RACE WAR Salvation Army wants white donors to offer a "sincere apology" for their racism

WildDaisy

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moldy said:
Jesus doesnt' see colors, but evidently the SA does. So sad - guess my donations this year will go to the Union Rescue Mission, St. Jude's, and Cal Farley's.
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I only give to church missions, Marine's Toys for Tots, and St Jude. At least I know every cent at TFT and St Jude goes to what it is meant for and not into someone's pocket. There are a few good-quality charities out there, but not many anymore. Usually, when you give, it goes to pay for someone's million-dollar home.
 
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Might I suggest folks consider NOT contributing to Catholic Charities who are responsible for a huge portion of the illegal immigrant situation in the country? The religion is fine, the Marxist Communists who have hijacked the charity and are trying to destroy America aren't!
 
colonel holman

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Jerry799 said:
Might I suggest folks consider NOT contributing to Catholic Charities who are responsible for a huge portion of the illegal immigrant situation in the country? The religion is fine, the Marxists who have hijacked the charity aren't!
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Was raised catholic.
Catholic Charities responsible for enabling mass migration of “refugees” all across the US, to import more Catholics into communities and to gain NGO grants and to build support of democrat party which supports their efforts. Importing demo voters, importing catholics, feeding off gov grants. Also they need the $$$$ to pay for their child sexual abuse claims.
 
pauldingbabe

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bethshaya said:
I only give to church missions, Marine's Toys for Tots, and St Jude. At least I know every cent at TFT and St Jude goes to what it is meant for and not into someone's pocket. There are a few good-quality charities out there, but not many anymore. Usually, when you give, it goes to pay for someone's million-dollar home.
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You can also make targeted donations.

There are several places to donate locally where I live.

Sometimes I will go in to a thrift shop and buy things I can make better then donate it back so they can make a little bit of money off of a lot of the trash people donate.

I like the challenge of turning one man's trash into another man's treasure. Clothes that just stack up on the racks don't do anyone any good sitting there. I've bought a bunch of t-shirts and made braided rugs, taken pants and made nice shorts (sometimes with a bit of trim left over from other things), dress clothes can be tricky but just changing the buttons and tailoring them a bit can make an item look new. Children's clothes can be made over with a little creativity.

I really like to remake old formal gowns for those who can't afford new. You wouldn't believe the joy I have seen from people who have never had anything fine for themselves.

I also make Halloween costumes and donate them. That is just FUN! Or getting to see the smile of a young woman with her first "little black dress" or homecoming dress, prom dress, and even remade wedding gowns. It brings joy to me to see that light in them. I pray that they also learn how to pass it forward.

Give a little light, receive a little light. Do what you can when you can.

Please don't count on other people to do the right thing within these mega charities. I think the charities are laundering money.
 
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Griz3752

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intothatgoodnight said:
What?

There are no needy folks in your AO?
Donate directly, and locally.
Food banks/soup kitchens, medical needs/costs/supplies, clothing, shelter costs, job training/placement programs, transportation needs, in-home care of the infirm/elderly, etc. - all need funding.
Do the homework/leg work - vet the need and/or the local organization - monitor results.
intothegoodnight
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We do that now; coats for kids, vet support and medical supplies ($$$ mostly as I think they get more for 100.00 than I ever will)

I was asking if someone had a reliable agency in that area because my wife wants to direct some $$$ there

But thanks for the harangue; I'll keep it in mind.
 
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intothatgoodnight

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Griz3752 said:
We do that now; coats for kids, vet support and medical supplies ($$$ mostly as I think they get more for 100.00 than I ever will)

I was asking if someone had a reliable agency in that area because my wife wants to direct some $$$ there

But thanks for the harangue; I'll keep it in mind.
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Harangue?

No. (kindly reread your comment, which prompted my response)


intothegoodnight
 
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Griz3752 said:
We do that now; coats for kids, vet support and medical supplies ($$$ mostly as I think they get more for 100.00 than I ever will)

I was asking if someone had a reliable agency in that area because my wife wants to direct some $$$ there

But thanks for the harangue; I'll keep it in mind.
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Maybe look for a local church contact info (local to Mayfield) and talk to them... I'm sure they could help.

