POL Propaganda About Ebola--Lies We Are Being Told

[Baloo]

Thought I would start a thread to keep tract of the lies.

For instance, right now I am watching CNN and they have an "expert" answering questions about Ebola. I am pretty sure he just lied twice.

1. When asked how long can ebola live on surfaces/outside the body? The expert
responded "not long, it is a really wimpy virus, it does not last very long at all on environmental surfaces, at most 30-60 minutes and its dead."

I am pretty sure I have read medical journal articles saying its a strong/hardy virus that can live about 6 DAYS on fomites.

See http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/unfairpark/2014/10/cdc_dallas_ebola.php

2. When asked what kills the virus, he responded "alcohol, soap and water, purell (hand sanitizers), in fact, its pretty easy to kill." He went on to say "part of the reason its spreading in Africa is they don't have access to running water."

I'm pretty sure I have read differently.

Lets discuss!

 

[Baloo]

Its still on CNN now and the "everything is fine" crap continues--the "expert" is a Professor at Emory.

Here is a couple more:

1. Is it dangerous/should I be worried if in Dallas?
Answer--No, everyone who has possibly been exposed has been identified.

2. Can this mutate to be airborne?
Answer--Very unlikely.

 

[Jonas Parker]

Question: Does CNN think all of it's viewers are as dumb as of a box of rocks?

Answer: They're watching CNN, aren't they?

 

[Hfcomms]

1. Is it dangerous/should I be worried if in Dallas?
Answer--No, everyone who has possibly been exposed has been identified

They count on everyone to be ignorant I guess. How in the world can he issue such an edict? He is then saying that from the moment he started feeling ill [probably before he got on the plane in the first place as according to the authorities that is when you begin to be contagious] that they have accounted for everyone this man has come into account with.

And even if they start the clock ticking when he first went to the hospital and was sent home then he is saying that every single person who was in the ER that day as a patient, every doctor, nurse, medical technician, radiologist, janitor, ect has been accounted for. Not to mention the people that the patient came into contact with to and from the hospital, people around the apartment complex, ect. It boggles the mind as to how many people he could of brushed up against not to take into consideration how many door knobs he may have touched with sweaty hands or who was near him while he was sneezing, coughing or hacking. Keeping people from becoming alarmed or asking difficult questions is job #1 from here on out and they'll lie through their teeth to do it.

This is why the doctor in Atlanta that dressed up in full PPE was making the point that if you get more than a handful of small clusters it quickly becomes impossible to track everyone down or put them under a quarantine.

 

[Mark D]

Ebola has been shown to easily survive hand sanitizer.

 

[Oreally]

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/...facts-virus-health/?google_editors_picks=true

this was the lie on Nat Geo today

now we all know how serious this thing really s, wth this level of disinfo going out over the MSM

How is Ebola spread?

Ebola is spread through contact with the bodily fluids of someone who is showing symptoms of the virus. Victims are not contagious until they begin showing symptoms, such as a fever. It is much less contagious than the common cold.

Most of those who have been infected have taken care of people who were ill or attended funerals for people who died of the virus. It is theoretically possible, but unlikely, to get Ebola from sharing a space with a sick person—say, by rubbing your hand against an armrest that someone with Ebola has recently sweated on and then touching your eyes.

[yeah, and that's why its being spread in Monrovia by taxicabs shuttling people from one filled "treatment center"
to another !]

Once someone has recovered from Ebola, with two tests over 24 hours showing no virus in the person's blood, they are no longer contagious and are believed to be immune to the disease, at least for an extended time. Ebola is present in semen and breast milk, and men who have recovered from the virus are told to use condoms during sex for the first seven weeks after recovery.

Could the virus mutate to become more contagious, say, by transmission through the air?

Viruses are very good at mutating, which can make them more or less dangerous. But researchers say it is highly unlikely that a virus would change its essential nature by becoming airborne instead of being passed through bodily fluids.

