HEALTH “Catastrophic Contagion” - Gates newest tabletop exercise (OP Dec 2022)

helen

Panic Sex Lady
I don't think it's waiting for 2025. The diseases ivermectin may help to treat do not appear to be enterovirus, but hey, someone was going to ask.

Ivermectin study:

The small molecule macrocyclic lactone ivermectin, approved by the US Food and Drug Administration for parasitic infections, has received renewed attention in the last eight years due to its apparent exciting potential as an antiviral.

It was identified in a high-throughput chemical screen as inhibiting recognition of the nuclear localizing Human Immunodeficiency Virus-1 (HIV-1) integrase protein by the host heterodimeric importin (IMP) α/β1 complex, and has since been shown to bind directly to IMPαto induce conformational changes that prevent its normal function in mediating nuclear import of key viral and host proteins.

Excitingly, cell culture experiments show robust antiviral action towards HIV-1, dengue virus (DENV), Zika virus, West Nile virus, Venezuelan equine encephalitis virus, Chikungunya virus, Pseudorabies virus, adenovirus, and SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19).

Phase III human clinical trials have been completed for DENV, with >50 trials currently in progress worldwide for SARS-CoV-2. This mini-review discusses the case for ivermectin as a host-directed broad-spectrum antiviral agent for a range of viruses, including SARS-CoV-2.


 

theoriginaldeb

Still A Geology Fanatic
I'm pretty sure this corona virus was a lab escapee, and not ready to be turned loose on the world. It speaks volumes about the ham-fisted way they handled everything.
The virus was not lethal enough yet--not ready to be turned loose for maximum terror, it escaped as a heads up to the world concerning these lunatics long range plan.
 

helen

Panic Sex Lady
I'm pretty sure this corona virus was a lab escapee, and not ready to be turned loose on the world. It speaks volumes about the ham-fisted way they handled everything.
The virus was not lethal enough yet--not ready to be turned loose for maximum terror, it escaped as a heads up to the world concerning these lunatics long range plan.
Monkeypox didn't go away. It just slowed down. It's mutating too. I thought another pandemic exercise was a joke, but it's not. My first response is to find it and find a way to fight it. But my oxygen levels are slipping into the 70's now, and the highs are getting lower. I'm finding stuff for you guys to study. Don't wait for 2025.
 

bw

Fringe Ranger
I'm pretty sure this corona virus was a lab escapee, and not ready to be turned loose on the world. It speaks volumes about the ham-fisted way they handled everything.
I'm inclined to think the same. It got out, so they had to make hay while the sun shines as best they could.
 

psychgirl

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I don't think it's waiting for 2025. The diseases ivermectin may help to treat do not appear to be enterovirus, but hey, someone was going to ask.

Ivermectin study:

The small molecule macrocyclic lactone ivermectin, approved by the US Food and Drug Administration for parasitic infections, has received renewed attention in the last eight years due to its apparent exciting potential as an antiviral.

It was identified in a high-throughput chemical screen as inhibiting recognition of the nuclear localizing Human Immunodeficiency Virus-1 (HIV-1) integrase protein by the host heterodimeric importin (IMP) α/β1 complex, and has since been shown to bind directly to IMPαto induce conformational changes that prevent its normal function in mediating nuclear import of key viral and host proteins.

Excitingly, cell culture experiments show robust antiviral action towards HIV-1, dengue virus (DENV), Zika virus, West Nile virus, Venezuelan equine encephalitis virus, Chikungunya virus, Pseudorabies virus, adenovirus, and SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19).

Phase III human clinical trials have been completed for DENV, with >50 trials currently in progress worldwide for SARS-CoV-2. This mini-review discusses the case for ivermectin as a host-directed broad-spectrum antiviral agent for a range of viruses, including SARS-CoV-2.


Thank you for finding this!!
I knew there were studies out there but we’ve read SO much my brain was too overloaded to try and find them all.
 

Hfcomms

EN66iq
I don't think it's waiting for 2025. The diseases ivermectin may help to treat do not appear to be enterovirus, but hey, someone was going to ask.

