LEGAL US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana in a historic shift

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US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana in a historic shift, AP sources say​


By ZEKE MILLER, JOSHUA GOODMAN, JIM MUSTIAN and LINDSAY WHITEHURST​



Updated 12:48 PM CDT, April 30, 2024

WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration will move to reclassify marijuana as a less dangerous drug, The Associated Press has learned, a historic shift to generations of American drug policy that could have wide ripple effects across the country.
The DEA’s proposal, which still must be reviewed by the White House Office of Management and Budget, would recognize the medical uses of cannabis and acknowledge it has less potential for abuse than some of the nation’s most dangerous drugs. However, it would not legalize marijuana outright for recreational use.
The agency’s move, confirmed to the AP on Tuesday by five people familiar with the matter who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss the sensitive regulatory review, clears the last significant regulatory hurdle before the agency’s biggest policy change in more than 50 years can take effect.

Once OMB signs off, the DEA will take public comment on the plan to move marijuana from its current classification as a Schedule I drug, alongside heroin and LSD. It moves pot to Schedule III, alongside ketamine and some anabolic steroids, following a recommendation from the federal Health and Human Services Department. After the public-comment period the agency would publish the final rule.
It comes after President Joe Biden called for a review of federal marijuana law in October 2022 and moved to pardon thousands of Americans convicted federally of simple possession of the drug. He has also called on governors and local leaders to take similar steps to erase marijuana convictions.

“Criminal records for marijuana use and possession have imposed needless barriers to employment, housing, and educational opportunities,” Biden said in December. “Too many lives have been upended because of our failed approach to marijuana. It’s time that we right these wrongs.”
The election year announcement could help Biden, a Democrat, boost flagging support, particularly among younger voters.

Biden and a growing number of lawmakers from both major political parties have been pushing for the DEA decision as marijuana has become increasingly decriminalized and accepted, particularly by younger people. A Gallup poll last fall found 70% of adults support legalization, the highest level yet recorded by the polling firm and more than double the roughly 30% who backed it in 2000.
Schedule III drugs are still controlled substances and subject to rules and regulations, and people who traffic in them without permission could still face federal criminal prosecution.
Some critics argue the DEA shouldn’t change course on marijuana, saying rescheduling isn’t necessary and could lead to harmful side effects.
Jack Riley, a former deputy administrator of the DEA, said he had concerns about the proposed change because he thinks marijuana remains a possible “gateway drug,” one that may lead to the use of other drugs.
“But in terms of us getting clear to use our resources to combat other major drugs, that’s a positive,” Riley said, noting that fentanyl alone accounts for more than 100,000 deaths in the U.S. a year.

On the other end of the spectrum, others argue marijuana should be treated the way alcohol is.
Last week, 21 Democrats led by Senate Majority Leader Sen. Chuck Schumer of New York sent a letter to DEA Administrator Anne Milgram and Attorney General Merrick Garland arguing marijuana should be dropped from the controlled-substances list and instead regulated like alcohol.
“It is time for the DEA to act,” the lawmakers wrote. “Right now, the Administration has the opportunity to resolve more than 50 years of failed, racially discriminatory marijuana policy.”
Federal drug policy has lagged behind many states in recent years, with 38 having already legalized medical marijuana and 24 legalizing its recreational use.
That’s helped fuel fast growth in the marijuana industry, with an estimated worth of nearly $30 billion. Easing federal regulations could reduce the tax burden that can be 70% or more for businesses, according to industry groups. It could also make it easier to research marijuana, since it’s very difficult to conduct authorized clinical studies on Schedule I substances.

The immediate effect of rescheduling on the nation’s criminal justice system would likely be more muted, since federal prosecutions for simple possession have been fairly rare in recent years.
But loosening restrictions could carry a host of unintended consequences in the drug war and beyond.
Critics point out that as a Schedule III drug, marijuana would remain regulated by the DEA. That means the roughly 15,000 cannabis dispensaries in the U.S. would have to register with the DEA like regular pharmacies and fulfill strict reporting requirements, something that they are loath to do and that the DEA is ill equipped to handle

Then there’s the United States’ international treaty obligations, chief among them the 1961 Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs, which requires the criminalization of cannabis. In 2016, during the Obama administration, the DEA cited the U.S.’ international obligations and the findings of a federal court of appeals in Washington in denying a similar request to reschedule marijuana.

