BUSH ANGER: OBAMA AIDES LEAK CHAT DETAILS

[Navydad]

Navydad, your sense of humor IMO is priceless.

I miss your sarcasm.

 

[TheSearcher]

My point is, did they agree on confidentiality beforehand? Or did Bush just assume?

I don't expect my conversations with others to remain private unless I have specifically requested the friend's confidence. Otherwise they have every right to repeat anything I say, and I'm a fool to say it out loud if I don't want it known.

You are kidding, right? Two men go into a room to talk one-on-one, no one else is there, it is obviously a private setting. The meeting was IMPLICITLY private, and it should have been obvious that the content of the conversation was private.

C'mon, FL. This was DUMB of Obama, no matter how you wish to rationalize it.

 

[Mark Armstrong]

Found another news story about the 100 Obama aides getting security clearance in advance. This one if from the Irish Times, so it's not just something made up by the Iranians:

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/world/2008/1110/1225925618698.html

Monday, November 10, 2008

Obama to send senior staff into federal agencies

MARK HENNESSY in Washington

UNITED STATES president-elect Barack Obama is to send over 100 senior staff - who had been given security clearance by the Secret Service in advance of election day - into federal agencies this week as preparations for his move to the White House intensify.

The decision to have staff vetted in advance, under legislation brought into force in 2004, is an illustration of the preparations taken by the Obama campaign not to repeat mistakes made during transitions in the past by winners of White House races.

A core team of up to 50 advisers has been working for months in considerable secrecy in planning for the first months of the Obama presidency, including actions necessary to reverse a series of actions taken by President George W Bush.

In particular, Mr Obama has closely studied the transition arrangements made by President Bill Clinton in late 1992 and early 1993, which are generally accepted to have been disastrous and which hampered his first 18 months in office.

Mr Obama has already appointed Representative Rahm Emanuel as chief-of-staff and other announcements about senior appointments are expected to follow in an orderly fashion over coming weeks.

In a radio broadcast on Saturday, president-elect Obama signalled that he intends to move quickly on a range of fronts immediately after his inauguration: "I want to ensure that we hit the ground running on January 20th because we don't have a moment to lose."

Mr Obama and his wife, Michelle, will travel from Chicago, where they have spent the days since the election, to Washington today to meet President Bush and his wife, Laura, for talks on the handover. Under Mr Bush's orders, his senior officials have already handed over voluminous files that have been in preparation for the last year on key policies to ensure that his successor "can get off to a quick start".

Given the size of the electoral mandate he enjoys, the new president has freedom to act on many fronts, but he will have to ensure that he does not act on too many at one time lest he suffer embarrassing defeats.

However, Mr Obama is still planning an ambitious agenda: "We can't afford to wait on moving forward on the key priorities that I identified during the campaign, including clean energy, health care, education and tax relief for middle-class families," he said on Saturday.

Senior Obama aides have already taken offices in the treasury department, where they are working alongside treasury secretary Henry Paulson as efforts continue to kick-start the US economy back into life.

John Podesta, who is co-chairing the Obama transition team, said the incoming administration was reviewing President Bush's orders on stem cell research, oil and gas drilling, and others matters that could be immediately reversed by decree.

Praising President Bush, Mr Podesta, who previously served as President Clinton's chief of staff, said the co-operation from the White House had "been excellent. We have had a collegial and co-operative relationship."

The director of national intelligence, Mike McConnell, has already briefed the incoming president, while national security agency staff are to hold meetings this week with Mr Obama's team.

 

[Monty]

You are kidding, right? Two men go into a room to talk one-on-one, no one else is there, it is obviously a private setting. The meeting was IMPLICITLY private, and it should have been obvious that the content of the conversation was private.

C'mon, FL. This was DUMB of Obama, no matter how you wish to rationalize it.

They'll be defending him as he marches us off into the camps

Monty

 

[Flippper]

Bush doesn't have the right to tell other people when they can talk. He's gotten to used to the idea that he does.

He should just not speak to people if he doesn't want to be quoted.

If he's running the local feed store and he's talking to a passing stranger, common sense would dictate the imprudence of such actions.

President Bush was speaking to the next President of the United States of America in his own home for G*d's sake. It illustrates a shocking lack of moral character on Obama's part to flap his gums.

Do I think back door deals are right? No. Do I think Columbia should have free trade status? No. This secret deal trading is part of how we are in the mess we are in today. But if Obama can't keep his mouth shut on big things, he has no business in office, he poses a monumental security risk. If his motivation was simply to make President Bush look bad, he's a childish idiot at best. President Bush can do that more skillfully and with more aplomb than Obama ever could.

The president didn't tell Obama not to talk, but he did show his irritation at the breach of protocol. O's supporter's said he can just get on-the-job training.

Obama's supporters really said that? After their main complaint about Mrs. Palin being that she was too inexperienced to be in the White House? What colossal hypocrites.

