SO MOST OF US KNOW THAT MCCAIN & OBAMA....

Ender

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.....are merely flip sides of the same coin and in the same league as W- even RP is quoted as saying something similar on another thread-

So, if most of us know and understand this, why is there so much hate and negativity over Obama? I mean, what has really changed?

Why aren't we rallying together to make a difference and make sure that great leaders are ELECTED & supported?

Where was everyone 2 years ago when a strong support system for Liberty could have made a difference on Nov 4th?

Now is the TIME. let's stop fighting and become real men & women with purpose.
 
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RobinYyes

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If McCain had been elected and ruined the country it wouldn't have been on purpose.

bobama will ruin it, despoil it, destroy it, and it will be on purpose.

McCain is bad, but bobama is evil. No, you cannot convice me otherwise so stop trying.
 
Mrs Smith

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Put a sock in it Ender. Go sing kumbaya somewhere else.

Most of us DO NOT, and WILL NOT support this man as president. I think we respect the position, but you cannot force us to respect the person in it.
 
Bassfisher1964

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Ender said:
.....are merely flip sides of the same coin and in the same league as W- even RP is quoted as saying something similar on another thread-

So, if most of us know and understand this, why is there so much hate and negativity over Obama? I mean, what has really changed?

Why aren't we rallying together to make a difference and make sure that great leaders are supported?

Where was everyone 2 years ago when a strong support system for Liberty could have made a difference on Nov 4th?

Now is the TIME. let's stop fighting and become real men & women with purpose.
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Ender, are you suggesting we all get behind Obama because he is the president or are you suggesting if we don't like the current parties, we should support an independent?
 
Hansa44

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RobinYyes said:
If McCain had been elected and ruined the country it wouldn't have been on purpose.

bobama will ruin it, despoil it, destroy it, and it will be on purpose.

McCain is bad, but bobama is evil. No, you cannot convice me otherwise so stop trying.
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Uuuuuummmmm,:confused:
 
Ender

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Put a sock in it Ender. Go sing kumbaya somewhere else.

Most of us DO NOT, and WILL NOT support this man as president. I think we respect the position, but you cannot force us to respect the person in it.
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Where did you read that I am suggesting to support Obama?

I am suggesting that if we don't get over ourselves and get organized, and support leaders of liberty- LIKE RON PAUL!!!!!!- 2012 will be no different- if there even is a 2012.
 
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Ender said:
Where did you read that I am suggesting to support Obama?

I am suggesting that if we don't get over ourselves and get organized, and support leaders of liberty- LIKE RON PAUL!!!!!!- 2012 will be no different- if there even is a 2012.
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Ender - o says he will be in office for 8 to 10 years. That is more than enough time to destroy our beloved Country.
 
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Ender said:
Where did you read that I am suggesting to support Obama?

I am suggesting that if we don't get over ourselves and get organized, and support leaders of liberty- LIKE RON PAUL!!!!!!- 2012 will be no different- if there even is a 2012.
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Nope.


Organization to me is letting the likes of Obama know that there are groups of people that are violently opposed to his plans, and that he will face armed insurrection if he tries to implement forced mandatory "community service" or gun confiscation, amongst others of his plans.

Let Ron Paul be Ron Paul, a warning beacon and reminder of what this country is supposed to represent. I don't believe RP has any further desire to be President.

Elections have ended their usefulness.

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Mrs Smith

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Well if that's not what your intention was, then I apologize, but that's the only interpretation I got out of your post, and found zero ability to support it.

My give-a-damn's busted.
 
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Ender said:
.....are merely flip sides of the same coin and in the same league as W- even RP is quoted as saying something similar on another thread-

So, if most of us know and understand this, why is there so much hate and negativity over Obama? I mean, what has really changed?

Why aren't we rallying together to make a difference and make sure that great leaders are supported?

Where was everyone 2 years ago when a strong support system for Liberty could have made a difference on Nov 4th?

Now is the TIME. let's stop fighting and become real men & women with purpose.
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Ender, I think you make a good point. Instead of us all being so hateful to each other, we need to get united to save this country. I did not support Obama or McCain. Obama was elected so we need to accept that and try to make changes which will start in 2010.

