CRISIS ARE THINGS GOING TO CRITICAL MASS? 6-10-2014

[Doomer Doug]

Doomer Doug is starting to wonder if we have now entered a collapse phase in several different categories?

The first area is economic, both on a global and USA basis. Over the last several days there have been stories about a "slowdown in the USA." We had a story about the collapse of the velocity of money. We had other stories related to multiple millions of American citizens now part of a permanent underclass.

The second area refers to the environmental area. Fukushima continues to radiate the planet completely unchecked and ignored by the mainstream media.

The third area relates to what Doomer Doug can only call the total collapse of the US government's ability to police its borders. Thousands of unescorted children are apparently pouring over our borders and being bussed, by the US government, to Arizona.

The fourth area is the ongoing chaos in the Ukraine, the start of a new "Cold War." And now we have the total and complete failure of the Iraq War. We also have the "Syrian Civil War" now going to a regional level with the seizure of Mosul. This puts a lot of things in play in the Mideast.

Now, Doomer Doug looks at the sum total of all the above, taking into account Synergy, and asks the question: Have we reached critical mass in the USA?

 

[Vegas321]

Doomer Doug, As we circle the drain, it goes faster and faster. National and World reports of violence and economic collapse seem to come every day, and some cases, by the hour. Can't say IF this is the final stage but it sure darn feels like it, don't it?

The past two weeks, humanity has seemed to spiral out of control.

 

[Sammy55]

Doomer Doug, As we circle the drain, it goes faster and faster. National and World reports of violence and economic collapse seem to come every day, and some cases, by the hour. Can't say IF this is the final stage but it sure darn feels like it, don't it?

The past two weeks, humanity has seemed to spiral out of control.

I agree. Things are going out of control faster and faster, and we can watch it minute by minute and miss a lot of it.

 

[Tristan]

Doomer Doug is starting to wonder if we have now entered a collapse phase in several different categories?

The first area is economic, both on a global and USA basis. Over the last several days there have been stories about a "slowdown in the USA." We had a story about the collapse of the velocity of money. We had other stories related to multiple millions of American citizens now part of a permanent underclass.

The second area refers to the environmental area. Fukushima continues to radiate the planet completely unchecked and ignored by the mainstream media.

The third area relates to what Doomer Doug can only call the total collapse of the US government's ability to police its borders. Thousands of unescorted children are apparently pouring over our borders and being bussed, by the US government, to Arizona.

The fourth area is the ongoing chaos in the Ukraine, the start of a new "Cold War." And now we have the total and complete failure of the Iraq War. We also have the "Syrian Civil War" now going to a regional level with the seizure of Mosul. This puts a lot of things in play in the Mideast.

Now, Doomer Doug looks at the sum total of all the above, taking into account Synergy, and asks the question: Have we reached critical mass in the USA?

I'll comment on the bolded bit above - it's not that the Govt. has lost it's ability to police the border, it's that it's lost it's desire.

 

[PilotFighter]

Please just let us make it till the end of the year. That way I will be healed up, and gone from Bama.

 

[doctor_fungcool]

Who who knows what EVIL lurks in the hearts of men?

Mankind is still in the process of evolution. Presently, many of us are still mired in the 'animal' stage
on the evolutionary ladder.

SUMMITVILLE, TN (WSMV) -

New information is emerging after a man was charged with murdering a woman over the weekend in a rural part of Coffee County.

Sheriff Steve Graves said 37-year-old Gregory Scott Hale is charged with first-degree murder and abuse of a corpse in connection with the death, which occurred at Hale's residence on Pete Sain Road in the Summitville area.

Officials say the victim has been identified as Lisa Marie Hyder of DeKalb County.

"Lisa was a sweet girl, very pretty girl. I can't believe anyone would want to do that to her," said friend Vicki Keenan.

According to an affidavit, Hale admitted to the murder. He told investigators he dismembered Hyder's body and buried her torso in a burn pile at his home. He also admitted to eating part of the victim after murdering her.

I am guessing here, but I'm thinking that a huge chuck of our population is certifiable. The cops already know this, and that's why, in my opinion, they are becoming trigger happy. We don't know why so many in our population are mentally ill. Whatever the reason, it's enough for all reasonable people NOT to flip off the driver who just cut you off. When and if the implosion occurs, living in here will be a living hell.