Ivermectin study:

The small molecule macrocyclic lactone ivermectin, approved by the US Food and Drug Administration for parasitic infections, has received renewed attention in the last eight years due to its apparent exciting potential as an antiviral.

It was identified in a high-throughput chemical screen as inhibiting recognition of the nuclear localizing Human Immunodeficiency Virus-1 (HIV-1) integrase protein by the host heterodimeric importin (IMP) α/β1 complex, and has since been shown to bind directly to IMPαto induce conformational changes that prevent its normal function in mediating nuclear import of key viral and host proteins.

Excitingly, cell culture experiments show robust antiviral action towards HIV-1, dengue virus (DENV), Zika virus, West Nile virus, Venezuelan equine encephalitis virus, Chikungunya virus, Pseudorabies virus, adenovirus, and SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19).

Phase III human clinical trials have been completed for DENV, with >50 trials currently in progress worldwide for SARS-CoV-2. This mini-review discusses the case for ivermectin as a host-directed broad-spectrum antiviral agent for a range of viruses, including SARS-CoV-2.



If Pfizer or another major big pharma conglomerates could of patented ivermectin and sold it for thousands of dollars a dose the airwaves would be inundated with advertisements for this miracle drug to ask your doctor about. Cheap and effective are anethema to the drug industry.
 

psychgirl

Has No Life - Lives on TB
If Pfizer or another major big pharma conglomerates could have patented ivermectin and sold it for thousands of dollars a dose the airwaves would be inundated with advertisements for this miracle drug to ask your doctor about. Cheap and effective are anethema to the drug industry.
+1000
 

L.A.B.

Goodness before greatness.
Me, either! Common sense is getting harder to find, and some seem to just live for the Doom and Gloom.
There are only five (5) common senses. Together the conglomerate seems to mystify a greater percentage of the populous.

In the Spring of 1996 a full page ad was put forth in an international periodical. A think-tank out of Columbia-U was promoting a culling of CONUS to 145 million by the year 2010.

There was no “doom”-rush in finding the article; though there was a 6th sense impulse to leave the job at lunch to search for something…

… Something hidden from my five common senses was noted and cataloged for future recall.

In 2009 the Mexican swine flu came north. Then a Chinese W.H.O. doctor came from the east. In her news interview on U.S. prime-time, she said “Should America go to Pandemic level-6; they would be required to go to their local post office for mandated vaccines.”

We covered the W.H.O. doctor and Swine-flu subject many times since.

Who noted the trend and used it in successful self preservation decision making?

Watch the bread crumbs. Don’t fret. Don’t frown. Just stay at the level of cognition that your vagus nerve can sustain without Systemic damage.

In other words head on a swivel eyes on the horizon
 

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
Not enough children got vaxxed with Covid. This time they will specifically target children so once people are aware of this happening, (seeing many many children die) most every parent will go get them vaxxed.

Then let time take care of depopulation. Why both vaxxing anyone over 40? We'll die soon enough anyway. They waited this long for their precious depopulation efforts; why not one more generation?
 

SouthernBreeze

Has No Life - Lives on TB
In other words head on a swivel eyes on the horizon

Some of you are giving me the impression that you think I'm not watching anything. Of course I am, or I would not come here every day to find the latest and greatest. Sure, I'm watching, but my perspective is grounded in a biblical perspective. That's why I can't elaborate more on what I believe, lest the whole thread gets thrown off of "main".

I will say this, though. There are some, here, who read news articles or reports, and immediately, it's panic and :hof: Examples.....OMG! Russia is going to bomb the US with nukes, OMG! Railroad strike, OMG! Covid, OMG! monkeypox, OMG! Ebola, OMG! Some possible new contagion, OMG! the economy is crashing, OMG, OMG! Not everyone here has that kind of attitude, but there are some who seem to live and feed off of fear and doom porn. At least, that's my perspective, and I'm sure others can see it, too.
 

WalknTrot

Veteran Member
Some of you are giving me the impression that you think I'm not watching anything. Of course I am, or I would not come here every day to find the latest and greatest. Sure, I'm watching, but my perspective is grounded in a biblical perspective. That's why I can't elaborate more on what I believe, lest the whole thread gets thrown off of "main".

