ALERT When Russia invades Ukraine what will USA do?

What will the USA do?

  • Nothing

    Votes: 85 40.3%

  • Send military supplies & ammo to Ukraine

    Votes: 15 7.1%

  • Economic & Political sanctions against Russia

    Votes: 84 39.8%

  • Send American troops or warplanes to defend Ukraine

    Votes: 10 4.7%

  • Nuke war within a couple of weeks of Russian invasion

    Votes: 4 1.9%

  • Other; please explain in thread. Thanks

    Votes: 13 6.2%
  • Total voters
    211
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Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
Well someone's talking about the direwolf in the corner everyone else wants to ignore.....

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Sen. Wicker: Don’t Rule Out Hitting Russia With Nukes, Ground Troops

U.S. Sen. Roger Wicker, the second-highest ranking Republican on the Senate Armed Services Committee, said the United States cannot rule out any options for responding to Russian aggression in Ukraine—including sending in ground troops or even a nuclear strike.
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Sen. Wicker: Don’t Rule Out Attacking Russia With Nukes, Ground Troops
U.S. Sen. Roger Wicker, the second-highest ranking Republican on the Senate Armed Services Committee, said the United States cannot rule out any options for responding to Russian aggression in Ukraine—including sending in ground troops or even a nuclear strike.

“Military action could mean that we stand off with our ships in the Black Sea, and we rain destruction on Russian military capability,” Mississippi’s senior senator said during an interview with Fox News host Neil Cavuto today. “It could mean that. It could mean that we participate, and I would not rule that out, I would not rule out American troops on the ground. We don’t rule out first use nuclear action.”

Wicker did not call for the use of such measures, however. The remarks came as President Joe Biden held talks with European allies regarding Russia’s latest buildup of military on the border with Ukraine. In 2014, Russia invaded and annexed Ukraine’s Crimean Peninsula.

The senator’s office did not offer comment on his remarks today, but an aide did direct this reporter to a separate interview he did with CNN this afternoon for additional context. In that interview, Wicker did not advocate for ground troops or a nuclear strike, but told CNN host Ana Cabrera that he hoped Biden “didn’t rule out anything” when it comes to Russia and Ukraine.

“I think the thing to do is not take anything off the table,” the senator said. “You know, when it comes to our nuclear policy, if you’ll recall, we don’t take things off the table there. We make it clear that every option is open. That’s been a policy of Democrats and Republicans, administration in and administration out.

“As a matter of fact, U.S. National Guard troops from California are present in Ukraine today. The California National Guard and the Ukrainian military have a partnership so there are uniformed American servicemen present there today just as there are Mississippi troops in some of our other allies in the former Soviet Union states.”

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During a two-hour secure video call today, Biden warned Russian President Vladimir Putin that any further military incursion on Ukraine’s sovereignty would be met with “strong economic and other measures,” a White House readout of the conversation said.

“President Biden reiterated his support for Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity and called for de-escalation and a return to diplomacy,” the White House continued. “The two presidents tasked their teams to follow up, and the U.S. will do so in close coordination with allies and partners.”

Unlike Wicker, the Democratic president did not mention nuclear weapons or ground troops. In a later call, a separate White House readout said, Biden briefed European leaders on his call with the Russian president and “discussed the serious consequences of Russian military action in Ukraine and the need to de-escalate and return to diplomacy.”

In 2020, U.S. relations with Ukraine and foreign aid to help the country ward off Russian aggression took center stage in former President Donald Trump’s first impeachment trial. Trump stood accused of attempting to extort Ukraine’s president into helping him attack Biden’s credibility with false allegations. Wicker voted to acquit Trump during that trial and did so again when Trump faced incitement of insurrection charges in 2021.
 
jward

jward

passin' thru
Not clear, if it matters, and I'm sure it does to the families involved, which NG units are actually over there-

I thought it was floridas, who'd just taken over for WA. Hopefully not too many of ours are serving as targets, particularly with the likes of wickers' comments. One assumes MS doesn't have any treasure there, and that he gets a nice bit o' change from the MIC himself:
 
SouthernBreeze

SouthernBreeze

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Did anyone watch Tucker Carlson last night? His guest was a military general, I believe, and he was explaining just how close to war we are with Russia over the situation in Ukraine. Not only are the Democrats calling for the US to intervene, but top Republicans, too. My own Mississippi Republican Senator, Roger Wicker, is pushing for nukes on Russia if they invade Ukraine. He's not the only one. I didn't get that all "warm and fuzzy" feeling while watching the show.