Norma
 
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Might that have been the image with side-by-side photos of how B. Hussein Obama and John McCain spent their youth? At about age 20 we see young McCain in his military dress uniform, and at the same age B. Hussein is pictured celebrating in a Kenyan/Arab robe and head-dress.

FLF

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Ender said:
.....are merely flip sides of the same coin and in the same league as W- even RP is quoted as saying something similar on another thread-

So, if most of us know and understand this, why is there so much hate and negativity over Obama? I mean, what has really changed?

Why aren't we rallying together to make a difference and make sure that great leaders are supported?

Where was everyone 2 years ago when a strong support system for Liberty could have made a difference on Nov 4th?

Now is the TIME. let's stop fighting and become real men & women with purpose.
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think.....real hard.......

you know the answer to your question.

don't be afraid to make the jump!
 
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FlyLadyFan said:
Might that have been the image with side-by-side photos of how B. Hussein Obama and John McCain spent their youth? At about age 20 we see young McCain in his military dress uniform, and at the same age B. Hussein is pictured celebrating in a Kenyan/Arab robe and head-dress.

FLF

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dimensiondancer

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If you are still harping on 3rd party, like I said before, pick one!

There were eight people running on 8 different parties that could have been called "the third party". If that doesn't eventually wash down to fewer choices then it's still the same old, same old useless way of operation.

If you have all people chosing one of those 8 and then still have the other 2 (dem/rep), how in beejezes are you going to get enough of any percentile to win???

Especially with each state showing either none of the 3rd parties and others just a few or maybe all.

Like I said before, it is too soon and too unorganized to be happening now and to think it could have happened in 2008 is sheer stupidity.
 
dimensiondancer

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Ender said:
TThe last I heard, RP ran on the Repub ticket.
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That is right, and he didn't get much over 5-8% so you guys were hoping him to take a 3rd party chance, but instead he dropped out then endorsed all other sub-parties, McKinney, Barr, Baldwin and so on.

Paul had many Democratic backers and I know a few Paulites here that voted for Obama. Paul never seemed to me to be conservative Repub anyway, proof is how some of you changed back to the demo party.

So what's your point? If you want great leaders elected, why'd you vote Obama?
 
Ender

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Why are you saying "you"? I am not a Dem.

And it looks like the Rep Party is dead; it has committed suicide.
 
dimensiondancer

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Ender said:
RON PAUL.
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So Ron Paul was the presidental choice for republican party. Oh Sh!T! To think I thought it McCain!

Ron Paul was not running, and therefore it was a Stuart Smalley vote to make you feel good. Self gratification.....so I guess it does feel good.

I will not support Obama.
 

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Ender, go read my thread. I said the very same thing....nobody has to support Obama if they don't want to. Certainly they don't have to like him. Just please stop hating other people for the way they voted.

You're going to get bashed, the same way I did, and told what they think you think and what they think you know by everyone who posts here.

I'm sorry, in advance.
 
Kritter

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Ender, Youtube videos worked really well for Dr. Paul.. and I think they can work well to keep his message alive for the coming years. I don't have the equipment / software to make them..but if you, I'd love to help come up with themes and script for them. At yer service! *bows*
 
dimensiondancer

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I can't figure out why Ender wants us to support Obama when he didn't vote for him.

McCain is NOT the same as Obama. One went to a racial church and was raised and adored by muslims and a communist uncle. The other was a tortured war hero.

Both are too damn liberal for my likings, but they are NOT ALIKE.

Don't even go there with that one.

Ron Paul is older than McCain, and for support in the future - good luck with that. He would be too old to run.
 
Ender

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So Ron Paul was the presidental choice for republican party. Oh Sh!T! To think I thought it McCain!

Ron Paul was not running, and therefore it was a Stuart Smalley vote to make you feel good. Self gratification.....so I guess it does feel good.

I will not support Obama.
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WOW. THAT'S AN AMAZING ANALOGY.

I speak of us being united to bring Liberty back to our country and support men, like RP and anyone else that is viable, to become electable presidential candidates. And you still say you are not supporting Obama.