"At this point in time we have no evidence and do not anticipate that the Ebola virus is mutating to become airborne," the United Nations said in a statement on Friday. Instead of worrying about unlikely but theoretically possible outcomes, the UN said it's more important to address the known dangers of the current disease: "Energy needs to be focused on swiftly addressing the real needs and gaps in communities affected by this disease."

 

[raven]

They say that you are contagious from the moment you start feeling ill - and the symptoms are achy, cold and flu like.

I don't pay much attention to cold and flu like symptoms. I always considered this to be normal and that most people don't pay much attention to cold and flu like symptoms. Over my working life of about 45 years, i think i missed work twice for a couple days. When they say he noticed cold and flu like symptoms on the 24th, I think of what that means for me. So for me to say this, I would have woken up pretty stiff and achy that was not relieved by a hot shower. And a headache. And a nose that would not stop running.
My experience has also been, that I would be watching TV or something and my girl friend would touch me and say, "you feel hot, do you have a fever?" and i would say "I dunno, i don't have a thermometer".
Summary: If he admitted to feeling bad on the 24th and he is a normal working man, he was probably experiencing symptoms a day, maybe two before that he just walked off.

Having said that, if he does not die AND/OR there are no additional confirmed cases from the known exposures, I am going to consider this a false flag and start looking around to find out what the administration was doing over the last week that needed this big of a distraction.

 

[pauldingbabe]

What is the name of the idiot at Emory?

 

[jed turtle]

They say that you are contagious from the moment you start feeling ill - and the symptoms are achy, cold and flu like.

I don't pay much attention to cold and flu like symptoms. I always considered this to be normal and that most people don't pay much attention to cold and flu like symptoms. Over my working life of about 45 years, i think i missed work twice for a couple days. When they say he noticed cold and flu like symptoms on the 24th, I think of what that means for me. So for me to say this, I would have woken up pretty stiff and achy that was not relieved by a hot shower. And a headache. And a nose that would not stop running.
My experience has also been, that I would be watching TV or something and my girl friend would touch me and say, "you feel hot, do you have a fever?" and i would say "I dunno, i don't have a thermometer".
Summary: If he admitted to feeling bad on the 24th and he is a normal working man, he was probably experiencing symptoms a day, maybe two before that he just walked off.

Having said that, if he does not die AND/OR there are no additional confirmed cases from the known exposures, I am going to consider this a false flag and start looking around to find out what the administration was doing over the last week that needed this big of a distraction.

all they need is what they have right now. cue a few dozen professional actors presenting themselves to several ERs in several other cities, and voila', the whole danged country will be under lockdown, by popular demand - according to the MSM - and martial law will be instituted - for the sake of the children...

 

[Flippper]

Ebola has been shown to easily survive hand sanitizer.

I haven't been digging into it like I should be, good to know about the hand sanitizer, yikes.

 

[Countrymouse]

What I don't understand is WHY.


WHY they are KNOWINGLY lying.



Or --- have they honestly convinced themselves to believe their own pablum?


All we have to do is LOOK at what they said and how they acted EARLY ON.


Remember the precautions the ambulance took that was bringing in Brantley to Emory?

Remember the way Brantley was decked out in a "moon suit", and so were the HCW's who met him and escorted him inside?

Remember the protocol for disinfecting the ambulance, after?



hand sanitizer, my aunt sally........



HAVE THEY NO CONSCIENCE?


DON'T THEY REALIZE THIS THING WILL KILL THEM and THEIR FAMILIES, too?


WHAT could be their MOTIVE, in downplaying it?


ORDERS FROM ABOVE?


and if so---then WHY were THOSE given?


WHAT is the UNDERLYING PURPOSE???

 

[Countrymouse]

all they need is what they have right now. cue a few dozen professional actors presenting themselves to several ERs in several other cities, and voila', the whole danged country will be under lockdown, by popular demand - according to the MSM - and martial law will be instituted - for the sake of the children...

OR --- a number of actors presenting, who are then declared NOT to have it---to LULL the country into a sense of false security, so they take NO precautions---UNTIL it has a chance to get to get a GOOD HOLD on the population and TAKE OFF...........

