POL They're Going To Let Trump Win

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
....wait, what?

Admittedly, this was an event we considered, but they're going to get taken down as hard as we will, aren't they?

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They're Going To Let Trump Win​


by Portfolio Armor
Tuesday, Mar 26, 2024 - 17:13

Fighting The Last War

There's a common fear on the right that despite Trump's current lead in the polls, the Democrats are going to find a way to pull the rug out from under him in November.

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As our friend Kevin Dolan points out in the post he was kind enough to let us share below though, there are a number of reasons why the 2024 election is not going to be a repeat of the 2024 one.

Authored by Kevin Dolan at EXIT

They're Going To Let Trump Win​

We’re all bracing for craziness during the 2024 election. Nobody’s quite ready to give it a shape or a name to their expectations, but we have all agreed it will be “crazy”.
So let’s nail it down. Are you expecting a civil war? A “color revolution”? Another steal?
I suspect the reason we are all gesturing vaguely at “things getting spicy” is that none of the concrete theories for exactly how it will get spicy make much sense.
We’re just absolutely sure that he’s going to win the election fair-and-square, but “they’re not going to let him win”, so it must inevitably get “spicy” and “froggy” and “kinetic”, somehow.
But I actually think they’ll probably just let him win.

Civil War?

The Russian Civil War was preceded by fifty years of bombings, assassinations, repression, famine, and two consecutive military defeats.
“Weimar solutions” only came after fifteen years of Weimar problems, including street battles between hardened WWI veterans that left dozens dead every few months.
It’s true that we are headed for hyperinflation — but in Germany, hyperinflation had come and gone by 1923. Millions were wiped out, and the Weimar government limped along for another decade thereafter.
The American Civil War didn’t start at Fort Sumter; it was the culmination of a decade of paramilitary violence with a death toll in the hundreds.
Here in 2024, the last leftist who suggested that his comrades arm themselves to prepare for physical violence got shouted down for being ableist by hundreds of mentally ill commies who said they would immediately off themselves if they had access to a gun. (Post the link if you have it, it was priceless and I can’t find it.)

Even when they aren’t morbidly obese and hormonally incapacitated, people don’t just form death squads from a cold start. There is simply no political development, no revelation, no economic catastrophe that gets us from our present comfortable state to a shooting war in the next eight months.

Color Revolution?

People often suggest that “the CIA” will simply “do a color revolution” on Trump. But the playbook for a color revolution involves accusing the existing regime of rigging the election and stoking popular anger against government abuses and corruption.
Then, you storm the hall of parliament or congress and “nonviolently” demand the resignation of the illegitimate government, or a repeat of the vote.
Which is to say: January 6 was a textbook color revolution, and it failed.
But Trump isn’t in control of the government, and never was — and the actual government has spent the last 4 years banging the drum that American elections are unriggable.

“People like that re-form… say, maybe we should get us some”

There can be no situation in which Trump assumes control of the government under questionable circumstances, because unlike Yanukovich or Shevardnadze, he has no access to the practical levers of power that would permit him to do that. He will either win unambiguously, or not at all.
Biden was a weak candidate in 2020, but it was easy to connect the chaos of the Floyd riots and COVID to Trump’s chaotic and disruptive personal style in ordinary voters’ minds.
By comparison, Biden looked like “a return to normalcy”, which appealed even to many conservatives. But that promise evaporated — we got a disastrous retreat from Afghanistan, new wars in Gaza and Ukraine, a blockade in the Red Sea, and double-digit inflation.
The US intelligence services do not actually have infinite reality-warping narrative control. You can’t run re-form when you’re the damn incumbent.

Another Steal?

The 2020 election is another domain of folk political science where our guys are simply unwilling to admit any limitations whatsoever on the enemy’s power.
Most of the sane takes on the 2020 election don’t imply total control of the voting system. The election was “stolen” in the following ways:
  • Changing rules governing mail-in ballots and expansion of deadlines made fraud harder to prove
  • Democrat campaign workers went through nursing homes and housing projects gathering ballots and illegally filling them out for Biden
  • News outlets and social media companies colluded with US intelligence services to suppress damaging stories about the Bidens and fabricate accusations against Trump
Many of you point to the brazenness of the intervention in 2020, and the stupidity of the justifications for it, as evidence of a kind of supreme Nietzschean self-confidence among our enemies.
I see the opposite:


If they could just add a zero to Biden’s vote count on the Dominion machine, all this scrambling and wriggling and lying would be unnecessary. They are showing you that their power has limits. There is a “margin of fraud”.
In the meantime, confidence in mass media is falling:



TV news viewership is falling:



The CIA and FBI no longer have a back channel to demand the censorship of politically inconvenient content on Twitter/X. Fox News has lost its monopoly on the boomercon viewer after firing Tucker Carlson.
The main lever of “the steal” in 2020 was not outright fraud — it was censorship and narrative manipulation. We live in a “media-managed democracy”, and the state has lost control of the media.