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Goodman reported from Miami, Mustian from New Orleans. AP writer Colleen Long contributed.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
Well, it will help people access medical marijuana. The highest schedule drugs are supposed to have "no legitimate medical use," and science has long proved that is not the case. Of course, that is subjective; in the UK, they use heroin under another name to treat pain in burn and terminal cancer patients. Because it is one of the best painkillers, but the addiction rate is so high that many countries have chosen not to use it.

I agree. However, this is for the election (obviously), and it would be much better just to treat it like alcohol that kills millions of people a year (worldwide) but is legal. Among many sectors of the population (and not just the USA), people tend to respond to the illegality of marijuana the same way the US population did to booze during prohibition. They ignore it and allow the production and trafficking to be handled by gangs and make criminals out of home gardeners (or winemakers/moonshiners).

But removing the legal fiction that a plant was used by George Washington to treat his denture pain has no medical uses, is at least a start in the right direction.
 

West

Senior
Yeah, like alcohol is sooooooo much better.

Legalize it with zero penalty to your rights and let responsible ADULTS use as they wish.

All of this is from the same group that proudly proclaimed SAFE AND EFFECTIVE.
Yeah, for me $10 for 80+ proof cheap whisky messes me up a bit more than $10 in top shelf legal devils lettuce.

Plus the whiskey makes me become Sr. Peealot. And then I wake up at 2am wanting a second bottle.

Best not to do either, I know! Only because I'm to dam old! Grrr... and I like sleep and clarity.
 
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Publius

TB Fanatic
I do not have a problem with this and from my teen and into my adult years I have not seen pot smokers in general to be trouble makers or go around stealing to support their pot smoking habit, those that do use it as an excuse it's just the way they are and they cannot not be trusted.
 

Greywolf036

Contributing Member
When it is "Legalized" on a "Federal Level" , ya gotta wonder how many fed employees are gonna come out of the closet, and show up high for work,
And are those folks sitting in jail, for smoking, are they going to get their records expunged?
 

West

Senior
If I could have a ounce of cocaine in our first aid kit I would! But I know the laws and my self would want to test it. : D

BUT, I would stay strong and not do it just to party! Imagine the potential in a fox hole. You know your fighting off the commies or liberal socialist zombies and get your left arm cut or blown off.

And you know you might as well take out as many of the zombies as possible and you know your going to die anyway. So you stick the stub of what's left of your blown off arm in a pile if cocaine. Then snort a fat pile and continue fighting, or just bleed out and die?

I know what I would rather do. But no, emergency cocaine for me, the Bidens, Obama and Clinton have it all... and it's a felony for us tax payers..

:D
 

Shadow

Swift, Silent,...Sleepy
As an early teen, nearly 60 years ago, I tried marijuana once. I didn't like anything it did to me. About 9 months later my mind cleared from a fog that I then realizes had set in when I smoked grass. A number of other one time users reported the same thing. So I cannot go along with the harmless marijuana narrative. I now realize that the deep state benefits from any ill effects of this drug.

I have friends that always vacationed in Colorado and wanted to retire there. As the marijuana legalization has had it's effect on the people there they will no longer vacation there let alone move there.

Shadow
 

Doc1

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Simple. Decriminalize or legalize everything. All of it. The Feds really have no Constitutional authority to be involved in regulating drugs at all other than, perhaps, to impose tariffs on any that are imported. If any regulations are to be imposed, it should purely be a state issue.

But Constitution and limited government be damned! The Federal government has been aggregating power to itself for generations to which it isn't entitled. More laws! More bureaucracies, More money! More power! That's the name of the game and it has been for a very long time.