I will say this, though. There are some, here, who read news articles or reports, and immediately, it's panic and :hof: Examples.....OMG! Russia is going to bomb the US with nukes, OMG! Railroad strike, OMG! Covid, OMG! monkeypox, OMG! Ebola, OMG! Some possible new contagion, OMG! the economy is crashing, OMG, OMG! Not everyone here has that kind of attitude, but there are some who seem to live and feed off of fear and doom porn. At least, that's my perspective, and I'm sure others can see it, too.
:lol:

Yeah. I lean more toward logic and past performance rather than Biblical perspective, but just...yeah.
I figure a lot of it is boredom and "adrenalin junkiness", but WTH do I know. :shr:

Just don't splash any on me...
and I will point out some of the over-the-top :chkn: once in a while. :lol:
 

Hfcomms

EN66iq
I will say this, though. There are some, here, who read news articles or reports, and immediately, it's panic and :hof: Examples.....OMG! Russia is going to bomb the US with nukes, OMG! Railroad strike, OMG! Covid, OMG! monkeypox, OMG! Ebola, OMG! Some possible new contagion, OMG! the economy is crashing, OMG, OMG! Not everyone here has that kind of attitude, but there are some who seem to live and feed off of fear and doom porn. At least, that's my perspective, and I'm sure others can see it, too.

So what? You can’t control the reaction of others and as long as you take the information that comes your way and filter it through your (and mine) knowledge that God has everything under control you stay grounded even if some others may not.

Two mistakes people can make with this and either is to the extreme and both are unhealthy. First would be sticking your head in the sand and pretending nothing wicked this way comes and the other are those that panic on every report. We can’t do anything about people on the extremes.

Ref the O.P. with the article. It is a statement of fact that the globalists held a pandemic exercise four months before Covid and pretty much the governments of the world followed the plan. It is another statement of fact that in October the same group of criminals did another exercise on a follow up pandemic and most likely endeavored to fix the mistakes they made the first time around.

I don’t personally believe it to be conspiracy theory or outside the realm of probability that another pandemic is waiting in the wings. We can be aware, educate ourselves and be proactive without operating in a panic especially with recent history along the same lines. I have no problem publicly stating I believe God to be in complete control of all of these things but I also believe God never changes. To wit he warned Noah and others throughout the ages to be prepared for the coming storms and he does so today. You can’t change people that overreact or panic but you might be a calming influence on those given to such things.
 

pauldingbabe

The Great Cat
MY best example of this is the weekend that the Medina County Fairgrounds did a full up MCI/Disaster Drill for something at the Fairgrounds (I BELIEVE that the drill was a steam engine blast with MANY injuries/fatalities) and the hot-wash after that drill engendered some comms changes, some tuning of authorities and some rearrangements of where helo's were normally staged. ALL of those adjustments were made in a RAPID manner so they were in effect within 2 weeks when one of the larger steam tractors at the Steam Festival went high order.

I was working for one of the tertiary hospitals in the region and was able to watch, in real time, how over a dozen hospitals from Columbus, OH to Detroit to Buffalo, managed to get everyone in need of ICU/Burn unit etc taken care of. This was a SERIOUS NDMS challenge event that damn near shut down ALL of us with just slightly over 40 ICU patients and 60 or so serious but not ICU-needing patients. Take a look at the map to get a legit handle on just HOW MANY hospitals were involved.
HENCE, I am a serious proponent of drills.

If your ready, you don't have to get ready.

I enjoyed drills. It's good to run things and see if they actually work.

Your drill would have been an interesting one to follow.
 

SouthernBreeze

Has No Life - Lives on TB
So what? You can’t control the reaction of others and as long as you take the information that comes your way and filter it through your (and mine) knowledge that God has everything under control you stay grounded even if some others may not.

Two mistakes people can make with this and either is to the extreme and both are unhealthy. First would be sticking your head in the sand and pretending nothing wicked this way comes and the other are those that panic on every report. We can’t do anything about people on the extremes.