 

[Oilpatch Hand]

Bush doesn't have the right to tell other people when they can talk. He's gotten to used to the idea that he does.

He should just not speak to people if he doesn't want to be quoted.

Listen up, boys and girls...the foregoing is a prime example of what can happen to you if you fail to engage your brain before posting.

Please don't let this tragedy happen to you.

That will make for an unpleasant and dangerous transition I would expect.

The next two months should be putting politics aside for what's in the best interest of the country, Bush hasn't forgotten that and I expect Obama will never figure it out.

Monty

Well said and directly on the mark.

 

[breezyhill]

It's called decorum, FL. It may be expected that the conversations remain private, and he ignores it. That's certainly his perogative. It would be the president's perogative to have no more transition discussions, if Obama can't control himself.

The president didn't tell Obama not to talk, but he did show his irritation at the breach of protocol. O's supporter's said he can just get on-the-job training. In this particular episode, he just delivered himself a big box of FAIL. He'll either learn from it, or he won't. Other countries and world powers learned something from it, I assure you.END QUOTE


yeah. and when they hold obama's feet to the fire in some 2009 version of the Bay of Pigs, while he's in his on-the-job training, he'll blink. he's an appeaser.

at least carter had the "down-home" image, before he kow-towed to the arabs while they held our servicemen.

the 52 percenters elected for all of us a pig in a poke.

breezyhill

 

[fruit loop]

The president is a public servant and, with a few exceptions, shouldn't be saying anything that the American people don't have a right to hear.

They give up job-related privacy when they're elected.

Bush has gotten to used to secret memos, secret conversations, and no accountability.

 

[Navydad]

Sorry folks, please re-read my posts on this thread. For some reason as soon as I hit quote they posted without my message. I have since edited them.

Thanks

 

[breezyhill]

The president is a public servant and, with a few exceptions, shouldn't be saying anything that the American people don't have a right to hear.

They give up job-related privacy when they're elected.

Bush has gotten to used to secret memos, secret conversations, and no accountability.

once again, FL, you show very poor judgment.
breezyhill

 

[LONEWOLF]

Obama sycophants are doing contortions to "mis-understand" what's being presented and engage in weird circular "logic" to half-ass 'hexplain what's being done here. We aren't in Kansas anymore.....

 

[Monty]

The president is a public servant and, with a few exceptions, shouldn't be saying anything that the American people don't have a right to hear.

They give up job-related privacy when they're elected.

Bush has gotten to used to secret memos, secret conversations, and no accountability.

Exactly..it's still Bush's fault...keep singing it, won't be able to much longer and Obama will be in the big house and we'll see how he does when there is no one else to blame.



Monty

 

[Warthog]

King Bam-Bam and His Royal Posse. No class.

Telegraph, Telephone, Telebambam.

 

[Amazed]

I'd say Obama himself is the one who should be very upset about this. He apparently has some loose lips within his top aides and that is very dangerous for him.

 

[Seeker]

Being as how he was the only one who was one-on-one with Bush - and Bush didn't leak, who else did he tell all about the meeting? At this point, already, might not every world leader assess the prospects of possible future talks? And what an opportunity for MISinformation?

 

[Flippper]

The president is a public servant and, with a few exceptions, shouldn't be saying anything that the American people don't have a right to hear.

They give up job-related privacy when they're elected.

Bush has gotten to used to secret memos, secret conversations, and no accountability.

Fruit loop, they ALL have secret memos, secret conversations and of course no accountability-it's SECRET, nobody knows. Do I agree with this policy? No. Even our local governments do it. Closed door sessions.

Unfortunately certain conversations have to be secret for national security reasons, and because of blabber mouths and traitors the American people may have the right to hear it but would prefer not to in exchange for maintaining our freedom. There are things our leaders may need to know that our enemies do NOT in order to preserve our free society. I'm not speaking of the specific circumstance, but of principle. You're a smart girl, you grasp my meaning.

If Obama can't keep his mouth shut on minor issues, it stands to reason he won't be able to on larger ones, though I think being a LAWYER he's smarter than that. Or perhaps he only keeps his mouth shut when it serves him. Either way, it speaks volumes about his moral character. He ought to fit right in in D.C.

If your best friend did this to you, you'd be stomping about in righteous indignation, and rightly so. We expect more from someone who is supposed to be a world class leader. It should shake confidence in his ability to handle serious issues, he's failing in the minor ones.

 

[pugdog]

The president is a public servant and, with a few exceptions, shouldn't be saying anything that the American people don't have a right to hear.

They give up job-related privacy when they're elected.

Bush has gotten to used to secret memos, secret conversations, and no accountability.

Holy Cow!! What an ignorant statement.

We are not talking about exchanging cookie recipes here.

 

[Amberglass]

really, it's just another way of BO flipping someone the bird....

 

[Tesss]

Pugdog...

