CORONA Problems with J&J vaccine?

WildDaisy

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"Of course they are". So many people want the J&J that they are avoiding taking the Moderna and Pfizer ones because of all the side effects etc. So they created a "rumor mill" so that people stop trying to get the J&J which is way harder to get.

What better way to dirty the competition than with the "rumor mill". I don't know anyone who has had any side effects with J&J, but I do know a number of people who have had major side effects that required hospitalization for the other two.
 

blueinterceptor

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Something to consider

aren’t the initial trial test subjects about 9 months into their initial vaccinations?
How many of them had serious complications?

Technician that gave my shot, told me that he got the moderna shots. “Said if he had a choice he would have taken the JJ vaccine. “It was made the old fashion way.”
 
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Skyraider

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The two major reactions of issue with the J&J, that I have heard announced through the mass media news at least three times, are dizziness and or nausea, that’s it. The statements went along the lines that several people in different locations had complained of these “side effects“. Sounds to me like self induced stress which then begins to get quickly contagious when discussed, as in, “me too”. I think it is BS.

Skyraider
 

TKO

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"Of course they are". So many people want the J&J that they are avoiding taking the Moderna and Pfizer ones because of all the side effects etc. So they created a "rumor mill" so that people stop trying to get the J&J which is way harder to get.

What better way to dirty the competition than with the "rumor mill". I don't know anyone who has had any side effects with J&J, but I do know a number of people who have had major side effects that required hospitalization for the other two.
No rumor mill. Some of my family had the J&J and it's been rough for an entire day. Headache, achy, etc. You feel like crap. My niece got it this past week and said if she'd had known how rough it was, she would have gotten the Pfizer one. My mom took the Pfizer vax and said all she felt was a little sore arm.

NOW, this is what I'm hearing. Vaccinators don't know how to give the Pfizer one. It has got to be in the right place. They can't just jab anywhere. It has got to be perfectly into the deltoid muscle.
 

ParanoidNot

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I have seen comments and questions like this before. I am just wondering exactly how does the Moderna vaccine change human DNA? Can anyone please answer that with some scientific backing? Please explain how this mRNA vaccine interacts with our DNA and what changes it causes.

(disclaimer: I'm pretty sure the mRNA from the vaccine doesn't enter the nucleus, so it's not possible for it to change our DNA, but I am genuinely interested in the rationale behind the opinion that it does)



 

annieosage

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I got the J&J vaccine the afternoon of 4-6. Felt great for the first 24 hours. The next day late in the afternoon I started feeling a bit tired and started running a fever which got as high as 99.6, slight headache. The next day after that I had no more fever and still slight headache which could also have been attributed to allergies so :shr::shr:

Since then I feel great. DD is set on getting the Phizer vaccine so I am a little worried but will taker care of her if she has any crazy side effects. her first shot is this Wednesday. I have heard so many bad things about this one but you know, she is stubborn and doesn't listen to me so we'll see...
 

WriterMom

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Thank you! That's exactly the type of thing I was looking for. I found the full text of the study upon which this article is based and will read it later this weekend. :-)
 

vessie

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My friend Justine has been posting on Facebook her experience with getting the J and J shot this last Monday in Hawaii and she was like, “Oh yay! No problem!”

And then everyday now it gets worse and worse for her multiple misery symptoms.

She’s been bed since the day after her shot and feels and look’s like ‘Death on a Cracker”.

She’s young and is now out if the US Army and she said that she had aced through the 35 shots they give you all at once in the military but the J and J is just kicking her ass. V
 

TKO

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Thank you! That's exactly the type of thing I was looking for. I found the full text of the study upon which this article is based and will read it later this weekend. :-)
I'll warn you. The left tries to discredit EVERYTHING Children's Health Defense says.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Does the J&I vaccine change your DNA like the other? I have seen things here that say Yes. Does anyone know for sure?

Now I will NOT get any of the vaccines!!!! Could see this as an attempt to get rid of all other vaccines whereby only Pfizer and Moderna are left. They are are a bunch of crooked bastards!!!!