So, who knows what the US will do if Russia invades. Nor, what Russia will do in retaliation if we mess with their business.
 
33dInd

33dInd

Veteran Member
I think its all pablem from the talking heads.
We will do nothng or less than nothing but talk.
 
O

Oreally

Right from the start
Dennis Olson said:
AlfaMan, there is absolutely NO WAY that the US would go after Russia unilaterally. Also, there is absolutely NO WAY that the NATO countries would agree to defend Ukraine. The only possibility for that country would be a UN declaration supporting armed intervention. And that, sir, is already dead and buried.

Also, about four years ago, I posted that my mentor at one of my assignments was Russian. His father was a big-time businessman who had extensive dealings in Ukraine. The father reported back that the citizens of Ukraine were desperate to have russia take them back over, because since they originally separated, they’ve been ruled by crooks. They know that Russia would at least rule honestly.

In short, the Ukrainian people strongly support the “invasion.” The “crisis” is entirely manufactured by the (surprise) western MSM.
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not true. at least in the west.

every singe person i have asked about all this -lots of people! - man, woman and child is adamantly nationalistic and hate, fear, scorn, the 'rus' and everything associated with them, and their history. and very proud that ukraine is a single country for the first time in 1000 years.

yes, the government is dis organized and most civil system are 'corrupt', but every one knows this and would prefer it the way it is now a 1000 times over to returning to russian domination.

the events of 2014, yes probably CIA 'orchestrated' to some extent , are celebrated as a great historical moment with the people killed in the kyiv riots celebrated all over as heroes with monuments street names, etc.
 
CaryC

CaryC

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If anyone can, I've never had success with trying to do it, so don't even try anymore, put up Tuckers Monologue from last night 12/7.

After the monologue Tucker speaks to a general, and he mentions two things:

1) Nuking Russia, as dumb as a box of rocks Wicker suggests, would end life on this planet. We nuke them, they nuke us, and on and on it will go, cuz like Biden. Until no one is left to push the button.

2) putting troops into the conflict, would escalate into a wider conflict to the point Russia could include Turkey, and Iran cuz like oil. IMHO If you control the oil, you break Europe. And not being mentioned on MSM with Biden's oil policy, there are Russian tankers sitting in Boston Harbour unloading to help the NE with their winter shortages of heating products.

If someone could put that up, you can hear it for yourself.

My thanks to the person who does.
 
CaryC

CaryC

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Infoscout said:
I am going out on a limb here….but I do not believe Russia will invade Ukraine.
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I would change that to doesn't WANT to. But with the Biden admin and the hawkish handlers behind the scenes, I don't doubt that they will pushed into a corner and actually might, so it can be used as a buffer zone against an invasion of Russia by NATO, which is what they DO WANT. (buffer zone)
 
Jefferson1776

Jefferson1776

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The Uniparty is completely insane! Who in their worst nightmares wants a war with Russia over Ukraine. This whole Russia thing is just a smoke and mirrors issue to hide the fact that Biden is a complete disaster. These Rino/Traitor/Uniparty/Never Trumper Republicans need to be outed as complete idiots. They are crapping in their pants over the possibility of being thrown out of office in 2022. The bigger scare is that Trump or DeSantis will crush Biden in 2024 if we even are around in 2024 and not a nuclear wasteland. Biden's numbers are so low that the Uniparty is willing to start a nuclear war with Russia to retain power. This complete insanity will be the end of us all. If you are not familiar with the term "Wag the Dog" please look it up, this is what we are experiencing with this Russia/Ukraine issue. Please be safe and prepare for a hard winter!
 
CaryC

CaryC

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Jefferson1776 said:
The Uniparty is completely insane! Who in their worst nightmares wants a war with Russia over Ukraine. This whole Russia thing is just a smoke and mirrors issue to hide the fact that Biden is a complete disaster.
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That's pretty much what Tucker said. You're not Tucker posing as Jefferson1776 are you? It's ok you can tell us.
 