 

[MidnightTide]

Surprised that no one is writing about this, but it seems that Iraqi is falling apart and falling into rebels hands....

Iraq PM calls emergency after Mosul seized

The Iraqi prime minister has called for a national state of emergency after the city of Mosul and parts of the northern province of Nineveh fell to al-Qaeda-inspired fighters.Nouri al-Maliki said on Tuesday that he would ask parliament to declare the emergency after the overnight takeoverby the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant.




http://m.aljazeera.com/story/2014610121410596821



The Iraqi army is simply running away and throwing off their uniforms:

Leaving their equipment (given to them by the US), rebels inspecting their loot:

Oh, they stopped at a few banks, stealing 500 Billion dinar. Now it is being reported they are on their way to Baghdad, with no one stopping them.

 

[Melodi]

I am not sure, but what I find in some ways the most worrying is an under reported story (but we got it over here) that 37 percent of the US that is of workforce age, is unemployed. Now even if you take out say ten percent of that or so, for people who really don't want to work (because they are actually working caring for an elderly relative, going to school part time, living on a self-contained homestead etc) you still have 1/4 or more of the potential, adult working population, unemployed.

I was unable to find out if this figure included the disabled but I don't think it did (someone else may be able to verify this, I think the figures were for people who could potentially hold jobs); at some point the "fiction" that unemployed people no longer getting unemployment benefits are "not looking for work" and the REAL unemployment numbers will become obvious even if the Ministry for Truth says otherwise.

It simply isn't sustainable to have a first world, functional, modern country when at last one quarter or more of the adult population is unable to find employment and that doesn't even count the huge numbers of people who are underemployed. Yes they may have a job for 25 hours a week, but that isn't enough to even live independently much less support a family; some of those workers may want to work part time for various reasons but my guess is that a lot of them are simply stuck in the situation. This comes up a lot in the service and retail industries and not always because the employer is a jerk either (though sometimes that is the case) often it is just the need for more workers at peak times and less during the slower hours of the day or the season.

That combined with all the other issues, is making things look pretty grim, I am not sure collapse is just around the corner but an attempt at a large war would not surprise me in the least - all those jobs you know (in the military and making arms for all sides)...*sigh*

 

[Hansa44]

DD...this is NOT meant as a snide remark...but we have been going through critical mass now for at least 20+ years.

My parents stocked up on tons of storage food and gold and silver in the 70's because it looked like we were going critical mass.

They both passed on at least 10 yrs ago and never used any of their stash. Neither food nor pm's.

Maybe we are again headed into critical mass and it sure looks like, but then it always looks like it.

I'm getting better at just riding the wave. Took some doing but I'm learning.

 

[Hacker]

I notice that gold, silver, and the dollar were all up today. And the dollar's been up for a while now . . .

. . . . . safe haven, anyone?

 

[Outofmydepth]

There is a huge amount of dissonance between the doom on this forum and the reality most people live in. The problem is that it's a false and fragile reality. It will be interesting to watch the activity on this forum surge as the doom closes in on that false reality. I think we're seeing the beginnings of that now.

 

[Echo 5]

Things have, without a doubt, significantly escalated since Memorial Day. Only God knows what is next.

 

[Be Well]

Doomer Doug is starting to wonder if we have now entered a collapse phase in several different categories?

The first area is economic, both on a global and USA basis. Over the last several days there have been stories about a "slowdown in the USA." We had a story about the collapse of the velocity of money. We had other stories related to multiple millions of American citizens now part of a permanent underclass.

The second area refers to the environmental area. Fukushima continues to radiate the planet completely unchecked and ignored by the mainstream media.

The third area relates to what Doomer Doug can only call the total collapse of the US government's ability to police its borders. Thousands of unescorted children are apparently pouring over our borders and being bussed, by the US government, to Arizona.

The fourth area is the ongoing chaos in the Ukraine, the start of a new "Cold War." And now we have the total and complete failure of the Iraq War. We also have the "Syrian Civil War" now going to a regional level with the seizure of Mosul. This puts a lot of things in play in the Mideast.

Now, Doomer Doug looks at the sum total of all the above, taking into account Synergy, and asks the question: Have we reached critical mass in the USA?

Everything except Fuku was/is engineered by 0bastard/his handlers.

 

[Codeno]

Maybe we are again headed into critical mass and it sure looks like, but then it always looks like it.

I'm getting better at just riding the wave. Took some doing but I'm learning.

