EBOLA Duncan died at 7:51 this morning per wfaa tv
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Yep... with the "best medical care in the world" (presumably)
I'm betting on a major lawsuit by the survivors, claiming that if the hospital hadn't goofed, and sent him home three days before he got REALLY sick, he could have survived. Of course, that is likely to be refuted with "well, if he had TOLD us he had been exposed to/had Ebola, it wouldn't have happened"!
I'm still stunned that they have "cleared" the stepdaughter after only 7 days... I'm glad she apparently has the common sense to not go back to work for at least awhile yet! I wouldn't feel remotely comfortable about having dodged the bullet until the full three weeks had passed.
Summerthyme
What happened to 21 days?
21 days is the *generally accepted* longest incubation time between exposure and *first symptoms*.
Summerthyme
Thomas Duncan - Dead
http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/health/2014/10/08/ebola-dallas-texas-health-hospital/16910143/
Ebola patient dies at Dallas hospital
DALLAS — A patient diagnosed with Ebola in Dallas on September 30 has died, according to officials from Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital Dallas.
Thomas Eric Duncan, who was admitted to the hospital on September 28, was pronounced dead at 7:51 a.m. Wednesday, read a statement released "He fought courageously in this battle," said Wendell Watson, a spokesman with Texas Health Presbyterian. "Our professionals, the doctors and nurses in the unit, as well as the entire Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital Dallas community, are also grieving his passing."
Family members of Duncan remain under quarantine. The family hasn't showed symptoms of the virus and will remain under monitoring and isolation until October 19.
"My thoughts are with the family and friends of Thomas Eric Duncan at this time, especially his fiancée Louise, their son Karsiah and all those who loved him," said Dallas Count Judge Clay Jenkins in a written statement. "We are also thinking of the dedicated hospital staff who assisted Mr. Duncan daily while he fought this terrible disease. We offer prayers of comfort and peace to everyone impacted by his passing."
Duncan boarded a plane in Liberia on September 19 and arrived in Dallas the following day. He reported feeling ill on September 24 and sought care at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital the next day. Doctors released Duncan with a prescription for antibiotics on September 26.
He was readmitted to the hospital two days later.
http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/health/2014/10/08/ebola-dallas-texas-health-hospital/16910143/
Ebola patient dies at Dallas hospital
DALLAS — A patient diagnosed with Ebola in Dallas on September 30 has died, according to officials from Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital Dallas.
Thomas Eric Duncan, who was admitted to the hospital on September 28, was pronounced dead at 7:51 a.m. Wednesday, read a statement released "He fought courageously in this battle," said Wendell Watson, a spokesman with Texas Health Presbyterian. "Our professionals, the doctors and nurses in the unit, as well as the entire Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital Dallas community, are also grieving his passing."
Family members of Duncan remain under quarantine. The family hasn't showed symptoms of the virus and will remain under monitoring and isolation until October 19.
"My thoughts are with the family and friends of Thomas Eric Duncan at this time, especially his fiancée Louise, their son Karsiah and all those who loved him," said Dallas Count Judge Clay Jenkins in a written statement. "We are also thinking of the dedicated hospital staff who assisted Mr. Duncan daily while he fought this terrible disease. We offer prayers of comfort and peace to everyone impacted by his passing."
Duncan boarded a plane in Liberia on September 19 and arrived in Dallas the following day. He reported feeling ill on September 24 and sought care at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital the next day. Doctors released Duncan with a prescription for antibiotics on September 26.
He was readmitted to the hospital two days later.
BertaBurtonLake
Inactive
What happened to 21 days?
2-21 days is widely held to be the timeframe within which a person exposed to the disease would exhibit the first symptoms. The problem is, in at least 1 well documented case, the first symptoms precede fever by as much as 3 days. The presentation of fever is being held by the CDC as the gold standard for infectivity when it has been proven that other symptoms appear well before that.