Ragequitting across the board

The weakness of our enemies’ position can be seen in all sorts of domains.
Instead of drumming up mobs and getting people fired on Twitter, they’re whining about how unfair it is and running off to ideological cul-de-sacs like right-wingers did in 2018.
In 2014, commies rampaged through the gaming industry and made everything hideous and boring; now they’re fuming impotently about how no one is buying, and threatening (?) to go back to prostitution.
They’re realizing they have no way of threatening naughty crypto gorillionaires, so they’re histrionically taking their ball and going home.
Again, these aren’t self-assured, battle-hardened Bolshevik gangsters and killers we’re dealing with. They’re targeting state enemies in performative, haphazard and counterproductive ways for personal career reasons — and it sucks for the person thus targeted, but it isn’t actually making the regime more powerful or demoralizing their enemies.
In the wake of Elon and Jamie Dimon’s public “coming out” in favor of Trump, it has become normal for famous faces in tech and finance to say on mainstream news that maybe Trump isn’t so bad and it would probably be OK to let him be president.

So what’s actually going to happen?

All of this talk about preparing for political violence and race riots is another case of conservatives gearing up to fight the last war. The enemy is good at creating chaos, but that won’t help them — their guy is in charge.
So they probably can’t beat Trump, and it doesn’t seem like they have the juice to try that hard.
The smart thing to do — which also happens to be the easiest thing for a massive faceless managerial state to do — is nothing.
Let Trump back in, and fight him on home turf — in the maze of the executive bureaucracy. Some of his backers have announced their intention to become politically competent in the event that he wins — but compared to the alternatives, that’s a very manageable risk.
More importantly: let Trump hold the bag for the all-but-guaranteed economic calamity of the next four years. The regime could skate for another decade if they succeed in pinning the collapse on a dangerous, erratic right-wing upstart.

How should we prepare?

If there is any uptick in violence to prepare for, it’s likely to be the low-grade violence of crime and immiseration, so the way to prepare is to secure assets that can’t be inflated away or digitally expropriated, and avoid jurisdictions where your rights to property and self-defense are unlikely to be respected.
Now is the time to get physically close to friends and family in a stable, politically-reliable jurisdiction, and trade your funny money and fake/subsidized/ZIRP income streams for productive assets in the real world.
Get started with us at exitgroup.us.

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The Hammer

Has No Life - Lives on TB
A possibility that should be considered. Such a strategy would, from the view of the left, also further their agenda from the standpoint of chaos. They love chaos.

It seems now that fewer and fewer people expect Biden to win and are just waiting out the clock till he gets the boot. That would make another Dominion steal much harder to sell than in 2020.
 

Dobbin

Faithful Steed
One of my scenarios was them handing Trump WWIII

“good luck with that Mr.President… /snark”
One of my scenarios was them handing Trump Great Depression II.

I.e., if they can't hand over prosperity (by definition a government controlled economy CAN'T produce prosperity) they'll hand over the natural result of a government controlled economy.

Rahm Emanual Quote: You never want a serious crisis to go to waste. And what I mean by that is an opportunity to do things that you think you could not do before.

And (Dobbin Corollary) "If you don't have a serious crisis - you create one."

Janet Yellen (Secretary of the Treasury) standing by...

Dobbin
 
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Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
One of my scenarios was them handling Trump Great Depression II.

I.e., if they can't hand over prosperity (by definition a government controlled economy CAN'T produce prosperity) they'll hand over the natural result of a government controlled economy.

Rahm Emanual Quote: You never want a serious crisis to go to waste. And what I mean by that is an opportunity to do things that you think you could not do before.

And (Dobbin Corollary) "If you don't have a serious crisis - you create one."

Janet Yellen (Secretary of the Treasury) standing by...

Dobbin

Which, honestly, doesn't make much sense. For all the same reasons no one buys Trump slander, except those who would never support him to begin with.

It's obvious to anyone whose mental candlepower is in the crustacean range that Trump had not a thing to do with either WWIII or Great Depression II or Both At Once I. And even if, somehow, they DID get people to blame Trump, what good would it do? They're not going to come running back to Michelle Obama or whatever purple-haired goon they haul out of the basement for 2028.

Meanwhile, in the meantime, Trump discovers Rule By Executive Order and signs a metric ass-ton of death warrants. Suddenly the swamp isn't drained, but rather, set on fire by good ole boys who discover that Strange Fruit is now legal and there's a price for Democrat pelts.
 