Ref the O.P. with the article. It is a statement of fact that the globalists held a pandemic exercise four months before Covid and pretty much the governments of the world followed the plan. It is another statement of fact that in October the same group of criminals did another exercise on a follow up pandemic and most likely endeavored to fix the mistakes they made the first time around.

I don’t personally believe it to be conspiracy theory or outside the realm of probability that another pandemic is waiting in the wings. We can be aware, educate ourselves and be proactive without operating in a panic especially with recent history along the same lines. I have no problem publicly stating I believe God to be in complete control of all of these things but I also believe God never changes. To wit he warned Noah and others throughout the ages to be prepared for the coming storms and he does so today. You can’t change people that overreact or panic but you might be a calming influence on those given to such things.

I agree completely with what you said. I don't try to control people, how they react, or what they believe. I'm certainly not one to stick my head in the sand, either. My earlier reference to "using common sense" is seeing what's coming and making a rational response. I've seen some who absolutely panic and start taking extreme measures over a "TWEET". Everyone knows TWEETS are always true........:rolleyes:

I does seem that, lately, every other thread has panic and fear imbedded in it. I like to read threads, too, but without all the extra. It's not my forum, and I have no intention of trying to change anything about it. People will just be people.

Enough from me lest I be kicked out of the thread. It is what it is.
 

helen

Panic Sex Lady
This recent exercise specifically goes after free speech. You should care.

15 million dead children and millions more children disabled by an enterovirus is reminiscent of the polio epidemics. We have a proven, state-required vaccine for polio, so it isn't likely to be the normal variety of that. In case this exercise gets as real as the last two exercises (covid, monkeypox), it's a good idea to know what enterovirus needs to spread.

U.S. case law is full of parents having children removed for medical treatment, sometimes until the child dies, depending on the condition.

Most people on this board are old enough to have lined up in the hallway at school for mass vaccinations. It was a given.

Exercises are good. I've participated in several. We practice in case it happens.

When these entities practice, it tends to happen.
 

helen

Panic Sex Lady
It didn't take long to find this from 2020.


And there's another type of polio that's problematic. Sixteen African nations are battling outbreaks of what's called "vaccine-derived polio." This is a form of polio that stems from the oral polio vaccine used in lower income countries because it is cheap and easy to administer.

The oral vaccine contains a live but weakened version of the polio virus. The virus replicates inside the child's intestine and eventually is excreted. In places with poor sanitation, fecal matter can enter the drinking water supply, and the virus is able to start spreading from person to person. That was once considered a useful feature of the oral vaccine, since it can help unvaccinated children become immune. However, in rare cases in places with poor sanitation and large numbers of unvaccinated children, the attenuated virus can mutate in the wild and regain strength to the point where it can cause paralysis.

 
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helen

Panic Sex Lady
Well, this is from 2022. You should read the article in full.





Instead, perhaps the biggest threat to the effort now is an explosion of vaccine-derived polio outbreaks in Africa that affected almost two dozen countries last year and paralyzed more than 500 children in 2020 and again in 2021.

Vaccine-derived strains emerge where children are un- or underimmunized, allowing the live, weakened virus in the oral polio vaccine (OPV) to circulate and accumulate enough mutations to revert to its neurovirulent form and paralyze kids.

These outbreaks—which almost always emerge from type 2 poliovirus, one of the three virus strains—are “very worrying” and “front burner” at the Global Polio Eradication Initiative (GPEI), says John Vertefeuille of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), a partner in the initiative.

A big part of the problem is that countries don’t view vaccine-derived strains as an emergency, says Simona Zipursky, an adviser to the World Health Organization’s (WHO’s) polio program, even though they behave just like the wild virus. “It is not like there is a milder variant as there is with COVID-19,” Zipursky says. Nigeria’s widely lauded victory over the wild virus—it was the last African country to achieve that feat—fed a sense that “the job was done,” says WHO’s Aidan O’Leary, who directs GPEI. The quality of Nigeria’s polio program, once among the best in the world, slipped, and today the country is “the most important generator” of vaccine-derived polioviruses, says Jay Wenger of the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, another partner in GPEI. Nigeria accounted for more than half of all vaccine-derived polio cases globally last year and exported the virus to 18 countries.