The J&J vaccine is a traditional vaccine and does not have the mRNA stuff in it. What I’ve seen from friends who have gotten it, and they are all of Germanic extraction, is serious swelling at the site and a severe migraine that lasted several days and loss of appetite for several days. Once Orion Commander is cleared for the vaccine after his knee replacement surgery, per his doctors orders we both plan to get the J&J vaccine. I’m quarter German so for me it’s good to know I may have a migraine post vaccine. None of them are a cure, they only lessen the symptoms.
 

naegling62

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One of my wife's friends husband had a vaccine. We don't know which nor how long ago, but he had a fever of 107.5 and died a few days later. He developed pneumonia quickly out of nowhere. To me it sounded like a cytokinin storm after a mRNA immune response like they've been warning about.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
One of my wife's friends husband had a vaccine. We don't know which nor how long ago, but he had a fever of 107.5 and died a few days later. He developed pneumonia quickly out of nowhere. To me it sounded like a cytokinin storm after a mRNA immune response like they've been warning about.

I have three friends, all nurses in their early forties who died from taking the moderna vaccine I think it was. Two within eighteen hours two were dead and two weeks later another was dead later after going into a coma within eighteen hours of taking the vaccine.
 
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marsh

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Some women are having significant impacts to their menstruation cycle and flow with all the vaccines, including J&J

Main Coronavirus thread post #53,521

 

goosebeans

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I think this is about both politics and human greed/other agendas; in the EU/UK it has been highly politicized especially Astra/Zenica, but in the US I'm noticing that Pfizer and Maderna may not like competition and any non-mRNA vaccine is serious competition.

If there were not so many reports of serious adverse reactions of quite a few different types to the mRNA vaccines that are barely being reported, I wouldn't be so suspicious.

But there seems to be an intentional effort to publicize the real serious side-effects a few people are having with the non-mRNA vaccines and barely report the huge numbers of them from the mRNAs (unless something so drastic happens they can't keep it out of the news).

These are my thoughts exactly. I'm sure there's a lot of animosity between all the different labs/agencies. And I'm sure sure one of them is going to be the govenment's favored "golden child". We're just cattle, being funneled into a chute!
 

TammyinWI

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By NIKKI BATTISTE CBS NEWS April 10, 2021, 6:56 AM
Georgia becomes third state to shut down Johnson & Johnson vaccine site after adverse reactions

Johnson & Johnson's coronavirus vaccine is facing a double dose of problems. Georgia is the third state to temporarily shut down a vaccine site after eight people suffered adverse reactions to the shot.

Earlier this week, 18 people in North Carolina reported side effects, while 11 people in Colorado reacted to the shot with symptoms ranging from dizziness, nausea and fainting.

"This is a really potent vaccine, and what we're seeing is some of that potency relating at a very rare side effect that we just have to be aware of," said Dr. David Agus, a CBS News medical contributor.

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Txkstew

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Two of my close friends have had both of the Moderna shots, and they both have had bad acne outbreaks on their face. Other than that, they report no other bad reactions. Both are in their mid 60's and had the injections in different cities.
 
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WildDaisy

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These are my thoughts exactly. I'm sure there's a lot of animosity between all the different labs/agencies. And I'm sure sure one of them is going to be the govenment's favored "golden child". We're just cattle, being funneled into a chute!

I don't think it is animosity. There is an abundance of Pfizer and Moderna - the primary vaccines that were out there, that now are sitting in places with them begging to find people to give them to. People are seeking out JnJ and it has a very limited production rate compared to the others. With so many looking for JnJ specifically, they run out fast. The government invested in these manufacturers to get these out, and they need to "push" the other two because the stock is just sitting.

So they need to find a way to discredit JnJ in the peoples' eyes so they will start using and looking for the others they have mass quantities of.
 

Tristan

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Georgia? I'd like to know the demographics of those affected. So far from what I'm seeing is people of german extraction seem to be reacting the worst to all of the vaccines.


