SO MOST OF US KNOW THAT MCCAIN & OBAMA....

fruit loop

Inactive
Sigh.....so what if Obama WAS a Muslim??? All Muslims aren't terrorists just because Osama Bin Laden is. All Christians are not terrorists just because Eric Rudolph was.

That makes me sad.
 

Ender

Inactive
You know exactly what I meant dd- especially since you are cutting RP down on the aforementioned thread.

RP said:
Speaking on the stage management of the election, and calling it a "huge distraction" from real issues, the Congressman outlined how both candidates were pre-positioned by the elite interests with the knowledge that either would satisfactorily serve their agenda:

"I think McCain was obviously a back up candidate in case something happened where Obama didn't win, they'd have been satisfied with McCain, but they have been positioning Obama for a long long time."


"This started even before he announced he was running. Anybody who would have gotten that much favorable coverage for so long, you know that the plans are laid for him to be the individual that's going to be taking care of the corporate elite." the Congressman continued.

Now.

I could give a rat's ass whether you like RP or not. This thread is about stopping the bickering/hate/stupidity and joining together to make our country a truly free Republic once more.

What are your ideas? Suggestions?

If that is beyond you, then snarl somewhere else.
 

whit45

Contributing Member
Ender, I admire you trying to put the hand of peace out, but your just going to get slapped. It's way to soon. Some are still in the beginning of their tantrum, hate, disappointment, sadness, etc. to be reasonable.

As you have seen your words will be twisted and misinterpreted. I really think if the Lord himself would post right now even HE would come away with a black eye. LOL

So my advice to you is RUN, run for the hills as fast as you can!!!! Hurry now, I got your back! :sh1:

:lkick::lkick::lkick::lkick::lkick::lkick::lkick::lkick::lkick:
 

whit45

Contributing Member
LOL Your welcome! I've seen you wade into the cespool all day. I thought you need a break! LOL
 

dissimulo

Membership Revoked
The problem with putting a lot of effort into Ron Paul is that he's no spring chicken. By the time another four years rolls around, he may not be up for running for anything.

Who else is there who holds the same kind of values, who has any kind of recognizable name and track record? We need more than one man to build a movement around.
 

Ender

Inactive
Thanks Aardaerimus!

And I am in complete agreement, dissimulo.

I think RP will be a great mentor to a generation of people who are ready to know what the real political truths are.
 

Amaryllis

Inactive
Oh I support what you are trying to do Ender. I hope you didn't think I was flaming you with my depressing post. My moods have been up and down the past couple of days. :screw:
 

whit45

Contributing Member
dissimulo- Very True, but there are thousands of us that belong to this board. Surely if we all look hard enough we can find someone to get behind. Get the word out...I think looking at our local politicians can be a start.

Who here knows of a worthy local politican? Let's take the time to research. Lotta things in this world have been change by grassroots efforts. We may not all agree but we can put together a top 5 list of things they must support.

In the mean time we can scream bloody murder at those who are in office now. Get media attention on issue. We have SUCH a variety of people on this board in many different fields I don't see why it can't work. All it takes is Will.

Small steps!
 

Ender

Inactive
Great thoughts, whit45, and exactly the kind of thinking that is needed.

How hard is it to band together for a great cause? RP brought people together from all walks of live and political agendas.

I think we can all look for those who would make great leaders & be suitable to help restore our Constitutional Republic.
 

ohiohippie

Veteran Member
I worked my backside off trying to help get McCain elected in our little 3rd poorest county in Ohio. I figure I have the "right" to throw one heck of a fit, right now I am just to tired!!!

hip
 

Kritter

The one and only...
Oh I don't think Dr. Paul is planning on making anymore runs for Presidency, and I do base that on his age..but his ideals can stay alive and grow with our help..and young new candidates will emerge that will embrace his philosophy, and they will need our help and support.

Very few of the hater posters actually do any kind of politically active work other than write on this forum..so you just keep right on rallying the inspired and ignore the angery mobs, heh.

I wonder if we can identify who the young Paulites in politics are..and see what we can do to help them out in the coming years. I'll see if I can't find out the information for ya.
 

Ender

Inactive
There's nothing wrong with throwing a fit- only becoming nasty and bitter. Then it becomes impossible to become part of the solution.
 

cjoi

Veteran Member
If McCain had been elected and ruined the country it wouldn't have been on purpose.

bobama will ruin it, despoil it, destroy it, and it will be on purpose.

McCain is bad, but bobama is evil. No, you cannot convice me otherwise so stop trying.

Yes, ma'am.