Bold type mine, above.

Yeah, us too Hansa. My family has been prepping for so long that it's just a lifestyle now, rather than an urgency to beat the coming doom.

I was just thinking of the Richard Farina title, "Been Down So Long It Looks Like Up To Me".

Maybe "Things Been At Critical Mass and I've Been Preppin' So Long Things Look Fine To Me" applies here, at least a bit.

Wearin' my tinfoil hat and my rose colored glasses.

Good advice, ride the wave.

 

[Bensam]

Have we reached critical mass in the USA?

Not yet but damn if we aren't fast tracking to that position.........

 

[coloradohermit]

Don't know if we've reached critical mass, but I do believe that if there is a trigger to ignite things if and when we do, it'll be food prices/availability.

 

[JohnGaltfla]

Starting to DD. I think September-October is the most terrifying time we may witness.

Of course there is something big happening next week.......

 

[Echo 5]

Of course there is something big happening next week.......

All-you-can-eat Enchilada night?

 

[doctor_fungcool]

Starting to DD. I think September-October is the most terrifying time we may witness.

Of course there is something big happening next week.......

Anything could happen at anytime........given the proper circumstances. Concerning the financial stability of the country, I agree with John......except I'll add the month of August into the mix.
We are ripe for an economic and social implosion. I really don't know how one would prepare for something like this, since hoards of folks would cause waves of panic throughout the whole system.
A person would have to be almost isolated somewhere in order to survive. Large population centers are toast. Economic instability, combined with the obvious insanity of many folks, is a formula for chaos.

NOTE: I feel(my opinion), that a large percentage of Americans may have a few toys
missing from their collective attics. When bellies are hungry, and there's no money for food,
people can become stark....raving.....mad.

 

[JohnGaltfla]

All-you-can-eat Enchilada night?

I've entered another 5 day fishing tournament off the Keys. Of course nothing bad ever happens when I'm on a boat:

2008 (sailing) Stock market 500 points Lock Limit Down in Futures at 3 am...

2012 (fishing tournament) Supreme Court drops Obamacare decision

Heck, on some small 1-2 day trips all kinds of things have happened.....If I don't come back we kept on sailing south towards the Windwards.....

 

[jed turtle]

this thread is interesting to me because most of last nite i was thinking about how quickly the muslims could take over this country, or at least throw it into chaos and upheaval. the more i thought about it, the more i realized that our "leaders" have set us up for exactly this outcome. and the only reason i can arrive at this treachery is that that is the only path to a one world society/government. "order out of chaos". must be arriving soon...

 

[Possible Impact]

Prompt-critical conditions, "as in the days of Noah."
Remove the moderating influence of God's protective hand on this nation, and decay will cascade...

 

[Doomer Doug]

My point is with a name like Doomer Doug, well I guess I HAVE to take the most negative view of what is going on right now. LOL

At any rate, and this is just my own personal subjective feeling, we saw a total unleashing of a whole series of incredible events in the last 90 days, especially in the last month or so.

The events are so separate they seem to be unrelated. The impact of them has been way beyond what each individual event should have caused. This is called Synergy. Synergy is the scientific principle where 2 and 2 equals 5 and not 4. The specific types of events are well known to us in terms of type. I am saying that although the events are "normal" and we have seen them before, it is the total impact of them that is new.

My view is the USA people and government are at a new level of social chaos for a lot of reasons. In the last 30 days, we have traded five terrorists to get back one deserter/traitor. We have seen a TOTAL COLLAPSE of the US border security with the complete support of the current, Obama, US government.

We have seen ethnic cleansing in the Ukraine. We have seen many examples of the kinds of war crimes more common to World War Two in Europe. We have had several stories that indicate the TRUE nature of the so called "American Economic Recovery."

My basic point is when you factor in all this, even if the actual events are "normal" you get more than you bargained for. I use the term critical mass, which is also a scientific term. It means once you reach a certain and exact point, things start to happen that are not directly linked to the original event. This may refer to scope, scale and size. It may also refer to other events that start to happen independent of the first event.

For example, the "event" is the Militant Islamic ISIS takeover of a large chunk of Iraq. The spiral includes arms seizures, including advanced helicopters. This one single part of the larger event will have further independent results in addition to the original event. As you go down the event timeline of what you "expect" to happen, you enter into the chaos theory, or Mr. Murphy.