 

[Marthanoir]

Thought I would start a thread to keep tract of the lies.

For instance, right now I am watching CNN and they have an "expert" answering questions about Ebola. I am pretty sure he just lied twice.

1. When asked how long can ebola live on surfaces/outside the body? The expert
responded "not long, it is a really wimpy virus, it does not last very long at all on environmental surfaces, at most 30-60 minutes and its dead."

I am pretty sure I have read medical journal articles saying its a strong/hardy virus that can live about 6 DAYS on fomites.

See http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/unfairpark/2014/10/cdc_dallas_ebola.php

2. When asked what kills the virus, he responded "alcohol, soap and water, purell (hand sanitizers), in fact, its pretty easy to kill." He went on to say "part of the reason its spreading in Africa is they don't have access to running water."

I'm pretty sure I have read differently.

Lets discuss!

yeah that's why there's so many dead African doctors and nurses and not to mention highly trained foreign doctors & nurses doing aid work in West Africa,

 

[rockcreek]

I just started reading The Hot Zone by Richard Preston.It is a true Ebola story. It is very scary what I am reading. I understand how much those patients suffer and die now. The book is going back and forth about it being airborne. I do not want that stuff here.

 

[SusieSunshine]

Countrymouse, I believe it is all about the $$$$. To prevent panic they down play the seriousness. It is beautiful here in Texas. Activities are happening. People spend. The economy continues. Until the last dime is spent and they will tow the party line.

 

[Betty_Rose]

What I don't understand is WHY.


WHY they are KNOWINGLY lying.

What if the chosen elite have *already* been immunized?

This is the MOST corrupt political leadership in the history of our country and perhaps in the history of the world.

Is it outside the range of possibility that they know *they* and their loved ones are safe?

I think it's possible.

 

[msswv123]

They count on everyone to be ignorant I guess. How in the world can he issue such an edict? He is then saying that from the moment he started feeling ill [probably before he got on the plane in the first place as according to the authorities that is when you begin to be contagious] that they have accounted for everyone this man has come into account with.

And even if they start the clock ticking when he first went to the hospital and was sent home then he is saying that every single person who was in the ER that day as a patient, every doctor, nurse, medical technician, radiologist, janitor, ect has been accounted for. Not to mention the people that the patient came into contact with to and from the hospital, people around the apartment complex, ect. It boggles the mind as to how many people he could of brushed up against not to take into consideration how many door knobs he may have touched with sweaty hands or who was near him while he was sneezing, coughing or hacking. Keeping people from becoming alarmed or asking difficult questions is job #1 from here on out and they'll lie through their teeth to do it.

This is why the doctor in Atlanta that dressed up in full PPE was making the point that if you get more than a handful of small clusters it quickly becomes impossible to track everyone down or put them under a quarantine.

The daughter said in her interview yesterday that she took the blanket he had wrapped around him at home to the ER with her where they sat for nearly an hour on the day the ambulance took him. The children spent the night before in the apartment and NO ONE wants to talk about or answer what happened to all the objects encountered on the first visit to the ER..thermometer, blood pressure cuff, bed, seating. because know one knew he had ebola for several more days.

 

[Possible Impact]

all they need is what they have right now. cue a few dozen professional actors presenting themselves to several ERs in several other cities, and voila', the whole danged country will be under lockdown, by popular demand - according to the MSM - and martial law will be instituted - for the sake of the children...

Already happening in New York:

Actors Fake Ebola Symptoms to Test City Hospitals

Thursday, October 02, 2014

By Fred Mogul : Reporter, WNYC News
http://www.wnyc.org/story/ebola-patients-appear-all-city-hospitals/

At Bellevue Hospital, Dr. William Goldberg talks to a patient who reports flu-like
symptoms. (Fred Mogul/WNYC)

New York City's public hospital system has been slipping 'plain-clothes
patients' into emergency rooms to see how quickly the proper Ebola
response is triggered.