I assume this is your personal observation among your acquaintances?

It would be fantastic to see the honest to God data from the entire population on that, which we never will.

Thanks.
 

Keric4

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Some women are having significant impacts to their menstruation cycle and flow with all the vaccines, including J&J

Main Coronavirus thread post #53,521


I'd like to keep my menopause in check just the way it is. Nice with no major issues!
 

inskanoot

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I think I read somewhere that the traditional Chinese medicine (TCM) approach assumes that all medicines are toxic and that a good formulation includes the antidote. It seems that there is no antidote for the wide variety of poisons that people have to choose from.
 

Tristan

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All vaccines have the potential for problems, sometimes even deaths.

Medical pros argue that the risk is less than the disease they are trying to protect you from.

But in an environment where trust has been broken and an individual cannot be sure that the reports are not 'filtered' regarding the negative outcomes, it's no wonder that there's a significant % of the population that's just not interested...
 

WildDaisy

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Remember folks, fever, aches and soreness at the site is the normal side effects of MOST vaccines, Covid or not. So I don't really consider them a "side effect" in terms of what we are looking for.
 

TerryK

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I remember multiple kids fainting getting their vaccinations in grade school. I don't remember them shutting the program down.
This^^
Department of Health who give hundreds of shots a day for years report the following..
About 2% to 3% of people are afraid of any needle. Common effects of getting a shot, any shot, is extreme nervousness, anxiety, dizziness and nausea and fainting in a lot of cases.
 

TerryK

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Differences between the Covid vaccines.

Pfizer and Moderna inject RNA directly. The RNA makes the covid spikes that trigger your immune system

J&J injects a virus which injects genetically modified DNA into your cell, which makes RNA, the RNA then makes covid spikes that trigger your immune system.

The J&J uses modified DNA which then makes RNA, which then makes covid spikes. . The mRNA vaccines do not come in contact with your DNA and contain no DNA. The J&J vaccine does, but this is not an issue because all the J&J DNA can do is make an RNA molecule, which can then use a cell ribosome to make a couple of Covid spikes.
This is not rocket science people.

Bottom line: DNA only makes RNA, RNA only makes various proteins. RNA does not affect DNA.
Also any injected RNA or even DNA as in the J&J is broken up and removed by your body within about a day or so.
Neither the DNA nor the RNA stay in your system.
 
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Redcat

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Two of my close friends have had both of the Moderna shots, and they both have had bad acne outbreaks on their face. Other than that, they report no other bad reactions. Both are in their mid 60's and had the injections in different cities.

That happened to one of my Grandsons. He was the one to get Moderna and his acne, which was very mild, has gone crazy since the shots. The others had Pfizer, along with my daughter.
 

TerryK

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Ingredients in the Johnson & Johnson vaccine
ingredients: recombinant, replication-incompetent adenovirus type 26 DNA expressing the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein, citric acid monohydrate, trisodium citrate dihydrate, ethanol, 2-hydroxypropyl-β-cyclodextrin (HBCD), polysorbate-80, sodium chloride.

Ingredients in thePfizer vaccine
includes the following ingredients: mRNA, lipids ((4-hydroxybutyl)azanediyl)bis(hexane-6,1-diyl)bis(2-hexyldecanoate), 2 [(polyethylene glycol)-2000]-N,N-ditetradecylacetamide, 1,2-Distearoyl-sn-glycero-3- phosphocholine, and cholesterol), potassium chloride, monobasic potassium phosphate, sodium chloride, dibasic sodium phosphate dihydrate, and sucrose.

Ingredients in Moderna vaccine:
ingredients: messenger ribonucleic acid (mRNA), lipids (SM-102, polyethylene glycol [PEG] 2000 dimyristoyl glycerol [DMG], cholesterol, and 1,2-distearoyl-sn-glycero-3-phosphocholine [DSPC]), tromethamine, tromethamine hydrochloride, acetic acid, sodium acetate trihydrate, and sucrose.