By the way, the military collapse in Mosul closely resembles the March, 1975 final offensive by North Vietnam. It started with bungled orders from Thieu that generated a military rout. It ended up with the fleeing of South Vietnam's elite. They ended up hanging off of US helicopter skids and being airlifted off the embassy roof.

I am definitely getting a sense the chaos has been unleashed in Iraq. Iran may very well send in direct military support for their Shia puppet state. And if they do that, well you start a whole series of ongoing and unexpected events, responses and results from that. This is why I think critical mass is the correct term to use.

 

[RJC]

Maybe it’s in the eye of the beholder.

Certainly crime is increasing and the moral condition is devolving but who does not have their new Nikes? Lots of social changes as socialism takes over the world. Lots of wars and human tragedy and at a greater pace then before in history. However the populations are greater than ever before and the greed for power and wealth is more prominent if for no reason than greater population. Divine revelation tells us to expect what we are seeing. There is reason for joy not apprehension and anxiety.

Went searching for some material in neighboring town and was amazed at the volume of commercial and multi-unit construction along with highway and bridge construction. So I got to checking around and it is surprising how much is happening economically. Big commercial and residential projects and lots of very high end residential.

Went to have some stainless steel fabricated and was told they were so busy it was more than 2 weeks out. Had two compressors needing repaired and was told they would be 4 to 6 weeks, 50 jobs in front of me. Son is trying to have an RV manufactured and was told they are still back logged 4 months later.

City has tens of millions of dollars of new equipment and vehicles. Many towns around are building local power sources. 10 billion dollar train rail being constructed. Bankers have so much money and can’t find places to place their funds.

It just might be the have nots have less and the haves have more.

Had some Mexican workers brokered to me and all drove new or almost new cars. The “wives” prospering to the tune of about $60,000 per year through social programs and the Men work cash and line their pockets having little expenses.

Times are good for some people!

 

[Petunia]

I'll comment on the bolded bit above - it's not that the Govt. has lost it's ability to police the border, it's that it's lost it's desire.

IMHO the govt refuses to police the border and enforce immigration laws that are on the books.

 

[marsh]

In our reordering of a sustainable and equitable social structure, what is left of the middle class will be moving closer to the old European model. Three to four generations will live in the same house. Couples will wait until their thirties to save enough to marry. We will return to the one spouse wage earners of the pre-1950 era. We will consume much less. Our families will be smaller. We will seldom travel.

That is with the exception of the "gamers." Living on the system, there will be incentives for larger families.

 

[Dobbin]

IMHO the govt refuses to police the border and enforce immigration laws that are on the books.

I think otherwise known as "Undocumented Democrats."

And a symptom of the problem in having one branch of government in the hands of one party.

Heh. If the Repubs were in office, it would be some other "otherwise known as."

In the case of the Bush Administration, the otherwise known as was "friends of the connected." You have the same problem now, except the friends of connected are different friends.

And truthfully, neither of these groups of friends would you want to invite to a barn dance.

The solution? Limit the power of government. Enforce the Constitution and its separation of state and business, state and religion, state and personal being. It's when either or both parties get to "carve out" their empire from any of these that we have problems.

Like now.

Limit the power and you limit the damage to any or all three.

But not there anymore now.

Dobbin

 

[Flippper]

I'll comment on the bolded bit above - it's not that the Govt. has lost it's ability to police the border, it's that it's lost it's desire.

I'll comment on your comment...it's not the government, it's the traitors within it, who have not lost their desire to police the border, but in fact are purposely opening the southern borders and closing the northern border (where I live). It's by design.

 

[dstraito]

I was trying to think why all these kids were coming in all of a sudden and it dawned on me, The Dims wanted to grant amnesty to all these illegals because they were betting it was a sure thing that all those new minted legals would vote the Dimocratic way. Then the Stupid party threw a fit and the American people divided on the issue and it looked like the amnesty thing was dead in the water.

So some genius came up with a plan, let's get a bunch of kids over here without there parents, who could throw a kid out, and it may take a decade but surely we could get all those kids amnesty, after all, it's for the KIDS, sob.

So it may take a little longer but seems to be there will be a steady stream coming across our borders, yeah, those same borders they decided didn't need a complete fence.

 

[SAPPHIRE]

All the children....legal and illegal.......are the future "eyes to spy" on everyone and everything.........train them up to think the state is their god.......and you'll have little hitlers everywhere............