They are paid actors or other staff members, and no one in the ERs —
including supervisors — knows who they are or when they're showing
up. Chief Medical Officer Dr. Ross Wilson says the simulated patients
only appear mildly ill, and it's up to the front-line staff to ask the right
questions and jump into action.

"If those patients have symptoms and a travel history we would expect
them to be isolated within a few minutes in that emergency room,"
Wilson said, "and then we would call the Department of Health and
complete a further work-up with the patient being isolated."

Wilson said the drills are sharpening ER reflexes and pinpointing
problems. One thing supervisors have noticed is that some staffers put
on their protective suits correctly but then take them off incorrectly —
something that could expose them to the virus in a real-world situation.

Wilson is hopeful drills like these reduce the chances of
miscommunication, like the one that led a Dallas hospital to discharge a
man who apparently told nurses he had traveled to Liberia.

"We're trying to minimize the risk. We hopefully are able to manage it,"
Wilson said. "But this is a very difficult process in a high volume and
sometimes very active environment."

All eleven city hospitals have undergone the drill over the last month,
and about half of them have done a second round.

A spokesman for the Greater New York Hospital Association said several
facilities are undergoing similar drills.

​

 

[John13]

What I don't understand is WHY.


WHY they are KNOWINGLY lying.



Or --- have they honestly convinced themselves to believe their own pablum?


All we have to do is LOOK at what they said and how they acted EARLY ON.


Remember the precautions the ambulance took that was bringing in Brantley to Emory?

Remember the way Brantley was decked out in a "moon suit", and so were the HCW's who met him and escorted him inside?

Remember the protocol for disinfecting the ambulance, after?



hand sanitizer, my aunt sally........



HAVE THEY NO CONSCIENCE?


DON'T THEY REALIZE THIS THING WILL KILL THEM and THEIR FAMILIES, too?


WHAT could be their MOTIVE, in downplaying it?


ORDERS FROM ABOVE?


and if so---then WHY were THOSE given?


WHAT is the UNDERLYING PURPOSE???

Eugenics! Got to get rid of those pesky humans...

 

[zeker]

wouldnt it be against the law to KNOWINGLY lie to the public (presidents accepted) to knowing falsify 'facts' to suit an agenda? its not like these folks can say "I didnt say that"

If you like your dr.....yada yada yada.

 

[Countrymouse]

Well it sure would solve the looming problem of how to make the unworkable Obamacare system "workable"---


if there are VERY FEW PEOPLE LEFT to tend to, then even the few doctors and HCWs who remain in the system should be sufficient for the small # of people who will still be alive.....

 

[LeViolinist]

Connor Sanders
http://www.newsweek.com/20-year-old-ebola-treatment-could-save-kent-brantly-262552

Dahboo,
there is actually a proven method that can cure Ebola that they are not talking about or implementing anywhere: doing a blood transfusion between an ebola survivor and an ebola patient of the same bloodtype. The patient inherits the survivor's ebola antibodies and can be saved even if close to death. This worked in saving 7 out of the 8 patients doctors tested this procedure on during the 1995 ebola outbreak

This was in response to Daboo's video about the 80 at Penn State being monitored for Ebola.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vH4j_UtEye0&list=UUFjOi1ZpZVErr8EYxg8t1dQ

STATE COLLEGE, Pa. -- Penn State has identified 80 students who traveled to areas near the Ebola Virus outbreak. University officials said these students are spread out across all Penn State Campuses and are now being monitored for virus symptoms.

Read More at: http://www.wjactv.com/news/features/t...

 

[Kris Gandillon]

Ebola has been shown to easily survive hand sanitizer.

Link please. If we are going to have a thread exposing "their lies" we need to at least provide a link to the evidence supporting our own statements otherwise it is just a personal opinion or a lie of our own.

 

[Kris Gandillon]

And I would strongly suggest, as we do with many other topics, if you want to chase conspiracy and woo, start a thread in ALT to do that. To the extent possible, let's keep threads on the main to the facts and the news.

