eac73805b875b3-6T1sboNiV-HSK1-742_634x466.jpg
Christopher Perkins, D.O., M.P.H. Medical Director, Health Authority with Dallas County Health and Human Services walks out of an apartment unit at The Ivy Apartment Complex, Thursday, Oct. 2, 2014, in Dallas. Dallas County officials have ordered family members who had contact with the patient diagnosed with the Ebola virus to stay inside their home. (AP Photo/Tony Gutierrez),
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap...s-About-80-monitored-Ebola.html#ixzz3F1MPBxKA
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That's what I was thinking, too.
And the "Judge" who blithely transported the woman (girlfriend) and her family to their new home "donated" by a church member.
Since they've been incommunicado ever since they left this apartment, I think we can safely say "No news is BAD news" when it comes to ebola---had they been still symptom-free, CDC would be shouting it from the rooftops as "proof" of their "EBOLA IS NOT EASILY CAUGHT" meme....
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
Only thing I could find on a google search re the girlfriend was this:
Dallas Pastor Says Ebola Victim's Girlfriend Has Not Left the U.S.
George Mason, senior pastor at Wilshire Baptist Church in Dallas, said that Louise Troh, the girlfriend of Thomas Eric Duncan, the Liberian Ebola victim currently hospitalized in critical condition at a Dallas hospital, has not been out of the country since coming to the United States more than a decade ago.
"The answer is no, she has not been back to Liberia," Mason said in an exclusive interview with Breitbart News on Monday.
"She doesn't even have a passport; she has not traveled at all," Mason noted, adding that she doesn't have the money to travel.
Mason's statement, which he says is based on phone conversations with Troh over the past several days while she has been quarantined, contradicts previous reports in the Daily Mail and ABC News.
The Daily Mail reported that Troh had visited Liberia in August, citing activity on a Facebook account they believe to be hers. In a separate story, updated on Monday morning but prior to Mason's interview with Breitbart News, the Daily Mail reported that Mason told them on Sunday that Troh had visited Liberia this summer.
ABC News went further in an October 2 report, stating that Troh accompanied Duncan on his flights from Liberia to Dallas, where he landed on September 20.
Mason also told Breitbart News that, though he has spoken with Troh regularly over the past several days while she has been quarantined in a private four bedroom house, "I don't know where she is."
"I am fairly confident that it's someone from the faith community [who provided the house], but it is not someone from our church."
Mason said that he believed the rekindling of the relationship between Thomas Eric Duncan and Troh, who is the mother of his child, Kasiah Duncan, born in Liberia about 19 years ago, occurred without an in-person meeting between the two.
"I think it's a telephone situation," he told Breitbart News.
After a falling out between Troh and the elder Duncan, Troh left Liberia some time in the 1990s. Their child joined her in the United States at some later date. He graduated from Emmett J. Conrad High School and is currently a college student in San Angelo, Texas, according to the Dallas Morning News.
Mason also said of Troh that "she is a naturalized citizen." However, he noted that he had not personally confirmed that status but instead was told of it by "the man who runs point on our English Language program, Max Post, who is also a historian."
Mark Wingfield, associate pastor at Wilshire Baptist Church, also spoke with Breitbart News on Monday. According to Wingfield, "Louise and some of her family first came into contact with us—I want to say back in the winter, early 2014 or late 2013."
"We are predominantly an Anglo congregation," Wingfield added. "We have been involved in working with immigrants and refugees. I think it is through those connections we came in contact with Louise and her family."
"The beginning point might have been some English Language classes. Louise and her nieces also got involved in a Bible class."
Senior pastor Mason recalls, "I think it was earlier than that. I am fuzzy when we first began connecting with her nieces. There were three nieces and we immediately went to a support team. We became acquainted with Louise, and that led to her baptism in June. Her niece Agnes was baptized in August."
"In the midst of all this," Wingfield added, "several things happened.They had needs that some in our church were trying to help them with daily living." Wingfield added, "
The apartment building where Louise Troh and her family live, Wingfield said, "The Ivy Apartments are located in a part of Dallas called Vickery Meadow. Thirty or more languages are spoken there."
"The Ivy has not endured well," Wingfield noted. "It is low rent apartments, filled with people from all over the world who come to Dallas."
"This Bible study class, the Open Bible Class, they have really taken Louise in. Some months ago, Louise lost a daughter who died during childbirth in Liberia. The child lived; the mother didn't. One of our staff members led a memorial service for Louise's daughter at Louise's apartment."
Both Wingfield and Mason indicated that the members of the Open Bible Class, most of whom are older than the 54-year-old Troh, consider her a friend. The class members, as well as the entire congregation at Wilshire Baptist Church, will continue to provide support and assistance to Troh and her family, they both added.
Image source: Wilshire Baptist Church
Lilbitsnana
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Since the tweet was from a Dallas TV station, I assume they mean Central time.
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
We still have the original Dallas thread, and I REMEMBER on that several quotes by her---let's compare them.
iboya
Veteran Member
Yes, public statements by "family" members are composed when they are "official"
Thanks
Lilbitsnana
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You're welcome.