CaryC

CaryC

Has No Life - Lives on TB
They got part of the show up at Brietbart

FNC’s Carlson: ‘There Is Nothing We Could Possibly Gain from a Military Confrontation with Vladimir Putin’
Fox News Channel’s Tucker Carlson argued against the possibility of engaging in an armed conflict with Vladimir Putin’s Russia.
Russian forces are positioned along the Russia-Ukraine border, making some draw the conclusion Russia is poised to move into the former province of the Soviet Union.
Carlson told his viewers he saw no upside to the United States being involved.
Transcript as follows:
CARLSON: Here is something all of us need to begin to internalize. Just because something seems farfetched or it seems crazy or it seems totally destructive to core American interests doesn’t mean the U.S. government won’t do it. That’s the main lesson of the moment we are leaving in.

So with that in mind, do not discount no matter how farfetched it may seem a hot war with Russia. Yes, that is a lunatic idea. There is nothing we could possibly gain from a military confrontation with Vladimir Putin and there is very much we could lose, including of course many thousands of American lives, but that doesn’t mean Joe Biden won’t do it.
Biden is unpopular. He is incompetent and he is desperate, but more than anything Joe Biden is weak. He is a pawn of his staff and the hard-eyed ideologues who surround him. Russia is currently involved in a border dispute with neighboring Ukraine, and many of Biden’s closest aides are pushing the United States to get involved militarily.

Now among the many, many ironies here is that the Ukraine crisis was largely created by Joe Biden’s own aides and many people like them throughout all levels of the U.S. government.

So here is the Russian position. For Russia, the core question is NATO. NATO is the post-war military alliance created in 1949 to keep the Soviets from invading Western Europe, and it worked pretty well for about 40 years. But the Soviet Union has not existed in more than three decades. It is part of history now, and yet NATO very much lives on, better funded than ever. It is an Army without a purpose.

So at this point, NATO exists primarily to torment Vladimir Putin who whatever his many faults has no intention of invading Western Europe. Vladimir Putin does not want Belgium, he just wants to keep his western border secure, that’s why he doesn’t want Ukraine to join NATO and that makes sense. Imagine how we would feel if Mexico and Canada became satellites of China, we wouldn’t like that at all.

In Russia’s case, this is an existential question. A NATO takeover of Ukraine would compromise Russia’s access to its Sebastopol Naval Base. That’s the site of the Russian Black Sea Fleet and one of the country’s only connections to international waters.

In the words of Russia’s scholar, Richard Sakwa, if Russia lost the Sevastopol Naval Base, it would be quote, “The biggest military geopolitical defeat of Russia in the last thousand years.” So for Vladimir Putin, that’s unacceptable, it is a disaster. He cannot let it happen, he will not let it happen.

But for the United States and this is the main point here, there would be no benefit either. The United States would gain precisely nothing from taking over Ukraine. Why would we want to do that?

At best, we’d be driving Russia and we are in fact deeper into the arms of the government of China, and that would be a disaster for the United States and a disaster for the world. So why are we doing this? Why is the U.S. government pushing Ukraine to join NATO?

Well, God knows why. But we are doing this, both parties are doing this. The neocons around Joe Biden are for it of course as they are for every sinister and stupid idea, but so is former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, a smart man, so is Ohio Senator Rob Portman, so are many Republicans. So, this is a bipartisan sort of insanity.

The question is, can Joe Biden stand up to it? And the answer is: Come on, Biden has always been more lobbyist than leader. He says what he is told to say.

Once it was the credit card companies in Delaware that wrote his scripts; now, it is the neocons of the State Department. It is the same idea.

Biden spoke today with Vladimir Putin by video call and according to the White House, he informed the Russian leader that the United States plans to control Ukraine no matter what. The Secretary of State and struggling pop musician, Tony Blinken repeated that message. He threatened to send American troops there.
Here is Tony Blinken’s spokesman.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
NED PRICE, STATE DEPARTMENT SPOKESPERSON: If Russia chooses to fail to de-escalate, if Russia chooses to move forward with any plans it may have developed to continue its military aggression or to aggress militarily upon Ukraine, to violate Ukraine’s sovereignty, its independence, its territorial integrity, we, and our allies would be prepared to act. We would be prepared to act resolutely.
(END VIDEO CLIP)

CARLSON: These are such children. Ukraine’s territorial integrity — that’s the concern. That’s what this is really about, they are telling us, because if there is one thing the Biden White House cares about, it is secure borders, at least in Eastern Europe where borders are not racist.

Ukraine’s borders must be defended. It would be immoral to open those borders to the world and allow say tens of thousands of unemployed Haitians to pour across. We can’t allow that. In fact, we will send American troops to Ukraine to prevent that.