 

[Cardinal]

Connor Sanders
http://www.newsweek.com/20-year-old-ebola-treatment-could-save-kent-brantly-262552

Dahboo,
there is actually a proven method that can cure Ebola that they are not talking about or implementing anywhere: doing a blood transfusion between an ebola survivor and an ebola patient of the same bloodtype. The patient inherits the survivor's ebola antibodies and can be saved even if close to death. This worked in saving 7 out of the 8 patients doctors tested this procedure on during the 1995 ebola outbreak

This was in response to Daboo's video about the 80 at Penn State being monitored for Ebola.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vH4j_UtEye0&list=UUFjOi1ZpZVErr8EYxg8t1dQ

STATE COLLEGE, Pa. -- Penn State has identified 80 students who traveled to areas near the Ebola Virus outbreak. University officials said these students are spread out across all Penn State Campuses and are now being monitored for virus symptoms.

Read More at: http://www.wjactv.com/news/features/t...

While the article is certainly interesting and hopeful, I don't believe that anyone "close to death" can be cured, as close to death pretty much means your organs are already liquefying. I do believe that gotten to in time, many can be saved this way. But as the article points out- there isn't enough plasma from survivors to treat everyone.

 

[Kris Gandillon]

Dr. Brantly also used the transfusion method from a patient who had recovered. He did this a few days before being transported to the US.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...e-used-to-treat-patients-says-WHO-doctor.html

 

[rummer]

They say that you are contagious from the moment you start feeling ill - and the symptoms are achy, cold and flu like.

I don't pay much attention to cold and flu like symptoms. I always considered this to be normal and that most people don't pay much attention to cold and flu like symptoms. Over my working life of about 45 years, i think i missed work twice for a couple days. When they say he noticed cold and flu like symptoms on the 24th, I think of what that means for me. So for me to say this, I would have woken up pretty stiff and achy that was not relieved by a hot shower. And a headache. And a nose that would not stop running.
My experience has also been, that I would be watching TV or something and my girl friend would touch me and say, "you feel hot, do you have a fever?" and i would say "I dunno, i don't have a thermometer".
Summary: If he admitted to feeling bad on the 24th and he is a normal working man, he was probably experiencing symptoms a day, maybe two before that he just walked off.

Having said that, if he does not die AND/OR there are no additional confirmed cases from the known exposures, I am going to consider this a false flag and start looking around to find out what the administration was doing over the last week that needed this big of a distraction.

Somewhere here in the vast number of ebola posts was something showing that ebola could be contagious up to two days before showing symptoms. Then there were the two people, a medical worker and a nun who played with non-symptomatic children and they along with the children went on to develop ebola.

 

[Sleeping Cobra]

Everything is a lie. "Affordable Healthcare Act", the economy is getting better etc. This is why it is important to have news forum boards.

The Government knows most people believe the lies they spew and will continue lying.

 

[Shacknasty Shagrat]

We need to watch the CDC/media with word meanings.
Quarantine is for people that are not contagious or showing symptoms.
Isolation means the patient is contagious or has a disease.
SS

 

[Be Well]

Everything is a lie. "Affordable Healthcare Act", the economy is getting better etc. This is why it is important to have news forum boards.

The Government knows most people believe the lies they spew and will continue lying.

Actually fewer and fewer people are believing the lies!

 

[Be Well]

Connor Sanders
http://www.newsweek.com/20-year-old-ebola-treatment-could-save-kent-brantly-262552

Dahboo,
there is actually a proven method that can cure Ebola that they are not talking about or implementing anywhere: doing a blood transfusion between an ebola survivor and an ebola patient of the same bloodtype. The patient inherits the survivor's ebola antibodies and can be saved even if close to death. This worked in saving 7 out of the 8 patients doctors tested this procedure on during the 1995 ebola outbreak

This was in response to Daboo's video about the 80 at Penn State being monitored for Ebola.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vH4j_UtEye0&list=UUFjOi1ZpZVErr8EYxg8t1dQ

The survivor had to have been infected with the exact same strain of ebola, not only are there a number of strains, but ebola mutates very promiscuously, which is also a big problem in vax manufacturing.

