POL Propaganda About Ebola--Lies We Are Being Told

Bolt

FJB
On CNN now... ID doc on plane out of service explaining how safe air travel is. Gist is "oh, the likelihood of someone sneezing and touching a surface and then having another passenger touch the same surface then then their mouth, eyes or other body part is unlikely". She goes on to say that they clean the planes. I can't think of ANY time I have seen them clean a plane beyond picking up the garbage the previous passengers left laying about. NO WAY are they disinfecting anything. She says the effective way to kill Ebola is with a chlorine bleach solution "such as they are doing in Ebola stricken countries". Yeah lady, I'm certain they come through and clean an entire plane with a bleach solution, even the fabric.
These lies are going to kill people.
 

R.Tist

Membership Revoked
On CNN now... ID doc on plane out of service explaining how safe air travel is. Gist is "oh, the likelihood of someone sneezing and touching a surface and then having another passenger touch the same surface then then their mouth, eyes or other body part is unlikely". She goes on to say that they clean the planes. I can't think of ANY time I have seen them clean a plane beyond picking up the garbage the previous passengers left laying about. NO WAY are they disinfecting anything. She says the effective way to kill Ebola is with a chlorine bleach solution "such as they are doing in Ebola stricken countries". Yeah lady, I'm certain they come through and clean an entire plane with a bleach solution, even the fabric.
These lies are going to kill people.

Disinfection is good, but STEAM CLEANING everything on a plane or in an apartment - and I mean with high-powered steam cleaning jets - will effectively kill ALL pathogens. Steam is what's used in Bio-level Four facilities to clean the suits of virologists. Disinfection of planes is done routinely, but it's usually the 'Lysol' level of protection - hardly sufficient when there's a global virus on the loose.

Artie.
 

helen

Panic Sex Lady
Ask any school teacher how difficult it is to control head lice in an elementary classroom.

 

R.Tist

Membership Revoked
Ask any school teacher how difficult it is to control head lice in an elementary classroom.


Ask any mother in Scotland!

My mother was a clean freak and kept us all spotless, and yet I had lice five times in my childhood. I had extremely long hair too, and she wouldn't buy the shampoo that killed the nits (too embarrassed); she used a bone comb instead. Talk about a headache! :rolleyes:

Artie.
 

helen

Panic Sex Lady
Hospital-acquired infections are so common now as to be considered out of control.

We're doomed ...


Panic Sex Lady needs a Panic Sex Cadre to keep up with it all ...
 

Possible Impact

TB Fanatic
Hospital-acquired infections are so common now as to be considered out of control.

We're doomed ...


Panic Sex Lady needs a Panic Sex Cadre to keep up with it all ...

I first thought you said Padre, and then thought:
WOW, that's a lot of confessing, to need a full time Padre!
 

Illini Warrior

Illini Warrior
sure sign of the level of seriousness .... watch the activities of the celebrities, politicians and power brokers .... they won't be getting on any public transportation unless it's 100% safe .... and they'll have access to the strait dope .... when they start canceling appearances (and into hiding) or hear about uber VIP jet arrangements ..... get deadly serious
 

Border Collie

Deceased
Thought I would start a thread to keep tract of the lies.

For instance, right now I am watching CNN and they have an "expert" answering questions about Ebola. I am pretty sure he just lied twice.
.......


May that man reap what he has sown.


Here's the transcript:
http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1410/04/cnr.02.html

A snip of the above referenced interview:
[Bold/Hightlighting mine]

WHITFIELD: All right. Many of you have been tweeting your ebola questions to #ebolaqanda. Well next we re have an infectious disease specialist from the Emory School of Medicine here to answer your questions up next.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK) WHITFIELD: This morning many of you have been tweeting questions about ebola to us here at CNN. #ebolaqanda.

Dr. Marshall Lyon is an infectious disease specialist at Emory University. And back in August he treated Dr. Kent Brantly when he was the first ebola patient to be flown back to the U.S. for treatment Emory University Hospital.

Dr. Lyon is going to be with us throughout the hour to answer your questions about that. So before we get to some of those questions, let me ask you about Thomas Duncan and the treatment he is likely receiving in Texas, in Dallas. Of course, he didn't get the Z-Mapp like Dr. Brantly and even Ms. Writebol received before receiving treatment at Emory University Hospital.

There was another patient who was getting treatment in Nebraska. He had a transfusion from Dr. Brantly. What's different about Mr. Thomas Duncan's case and treatment?

DR. MARSHALL LYON, EMORY UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL: Well, my understanding is the mainstay of treatment is supportive care. So making sure that the fluid balance is correct. With a lot of vomiting and diarrhea this can be tough to manage. Making sure that the electrolytes or the salt balance is maintained. Correcting any bleeding orders that might happen and making sure that the blood product -- so platelets, red blood cells are in balance as well and don't get too low. That is the primary focus of it.