Best
Doc (who doesn't use any illegal drugs)
 
If I could have a ounce of cocaine in our first aid kit I would! But I know the laws and my self would want to test it. : D

BUT, I would stay strong and not do it just to party! Imagine the potential in a fox hole. You know your fighting off the commies or liberal socialist zombies and get your left arm cut or blown off.

And you know you might as well take out as many of the zombies as possible and you know your going to die anyway. So you stick the stub of what's left of your blown off arm in a pile if cocaine. Then snort a fat pile and continue fighting, or just bleed out and die?

I know what I would rather do. But no, emergency cocaine for me, the Bidens, Obama and Clinton have it all... and it's a felony for us tax payers..

:D
Espresso and a tourniquet
 

West

Senior
Espresso and a tourniquet
I'm a caffeine addict, grind my own beans and have a strong but not as thick as espresso, 24 ounce cup every morning, sometimesa a cup and half. With two heaping spoonfuls of real local honey and a vary liberal amount of real non pasteurized milk cream strait from the top.

What I'm saying, if my arm was blown or leg was cut or blown off, that espresso would not help at all! Now a tourniquet goes on with out mentioning it! I know how fast one can bleed to death.
 

155 arty

Veteran Member
When it is "Legalized" on a "Federal Level" , ya gotta wonder how many fed employees are gonna come out of the closet, and show up high for work,
And are those folks sitting in jail, for smoking, are they going to get their records expunged?
I just don't get where everyone that doesn't like the idea of legal weed thinks people will show up to work high or immediately start driving high or all kinds of people are suddenly going to start smoking pot ....they either already do and ya just don't know it or God forbid things turn out to just continue on unoticed except for a few pot shops pop up ...people just don't as a rule take up smoking pot because it's legal ...most have been smoking or using it just without your knowledge.
 

155 arty

Veteran Member
When it is "Legalized" on a "Federal Level" , ya gotta wonder how many fed employees are gonna come out of the closet, and show up high for work,
And are those folks sitting in jail, for smoking, are they going to get their records expunged?
If ya show up drunk your fired same with pot ....Do you know the difference between pot smokers and non pot smokers ? ............pot smokers don't care if you don't smoke pot .
 

Toosh

Veteran Member
We've spent zijillions on the War Against Drugs. We lost that war several decades back. Legalize it and tax it. But - - allow insurance companies to post higher rates for users on health, liability and car insurance.

I assume it will fall under FDA testing and approval and manufacturers will have the same liability as alcohol and firearm manufacturers. That's only fair.

I agree it has a medical use and is good for some - and it's natural. I'm not against people using it. I am against the price society will have to pay for it being legalized.
 

dstraito

TB Fanatic
DEA- FU

Nothing you have done in the "war on drugs" has helped, maybe for a reason, because the alphabet agencies pad their black budgets with the profits from drugs, weapons, and human trafficking

It is time for accountability, what you are doing is WRONG!
 

Mongo

Veteran Member
I am all for legalizing all drugs.

It's not like the "law" prevents anyone who wants to partake.

I don't think there would be more druggies if they were legal.

Heck, take a third of the money used to incarcerate drug criminals and create a public awareness campaign.
 

jed turtle

a brother in the Lord
Simple. Decriminalize or legalize everything. All of it. The Feds really have no Constitutional authority to be involved in regulating drugs at all other than, perhaps, to impose tariffs on any that are imported. If any regulations are to be imposed, it should purely be a state issue.

But Constitution and limited government be damned! The Federal government has been aggregating power to itself for generations to which it isn't entitled. More laws! More bureaucracies, More money! More power! That's the name of the game and it has been for a very long time.

Best
Doc (who doesn't use any illegal drugs)
I am ok with that, but also remove all those on welfare/EBT cards to work camps, …. Or boot camps with rapid postings to bases in Africa…
 

WalknTrot

Veteran Member
I've never smoked anything including tobacco or marijuana. Having lived with a mother who smoked heavily while we kids lived at home - a big NO THANKS. Besides that, marijuana stinks even worse than tobacco. Yuck. Don't want to put any more smoke of any kind into my lungs than what annual Canadian forest fires provide. Haha. Never used illegal drugs, including marijuana, recreationally. I'm the kind of born schlub who always gets caught, and besides, am self-aware and self-respectful enough to not want to ever have my brain altered to the point of irresponsibility. Not to mention having the combo to that safe at work, keeping it's records, and being subject to random drug tests and DEA visits.