LOLOLOLOL
"We're not exactly exchanging cookie recipes here"

... hehehe... good reply!!!!

 

[maric]

Exactly..it's still Bush's fault...keep singing it, won't be able to much longer and Obama will be in the big house

Monty

Oh God from your fingers to God's ears! Cuff em & stuff em for a security breech. I love it!

 

[Oilpatch Hand]

The president is a public servant and, with a few exceptions, shouldn't be saying anything that the American people don't have a right to hear.

They give up job-related privacy when they're elected.

Bush has gotten to used to secret memos, secret conversations, and no accountability.

While the brain is still at the dry cleaners, the fingers still type madly...

 

[gunnersmom]

This calls to mind the phone chat he had with the Canadian official and also makes me wonder why the conversations he had with Mid East leaders during the world tour were held so private. Something's rubbing me the wrong way.

 

[SouthernGal]

And enjoying it immensely!

 

[Y2kO]

"Bush indicated at the meeting that he might support some aid and a broader economic stimulus package if Obama and congressional Democrats dropped their opposition to a free-trade agreement with Colombia,"

Yeah, we got to get that cocaine in here. It's big profits for the Bush cartel.

 

[denfoote]

Treason poll.

How long is it gonna be before Obama leaks top secret intel to our enemies??
I think he's already done it!!

 

[Kadee]

How long is it gonna be before Obama leaks top secret intel to our enemies??
I think he's already done it!!

Well, if he hasn't, surely we can count on 100 aides to maybe let the cat (or coke) out of the bag, on the first shipment out of Peru?


YES WE CAN !!!

XOXO

 

[MaureenO]

Bush doesn't have the right to tell other people when they can talk. He's gotten to used to the idea that he does.

He should just not speak to people if he doesn't want to be quoted.

If they are confidential briefings, it is required they remain confidential. Obama knows this.

Maureen

 

[MaureenO]

Oh, and BTW, some jihadist boards are already talking about this.

Maureen

 

[Trivium Pursuit]

Reinforces what I'm hearing about BO being a Chicago machine politician. Expect treason, unpunished.

 

[kozanne]

Telegraph, Telephone, Telebambam.

 

[kozanne]

How long is it gonna be before Obama leaks top secret intel to our enemies??
I think he's already done it!!

Isn't he going to bomb Pockystan? No, it's Pocky-Stahn.

 

[kozanne]

Oh, and BTW, some jihadist boards are already talking about this.

Maureen

10-4. For once, I have to say the splodeydopes are a helluva lot smarter than we are right about now!

 

[Warthog]

I'd say Obama himself is the one who should be very upset about this. He apparently has some loose lips within his top aides and that is very dangerous for him.

Rahm Emanual was one of the worst leakers for the Clintons, now he's right back up there in the same position.

 

[Worrier King]

"Bush indicated at the meeting that he might support some aid and a broader economic stimulus package if Obama and congressional Democrats dropped their opposition to a free-trade agreement with Colombia," claimed the TIMES.

Friggin Bush Jr....doing the globalists bidding against the sovereign nation right to the very end.

And friggin Obama would do well to heed friggin Bush Jr.s advice about "keeping close counsel".

Friggin Clinton gave China and the Russians a space program with his slack oversight on matters (and documents) of confidentiality. Now you have Chinese space walks.

 

[SouthernGal]

10-4. For once, I have to say the splodeydopes are a helluva lot smarter than we are right about now!

Well yeah. He's their candidate. And a majority of Americans just handed him the greatest power on earth.

 

[Monkeywrench]

No Book of Secrets for you!!!

Monty

blaming bush and the neocons will only work so long. welcome to the real obama- or should i say pelosi/clinton neoliberals....

 

[Laurane]

Isn't he going to bomb Pockystan? No, it's Pocky-Stahn.

Sounds like there are some "aides" or their leader, who are playing "I've got a Secret" - George just told me something I am not s'posed to tell - but if you twist my arm a bit, maybe I'll give you a hint"

Just like little kids with a new toy.......

 

[SassyinAZ]

This calls to mind the phone chat he had with the Canadian official and also makes me wonder why the conversations he had with Mid East leaders during the world tour were held so private. Something's rubbing me the wrong way.

Probably for the same reason his hamas chats were held close, afraid they'd be used by the McCain campaign and impact the election.

Hamas -- We met Obama advisors: http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?t=310824

 

[ofuzzy1]

As impled if he can't be mum with a minor talks, how much will world leaders open up?

This one 'leak' will probably bite US in so many unknown ways for the next 4 years.

 

[corona]

come on loop

My point is, did they agree on confidentiality beforehand? Or did Bush just assume?

I don't expect my conversations with others to remain private unless I have specifically requested the friend's confidence. Otherwise they have every right to repeat anything I say, and I'm a fool to say it out loud if I don't want it known.

Loop... quit making excuses for the guy....He,s a chicago politico thug...www.freerepublic.com learn about political manners