GB Appling
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I think they will load us all into cattle cars before the weather kills us.
Oh, but you can do something. In this case, you spend just a couple of hours online (a lot easier than using libraries like I used to do) and look up the climate in your area during the last several low oscillation periods. The ones from 1600 onward will be the most used in North America. The worst period was about the time of the Revolutionary War (remember Washington crossing the nearly frozen river and his men dying in the snow?). That goes through about the 1830s and then starts to improve. Before that, you'll be stuck with a combination of educated scientific guesses (go to the sites that talk about the ice core and tree ring records) along with any of that great Native American lore you can get that is close to your area.Sigh…the native Americans used to say the Great Lakes would drain down the Ohio Valley…I trust their thoughts farther than those pushin man made crap any day…then I look at what I can do about any of the threats…not a dang thing but hold on for the wild ride…thx b I had common sense grandparents n parents to drill stuff in the noggin…
and, if the climate cools there is less evaporation from the ocean so less rain. So cooler and drier. Melodi am I correct on this ?? ThanksOh, but you can do something. In this case, you spend just a couple of hours online (a lot easier than using libraries like I used to do) and look up the climate in your area during the last several low oscillation periods. The ones from 1600 onward will be the most used in North America. The worst period was about the time of the Revolutionary War (remember Washington crossing the nearly frozen river and his men dying in the snow?). That goes through about the 1830s and then starts to improve. Before that, you'll be stuck with a combination of educated scientific guesses (go to the sites that talk about the ice core and tree ring records) along with any of that great Native American lore you can get that is close to your area.
For most of the Northern US, your biggest concern will be a common-sense understanding that Winters may be longer and growing seasons shorter. Summers may not be much cooler, but they may be milder and shorter. The South West and even parts of Southern California may become unlivable without water desalination or other modern water-finding methods. The first three European colonies in Los Angeles (New Spain) in the early fifteen and sixteen hundred died of thirst. Some South-Western Native Americans had to leave their homes on the cliff tops and move down into the less secure areas because their water ran out higher up.
But after a couple of evenings of looking into this, you can settle in and maybe order seeds you might want if the climate changes where you are. Look at weatherizing your house or putting in wood-burning stoves like we did (and you have done already). Then sit back and watch the news. I also ordered some long wool underwear from Denmark this year, and we already do a lot of knitting and textile work, so we don't need extra.
Not big things just awareness and buying some things we will use anyway, but might need for longer periods of time if the Winters go back to the way they were when the house was built.
I think it depends on where you are, a lot of climate is local, especially when it comes to growing crops and the exact local conditions. The UK and Ireland tend to get cold and snowy Winters, but possibly with more dry air (I'd have to check). Again in Europe and The Eastern Seaboard, that ocean current dramatically changes things.and, if the climate cools there is less evaporation from the ocean so less rain. So cooler and drier. Melodi am I correct on this ?? Thanks
But after a couple of evenings of looking into this, you can settle in and maybe order seeds you might want if the climate changes where you are. Look at weatherizing your house or putting in wood-burning stoves like we did (and you have done already). Then sit back and watch the news. I also ordered some long wool underwear from Denmark this year, and we already do a lot of knitting and textile work, so we don't need extra.
There are lots of warm weather plants in the Austin area. In that week long ice event in 2021, a buttload of foliage (including palms) were killed.
But in the dusty old farm annals from the 5th to the 10th century or so in Ireland, there are reports of weathers so harsh the snow came in October and stayed until April and other Winters that were so mild that it never got cold. In both cases, they say: "And many men and cattle died." They either froze to death (and had no food) or died of diseases because it never got cold enough to keep all those dang bugs we get every summer.Snow lasting more than 2 days here would be a harsh winter,
The winter here is very mild because of Atlantic conveyor,
But in the dusty old farm annals from the 5th to the 10th century or so in Ireland, there are reports of weathers so harsh the snow came in October and stayed until April and other Winters that were so mild that it never got cold. In both cases, they say: "And many men and cattle died." They either froze to death (and had no food) or died of diseases because it never got cold enough to keep all those dang bugs we get every summer.
That book is a dusty old tome, but valuable if you live on this Island and want to learn about the local climate - which is pretty much that almost anything except extreme heat is "normal" for a period of years, and by excessive heat, I mean 90 degrees F or above.
Yes , thats what makes me laugh when they say things like Hottest June on record or warmest Jan since records began , they mean the official meteorological records going back to the mid 1800's not the thousands of years old info in Trinity Library etc.
The National University holds important Irish archives, things like "The Trinity Harp," and thousands of books. Similar to the Cambridge Library. Trinity also has the original Book of Kells and similar documents, including the Irish Farming anals. I read them in translation (not all) in an excellent book about them by a historian specializing in ancient and early modern Irish agriculture. I also have a friend getting a degree in early Irish foods at Trinity College, who knows them much better than I do. I think he can read some of it in the original Irish.Trinity Library?
Trinity Library?
What Mel said, founded in 1592, its also the national archives of Ireland , and the copyright archive for published works
Thanks, will have to check this out!
Thanks MelodiI think it depends on where you are, a lot of climate is local, especially when it comes to growing crops and the exact local conditions. The UK and Ireland tend to get cold and snowy Winters, but possibly with more dry air (I'd have to check). Again in Europe and The Eastern Seaboard, that ocean current dramatically changes things.
I know that in the 14th century, the early change periods were the more dramatic, with climate swinging wildly back and forth. With giant windstorms, rains, droughts; unpredictable weather (or growing seasons) for a few years (like the 1320s), when going into something like this; followed by more excellent stability but with changed conditions (long-snowy winters, short but often hot summers) once things settle into the new pattern.
Things were made much worse in the Migration Age/Dark Age period (and not mentioned in the article), but at least, if not two, dramatic volcanic explosions that were so bad the sun didn't shine for two years! That was recorded in 536 from Greece to China. In that climatic change, many European people had to move south because the storms and flooding in the north washed their lands and homes away. The weather was violent, forcing people to move south or die. Hence the Barbarian Invasions...
The Sun is in the throes of a micronova, which happens about every 12,000 years, and the last major solar event that happened about 6,000 years ago covered the earth in water! So in a nut shell none of this matters, it's all going to burn anyway, cause nothing survives a nova, not even a micro nova. The poles will flip, there will be no place to hide.
Magnetic equator perhaps, but not the physical equator. And the earth’s crust isn’t going to shift. At least not and have mankind survive to tell the tale. And gps renders magnetic poles superfluous.if the poles did flip and the earth's crust shift as Ben and others have hypothesized, with the new north pole being the region of the bay of Bengal, then, if you use Google earth to set things that way, mid north America will be at the equator afterwards.
Magnetic equator perhaps, but not the physical equator. And the earth’s crust isn’t going to shift. At least not and have mankind survive to tell the tale. And gps renders magnetic poles superfluous.
what else can explain the instantly frozen mammoths found in Siberia with undigested vegetation from the temperate zone in their stomachs?Magnetic equator perhaps, but not the physical equator. And the earth’s crust isn’t going to shift. At least not and have mankind survive to tell the tale. And gps renders magnetic poles superfluous.