Open borders are only permitted in Texas, Arizona, and California, and anywhere else the potential Democratic voters might arrive uninvited from the third world, but Ukraine, no. Ukraine is a God-given right to territorial integrity and American soldiers will die to defend that territorial integrity. That’s our official position as a country.

Now, according to CNN, we must stop these Russian attacks on the sacred borders of Ukraine because if we don’t stop them, what we could have here is what CNN is calling a dire security situation.

Now, that phrase apparently comes from Joe Biden’s Under Secretary of State, Victoria Nuland, who according to CNN gave a quote, “gloomy briefing” to U.S. Senators last night.

Victoria Nuland is strongly in favor of war with Russia. What’s amazing is that anyone, anywhere is still listening to her. No serious person could take Victoria Nuland seriously. She is a joke.

Not only is she obviously unimpressive as a person, ask anyone who knows her, and she is not especially pro-American by the way, she was one of the architects of the disaster in Iraq. So why is Victoria Nuland still talking about foreign policy? Is the guy who designed Chernobyl still building nuclear reactors? Probably not.

Only in Washington where failure is assiduously rewarded could someone like Victoria Nuland still wield power which she absolutely does. It’s scary when you think about it.

Victoria Nuland is driving our Ukraine policy, which of course is being justified by our broader support for quote “democracy.” Now keep that in mind as you listen to this. This is the same — the same Victoria Nuland who was caught on tape several years ago scheming about how to end democracy in Ukraine.

Here is Nuland in a leaked audio recording plotting the overthrow of Ukraine’s democratically elected President. Listen as Nuland rattles off a list of potential puppets to install in place of the democratically elected President.

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)
VICTORIA NULAND, UNDER SECRETARY OF STATE FOR POLITICAL AFFAIRS OF THE UNITED STATES: I think Yats is the guy who’s got the economic experience, the governing experience. He is the — you know, what he needs is Klitsch and Tyahnybok on the outside. He needs to be talking to them four times a week, you know.

I just think Klitsch going in, he is going to be at that level working for Yatseniuk. It’s just not going to work.
GEOFFREY PYATT, FORMER AMBASSADOR TO UKRAINE: Yes, no. I think that’s — I think that’s right. Okay.
(END AUDIO CLIP)

CARLSON: “It’s just not going to work.” What about the voters of Ukraine who thought they were engaged in democracy? Nope, there is Tori Nuland working to overthrow democracy.

Keep in mind, if they’ll do it there, they will do it here.

You’re hearing the same State Department goon who worked to organize a coup in Ukraine telling us we need to go to war with Russia to preserve democracy in Ukraine. These people have no shame.

So the question is, what is this really about? Of course, it is not about democracy, for which they have zero respect. Well, in part, it is a hangover from the lunatic Russia hoax that absorbed Washington for three years. Everything about Vladimir Putin is bad, therefore, let’s have a war with him. A lot of people think that.

But there is also a deeper cause here that’s rarely noted.

For years, Ukrainian interests have pumped millions of lobbying dollars into Washington, D.C. to change American foreign policy in the region. At one point, as you may have heard, they employed the President’s own son to repeat their talking points. So tens of thousands of dollars a month to tell us that Russia is bad and we need to stand with Ukraine because democracy even as we work to overthrow democracy in Ukraine.

So with that in mind, now that you know that, maybe you were not so surprised when Joe Biden concluded that Vladimir Putin doesn’t possess a soul.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS, ABC NEWS HOST: You said you know he doesn’t have a soul.
JOE BIDEN (D), PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Well, I did say that to him, yes. And to — and his response was, we understand one another.

I wasn’t being a wise guy. I was alone with him in his office, that’s how it came about. It was when President Bush had said, I’ve looked in his eyes and saw a soul. I said, I looked in your eyes and I don’t think you have a soul, and looked — and he said, we understand each other.
STEPHANOPOULOS: So you know Vladimir Putin, you think he’s a killer?

BIDEN: Yes. I do.
(END VIDEO CLIP)

CARLSON: These people are children. Again, children pretending to be leaders. Vladimir Putin is a killer, presumably unlike every other head of state on Earth through all human history. But honestly, that is not the relevant question. Vladimir Putin’s soul? Who cares? We can leave that to his priest, assuming he has one.

The only question that matters, the only question is how does intervening in Ukraine help the core interests of the United States? And of course, that is the one question no one in Washington is asking.