What the hell has that got to do with this thread?
 
dimensiondancer

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What does it have to do with this thread? I am not the only one that has posted in that direction.. go read.

McCain and Obama are NOT THE SAME>

I would never compare McCain, a war hero and VietNam vet to

Barrack, who was born a muslim, adored his communist uncle, took in values from Rev. Wright's Black Theology and hated the fact we cling to our guns and bibles. Hung around with terrorist and Black Panthers too, by the way.

Both are too liberal, but I support and respect McCain.

NO, they are not the same coin.
 
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dimensiondancer said:
What does it have to do with this thread? I am not the only one that has posted in that direction.. go read.

McCain and Obama are NOT THE SAME>

I would never compare McCain, a war hero and VietNam vet to
NO, they are not the same coin.
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Ender. I agree with you. We need to work together to get us off the current path.

DD, He didn't say Obama and McCain are the same. The Republican and the Democratic platforms lead us to the same place just by different roads.
 
Ender

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McCain and Obama are NOT THE SAME>

I would never compare McCain, a war hero and VietNam vet to

Barrack, who was born a muslim, adored his communist uncle, took in values from Rev. Wright's Black Theology and hated the fact we cling to our guns and bibles. Hung around with terrorist and Black Panthers too, by the way.

Both are too liberal, but I support and respect McCain.
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We disagree.

But the answer is not to hate and hurt others; the answer is to organize and make sure that a man of integrity- along with a congress- gets in the White House.

Otherwise, we are doomed.
 
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dimensiondancer said:
What does it have to do with this thread? I am not the only one that has posted in that direction.. go read.

McCain and Obama are NOT THE SAME>

I would never compare McCain, a war hero and VietNam vet to

Barrack, who was born a muslim, adored his communist uncle, took in values from Rev. Wright's Black Theology and hated the fact we cling to our guns and bibles. Hung around with terrorist and Black Panthers too, by the way.

Both are too liberal, but I support and respect McCain.

NO, they are not the same coin.
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Pretty much sums it up. One candidate busted his chops for his country, and the other is some kind of reality show contestant promoted by the media.


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homepark

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Yes, Dimension. It is also important to realize that the POTUS, without any Constitutional changes, is going to have the same restraints as all the other Presidents, regardless of party affiliation. Ascribing that fact to some silly notion of a conspiracy, is, well, silly.

EVEN Ron Paul would be faced with that should he end up in that seat. However, for that to happen, Ron Paul would have to get honest about party affiliation.
 
Sligo

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We are all so busy screaming at each other, none of us will see the sh%t falling down on our heads from the sky. Sounds like a place our enemies would want us. Screw who the president is - this country is made up of WE THE PEOPLE. We have to pull together or we will die together.
 
dimensiondancer

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Ender said:
This TB Thread is basically saying the same thing I am saying.
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That thread has RP saying Obama will bring us the NWO!!

Why didn't you say so, I totally believe it. He will do his change and then hand us over to the UN, or at least he may want to. He skinny ass is in deep shit if he tries it though.

I never saw in this thread where it related to BO/NWO/UN ??
 
almost ready

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McCain had failings

but he was on our side

Rev. Wright and his God Damn America wasn't a fluke, it was the heart and soul of Obama's universe. It is a travesty to let that man walk over the threshold of the white house door. Ever.
 
Amaryllis

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I personally couldn't support either Senator's past actions. McCain supported Amnesty. I hated it. Obama supported funding the UN. I hated it.

So all I could base a vote on was the person, the life, the character of each individual. McCain- veteran, POW, long time senator. Obama- writer, lawyer, community organizer.

I chose to vote for the man who fought for my country. I guess to answer your question, for me it's not hate, it's just surprise and disappointment.

I was surprised that others didn't make the same choice. It just kind of shows me that people don't care about those who have defend them, those who have worked for them their whole entire lives. They don't value service. That is just not what's important to many segments of this country. The demographics have changed. I'll try to change with it. I'll try to instill a different set of values into my children. The new set of values. I don't agree with them, but I'll try my best to adapt.

Not hate at all. Just shock and disappointment.
 
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