Poll: Will Obama Pardon the Clintons?

Obama will:

  • pardon Hillary Clinton only.

    Votes: 17 10.6%
  • pardon Bill and Hillary Clinton.

    Votes: 7 4.3%
  • pardon Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Clinton.

    Votes: 40 24.8%
  • not pardon any of the Clintons.

    Votes: 97 60.2%

  • Total voters
    161

Sub-Zero

Veteran Member
Good Morning All:

This poll is self explanatory.

I haven't seen the mention of Chelsea receiving a pardon, but if she works at the Clinton Foundation, I could see it happening.
 

dstraito

TB Fanatic
For one thing, I do not believe Obama even likes the Clinton's. For another, I think they are finally irrelevant. Lastly, I think you have to be charged with something before you can be pardoned.
 

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
Give it a second, dude.

You sound just like my wife. I don't need to be reminded every six months to do something; I'll get it done.

To be fair, you wouldn't have been the first person around here to post a poll without actually putting up a poll. But still, it's in play now, and it's working just fine.

And I voted "no pardons for anyone." He's running out of time and I don't think they've even been accused yet.
 

OldArcher

Has No Life - Lives on TB
The nearly FQMNIC must pardon the Klintoons, rather than be prosecuted through their blowing the whistle on him... They hang together, or most certainly, they'll hang separately... Though, the nearly FQMNIC will love being the object of attention- after all, outside of golf, his highest aspiration has been to become "Queen for a Day..."

GBY&Y's

Maranatha

OldARcher
 

TorahTips

Membership Revoked
I said NO because he is involved himself in some of the non-sense. If he pardons them, it may cause investigation into him and he may get charged with something. He has no love lost on Hillary or the Clintons. If he does pardon her or them, it will only be because he has been forced to do so by someone like Soros.
 

TerryK

TB Fanatic
Nah, Obama is all about Obama.
The Clintons will serve as a useful excuse /alibi to explain why clinton lost and his legacy was destroyed.
It will be all about the Hillary and Clinton corruption causing the downfall of his legacy.

The first rule of Obama club is "It's always somebody else's fault"
 

Texican

Live Free & Die Free.... God Freedom Country....
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With the distaste between the obbies and the clintons, it is a toss up as to a pardon....

Texican....
 

Shacknasty Shagrat

Has No Life - Lives on TB
If Mr. Obama does not pardon Mz Clinton, she will be held as a political hostage of Mr. Trump.
If the Liberals give Mr. Trump a hard time, or he needs a diversion or distraction, he will 'Lock Her Up'.
SS
 

TorahTips

Membership Revoked
It really doesn't matter if he does. It appears that NY is moving ahead with some type of investigation. That is outside of a Federal pardon. It's at the State level.
 

Sub-Zero

Veteran Member
For one thing, I do not believe Obama even likes the Clinton's. For another, I think they are finally irrelevant. Lastly, I think you have to be charged with something before you can be pardoned.

In 1866, the Supreme Court ruled in Ex parte Garland that the pardon power "extends to every offence known to the law, and may be exercised at any time after its commission, either before legal proceedings are taken, or during their pendency, or after conviction and judgment."
 

Delta

Has No Life - Lives on TB
A pardon of the Clintons is a public admissions that the Clintons did something wrong. I think that is the snag. The liberals can't swallow the idea that their heroes are less than perfect.
 

Rabbit

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I'm hoping this new administration will put them all in jail including zero. One out of three would be okay, two out of three even better, one of each or all three would be pretty darn good.
 

Sub-Zero

Veteran Member
A pardon of the Clintons is a public admissions that the Clintons did something wrong. I think that is the snag. The liberals can't swallow the idea that their heroes are less than perfect.

So, would they rather try to maintain the appearance of no wrong doing, or move to Qatar where their $1.4 billion dollars is?

They really could care less, because they will spin it as preventing the mean GOP going after the Democrats as a Nazi-esque political persecution, and the libtards will buy it hook line and sinker.

It will cost them some of the $1.4 billion, of course, but c'est la vie.
 

Be Well

may all be well
Only federal crimes can be pardoned; not state crimes. Many of their crimes may be state crimes, or both state and federal at the same time. Plus no crimes that involve other countries, and many of their crimes involve other countries. Hopefully someone will know exactly about these limits on pardons.

I voted "no". 0bola would put himself even more in the cross hairs than he is at the moment. Imho he wants to distance himself from anyone who could possibly do him harm by ratting on him. When people are paralyzed by fear, inaction is the result, or crazy actions that are usually counterproductive. 0bola knows that Trump's administration is almost assuredly going to go after him for fraudulently running for and acting as pres when he is not eligible plus using fake identity.

This thought is probably devouring him 24/7.

At the point, the Clintons cannot help him no matter what he does. He's already dug his own grave so to speak by his crimes.

About the $ to Qatar, I've never read anything for sure about that. Anyone know definitively?
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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At the very least, Hitlery will be pardoned. 0bunghole can't afford for her to testify in court. I'm betting that as a condition of her silence, he'll have to pardon Slick Willy too. I think the bitchy daughter is in the clear.
 