Even if Mac was everything his detractors/enemies claimed, he's still better than the :bhmo: we pulled out of the poke.
 

Ender

Inactive
dabom,

THAT WAS AWESOME!!!

This dude has the right idea- I don't have to agree with all his choices to know he is on the money!
 

ohiohippie

Veteran Member
I am not angry or bitter ender, I am tired...
I probably just wrote the greatest post I have ever posted!!!

When I came back to this thread all that posted was one paragraph!:shr:

Oh well, at least I laughed for the first time in days!!:lol:

hip
 

nanna

Devil's Advocate
Perhaps I'm old fashioned, but it takes a lot for me to badmouth the President of the US.

As stupid as GWB is, I gave him the benefit of the doubt for years, before I would admit publically he's just plain dumb or worse.

IMO, whether or not one voted for Obama, he IS the POTUS, and deserves the respect of the office.

I think it's fascinating the remarks from so many different world leaders wrt to his election, and how many possibilities are now open to us, as a country, as a people, as to how we choose to engage with others.


nanna
 

Ender

Inactive
That's because you are a true lady, nanna.

ohiohippie,

Glad you can now laugh and when you are up to it- write that fabulous post again.

Peace,

Ender
 

Ender

Inactive
Oh I don't think Dr. Paul is planning on making anymore runs for Presidency, and I do base that on his age..but his ideals can stay alive and grow with our help..and young new candidates will emerge that will embrace his philosophy, and they will need our help and support.

Very few of the hater posters actually do any kind of politically active work other than write on this forum..so you just keep right on rallying the inspired and ignore the angery mobs, heh.

I wonder if we can identify who the young Paulites in politics are..and see what we can do to help them out in the coming years. I'll see if I can't find out the information for ya.
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Just saw this, Kitter. And THIS is exactly what this thread is about- working together.

You are awesome.
 

thompson

Certa Bonum Certamen
Very few of the hater posters actually do any kind of politically active work other than write on this forum..so you just keep right on rallying the inspired and ignore the angery mobs, heh.

Really now. You know this, how?

You don't know half of what you think you know.
 

rhughe13

Heart of Dixie
Both Obama and McCain voted for a $700 Billion dollar bailout on tax payer dollars. The only difference between the two is their color. Their policies are the same.

Unconstitutional.

What more could anyone ask of a socialist pig?
 

timbo

Deceased
Keep plugging away Ender, I'm your six.

Yep we are angry and disappointed......as we should be.

But NOW is the time to start looking, not in September of 2012.

Grass roots politics is the toughest because there is no big machine party like the pubs and dems have.

That is another big reason to start looking.
 

Ender

Inactive
Thanks, timbo, my friend. You are one of the sanest people I know on the net.

I believe if we look to 2012 now, we can make a difference.


Thompson-

I am going to answer you on MY thread, since SG has asked me to stay off of hers.

I was a kid when I joined the forum and lied about my age- not a minister, as I am now. And, even Abraham lied when it was appropriate.

You don't want to challenge me on the Good Book because it is something I know quite well.

So- I am asking you to back off and call it even.
 

thompson

Certa Bonum Certamen
Thanks, timbo, my friend. You are one of the sanest people I know on the net.

I believe if we look to 2012 now, we can make a difference.


Thompson-

I am going to answer you on MY thread, since SG has asked me to stay off of hers.

I was a kid when I joined the forum and lied about my age- not a minister, as I am now. And, even Abraham lied when it was appropriate.

You don't want to challenge me on the Good Book because it is something I know quite well.

So- I am asking you to back off and call it even.

[FONT=Verdana,Arial] You don't know half of what you think you know, son.

Keep James 3:1 in your foremost thoughts.




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diamonds

Administrator
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.....are merely flip sides of the same coin and in the same league as W- even RP is quoted as saying something similar on another thread-

So, if most of us know and understand this, why is there so much hate and negativity over Obama? I mean, what has really changed?

Why aren't we rallying together to make a difference and make sure that great leaders are ELECTED & supported?

Where was everyone 2 years ago when a strong support system for Liberty could have made a difference on Nov 4th?

Now is the TIME. let's stop fighting and become real men & women with purpose.

Ender you thought Obama was the best looking out of all three:shr:

http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showpost.php?p=2777027&postcount=65

I am getting really tired of hearing how they are both the same.. That would mean that Ron Paul was and would have been the same too if we use your broad cloth.. So lets include Ron Paul into this equation...........

All three different people with different ideas and different opinions..

All three have different goals and directions that they would have taken the USA..

All three also have different backgrounds...