ShadowMan

Designated Grumpy Old Fart
SEMPER GUMBY.......always flexible. I'm just going to be ready for ANYTHING!!!! And that includes....NOTHING. There is simply no way to know what's going to happen or not happen. Both sides are rattling sabers. Both sides are getting mouthy. Both sides will be screaming...RIP OFF!! But then again, nothing could happen. So I'll just make sure all the "i's" are dotted, all the "t's" crossed and all the hatches are battened down, just in case. Then sit back and wait and watch for the fireworks. With a bottle of fine Spanish wine......... :popcorn3:
 

mikealv77

Senior Member
Most people will blame who ever is in office when something bad happens like a depression or economic collapse. They still have plenty of deep state and a demolition of our economy will cause most sheep to blame whomever is in power and ask the govt to save them and "do something". The something is always give up your freedom.
 

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
Most people will blame who ever is in office when something bad happens like a depression or economic collapse. They still have plenty of deep state and a demolition of our economy will cause most sheep to blame whomever is in power and ask the govt to save them and "do something". The something is always give up your freedom.

It'd be one thing if the "something bad" happened in year four. That happened to Trump. But THIS something bad would have to happen a lot sooner.
 

Sacajawea

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Yeah, way too many armchair "experts" making free with their favorite blame targets & theories especially about the election.

I do like "Semper Gumby" - think I'm stealing it & passing it on! Merci beaucoup! ;)
 

GWN_guy

Truth Seeker
These articles are nothing more than disinformation. Like the QANON wishful stories.
The Bolsheviks already ran this psy op very successfully 100 years ago. They caused the public to do nothing until their takeover was complete by feeding false hopes that there was a movement within the military to stop the communist takeover. It worked then. Don't let it work again.
 

TheSearcher

Are you sure about that?
These articles are nothing more than disinformation. Like the QANON wishful stories.
The Bolsheviks already ran this psy op very successfully 100 years ago. They caused the public to do nothing until their takeover was complete by feeding false hopes that there was a movement within the military to stop the communist takeover. It worked then. Don't let it work again.
The advice is good, but it is to choir to whom you preach. Hardening the necessary defenses makes sense, for sure.
 

Wyominglarry

Veteran Member
The person who wrote this article is in a minority of one, who thinks the left will not try everything to keep Trump out of the WH. I for one do not agree with the article and believe the left has much more to lose if Trump is elected and returns to the WH. If the left believed what this article states then why all the lawsuits against Trump?
 

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
The person who wrote this article is in a minority of one, who thinks the left will not try everything to keep Trump out of the WH. I for one do not agree with the article and believe the left has much more to lose if Trump is elected and returns to the WH. If the left believed what this article states then why all the lawsuits against Trump?

Cover. They can't make it look too easy.
 

bracketquant

Veteran Member
Which, honestly, doesn't make much sense. For all the same reasons no one buys Trump slander, except those who would never support him to begin with.

It's obvious to anyone whose mental candlepower is in the crustacean range that Trump had not a thing to do with either WWIII or Great Depression II or Both At Once I. And even if, somehow, they DID get people to blame Trump, what good would it do? They're not going to come running back to Michelle Obama or whatever purple-haired goon they haul out of the basement for 2028.

Meanwhile, in the meantime, Trump discovers Rule By Executive Order and signs a metric ass-ton of death warrants. Suddenly the swamp isn't drained, but rather, set on fire by good ole boys who discover that Strange Fruit is now legal and there's a price for Democrat pelts.
I'm tying to use as much of my cranial candlepower as I can, here. But in having nothing to do with a Great Depression II, did Trump, as President, lower the national debt, keep it the same, or increase it by about 8 trillion dollars?

Asking for a friend, having the same candlepower
 

John Green

Veteran Member
I'm tying to use as much of my cranial candlepower as I can, here. But in having nothing to do with a Great Depression II, did Trump, as President, lower the national debt, keep it the same, or increase it by about 8 trillion dollars?

Asking for a friend, having the same candlepower
Lol, Trumps entire business model is about using debt. That’s all I got.
 

Dobbin

Faithful Steed
He also had a congress and senate whose sole purpose was to deny Trump any power. Then the democraps got control of the congress and it went downhill.
I remember the "fence" debacle. Because Trump promoted it, all of Congress was against it. That is the Democrat and Rino Congress. Then the Democrats refined their "steal" for the 2018 election, and that codified it.

And the Covid/Election steal REALLY codified it. One imagines the Democrats were pinching themselves on how easily done a fraud election was.