Bicycle Junkie

Resident dissident and troll
Pardoning them is in effect saying they broke the law. For that reason I do not expect Obama to pardon the Clintons.

Trump would be wise to pardon them, as in effect it would condemn their criminal actions.

The state prosecutions could still proceed.
 

BetterLateThanNever

Veteran Member
Give it a second, dude.

You sound just like my wife. I don't need to be reminded every six months to do something; I'll get it done.

Your wife has to remind you to do "something" every six months?

You're lucky, mine would be on me the next day.

By the way, I voted: not pardon any of the Clinton's.
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
Actually Obama pardoning HRC opens her up to forced testimony, since incriminating her self is not an issue after the pardon, if Obama uses Ford's wording from RMN's pardon.

And, as ws explained many times before, one need NOT be charged for a pardon to be issued, since the pardon can be for "any offenses from_____________ to _______________ or during ________________ times or situations."
 

Be Well

may all be well
Pardoning them is in effect saying they broke the law. For that reason I do not expect Obama to pardon the Clintons.

Trump would be wise to pardon them, as in effect it would condemn their criminal actions.

The state prosecutions could still proceed.

You must be out of your mind! That is not his nature anyway, and it would be the absolute worst thing he could do, unless he wants a one term presidency and lost more than half his support instantly, Or more than half.
 

Bardou

Veteran Member
I voted "No Pardon." My reasoning is Obama has to think about his legacy and he doesn't want to be remembered by being the President who pardoned people like the Clintons. He doesn't even like them and they have no money to give him. He isn't going to stick his neck out for them and he well knows that he would rather look good than bad when he leaves office. Also, to pardon is to say the Clintons did something wrong. They haven't been indicted for anything, Obama has to let it takes its course.
 

von Koehler

Has No Life - Lives on TB
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summerthyme

Administrator
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Nah, Obama is all about Obama.
The Clintons will serve as a useful excuse /alibi to explain why clinton lost and his legacy was destroyed.
It will be all about the Hillary and Clinton corruption causing the downfall of his legacy.

The first rule of Obama club is "It's always somebody else's fault"

THIS!! I doubt he gives a damn if they end up in prison for life, just as long as he skates...

Summerthyme
 

Publius

TB Fanatic
THIS!! I doubt he gives a damn if they end up in prison for life, just as long as he skates...

Summerthyme



Not a chance Hillary will implicate obama and more and should look like hillary is going to court I can see obama headed somewhere for the Middle East and fast.
 

Meemur

Voice on the Prairie / FJB!
If Zero pardons anyone, it'll be whatever terrorist Muslimes are still in the prisons.

I would Zero would leave the country, but I think he'll return to Chicago and manage to make the evening news for awhile.
 

WildDaisy

God has a plan, Trust it!
He cannot offer clemency to someone who hasn't been convicted of anything. First off, it would imply that he has foreknowledge that she is guilty. Second, she has had no investigation, no conviction and no sentence for which to offer clemency for. He can't do something for someone who doesn't have a need for clemency to begin with.

Now, if she had been investigated, convicted and sentenced, he could have given clemency before he left. But since that will not happen in 5 days, he can't do a thing about it.
 

thompson

Certa Bonum Certamen
He cannot offer clemency to someone who hasn't been convicted of anything. First off, it would imply that he has foreknowledge that she is guilty. Second, she has had no investigation, no conviction and no sentence for which to offer clemency for. He can't do something for someone who doesn't have a need for clemency to begin with.

Now, if she had been investigated, convicted and sentenced, he could have given clemency before he left. But since that will not happen in 5 days, he can't do a thing about it.

You are seriously mistaken.

ONE MORE TIME

A person need not have been convicted of a crime - whatsoever - to receive a pardon.

President Ford pardoned Richard Nixon and Nixon had not been convicted of anything.

ETA: This will teach me to refresh before I reply. Got a phone call while reading/replying.

WHAT DENNIS SAID!
 

ejagno

Veteran Member
Unless formal charges are filed within the next few days, there is nothing to pardon. Once the charges are filed AFTER our new President is sworn in there isn't a damned thing that can be done about it to stop them from being fully prosecuted.
 

NoDandy

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I'm hoping this new administration will put them all in jail including zero. One out of three would be okay, two out of three even better, one of each or all three would be pretty darn good.

I would like to see all of them hanging from a short rope in a tall tree!
 

NoDandy

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Pardoning them is in effect saying they broke the law. For that reason I do not expect Obama to pardon the Clintons.

Trump would be wise to pardon them, as in effect it would condemn their criminal actions.

The state prosecutions could still proceed.

What are you smoking ???

All the libs hate Trump, and will never like him. If Trump was dumb enough to pardon them, he would be a one termer. His supporters would abandon him in a flash. Only support he would have left would be ?????

Trump should let the Justice Dept pursue charges, and let States pursue charges, and he should stay the hell out of the way, and stay the hell off of twitter !!!

:mad:
 
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