Bubble Head
Has No Life - Lives on TB
I think that Israel reported correctly that he died on Sunday. They did not want the news out because they needed to figure out the next steps which of course means how to handle the body and keep the stock market afloat. They have also harvested many post mortem samples for future use. The last thing on their minds was having the family view him. When demand to view was made and probably a verbal threat of using an attorney made by the family their hand was forced. Now comes the really hard part of concealment. How to dispose of his wasted carcass. Maybe that judge will take it in an act of mercy like he took the other hot victims of Duncan's arrival.
Melodi
Disaster Cat
I suspect they had to finally unhook the machines (he probably did "die" on Sunday) because the family (and/or their Church etc) realized they needed a lawyer and either had one or were in the process of obtaining one. At which time the hospital would either need a court order or perhaps an intervention from the CDC; to keep the family from getting any news and hiding his clinical death (even on life support) would be very difficult to continue keeping quiet about.
Even if the CDC or even Homeland Security declared it a "matter of National Security" and ordered a news blackout etc; it would pretty much answer the question "yep he's dead," is what the public will think and it would leave them open to legal challenges they probably don't want right now.
So, now they can have him be dead - as for transport their are supposed to be special bio-hazard body bags etc; kept around for things like accidents at nuclear power plants etc; that's probably how this will be handled with perhaps using a local morgue that has a contract or even military facilities for the cremation. Since, for the moment, it is just once person it should be doable; it gets more complicated if there are multiple deaths to deal with.
Even if the CDC or even Homeland Security declared it a "matter of National Security" and ordered a news blackout etc; it would pretty much answer the question "yep he's dead," is what the public will think and it would leave them open to legal challenges they probably don't want right now.
So, now they can have him be dead - as for transport their are supposed to be special bio-hazard body bags etc; kept around for things like accidents at nuclear power plants etc; that's probably how this will be handled with perhaps using a local morgue that has a contract or even military facilities for the cremation. Since, for the moment, it is just once person it should be doable; it gets more complicated if there are multiple deaths to deal with.
Hawkgirl_70
Veteran Member
This is a dup thread.
Come over and join us here:
http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?456411-Duncan-died-at-7-51-this-morning-per-wfaa-tv
Come over and join us here:
http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?456411-Duncan-died-at-7-51-this-morning-per-wfaa-tv
Bubble Head
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Stepdaughter maybe having first stage symptoms and knows she is infected. She has the decency to try to not spread it and is demonstrating more common sense then the entire CDC. Girl friend and others still missing in action. Not even a Skype shot on we are great and doing fine. Like our new digs.
How are you coming up with 38 days?
I get 24 at most...from September 15th to October 8th.
On the plus side...if there is one...this will send a message to other west Africans that its not an automatic lifesaver to escape to america. And plus two...the CDC, gov, health establishment etc.. Just cannot keep shrugging this off as "hey guys, this is USA we got this Ebola thing". Now maybe they will TAKE THIS MORE SERIOUSLY!!
Meadowlark
Has No Life - Lives on TB
My sympathies to the mans family but not so much to him, after he knowingly came to this country while likely infected for his own selfish purposes. Yes I know anyone in the same situation in including myself, fearing death, would be tempted to do the same. But that does not change the facts.
Rescuedog
Inactive
How long before his family sues for malpractice? I give it a week. Knowing our legal system they will be handsomely rewarded. I just hope the hospital has the common sense to then sue his estate for the cost of his care. Hope the residents of the apartment complex get in on that action too.
RD
RD
We saw what was important to the people in charge follow the money...The market was artificially propped up right after his death was announced this whole thing is being controled for money. There are more people infected from Mister Duncan ....EBOLA is a LEVEL 4 pathogen Highly contagious and highly deadly...We are being controled at every turn.. again Follow the money
Suzieq
Veteran Member
*Thomas Eric Duncan - Dead at 42
October 08, 2014
*(Fair Use)
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/10/08/dallas-ebola-patient-dies/
BertaBurtonLake
Inactive
I dunno what happened, honestly. I counted wrong, obviously. Will edit my post above.