Watch The Pentagon’s obedient little flack, a man with so little dignity he’ll say whatever he is told to say, brag about how much military equipment we are now sending to Ukraine and notice as you watch this tape that he never even thinks about explaining why we would be sending that military equipment.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
REAR ADMIRAL JOHN KIRBY (RET.) PENTAGON PRESS SECRETARY: We have provided millions of dollars’ worth of lethal and non-lethal assistance to Ukraine in just the last, you know 10 months or 11 months.
Nothing has changed about our commitment to making sure that Ukraine has what it needs to defend itself.
(END VIDEO CLIP)

CARLSON: So, say what you will about Donald Trump and his Twitter account, maybe you liked him, maybe you’re appalled by his personal style, but in retrospect if there is one thing that Donald Trump deserves eternal credit for is keeping idiots like that in their box for four years. There were no pointless wars under Donald Trump.

That is not a small thing in recent American history, in fact, it’s rarely happened over the past century, but through unwavering determination for which he has not gotten credit, if there’s one thing he deserves credit for, it’s this — Donald Trump pulled that off. He resisted again and again when Members of Congress and guys from Raytheon, when all the interested parties pushed him to go to war here, there, and everywhere, Donald Trump resisted that.

And in Washington, above all, they hated him for that. In the end, they impeached him for it.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
REP. ADAM SCHIFF (D-CA): As one witness put it during our Impeachment Inquiry, the United States aids Ukraine and her people so that we can fight Russia over there and we don’t have to fight Russia here.
(END VIDEO CLIP)

CARLSON: Really? We’re going to fight Russia here, are we, Adam Schiff? Adam Schiff, of course, a dumb person and a partisan Democrat.

But what is so interesting and it ought to make you sit up and pay attention is suddenly, partisan Republicans are making identical noises.
Just this afternoon, Senator Roger Wicker of Mississippi — not a genius, famously, but still a sitting Republican senator went on FOX News to say, we may need to send American troops to Ukraine and possibly because this isn’t insane or anything, think about the use of nuclear weapons. Got that in our back pocket. Nuclear weapons.

Roger Wicker, sitting U.S. Senator. No one in Washington laughed at Roger Wicker. This is so crazy that no one seems aware of how crazy it is. They’re all just sitting back and listening to Victoria Nuland tell them what we need to do.

How much has this penetrated the psyche of Washington, D.C.? Well, here is a sad piece of tape. This is Joni Ernst who is totally affable, nice Republican, sort of reasonable in most things from the Midwest suddenly sounding like a bloodthirsty warmonger, sounding a lot like actually, Adam Schiff when she talks about that dastardly Vladimir Putin.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
SEN. JONI ERNST (R-IA): He needs to say to Vladimir Putin that we are no longer going to allow you to continue with the Nord Stream 2 pipeline. We need you to know and understand that we will defend Ukraine and we will provide them assistance. He needs to make that very clear.
(END VIDEO CLIP)

CARLSON: Putin is so bad we’re going to cut off natural gas to Western Europe in retaliation against him in December. We’re going to freeze Germany and Luxembourg and that’s going to teach Vladimir Putin.

Again, what you just saw there is a child who has no idea what she is talking about, but keeps talking anyway. “We will defend Ukraine,” says Joni Ernst. Remember this is a Senator from Iowa. So what happens if we don’t defend Ukraine, Joni Ernst? Will kids in Des Moines grow up to speak Russian?

No one asked her that question. She has never thought about it, for a moment, but all is reading from the same talking points from Adam Schiff to Roger Wicker to Joni Ernst. It turns out that foreign lobbying campaigns work pretty well and that’s what the Ukrainians pay for when in Washington.

So where is all of this going exactly? What can we expect over the next month or two?
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FNC's Carlson: 'There Is Nothing We Could Possibly Gain from a Military Confrontation with Vladimir Putin' (breitbart.com)
 
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Sicario

Sicario

The Executor
We should do NOTHING! We simply have to learn to start minding our own damn business. If they come after us, GAME ON, BROTHER! Otherwise, let them take care of their own problems. Lord knows we have plenty of our own.

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rbt

rbt

Veteran Member
This might be a calculated risk Biden’s handlers are taking, they already think Russia will not attack, now they will say what a great job Biden did of stopping the invasion.
 