Lilbitsnana
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a link for live video from the Dallas 5 NBC tv station....currently showing overhead view
http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Fri...278555081.html
it won't embed
ETA: sozo posted a better one (not constantly reloading, but no talking)
http://www.myfoxdfw.com/category/264130/stream-1
I posted this one: news people are talking about it now while showing ambulance going down freeway
http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Frisco-Investigating-Possible-Ebola-Case-278555081.html
http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Fri...278555081.html
it won't embed
ETA: sozo posted a better one (not constantly reloading, but no talking)
http://www.myfoxdfw.com/category/264130/stream-1
I posted this one: news people are talking about it now while showing ambulance going down freeway
http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Frisco-Investigating-Possible-Ebola-Case-278555081.html
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Melodi
Disaster Cat
Honestly, people are welcome to their own opinions but I think it is a bit much to state that someone is or is not a person of whatever faith, based on a family decision to sue or not sue a hospital for damages when they may have made a grave error in judgment. While those laws are way over-used in the US, they are in place for a reason to give people a redress in case of gross medical negligence or malpractice; which sending someone with Ebola home with an antibiotic who has reported just come in from a hot zone, without testing them probably is. But I am not a judge or a jury that is what they are there for.
Also, I would like to point out that I used to work in worker-compensation, and often even in the 1980's; it was the INSURANCE COMPANY who demanded the family sue the hospital/doctor/workplace etc or they would refuse to cover the claim or pay the support money. This was because the entire system is (and was) set up to see who can get the most money out of whom on a corporate level; so it isn't always families being "greedy" or lawyers chasing ambulances; it is often insurance companies chasing insurance companies.
That said, the family may also feel backed into a corner but willing to make a settlement such as "The hospital agrees not to charge for treatment and we will not sue for damages." Of course if the kids or his lady become ill possibly because they sent the guy home untreated (or anyone else who entered the apartment after he was sent home the first time) then all bets are off and the hospital better have really good insurance because they are going to need it.
Also, I would like to point out that I used to work in worker-compensation, and often even in the 1980's; it was the INSURANCE COMPANY who demanded the family sue the hospital/doctor/workplace etc or they would refuse to cover the claim or pay the support money. This was because the entire system is (and was) set up to see who can get the most money out of whom on a corporate level; so it isn't always families being "greedy" or lawyers chasing ambulances; it is often insurance companies chasing insurance companies.
That said, the family may also feel backed into a corner but willing to make a settlement such as "The hospital agrees not to charge for treatment and we will not sue for damages." Of course if the kids or his lady become ill possibly because they sent the guy home untreated (or anyone else who entered the apartment after he was sent home the first time) then all bets are off and the hospital better have really good insurance because they are going to need it.
I've been expecting a lawsuit almost from the beginning, but I think the hospital probably has a pretty good defense in that Duncan LIED to them. Given that the "nephew" (not sure of the exact relationship) *called the CDC* three days later when Duncan's condition was deteriorating, and TOLD THEM he had Ebola and that the hospital wasn't taking it seriously, I think we have to assume that Duncan KNEW... or darned well suspected... that he had it.
I agree that sending a patient home with a diagnosis of a "common low level virus" (as I read on one thread) WITH ANTIBIOTICS is malpractice these days, but I'm not all that sure we can blame the hospital for not "knowing" he had Ebola even though he himself apparently did.
Summerthyme
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Kris started a new thread for FRISCO
Frisco Possible Ebola Patient #2 - At Presby Hospital Dallas -
http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showt...00pm-10-8-2014
Frisco Possible Ebola Patient #2 - At Presby Hospital Dallas -
http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showt...00pm-10-8-2014
Suzieq
Veteran Member
Blood Moon is today, October 8, 2014
The man dies over the weekend according to news overseas. Why did they wait till today, to announce his death?
Melodi
Disaster Cat
It all hinges on if Duncan actually told the receiving nurse he had recently come from West Africa; if he did then the hospital is probably in deep kimchi, if he didn't then they may be off the hook - but again that is what courts are for; these cases are seldom simple.
If the Deputy does turn out to have it (I hope not) then it will be a serious Worker's Compensation case, every State is different but all States are required to have a program by Federal law and again the law suit issue will likely not be in the families control if the health insurance company decides to sue the City, The Employer or whomever to recover the funds they are likely to have to pay out for care which we already know can be half a million or more per patient.
Be Well
may all be well
He went into the hospital the night of Sept 28, and, IIRC, was not put into an isolated room until early the 29th. 21 days from the 28th is Oct.19. Plus, items he touched, coughed on, spewed on etc can remain infective for in indeterminate amount of time; times vary depending on surface, temperature, moisture level, and probably how much virus and what it's in (urine, vomit, sputum, etc).
So theoretically and practically, items and surfaces in his apartment could have infected people up until the time everyone left and they locked it up.
Plus, if any of the people who frequented his apartment, lived in it, stayed overnight, and so on, contracted Ebola, they likely are able to infect others even before rampant symptoms. And we do NOT know how most of them are faring.
No.
24 days since INTIIAL EXPOSURE to the pregnant woman who later died. That happened on the night of 9/15 and early morning of 9/16.
14 days since he first showed up at the hospital with symptoms on the late night of 9/25.
Ebola cases have 4 major milestones:
Exposure
Symptoms
Death or Recovery
No Longer Contagious (91 days post-recovery after last evidence of Ebola via normal blood testing)