The question of experimental treatments like Dr. Brantly and Nancy Writebol got. You know, whether those are available or not -- I don't know at this point in time whether they are available to Presbyterian Hospital.

WHITFIELD: So when we hear from the White House yesterday where we had a number of representatives of various public healthcare for the U.S. say that every hospital in the country has the potential for isolation care. If a patient were to be diagnosed with ebola, they can go to any hospital in the country and receive the right kind of care and isolation without putting other patients in jeopardy?

LYON: They should. Hospitals all across the country can isolate patients for any number of reasons. We isolate them for different organisms -- tuberculosis, chickenpox, MRSA -- those are things that are probably fairly familiar to most public. But Ebola obviously is a little special but isolation principles are still in play and any hospital ought to be able to implement those.

WHITFIELD: Ok. So let's now entertain some of those questions coming from our viewers. First one being, "If someone with ebola has been somewhere before you, say a plane or a bathroom, how long can ebola live on a surface?"

LYON: Despite the severe disease that ebola can cause in humans it is a really wimpy virus it. It does not last for very long on environmental surfaces at all. So at most -- 30 to 60 minutes before it is dead.

WHITFIELD: So why is it so lethal then?

LYON: Well, it's lethal because of what it does inside the body and the body's response to the virus. As the immune system ramps up it releases a lot of these things called cytokines, and those cytokines are what cause fever, leaky blood vessels, drop in blood pressure and that is why it's so fatal.

WHITFIELD: The other question from a viewer that was tweeted to us, "What kills the virus?"

LYON: Alcohol kills the virus, soap and water.

WHITFIELD: You mean like a rubbing alcohol.

LYON: Yes. Or those like, you know, no endorsement here, Purell, those hand antiseptics, soap and water will kill it, bleach kills the virus. It's actually pretty easy to kill.

WHITFIELD: And those seem like things that are very accessible here in the States and perhaps why in Sierra Leone, Liberia and Guinea, there was a lack of that kind of supply and so that helped with the spread?

LYON: Absolutely and not every place has running water in those countries that you just mentioned whereas here in the United States, we have running water all over the place. We also have soap and bleach and alcohol hand rubs are very accessible to most Americans. Not accessible in West Africa.

WHITFIELD: And another question that we received via tweet. "When do ebola symptoms start? And what are they?"

LYON: Ebola symptoms typically start anywhere from -- we say the range is 2 to 21 days. Most often it is 6-11, 6-12 days in that range after exposure. And the most common symptoms up front are fever and headache and muscle aches -- so very nondescript. Many people describe this as flu like. However you have to have that exposure to someone who's had ebola. So for the vast majority of Americans, if they develop a fever at this point in time, no exposure to someone with ebola.

WHITFIELD: I think that is why so many are nervous because a lot of the symptoms you describe sound like it could be a cold, it could be a flu, it could be any number of viruses that people are typically used to. Especially as we enter the fall and winter months.

LYON: Absolutely. And that exposure is key. And it has to be someone who is sick with ebola. The person who has ebola is not infectious until they develop symptoms. And there is not secondary transmission, like I know someone who knows someone who had ebola. That is not being exposed.

WHITFIELD: It has to be direct.

LYON: Direct exposure. WHITFIELD: All right. Dr. Marshall Lyon, thanks so much. We're

going to be back a little bit later on in the hour. He is going to answer more questions that are coming in via tweet. Remember you can tweet your questions for Dr. Lyon to #ebolaqanda and we'll try to get on as many as we can. Thanks so much.


Cytokines - where have I heard that term before? Hmmm.
That part is true.
Best means to address those is Curcumin with Bioperine

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Kook

A 'maker', not a 'taker'!
Ask any mother in Scotland!

My mother was a clean freak and kept us all spotless, and yet I had lice five times in my childhood. I had extremely long hair too, and she wouldn't buy the shampoo that killed the nits (too embarrassed); she used a bone comb instead. Talk about a headache! :rolleyes:

Artie.

My folks would drive two parishes (Counties in Louisiana) over to buy the shampoo to keep "Mrs. Anderson" from talking all about it in church. (If you could legally call the stuff shampoo. I think the ancient Egyptians used the stuff to pickle dog mummies) After the 3 day headaches, wheezing and coughing caused by that horrible concoction, I think I would prefer the bone comb.
 

R.Tist

Membership Revoked
So those who were thinking of taking refuge in Canada may change their minds, I'd guess - it's cold up here for seven months of the year!

Artie.
 
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