DISASTER Philadelphia: Tanker fire underneath I-95 causes entire northbound overpass to collapse

Texican

Texican

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subnet said:
But fire cant weaken metal and concrete to the point of collapse...
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Extreme heat from the fuel weakened the structural steel beams which resulted in the failure of the bridge. Note that the drive deck did not show such failure. This is similar to what happened on 9/11 to the structural supports from the airplane fuel and damage from the airplanes to the structure.

Explosives did not take down the Towers, but heat destruction. My opinion as a PE.

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Red Baron

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LightEcho

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LightEcho said:
If Russia backs away from Syria, it is only because they are not ready to begin the last world war. If they are ready and Trump does order this attack near Damascus, be ready for hundreds of "terror" attacks stateside to include: gasoline tanker fires, power stations damaged, cyber attacks, water mains blown, uncountable numbers of forest fires, railroad crashes, oil and gas pipelines blown... and many more goodies.

The next phase after this would be nuke strikes. It could all go down in a week or two.
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Sure, but those are from other causes. What is coming will be an obvious internal attack that will have police acting like a disturbed bees' nest. Imagine what happens with "an active shooter" or a serial killer. Multiply that by 50.

Fuel trucks lit on fire in tunnels and under bridge overpasses. Train tracks and controls disabled for weeks. Power transformers shot up- so many we run out of supplies. I can figure on many things I won't mention publicly. You will know the difference.
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This all sounds like a trial run. I am sure they are watching to see how the response plays out. If it does not look useful, they will decide on other targets. I don't expect they will target population centers (people targets), but infrastructure. At least initially.
The purpose: cause disruption, confusion, degrade communication & power centers, interrupt transportation, create costs to weigh down the system. Their next move should happen before end of June.
 
Wildweasel

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Macgyver said:
Truck driver is either a charcoal briquette, or an illegal that ran before it went up in flames.
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Driving a Hazmat load of up to 8000 gallons of gasoline (reported in local news) requires a Hazmat endorsement on his CDL.

That requires a federal background check and running fingerprints. Ain't no illegal going to get thru that. Maybe be a legal immigrant who can barely understand English, but he'd have to be able to pass the background check.

So saying the driver is likely charcoal is correct.
 
Macgyver

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Wildweasel said:
Driving a Hazmat load of up to 8000 gallons of gasoline (reported in local news) requires a Hazmat endorsement on his CDL.

That requires a federal background check and running fingerprints. Ain't no illegal going to get thru that. Maybe be a legal immigrant who can barely understand English, but he'd have to be able to pass the background check.

So saying the driver is likely charcoal is correct.
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I know that. Your just assuming they have a CDL and what it takes to get one.
 
Wildweasel

Wildweasel

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Macgyver said:
I know that. Your just assuming they have a CDL and what it takes to get one.
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Garbage haulers can try to get away with that. Hazmat haulers like this company would be shut down for trying to run unlicensed drivers. As it is, paying to replace two bridges might shut the company down and force bankruptcy if their insurance company finds something minor, much less unlicensed drivers.
 
Ragnarok

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Macgyver said:
I know that. Your just assuming they have a CDL and what it takes to get one.
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Yeah, a couple of months ago there was a construction firm working on the highway and overpass a few blocks from where I work. As I was going home that night I saw about 12 cop cars and state troopers fly by me with lights and sirens. Found out the next day that the driver of a bulldozer ran over and killed a deputy who was working off duty at the site. The driver of the dozer took off running. They found him after a short manhunt and he had changed clothes and was trying to hide in some nearby woods. Turns out he was an illegal and one of his coworkers, who was also illegal, gave him the change of clothes to help him hide. The state came in and investigated the construction firm and found out over half of their employees were illegals.

You think they would check that before awarding a contract?
 
BornFree

BornFree

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There are so many possibilities. Bad actors could plant an explosive device on a truck without the drivers knowledge. They could follow him from a distance and wait for him to go under the bridge. Send a signal and boom. Now I am not saying that happened here, but in warfare all things are possible. I have not heard if their were any witnesses.
 
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anna43

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An accident/fire a couple of years ago caused serious damage to overpass on I-80 or I-35 (they are together for a while). Don't recall any details but the fire caused structural damage. I believe in that instance it was repairable and there was no collapse. The cause of the accident could be one of a million different things from driver error to another vehicle so no reason to speculate.
 
Ragnarok

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Human remains are found in wreckage on Philadelphia's I-95 after tanker truck fire

Human remains have been found in the wreckage of the Interstate 95 collapse in Philadelphia.

Part of the major US highway, which extends from the Maine-Canada border south to Miami, Florida, collapsed on Sunday after a tanker truck carrying an estimated 8,500 gallons of fuel caught fire.