Other factors have contributed, too. Lately, many African countries have been slow to respond to new outbreaks as they wait for a new vaccine that they think will solve the problems, which has allowed the virus to spread. Many are frustrated with the existing vaccine, monovalent OPV2 (mOPV2); they would use it to quash an outbreak but then, because the vaccine virus occasionally reverts, the response would seed more outbreaks.

Known as novel OPV2 (nOPV2), the new vaccine was engineered to be as effective as mOPV2 but more genetically stable, greatly lessening the chance it will revert. The vaccine, funded by the Gates Foundation, was rolled out in a few countries in March 2021 under an emergency use authorization.




 

helen

Panic Sex Lady
So I'm finding this stuff, and I'm not worried about the U.S. because we use injections of killed polio virus instead of oral live virus.

But I never stop soon enough. This is how it comes here.

Chuck, I'm really nauseous again.

They just invented a new oral polio virus that can, regrettably, mutate and start outbreaks.

It gets worse. They stopped vaccinating for a lot of diseases around the world because all available resources were directed to covid. There are millions of under-vaccinated kids about to get this new vaccine.

But wait! There's more! This is how it got in New York sewage, which happens to be a vector for a mutation outbreak.

Chuck, why can't I be normal?


BREAKING NEWS

CDC is discussing using oral polio vaccine for first time in 20 years to stop New York outbreak​

PUBLISHED FRI, OCT 21 2022 3:33 PM EDTUPDATED FRI, OCT 21 2022 7:10 PM EDT
  • The CDC is considering using the novel oral polio vaccine to quash an outbreak in the greater New York City area that left one person paralyzed over the summer.
  • New York has continued to detect poliovirus in sewage samples, with the latest coming from Brooklyn and Queens.
  • The U.S. currently uses the inactivated polio vaccine, which is highly effective at preventing paralysis but does not stop transmission of the virus.
  • Oral polio vaccines are much more effective at stopping transmission, though they use a live virus strain that carries the rare risk of mutating into a virulent form.


“It will be a process. It’s not something that we can pull the trigger on and have it appear overnight,” Routh told CNBC on Friday. “There will be lots of thought and discussion about the reintroduction of an oral polio vaccine into the United States,” she said.

(2025 sounds like the right timeframe.)

U.S. drug regulators pulled the oral vaccine off shelves in 2000 because it contains a live — but weakened — strain of the virus that can, in rare circumstances, mutate into a virulent form that is contagious and can potentially paralyze people who are not vaccinated.


Scientists believe this latest outbreak was caused by someone who was vaccinated with the live virus overseas and started a chain of transmission that eventually found its way to the United States.


Sewage samples in New York are linked to earlier samples in London and Jerusalem. It’s unclear where the transmission began originally.


While the oral vaccine doesn’t normally cause polio that paralyzes people, this one did because it was able to mutate into more virulent strains while spreading among people who weren’t vaccinated.

 
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helen

Panic Sex Lady
I'm going to make sure all the parents I know have information about inactive polio vaccine before the new oral potentially-mutating version gets approved in the U.S.





When should children get vaccinated against polio?​

As part of routine childhood immunization, children should get inactivated polio vaccine (IPV) to protect against polio. In accordance with CDC's Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) recommendations, children should get four doses total, with one dose at each of the following ages:
Dose 16 weeks through 2 months old
Dose 24 months old
Dose 36 months through 18 months old
Dose 44 years through 6 years old
Children who have not started their polio vaccine series or who are delayed in getting all recommended doses should start as soon as possible or finish their series by following the recommended catch-up schedule. For more information, see CDC's Vaccine Schedules for Parents.


 

helen

Panic Sex Lady
The Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, in partnership with WHO and the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, conducted Catastrophic Contagion, a pandemic tabletop exercise at the Grand Challenges Annual Meeting in Brussels, Belgium, on October 23, 2022.