I mean driving a truck-load of "pre-filled out ballots" from NYC to Pennsylvania? RT 9:25

You will note that the driver is giving testimony before some court or committee.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0xaA4dYsbQ


Dobbin
 

Dobbin

Faithful Steed
t's obvious to anyone whose mental candlepower is in the crustacean range that Trump had not a thing to do with either WWIII or Great Depression II or Both At Once I. And even if, somehow, they DID get people to blame Trump, what good would it do? They're not going to come running back to Michelle Obama or whatever purple-haired goon they haul out of the basement for 2028.
Hoover likewise was largely "progressive" in his plans, but refuted the necessity to "inflate" the currency to counter inflation. Still, Hoover is frequently perceived today to contributing to the downturn. AKA the rise of "Hoovervilles" which was the MEEDIA's name for the upsprung "camps" that resulted.

On the other hoof, FDR DID "call in the gold" and put the nation on a fiat currency as a way to counter the continuing deflation. This is a tool which has been repeatedly used since then with EVERY downturn. And sometimes not even during a downturn.

Creating currency is the ultimate economic "high." Pass the joint, Man.

And - there are those who accuse FDR of contributing to the "continuation" of the Great Depression as entire towns became dependent upon the Federal Largess. "Appalachia" comes to mind specifically.

Owner's father made the comment (he having lived through it) that "it took WWII to finally bring the US out of the Great Depression." This being the wholesale nationwide largess which paid the labor that built the US war machine which later was destroyed to win the war - and even further consciously destroyed by the US Government afterwards.

Dobbin
 

Southside

Has No Life - Lives on TB
These articles are nothing more than disinformation. Like the QANON wishful stories.
The Bolsheviks already ran this psy op very successfully 100 years ago. They caused the public to do nothing until their takeover was complete by feeding false hopes that there was a movement within the military to stop the communist takeover. It worked then. Don't let it work again.
One big difference. We are not giving up our guns.
There will be time, though it could get ugly.
 

Tristan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I remember the "fence" debacle. Because Trump promoted it, all of Congress was against it. That is the Democrat and Rino Congress. Then the Democrats refined their "steal" for the 2018 election, and that codified it.

And the Covid/Election steal REALLY codified it. One imagines the Democrats were pinching themselves on how easily done a fraud election was.

I mean driving a truck-load of "pre-filled out ballots" from NYC to Pennsylvania? RT 9:25

You will note that the driver is giving testimony before some court or committee.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0xaA4dYsbQ


Dobbin


That can't be right.

There never was even a scintilla of evidence of Vote Fraud! Not a single bit! Zip! Zero! NADA!

I know this because CNN told me so.
 

2dollarbill

Veteran Member
Denying Trump any more power than that he has under the Constitution is as...it...should...be.
sounds like gooblespeak from MSM. Trump was denied the ability to govern as an executive that controlled both houses of congress. His supposedly own party was full of undercover progressives that denied him the platform he ran on which was constitutional. He didn't ask for anything "extra" as you implied. Fake news pal.
 

Elza

Veteran Member
I've truly thought about this. The Dims have made a pigs breakfast out of our country. And the world for that matter. Especially with the third term of the HNIC. I have no doubt that they have the necessary triggers in place to crash the entire mess at any time.

So, they let Trump have the WH and pull the triggers. They will have everything they want. Total and complete devastation that they will blame on Trump and the Repukes. Then the Dims come riding in as the saviors. Of course they will require a "few" changes in our government and laws but "everyone will be better in the long run". Thus the final and permanent end of the USA.

Of course they would be right about one thing. The Repukes would be guilty. They have allowed and backed every POS legislation the Dims have come up with for decades. Most people have yet to realize that that D and R are two sides of the same coin and are therefore easily fooled and mislead. By the time they realize it (if they ever do) it will be far too late.
 

Satanta

Stone Cold Crazy
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Most people will blame who ever is in office when something bad happens like a depression or economic collapse. They still have plenty of deep state and a demolition of our economy will cause most sheep to blame whomever is in power and ask the govt to save them and "do something". The something is always give up your freedom.
Especially when the MSM/Social Media tells them to.
 

Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
Another possible angle is those behind the curtain could use that scenario to expunge all of the "useful idiots" in the halls of power before they get to be an actual threat to those behind the curtains.
 

2dollarbill

Veteran Member
Another possible angle is those behind the curtain could use that scenario to expunge all of the "useful idiots" in the halls of power before they get to be an actual threat to those behind the curtains.
sounds familiar, night of the long knives. It almost feels like maybe anarchy might be welcome at some point after that.
 

Henry Bowman

Veteran Member
One big difference. We are not giving up our guns.
There will be time, though it could get ugly.
As you are aware I am in agreement with you on almost every issue you speak to.

However, not giving up our guns is meaningless because not using them is even worse.

Probably what you meant by getting "Ugly"
 
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