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TFergeson

Non Solum Simul Stare
Let us not forget our SECDEF served on the board of directors of a major defense contractor before having his waiver 'resoundingly' approved after a *thorough* congressional investigation to confirm there were no conflicts of interest.
 
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Old Gray Mare

TB Fanatic
I'm hoping the US will do nothing. Globalists still control NATO which the US is part of. War is a definite possibility.

IMO the globalists are trying to start a war with Russia to stay in power. Russia will protect access to its only warm water ports. Strategically and economically it has to. The Soviet Union fell in 1991. I don't see today's Russia looking for world domination.

Russia supplies Europe with natural gas, ect to keep the lights and heat on there. Russia also tossed out the Globalist banks so their currency is not tied directly to them. If TPB default or hyperinflate the rest of the world's fiat currencies and then deflate or replace them it may not effects Russia as much. This also means the globalists have less leverage over Russia.

War between the US and Russia would only weaken both countries and Europe. Meanwhile China sits back and laughs.
 
Infoscout

Infoscout

The Dude Abides
I wonder if there is going to be a coup against Putin, by a pro western faction of his government or military, and I wonder if this is why we seem to be at a brink of something. I wonder if Putin’s back is against a bigger wall than NATO?
 
Dennis Olson

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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Housecarl said:
U.S. Sen. Roger Wicker, the second-highest ranking Republican on the Senate Armed Services Committee, said the United States cannot rule out any options for responding to Russian aggression in Ukraine—including sending in ground troops or even a nuclear strike.

“Military action could mean that we stand off with our ships in the Black Sea, and we rain destruction on Russian military capability,” Mississippi’s senior senator said during an interview with Fox News host Neil Cavuto today. “It could mean that. It could mean that we participate, and I would not rule that out, I would not rule out American troops on the ground. We don’t rule out first use nuclear action.”
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This kind of sh*t is how you can tell that the RINOs are exactly the same as the Marxist liberals. Insanely irresponsible bloviating. Let's go ahead and threaten to start WW3....
 
Dennis Olson

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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not true. at least in the west.

every singe person i have asked about all this -lots of people! - man, woman and child is adamantly nationalistic and hate, fear, scorn, the 'rus' and everything associated with them, and their history. and very proud that ukraine is a single country for the first time in 1000 years.

yes, the government is dis organized and most civil system are 'corrupt', but every one knows this and would prefer it the way it is now a 1000 times over to returning to russian domination.

the events of 2014, yes probably CIA 'orchestrated' to some extent , are celebrated as a great historical moment with the people killed in the kyiv riots celebrated all over as heroes with monuments street names, etc.
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Not buyin it. My source's dad would have no reason to lie.
Micro said:
Blame Trump.
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No, it's the 'Rona!!!
ShadowMan said:
What will Brandon do? Hide in the basement, that's what!
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No, he forgets how to get out of the basement. He's not actually hiding there.
 
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Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
rbt said:
This might be a calculated risk Biden’s handlers are taking, they already think Russia will not attack, now they will say what a great job Biden did of stopping the invasion.
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Yeah, the same ones in charge of the border mess and Afghanistan, as well as the brewing mess with the CCP and Iran for a short list....
 
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Oreally

Right from the start
Dennis Olson said:
Not buyin it. My source's dad would have no reason to lie.
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i'm here. today.

i am a 'source'.

this is what i am honestly reporting.

EVERYONE i have personally met and spoken to hates the Russians with a passion. family stories that would rip your heart out,

you will see ten year old boys as suicide bombers.
 
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fi103r

Veteran Member
voted other
this is most likely nothing burger
the war state can’t gin up
enough support to fund the .mil much less a war
honest to god shooting war not likely

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Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
Dennis Olson said:
This kind of sh*t is how you can tell that the RINOs are exactly the same as the Marxist liberals. Insanely irresponsible bloviating. Let's go ahead and threaten to start WW3....
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Yeah, same zip code different p.o. box. We are so short on statesmen and beyond a surplus of political hacks who they think they are Cicero reborn that calling it an ongoing tragedy doesn't seem strong enough.
 
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Troke

On TB every waking moment
TheChrome said:
Diplomacy always works. Just ask Neville Chamberlain. He successfully negotiated with Hitler to end hostilities in Europe. It worked right?
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It gave Britain a few more units of time to prepare for war. Because they were totally unprepared even though Churchill had been screaming for years that war was coming. Nobody listened to him until nearly too late.
 
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