All three have differences in how they were dealt with by the media...

All three have different types of people they associate with...

All three have differences in experience...

All three choose the way and level of information they were comfortable releasing to "we the people"...

Now can you say they are the same?

Personally do not believe in attacking other posters but I will however not tolerate hypocritical crap over the issue.. Lately I have seen quite a bit of that:shr: We have too many people here that has done it for years and now want to sing "lets get together-yah-yah-yah".. Only because he was their "man":lol:

However when it comes to Osama/Obama I will not stand down... I will examine every word he utters... I will watch every move he makes.. I will be very vocal in my displeasure.. As far as 2012 goes.. I started working on that the morning of the 5th and I will help fight him every inch of the way when his term is up..
 

medic38572

TB Fanatic
The problem with putting a lot of effort into Ron Paul is that he's no spring chicken. By the time another four years rolls around, he may not be up for running for anything.

Who else is there who holds the same kind of values, who has any kind of recognizable name and track record? We need more than one man to build a movement around.

Lamar Alexander
 

Ender

Inactive
Obama is not my man, Diamonds.

RP is & was.

Maybe you ought to compare the records of these three men, before you lump him in with McCain & Obama.

I am the one that has been advocating coming together to prepare for 2012 and I have been chewed up one side & down the other for it. I have been accused of racism, bad mouthing, stupidity, etc- for wanting to peacefully move ahead.

All I want is to support RP & like-minded people to make a difference in 2012.

If you want to sulk and moan, be my guest-
 

diamonds

Administrator
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Obama is not my man, Diamonds.

RP is & was.

Maybe you ought to compare the records of these three men, before you lump him in with McCain & Obama.

I am the one that has been advocating coming together to prepare for 2012 and I have been chewed up one side & down the other for it. I have been accused of racism, bad mouthing, stupidity, etc- for wanting to peacefully move ahead.

All I want is to support RP & like-minded people to make a difference in 2012.

If you want to sulk and moan, be my guest-

Ender it is not sulking or moaning.. It is pointing out a hypocritical view point.. You do not want to see RP lumped with the other two because you believed in him passionately and it just made you angry that I did that.. Some feel the same way you do and do not want to see their candidate compared to Osama/Obama:shr: Personally McCain was not my guy:shr:

If RP would have gotten it then you would not have a heard a peep out of me.. If McCain would have won then no-one would be hearing me vent either.. There are things in life I do tolerate because I am logical enough to see good and bad in different situations.. The creep we got does not fit into any equation of some good for the USA.. That is my honest opinion..

Now if you are serious about facing 2012 head on then the time is to start now.. My pick is Sarah Palin... I am hoping that if she refuses to run under the republican ticket that she will run under independent.. I have been individualing emailing some and bringing up the possibility..Also folowing some of them up with phone calls.. I have also been emailing her about it... Right now she feels that she needs to emotionally regroup but give her a couple of weeks and IMHO she will start thinking about it.. Of course everything is done below the radar:shr: Most do not know that the work starts all over again the next am after an election for the next race:lkick: Discussions start and thoughts flow freely.. My perfect ticket is Sarah and RP.. I pray that it can happen...
 

Ender

Inactive
I am not angry, diamonds, and I appreciate your POV.

A Palin/RP ticket has crossed my mind- only reversed.

I don't know enough about Palin- yet- to think of her as a presidential candidate.
 

diamonds

Administrator
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Ender we do not live in a perfect world.. Alot of people will not take it seriously if RP is first on the ticket because of his age.. I am sorry but it was one and just one of McCain's draw back.. For some reason age is now looked at as an infirmity instead of with respect.. Also no offence he has terrific ideas but he is not "the great communicator".. People have strength and weaknesses and it is time to use the strengths to the best advatage..

As it stands right now SP and RP share more ideals than they disagree on.. Together they could stand strong IMHO..
 

Ender

Inactive
And tht is exactly what this thread is about. Coming together to seek out those that we can rally with for 2012.

My POV is that RP won't run but will be a fantastic mentor.

I think we need someone charismatic, young and sharp in the Constitution, world affairs, and finances. AND smart enough to surround themselves with people brighter than they are.
 

diamonds

Administrator
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And tht is exactly what this thread is about. Coming together to seek out those that we can rally with for 2012.

my POV is that RP won't run but will be a fantastic mentor.

I think we need someone charismatic, young and sharp in the Constitution, world affairs, and finances. AND smart enough to surround themselves with people brighter than they are.


SP already considers him a mentor but I am not giving up my hope for the ticket yet...:lkick:
 
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