World Polio Day was October 24, 2022.
 

helen

Panic Sex Lady

Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation pledge $1.2 billion to eradicate polio​


October 16, 2022, 12:41 pm



Last month, the Pan American Health Organization (PAHO) said Brazil, the Dominican Republic, Haiti and Peru are at very high risk for the reintroduction of polio. New York state is accelerating efforts to vaccinate residents after the virus was detected in wastewater samples. Cases were also detected in London and Jerusalem.


(Brazil and Peru are in massive civil upheaval.)
 

helen

Panic Sex Lady
There's the 15 million number.



September 2022

Brazil's Health Ministry has launched a new nationwide vaccination campaign against poliomyelitis and other maladies, it was reported. Attending Saturday's ceremony marking the beginning of the new effort was Minister Marcelo Queiroga.

According to the authorities, less than half of the target population has been immunized against polio. Parents and guardians were urged to vaccinate children under 5 five years old against the virus that causes infantile paralysis and to give booster doses to children and adolescents under 15 years old.

“We have a great challenge, not to allow poliomyelitis to be reintroduced in Brazil,” said Queiroga.

“We have 15 million children to vaccinate and we need you to help us so that we can bring their parents and grandparents to vaccinate at least 95% of these children,” he explained.


 

helen

Panic Sex Lady
The funny thing is, I was so sure it would be a gain of function exotic enterovirus, I really didn't believe it would be polio.

This is the new oral polio vaccine, licensed for emergency use in 2020 and already causing hundreds of vaccine-derived polio infections in 2020 and 2021.

This is the one they want to use in the U.S. but can't - yet.


Novel Oral Polio Vaccine type 2 (nOPV2) granted EUL recommendation​

WHO has issued an Emergency Use Listing recommendation for the type 2 novel oral polio vaccine (nOPV2)​



 

helen

Panic Sex Lady
Just my opinion. If you want to fight this new pandemic planned for 2025, get every kid under 18 vaccinated with the old inactive polio vaccine. Stamp out polio right now so they don't have a reason to license the new oral polio vaccine in the U.S.

You can stop it right now. Right now. Tell parents to get the kids the normal polio vaccine while they still can.
 

helen

Panic Sex Lady
Look for any hint that the Chinese are helping with research.


Working on it. Bio Farma is owned by the government of Indonesia.

The WHO Listed the nOPV2 vaccine produced by Bio Farma, Indonesia, for emergency use on November 13, 2021. Bio Farma, located in Jakarta Selatan 12190, Indonesia, is one of about 29 vaccine manufacturers in 22 countries worldwide that have obtained the WHO Prequalification.
 

helen

Panic Sex Lady
Indonesia's PT Bio Farma (Persero), the holding company for pharmaceutical state-owned enterprises (SOEs), will export its novel Oral Polio Vaccine type 2 (nOPV2) having secured a purchase contract with the United Nations Children's Fund (UNICEF) for 2022 & 23.
Under the contract, Bio Farma will export its oral polio vaccines based on purchase requests from UNICEF via multilateral contract agreement for the years 2022 & 23. The nOPV2 vaccine received an Emergency Use of Listing (EUL) from the World Health Organization (WHO) in November 2020, the first ever vaccine certified for emergency use, adding to Bio Farma's portfolio of products that were already available globally. It was initially used to combat outbreaks of circulating vaccine-derived polio viruses (cVDPVs) in a number of African and East Mediterranean countries.

Bio Farma's nOPV2 vaccine is now distributed internationally, ex-Indonesia, as Indonesia has been polio-free since 2014. Target countries in Africa for the vaccine have included Algeria, Cameroon, Kongo, Ethiopia, Gambia, Ghana, Nigeria, Senegal, and Uganda. In Europe, it is administered in Israel and Ukraine, and in the Middle East, in Egypt, Iran, Somalia and Yemen.

In manufacturing the nOPV2 vaccine, Bio Farma collaborated with world-class institutions like the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation (BMGF), the PATH, and the WHO.


 

helen

Panic Sex Lady
Geopolitical problems cause records to be lost when people start running away. So a baby gets the new oral vaccine at a UNICEF or WHO station, then disappears into a refugee camp, then the baby excretes polio virus that mutates into a lethal form.