Summerthyme
 
Griz3752

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summerthyme said:
Might want to check their founder's accounts... seems she bought 3 mansions...

Summerthyme
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Is that Patreese & her Jamaican/Trinidadian/Canadian not-sure-what-you-call-it significant other? A friend in Regina sent me a link but there's enough abherrant behaviour right around the corner, I never bothered following the link ......
 
lonestar09

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We get a lot of winter Texans in this area. Usually they are the ones who are working at the kettles. So far this year I have not seen a single white peson working a kettle. And I know the winter texans are here already.
 
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Jerry799 said:
Might I suggest folks consider NOT contributing to Catholic Charities who are responsible for a huge portion of the illegal immigrant situation in the country? The religion is fine, the Marxist Communists who have hijacked the charity and are trying to destroy America aren't!
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Yep

they bring in people straight from Africa, then in my area they contact ALL denominations and start pressuring people to sponsor someone and have them live in their home. Many have done just that, but the Catholic Church organization doesn't stop it's continuous, constant never stops. The parishioners while generous are getting a feeling they are being pressured, constant flow of people from the Catholic organization.
 
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Griz3752 said:
Is that Patreese & her Jamaican/Trinidadian/Canadian not-sure-what-you-call-it significant other? A friend in Regina sent me a link but there's enough abherrant behaviour right around the corner, I never bothered following the link ......
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Damm they do that a lot in Sask. Seems like the farmers get roped in could you use another hand on the farm?
 
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intothatgoodnight

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Double_A said:
Yep

they bring in people straight from Africa, then in my area they contact ALL denominations and start pressuring people to sponsor someone and have them live in their home. Many have done just that, but the Catholic Church organization doesn't stop it's continuous, constant never stops. The parishioners while generous are getting a feeling they are being pressured, constant flow of people from the Catholic organization.
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This tactic of pressuring is subversive and anti-constitutional - attempting to use emotional appeal of being "a good Christian," perhaps peer pressure (if I don't acquiesce to their constant calling, what will my priest/fellow Catholics think of me?) while undermining/stealing U.S. citizen birthrights with regards to moving/relocating illegal aliens into the U.S. interior.

The illegal aliens may vote in future elections, while costing the U.S. taxpayer, payable to either Catholic Charities and/or the illegal aliens, themselves - in the form of housing, medical, food, education, etc. - a wholly treasonous act, in and of itself.


intothegoodnight
 
Haybails

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CaryC said:
So it's not about BIBLICAL doctrine, then.

Whether anyone agrees with their Biblical doctrine is beside the point. The point is, if THEY thought it was Biblical doctrine, THEY should have stuck by it, or not published the guide, or published the guide and stuck by it.

Since it is not about BIBLICAL doctrine, what is it about?

1) Fitting in with the culture crowd (meaning they didn't want to be singled out, and be canceled)

2) M-O-N-E-Y

And being a "Christian" organization they don't remember this one simple verse that even non-Christians can quote:

"...the LOVE OF MONEY, is the root of all evil...."

Makes one wonder how much of the Bible they really do know. Wonder if they know this one:

"...I would that you were cold or hot, but since you were neither, but luke warm, I will spew you out of my mouth...."

Sorry for the soap box, this kind of stuff just burns the hair off my head.
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Did you go to the article and read the quoted retraction/non-retraction? What a laugh. This is why people no longer trust . . . well . . . anyone. A simple 'we messed up' or 'we made a mistake' is no longer presented. These days is spin and verbal jousting and a word salad or 'may', 'might', 'incorrectly misconstrued' nonsense.

HB
 
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Panner said:
This will be the first Christmas that the Salvation Army will not get a penny from me. I am 75 and remember putting money in the kettle since I was a little kid. I will remember what they did this Christmas for the rest of my life.
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Leaves a hole in you doesn't it? It does me, cause I know people who 'need' will go without. But they say that fasting is good for the body, maybe Salvation Army needs to go on a donations "Fast"
 
Dennis Olson

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Just sent them an email:

Good day.