Finally the main advantages of the J&J is that it only requires one shot and that shot is cheaper than the other 2 vaccines. Since the government pays the companies for these shots, there is a lot of interest in the J&J. BUT, J&J seems to have had a lot of quality control problems lately that ruined tens of millions of doses that had to be destroyed.
 
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dstraito

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Differences between the Covid vaccines.

Pfizer and Moderna inject RNA directly. The RNA makes the covid spikes that trigger your immune system

J&J injects a virus which injects genetically modified DNA into your cell, which makes RNA, the RNA then makes covid spikes that trigger your immune system.

The J&J uses modified DNA which then makes RNA, which then makes covid spikes. . The mRNA vaccines do not come in contact with your DNA and contain no DNA. The J&J vaccine does, but this is not an issue because all the J&J DNA can do is make an RNA molecule, which can then use a cell ribosome to make a couple of Covid spikes.
This is not rocket science people.

Bottom line: DNA only makes RNA, RNA only makes various proteins. RNA does not affect DNA.
Also any injected RNA or even DNA as in the J&J is broken up and removed by your body within about a day or so.
Neither the DNA nor the RNA stay in your system.

I wonder if there is anything to this


In my previous blog, “Will an RNA Vaccine Permanently Alter My DNA?”, I laid out several molecular pathways that would potentially enable the RNA in an mRNA vaccine to be copied and permanently integrated into our DNA. I was absolutely not surprised to find that the majority of people claimed that this prospect was impossible; in fact, I was expecting this response – partly because most people don’t possess a deep enough understanding of molecular biology, and partly because of other implicit biases.

After all, we’ve been told in no uncertain terms that it would be impossible for the mRNA in a vaccine to become integrated into our DNA, simply because “RNA doesn’t work that way.” Well, this current research which was released not too long after my original article demonstrates that yes, indeed, “RNA does work that way”. In my original article, I spelled out this exact molecular pathway.

Specifically, a new study by MIT and Harvard scientists demonstrates that segments of the RNA from the coronavirus itself are most likely becoming a permanent fixture in human DNA. (study linked below). This was once thought near impossible, for the same reasons which are presented to assure us that an RNA vaccine could accomplish no such feat. Against the tides of current biological dogma, these researchers found that the genetic segments of this RNA virus are more than likely making their way into our genome. They also found that the exact pathway that I laid out in in my original article is more than likely the pathway being used (retrotransposon, and in particular a LINE-1 element) for this retro-integration to occur.

more at link
 
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TKO

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Differences between the Covid vaccines.

Pfizer and Moderna inject RNA directly. The RNA makes the covid spikes that trigger your immune system

J&J injects a virus which injects genetically modified DNA into your cell, which makes RNA, the RNA then makes covid spikes that trigger your immune system.

The J&J uses modified DNA which then makes RNA, which then makes covid spikes. . The mRNA vaccines do not come in contact with your DNA and contain no DNA. The J&J vaccine does, but this is not an issue because all the J&J DNA can do is make an RNA molecule, which can then use a cell ribosome to make a couple of Covid spikes.
This is not rocket science people.

Bottom line: DNA only makes RNA, RNA only makes various proteins. RNA does not affect DNA.
Also any injected RNA or even DNA as in the J&J is broken up and removed by your body within about a day or so.
Neither the DNA nor the RNA stay in your system.
Well, no talk of reverse transcriptase. That's the DNA polymerase. It's job is to transcribe SINGLE STRANDED RNA into DNA. Single stranded RNA is what Pfizer and Moderna use...but not J&J.
 

et2

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All vaccines have the potential for problems, sometimes even deaths.

Medical pros argue that the risk is less than the disease they are trying to protect you from.

But in an environment where trust has been broken and an individual cannot be sure that the reports are not 'filtered' regarding the negative outcomes, it's no wonder that there's a significant % of the population that's just not interested...


Amen brother. We’re all destined to the grave. Could be a number of ways. I’m not giving someone else the keys to take me on the ride they choose
 
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