 

[Be Well]

What if the chosen elite have *already* been immunized?

This is the MOST corrupt political leadership in the history of our country and perhaps in the history of the world.

Is it outside the range of possibility that they know *they* and their loved ones are safe?

I think it's possible.

There is not a shred of evidence that this is true. The PFI forum has an ongoing thread about ebola vaxes. I will post the link. I suppose it's is very, VERY remotely within the realm of possibility, but highly unlikely. Keep in mind that ebola has various strains and mutates rapidly, both of which make it very problematic to make a vax that works.

http://www.singtomeohmuse.com/viewtopic.php?t=3334&start=2850

 

[Clive]

I still think tis is modifired marburg.

 

[Mark D]

Link please. If we are going to have a thread exposing "their lies" we need to at least provide a link to the evidence supporting our own statements otherwise it is just a personal opinion or a lie of our own.

Looks like it survives "cheap hand sanitizer":

http://awoko.org/2014/07/17/sierra-...r-does-not-prevent-ebola-virus-harold-thomas/

http://www.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/NewsArchive/artikel.php?ID=322090

 

[Dex]

The lies do seem more audacious than normal these days. Hard to tell who to believe, here or anywhere. Im going to keep working on the assumption that this is a real outbreak of EZ and the authorities are going to squeeze it for all its worth for poltical reasons even if allowing it to spread makes them look incompetent. 0bola and his donkeys need a 9\11 for the midterms. My years of research tell me that Ebola virus is no joke and much more dangerous than its being made out to be by TPTB.

 

[Frugal Bob]

" No sir in no way is the Ebola virus airborne see its right here its in black and white, you can also kill Ebola with any dollar store hand sanitizers.... CNN says so."

 

[Dazed]

Define "cheap hand Sanitizer".

Looks like it survives "cheap hand sanitizer":

http://awoko.org/2014/07/17/sierra-...r-does-not-prevent-ebola-virus-harold-thomas/

http://www.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/NewsArchive/artikel.php?ID=322090

All sold here (in the US) nare alcohol in concentrations high enough to kill everything, or a chlorine content high enough, or quatenary disinfectants. They will kill anything they come in contact with. Virii, bacteria, molds, fungi, etc. Even prions.

Now, for them to work, you have to WASH YOUR HANDS first, to remove anything that the virii can hide behind, like dirt or other stuff.

Not sure what kind of hand sanitizers the articles are referring to....

 

[theoriginaldeb]

Chlorine bleach is the only thing that will kill the Ebola virus--it is what the health care workers are using. This info came from a family member who is a doctor--this came from a casual conversation we had. I filed that info away for future reference--it was also said that here in the US we are relatively safe because of the extensive availability of chlorinated water by comparison to the 3rd world. That the countries in Africa that are more modernized--have water and sewer treatment are not having Ebola outbreaks.
No word yet about the dilution rate needed to be safe and that may not be forthcoming because the health community is going to want people with symptoms to come in and be tested because of the lethal consequences of Ebola Virus.

 

[Dex]

We just bought some stuff that has Amosil-Q .05% Claims to last 24 hours for "skin to skin" contact. I'm not sure how that is even possible. We thought we would get a couple that use a spray pump and we can reuse the pumps for a thieves oil recipe.

 

[R.Tist]

What if the chosen elite have *already* been immunized?

This is the MOST corrupt political leadership in the history of our country and perhaps in the history of the world.

Is it outside the range of possibility that they know *they* and their loved ones are safe?

I think it's possible.

That's what I said, except... I don't see how immunizations would work, as ALL hemorrhagic viruses mutate. No one on Earth can predict the evolutionary path of a live virus, so even if TPTB were immunized now, it would be totally ineffective the moment the virus mutated. That's why I don't think it's likely.

Artie.