In past years, I have donated generously to your organization. However, your embracing of Social Justice Warriors and Critical Race Theory has made it impossible for me to continue my giving to your org. Your "retraction" was too little, too late, and let's be honest: it was a non-retraction. Just enough to try and paper over SA's selling out to the woke mob, Antifa, and BurnLootMurder.

So, in lieu of a donation, I would like to offer a sincere apology for being white, and for having white privilege (said privilege being milked by governments to support BIPoCs for decades via entitlement programs.)

I'm sorry I'm white. And I'm sorry that I once supported the SA. You're on your own.

Get Woke, Go Broke™

Dennis
 
Dennis Olson

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Because corporate "social justice" scores are becoming a thing (it's called the CSR score). They almost have no freakin choice. But you know, at some point, some org or other is going to have to stand up and shout, "NO MORE! THIS IS IT! WE'RE DONE!" And mean it. Then this whole mess will start to crumble. But as of yet, no company has the sack for it.
 
Doomer Doug

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The chinese social score will apply everywhere now as the deep state tightens its coils, much like a python does.

The Salvation Army may make at least some of the lost money from Soros and the government, ESPECIALLY if they water down Jesus to make him more inclusive, not homophobic and loves transgenders.:dstrs:

All part of the plan. What we are witnessing is a CULTURAL GENOCIDE that is more lethal than a tactical nuke. Christmas just lost some of its ambiance, plus another chunk of the Christian aspect got gutted. Really, I bet they eliminate the red buckets and bell ringing next year and blame it on Trump.:lol:

Destroy the culture and you destroy the people. Plus ALL the poor Salvation Army helped will now go on the government dole just as planned.
 
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Double_A

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Doomer Doug said:
The chinese social score will apply everywhere now as the deep state tightens its coils, much like a python does.

The Salvation Army may make at least some of the lost money from Soros and the government, ESPECIALLY if they water down Jesus to make him more inclusive, not homophobic and loves transgenders.:dstrs:

All part of the plan. What we are witnessing is a CULTURAL GENOCIDE that is more lethal than a tactical nuke. Christmas just lost some of its ambiance, plus another chunk of the Christian aspect got gutted. Really, I bet they eliminate the red buckets and bell ringing next year and blame it on Trump.:lol:

Destroy the culture and you destroy the people. Plus ALL the poor Salvation Army helped will now go on the government dole just as planned.
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A very powerful statement. It's true and it gives me such a heavy heart.
 
Doomer Doug

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One more thing not exclusive to Salvation Army. I gave my Thanksgiving gift around October 15th and my Christmas gift around November 15th to give them some lead time. Each of those was $25 for the dinner, and another $50 for Christmas.
No notice by Salvation Army for several weeks for any of those checks. What I did get was ANOTHER whining solicitation for both Thanksgiving and Christmas. It was I sent 3 and they sent 6 to 9 asking for more money. So pfust on them. :arg:
 
Griz3752

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Dennis Olson said:
Just sent them an email:

Good day.

In past years, I have donated generously to your organization. However, your embracing of Social Justice Warriors and Critical Race Theory has made it impossible for me to continue my giving to your org. Your "retraction" was too little, too late, and let's be honest: it was a non-retraction. Just enough to try and paper over SA's selling out to the woke mob, Antifa, and BurnLootMurder.

So, in lieu of a donation, I would like to offer a sincere apology for being white, and for having white privilege (said privilege being milked by governments to support BIPoCs for decades via entitlement programs.)

I'm sorry I'm white. And I'm sorry that I once supported the SA. You're on your own.

Get Woke, Go Broke™

Dennis
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May I plagiarise that?

Pretty well sums up my feelings on the topic.
I think I'll throw in scans of some previous donation cheques; they weren't huge but they were consistent.
 
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Griz3752

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Doomer Doug said:
One more thing not exclusive to Salvation Army. I gave my Thanksgiving gift around October 15th and my Christmas gift around November 15th to give them some lead time. Each of those was $25 for the dinner, and another $50 for Christmas.
No notice by Salvation Army for several weeks for any of those checks. What I did get was ANOTHER whining solicitation for both Thanksgiving and Christmas. It was I sent 3 and they sent 6 to 9 asking for more money. So pfust on them. :arg:
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Sad lesson but, a lesson learned . . . . well, by you; I don't think they got the point - yet
 
magnetic1

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The St Vincent de Paul Society around here is fantastic. St Vincent’s helps people with so much - right down to heating bills and free medical clinics. I used to split my donations between St Vinnie’s and the Salvation Army and now will drop donating to SA.