It brought traffic to a stop on the artery, on which more than 160,000 vehicles a day travel, and has now resulted in at least one fatality.

Sources told Action 6 News that the driver's remains were removed from the cab of the tractor-trailer Monday morning but the victim has not been publicly identified.

It is believed to be those of Nathaniel Moody, whose family members confirmed he was the driver of the tractor-trailer.

Officials are now working to clear the site and allow traffic to once again move along the major north-south corridor ahead of the summer vacation rush, but the clean-up efforts may take months to complete.

Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg warned the collapse could once again snarl the country's supply chain.

The remains are believed to be those of Nathaniel Moody, whose family have identified him as the driver of a tractor-trailer that caught fire Sunday morning


The remains are believed to be those of Nathaniel Moody, whose family have identified him as the driver of a tractor-trailer that caught fire Sunday morning
The tanker truck fire broke out around 6am and caused the collapse of an overpass on I-95

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Human remains are found in wreckage on Philadelphia's I-95

Human remains have been found in the wreckage of the I-95 collapse in Philadelphia on Monday. They have not been publicly identified.
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Macgyver

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Northbound is crushed up. Not sure what they are doing with the south bound side. They ripped the barrier off of it, you can still see the rebar.
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vernrun

vernrun

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I drove by the site today en route to work. The southbound 95 roadway bridge is not salvageable and was undergoing demolition.
Local news is showing a security camera clip leading up to the explosion. Look at upper left quadrant of the video and you can see the tanker entering the Cottman off-ramp at what appears to be excessive ie highway speed. Having been a CDL A tanker w Hazmat driver myself, I find this video to be astounding. Intentional suicide or the "driver" was acting highly suspect....not like the experienced, routinely drug tested trucker we are being told was behind the wheel.

I95 tanker crash caught on surveillance video
 
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bluelady

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vernrun said:
I drove by the site today en route to work. The southbound 95 roadway bridge is not salvageable and was undergoing demolition.
Local news is showing a security camera clip leading up to the explosion. Look at upper left quadrant of the video and you can see the tanker entering the Cottman off-ramp at what appears to be excessive ie highway speed. Having been a CDL A tanker w Hazmat driver myself, I find this video to be astounding. Intentional suicide or the "driver" was acting highly suspect....not like the experienced, routinely drug tested trucker we are being told was behind the wheel.

I95 tanker crash caught on surveillance video
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Definitely looked like he was going too fast to make the curve. Doesn't appear to be slick pavement, but impairment, mechanical problems, fatigue, health crisis, distraction, carelessness, intentional? :(
 
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WalknTrot

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vernrun said:
I drove by the site today en route to work. The southbound 95 roadway bridge is not salvageable and was undergoing demolition.
Local news is showing a security camera clip leading up to the explosion. Look at upper left quadrant of the video and you can see the tanker entering the Cottman off-ramp at what appears to be excessive ie highway speed. Having been a CDL A tanker w Hazmat driver myself, I find this video to be astounding. Intentional suicide or the "driver" was acting highly suspect....not like the experienced, routinely drug tested trucker we are being told was behind the wheel.

I95 tanker crash caught on surveillance video
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Wow. Thanks for finding the video. Yeah...he was flying alright. Yowsers.
 
CTFIREBATTCHIEF

CTFIREBATTCHIEF

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Holy CRAP on a cracker, that guy took that ramp at full highway speed. I think the speed limit in that stretch is 55 mph BUT if you believe people are doing that posted speed in light traffic I have a bridge in brooklyn to sell you. WAY too fast for the curve. I don't care what he was carrying for cargo, that truck wasn't coming out the other side on it's wheels
 
Macgyver

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summerthyme said:
What did he do, hit the main supports? He was FLYING!

Summerthyme
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There is no supports, it "was" a clear span from wall to wall.

Hard to tell from the video but it looks like he was tipping over before even being under the bridge.
There is also a blown out section of the barrier, probably where he first hit before even being under the bridge.
But the dirt there looks fresh which is weird. I wonder if they dumped the dirt over the barrier so they could crawl the excavator over it?


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Wildweasel

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PennDOT reveals bridge repair plans: "Fill it in and pave it over."

So why was the exit ramp there in the first place if you can just permanently close it?

PennDOT logic.:strs::strs::strs::strs::strs::strs::strs::strs::strs:
 
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WalknTrot

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Wildweasel said:
PennDOT reveals bridge repair plans: "Fill it in and pave it over."

So why was the exit ramp there in the first place if you can just permanently close it?

PennDOT logic.:strs::strs::strs::strs::strs::strs::strs::strs::strs:
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If that's the short-term plan, probably just expedient to get the highway back up and running. Post detours for the lost exit, and deal with a new bridge and exit later. Makes some sense I guess, if they do it right.
 
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