ETA: Son reminded me we were conversing while I was typing and HE said "38" in regards to something he was talking about, so I typed it. *Note to self: don't type while your kid is talking to you ESPECIALLY with regards to numbers
Cyclonemom
Veteran Member
So, thinking it might take 2 days do deal with the highly infections body, we have to wait until Oct 31 (23 days from now) to see if any others are infected from him (HCW, crematory workers, hospital clean up crew, etc)
Tortie
Veteran Member
I saw this on Sunday after I had just completed reading the news on this website and the Israel Times. I went back and looked and it was not there. I googled it and it showed up on Youtube and Beforeitsnews.com. You be the judge. You can go today, select news, and just back up to October 5, and it is still not there.
iboya
Veteran Member
I want to see what becomes of this
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014...eac73805b875b3-6T1sboNiV-HSK1-742_634x466.jpg
Christopher Perkins, D.O., M.P.H. Medical Director, Health Authority with Dallas County Health and Human Services walks out of an apartment unit at The Ivy Apartment Complex, Thursday, Oct. 2, 2014, in Dallas. Dallas County officials have ordered family members who had contact with the patient diagnosed with the Ebola virus to stay inside their home. (AP Photo/Tony Gutierrez),
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Christopher Perkins, D.O., M.P.H. Medical Director, Health Authority with Dallas County Health and Human Services walks out of an apartment unit at The Ivy Apartment Complex, Thursday, Oct. 2, 2014, in Dallas. Dallas County officials have ordered family members who had contact with the patient diagnosed with the Ebola virus to stay inside their home. (AP Photo/Tony Gutierrez),
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And WHO does not declare the end of an Ebola outbreak until at least 42 days has passed....TWO complete incubation cycles.
Yes, 16 days has been the average in West Africa.
A death won't stop them. They never said we wouldn't have deaths. They just said that they would "stop this thing"...meaning the spread. That one still remains to be seen but from outward appearances at this point, so far so good.
mzkitty
I give up.
Yeah. Now I'm seeing crap about it's racist that the black man died and whites lived.
4m
Statement from deceased Ebola patient's fiancé - @JasonWhitely
See below comment here, and I've seen them on the Dallas Ebola twitter too:
https://twitter.com/JasonWhitely/status/519889079811309568/photo/1
Occupy Africa @OccupyAfrica1 14m14 minutes ago
@JasonWhitely the only black patient with Ebola died..while three others white with Ebola survived?????????Questions....
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Sleeping Cobra
TB Fanatic
24 days from contact to death, for those who are are keeping track of these things.
This is what i was wondering about.
This is what i was wondering about.
Tigerlily
Senior Member
I'm sorry, I simply don't believe that she wrote that.... or said that. That is a Western way of speaking. She is Liberian. Even if she has been here a decade, it wouldn't change the foundational communication that she had used her entire life.
emeraldrose
Contributing Member
Dallas won't be clear till the end of October
Sleeping Cobra
TB Fanatic
Mama Ten Bears
Veteran Member
Not!
PyratePrincess
Deceased
Was just told the girlfriend was in critical condition. Failed to ask the citation (she was in a hurry to make last minute runs). If true-we need to blast that publicly via social media to show how complicit these folks are...
the watcher
Inactive
Compare how the officials deal with this, VS a trained hazmat team. I also wonder how long it will be before it spreads from the two guys....
[/QUOTE]I want to see what becomes of this
That whole discussion is probably best for another thead - I have no expertise in the area - but would be interested if we had someone who was
psychgirl
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Told by whom??
Sleeping Cobra
TB Fanatic
Can Anyone Confirm This? Accuracy Wise
Death of Thomas Duncan in Dallas highlights the typical and rapid sequence of disease. #Ebola
Death of Thomas Duncan in Dallas highlights the typical and rapid sequence of disease. #Ebola