Refugee camps lack sanitation. Polio, wild or vaccine-derived, spreads through fecal route. That's why they're checking sewage in the U.S.

South and Central America are seeing an uptick in polio, vaccine derived, I think.

People from literally anywhere in the world are walking over the southern U.S. border.

U.S. outbreaks will be associated with overcrowded border facilities. Formal refugees can bring it to big city sewage, but poop is on the ground when little kids walk over the border. They can't help it. If they are in diapers, the garbage gets thrown on the ground. Look at pictures of the places where they wait.

Gates isn't causing it. It will happen. Oral vaccine is the easiest cheapest way to vaccinate because there are no needles and alcohol. You either vaccinate for polio or you get wild polio outbreaks. Oral vaccine is more dangerous than inactive vaccine.

The movers and shakers are poised to make money off of the next pandemic, but they don't have to start it. It's already on the way.

Get your young people protected by the old vaccine before the new one is released in the U.S. and before a refugee brings the mutated vaccine-derived version into this country near you.
 

helen

Panic Sex Lady
2A grownups - the next round of polio vaccine isn't for you. The exercise was to model ways to get you to shut up.

Young people need hard copies of their shot records showing four doses of inactive (injected) polio vaccine to avoid being vaccinated again with the new mutating oral polio vaccine.

I was a senior in high school when they decided to add a fourth dose. The health department vaccinated the entire school system in one day with the old oral vaccine. They did the little kids first and ran out of sugar cubes. They made us open our mouths so they could squirt the vaccine in straight. I barfed my dose. It tasted like mop gone sour for a week.

Emergency Use Authorization in the U.S. will likely happen in 2023.

D68 is an enterovirus that causes Acute Flaccid Myelitis. I suppose it could get mixed up with a freshly polio vaccinated kid.

Don't vaccinate, and you get wild polio. Vaccinate with the new oral vaccine and you get vaccine-derived polio.

No way out. Kobayashi Maru.
 

bw

Fringe Ranger
Young people need hard copies of their shot records showing four doses of inactive (injected) polio vaccine to avoid being vaccinated again with the new mutating oral polio vaccine.
Up to what age do you suggest for this group?
 

momma_soapmaker

Disgusted
U.S. drug regulators pulled the oral vaccine off shelves in 2000 because it contains a live — but weakened — strain of the virus that can, in rare circumstances, mutate into a virulent form that is contagious and can potentially paralyze people who are not vaccinated.
They were still using the oral polio vaccine in the mid-'90s, because I refused to let them give it to our son. I had them use the shot. Nurse thought I was crazy. I had read about parents getting polio from changing their babies' diapers after they'd had the oral dose.

Guess not so crazy.
 

helen

Panic Sex Lady
Up to what age do you suggest for this group?

While the bad guys in this case did not cause the problem, nor can they stop the problem, the exercise was all about controlling information. Controlling information is a power grab.

All children under the age of 18 should have their immunization records on file somewhere. The kids need hard copies to prove they are up to date.

Since this is a power grab, I think every age could be at risk for needing immunization records for whatever reasons they dream up.

This is an AI-assisted predictive analytics exercise. Gates looks evil or prescient, but he is just a businessman who started in computers.

Polio outbreaks are inevitable whether you vaccinate for it (oral vaccine-derived) or not (wild polio).

You have the power
to mitigate involuntary vaccination with the oral vaccine by encouraging every parent in your life to get their kids up to date on immunizations NOW. The kids won't like it because it's injected, but it's much safer.

Emergency Use Authorization of the oral polio vaccine will likely happen in 2023.
 

helen

Panic Sex Lady
They were still using the oral polio vaccine in the mid-'90s, because I refused to let them give it to our son. I had them use the shot. Nurse thought I was crazy. I had read about parents getting polio from changing their babies' diapers after they'd had the oral dose.

Guess not so crazy.
You're not crazy. I had a bout of rash, fever, intense pain, and muscle weakness after the oral vaccine they added in high school. Until now, I never had a clue why, but maybe the oral vaccine did it. My first three were injections.
 
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