 

[bluetick]

On another thread regarding those "children" coming over the border in massive numbers, it noted many/most were 15 to 17 years old. Guess how much education they have as they approach working age. How many ditch diggers do we need?

A story in a local newspaper indicated the high school graduation rate in CA is about 80%. The 20% with no HS diploma are going to be hard pressed to find gainful employment.

 

[Millwright]

On another thread regarding those "children" coming over the border in massive numbers, it noted many/most were 15 to 17 years old. Guess how much education they have as they approach working age. How many ditch diggers do we need?

A story in a local newspaper indicated the high school graduation rate in CA is about 80%. The 20% with no HS diploma are going to be hard pressed to find gainful employment.

What does it matter?

They can join the Free-Shit army and live on Government Cheese.

For the Marxists, education = less is more......................votes.

 

[Ben Sunday]

The chaos in Ukraine.

The ongoing financial malaise and. in some cases, coma. High energy and unemployment.

The loss of the will of the Fedgov to secure, manage and further the fundamental concepts of this nation.

Borders, Borders, Borders.

The increasingly obvious rogue nature of the Fedgov and those who are allegedly in charge. I would highlight this with a question: MRAPS anyone?

I hesitate to jump on the term "critical mass". Yet, fwiw, I certainly believe we as a nation are increasingly vulnerable. I further believe that much of this vulnerability (see the above list of selections) is being dumped upon us deliberately in order to further the dynastic political wet dreams of those who no longer favor America, its goals, values or liberties.

The frustration of watching the house of cards crumble day by day with nobody raising an effective reply is depressing and tragic for whatever future remains for America as we have known it.

 

[summerthyme]

On another thread regarding those "children" coming over the border in massive numbers, it noted many/most were 15 to 17 years old. Guess how much education they have as they approach working age. How many ditch diggers do we need?

A story in a local newspaper indicated the high school graduation rate in CA is about 80%. The 20% with no HS diploma are going to be hard pressed to find gainful employment.

Except that AT LEAST HALF of the "80%" who do graduate are functionally illiterate and also numerically illiterate. IOW, they don't have the skills to even fill out an application to work at McDonalds.

We really are heading RAPIDLY to a two tier society- a small minority who are functional, literate and whose taxes are supporting the VERY large majority. I can't see that lasting long. Going Galt, anyone?

Summerthyme

 

[etc]

There is a huge amount of dissonance between the doom on this forum and the reality most people live in. The problem is that it's a false and fragile reality. It will be interesting to watch the activity on this forum surge as the doom closes in on that false reality. I think we're seeing the beginnings of that now.

+one

 

[smokin]

74 school shootings in the past 77 weeks.

Going out on a limb here but recall the " Washington insider " saying what the powers that be have in store for us was evil to the core and they had no problem using Americans as collateral damage. Could this be part of it ?

By the way Doug, people in my area are strung pretty tight and it doesn't take much to set them off lately. Times are not getting better for most. We are getting close here in the U.S and worldwide.

 

[smokin]

Something like this.

 

[Possible Impact]

zerohedge @zerohedge · 1m
It Was A Reeeeeally Bad Winter:
JPM Cuts Q1 GDP From -1.1% To -1.6%
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-11/it-was-reeeeeally-bad-winter-jpm-cuts-q1-gdp-11-16
… pic.twitter.com/qRfYQAVUSL



^^^ Expect Q2 GDP to "revise down" to similar levels.

 

[Hfcomms]

The philosophy I've developed is pretty simple. When it happens, it happens. Until it happens, it hasn't happened yet. Got off the constant doom wagon several years ago. You have to stay in balance. A lot of preppers have gotten burned out because they don't know how to pace themselves for the long run. It's a marathon and not a sprint. Back in 2000 after we 'survived' Y2K I wouldn't of given us a chance in hades of making it to 2005 without the spam hitting the fan. And now in 2014 I have grave doubts of us making it to Christmas intact. We just keep swirling the bowl but the whirlpool is tightening up. I wouldn't be surprised if it all comes apart next week or next month but I try to keep playing the game like it's going to go a few years yet. Every day that it doesn't happen is a gift from above and just gives us yet more time to get all our ducks in a row. Truly no man knows the day or hour of Christ's return and trying to guess the 'day' of the collapse you have about as much success.

 

[Doat]

Time to make some glass?