I stopped to talk to the bell ringer the other evening and asked her how donations were going. She said way down and can’t find bell ringers. I mentioned how the Woke policy had infuriated so many. She told me she was only there to help her daughter who was on her first year of managing the district and that she would be going right home to look up what I told her, because she hadn’t heard about that. I said I am sorry for your daughter - bad year to start! The gal was not happy and blurted out no way she would apologize for being white. LOL, prolly wrecked her mood for the rest of her shift….
 
Lilbitsnana

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Border Collie Dad said:
My money is racist.

Have that black scammer from BLM that has multiple multi-million $$$ homes make up the shortfall.
Or some of the other race hustlers
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Salvation Army must have thought my money was racist too.

I give multiple times of the year during various holiday times to the MS/AL region and as hurricanes, floods, etc happen for specific events across the US.

When I donated mid November, it popped up a survey before transaction was completed that I had never seen before. It asked my race, a couple other questions and the last one was basically would I apologize for being white; my answer was "no". (don't remember exact wording)

My donation went thru and was accepted and then I got a notice that my credit card had been rejected. ok, weird.
I did it two more times and they were rejected.

I called my credit card company. I had made five or six donations to other groups that day and thought maybe the card had been flagged. My card had not been flagged. She said the first two donation attempts had indeed been accepted by SA and then voided/rejected by SA and that the third attempt had not been accepted at all by Salvation Army.

On November 28, the national SA sent me an email. (see below; bold is mine)
They shouldn't have cancelled my donation if the claims were false. The only thing I had done was refuse to apologize for being white in the survey. No other explanation for them not accepting my donation. I have made donations for almost 40 years.

Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas

This special time of year is a welcome reminder of the things we are grateful for—and for the power of service on behalf of those who are less fortunate. Without your support of time and generosity, The Salvation Army would not be able to serve 30 million people each year who are in need.

Despite that good work, you may be aware of some recent attacks on The Salvation Army that misrepresent our beliefs on race and racism. Some individuals and groups have attempted to mislabel our organization to serve their own agenda(s). They have claimed that we believe our donors should apologize for their skin color, that The Salvation Army believes America is an inherently racist society, and that our organization has abandoned its beliefs for one ideology or another.

We wanted you to hear from The Salvation Army directly that those claims are false, and they distort the very goal of our work. We invite you to read The Salvation Army's full response to these claims here.

You can be sure that, despite these false claims, we remain undeterred in our mission because vulnerable Americans need our help—and yours. We remain deeply grateful for the support of a generous public—people from all walks of life and from all parts of the country—who help us meet human need wherever it exists. God bless you, and Happy Holidays.
 
Griz3752

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I just re-read the "Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas; This special time of year is a welcome reminder of the things we are grateful for....."

In no way does this sound like an apology, or even a walking-back of the insult, requesting White people apologise for being White & Racist.

I know Racism exists; I've never understood it but it's there. I also know it is not a White-only thing and personally experienced 'reverse discrimination'; too long and inappropriate to go into here. I've witnessed Racist activity by every race against all others and I'm not alone or unique there.

For SA to deliver such a condemnation of all White people and then have the gall to ignore how justified the reaction is (tightening of donation purse strings being almost immediate) or issuing an actual apology, indicates my reaction was correct.

There's an axiom I followed in business; never do business with a competitor. I extrapolate that to include never support an entity or group which wants to inhibit or in some way curtail your rights. If they falsely accuse me of something, they're doubly damned in my eyes.

If this Woke stance SA has taken inhibits them in the future, so be it.

I preach responsibility for one's actions and live by that. If I'm wrong, that's it; obviously I didn't have all the information I needed but I can correct that. SA seems to have moved off a path I can support so, I'm done with them.

This is probably the last time I'll even think of the organisation.

JMO & worth what it cost you get.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you all.
Hopefully 2022 is the 1st step towards removing the Socialist boot so many want to put on our necks.
 
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