Yet post-retirement, I've used topical CBD oil (with THC) to surprising physical pain relief. Seen how much it relieves the symptoms of my best friend with MS. In the past, have worked with people (and listened to their rants) who were inhibited by the ridiculous Fed classification of marijuana from doing legitimate research on it's medical properties. If this reclass finally allows research into those promising medical uses, THAT is what will be important.
Not making stoners happy.
 
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Luddite

Veteran Member
I would have "liked" this post if not for jailing the oldest profession - their choice.
Pimps? Sure, shoot them, I don't care.
I am glad you brought out that finer point. Can't argue with your logic.

Supply side or demand side enforcement has always been an argument for both issues. :)
 

greysage

On The Level
Very true. When I tell people I don't drink alcohol most look at me like I just grew a third eye!

Ain't that the truth.
Sometimes I've had people appear offended when I say I don't drink (alcohol).
There have been times in the past where I drank, and even enjoyed local brewed beers. But for my whole life, I never really liked drinking alcohol. I generally feel like crap within hours of having an alcohol beverage.
Haven't drank any booze since 2015, not because I'm a drunk, but because it tastes gross and makes me feel like crap.
 

Doc1

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Ain't that the truth.
Sometimes I've had people appear offended when I say I don't drink (alcohol).
There have been times in the past where I drank, and even enjoyed local brewed beers. But for my whole life, I never really liked drinking alcohol. I generally feel like crap within hours of having an alcohol beverage.
Haven't drank any booze since 2015, not because I'm a drunk, but because it tastes gross and makes me feel like crap.

Hmmm. I always liked drinking, but had to give it up a few years ago because of my Type 2 diabetes. As most of you probably know, metabolizing alcohol causes spikes in blood sugar. I'm also a chronic pain patient and the irony there is that I formerly used alcohol - sometimes and only at night - as an analgesic to help deal with my pain.

I must say that as much as I enjoyed drinking, I didn't have the slightest trouble stopping. We still have many bottles of booze around the house that have been untouched for years. Oh, I also think it's important to explain that we didn't/don't have lots of booze around the house because I drank so much, but because I always thought that alcohol was great medicinal and barter material. It's part of our preps.

Some things just go well together naturally, like cake and ice cream. I always thought that - in no particular order - the combination of ladies, motorcycles and alcohol was hard to beat! Now, due to age and decrepitude, "ladies" lost the plural and became singular and alcohol has become a memory...but I still do ride the Harleys!

I'm 67 YO now so I suppose that in less than three years, I'll be seen by some as that weird seventy year-old dude who's still out riding motorcycles, when he should be wearing golf shorts and spending his time on the links! To the good, I look younger than my age and still see women giving me "the eye" and checking me out when I'm out on my bike (and other places). I never act on that because a.) I really do try to be a good man and b.) I taught my DW to be extremely accurate with her .38!

Best
Doc
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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I am all for legalizing all drugs.

It's not like the "law" prevents anyone who wants to partake.

I don't think there would be more druggies if they were legal.

Heck, take a third of the money used to incarcerate drug criminals and create a public awareness campaign.
Exactly! Study after study has shown that the percentage of actual *addicts* (not just those who are physically dependent, but the ones who "can't live without" their habitual, regular dose) was the same whether "drugs" were totally legal or completely illegal. While legalizing everything might make a few folks who didn't try cannabis because of the legal risk try it (especially older folks looking for pain relief), I don't know of anyone who would say, "gee, now that cocaine is legal, I th8nk I'll pick up a batch and try it! (Insert "fentanyl" or "heroin" or anything else for cocaine).

And while a few more young people might try stuff, in the end, the percentage who become true addicts won't be any higher than when women were buying "Mrs. SoAndSo's syrup for period pain"... with 10% morphine, over the counter.

Summerthyme
 
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