ALERT NORTH KOREA SHELLS SOUTH ISLAND- SOUTH RETURNS FIRE

buff

Deceased
this could be the end.....a nuke could fly at any moment..

I don't want to be an alarmist..

but NK needs to be slapped silly at this moment..
 

Lilbitsnana

On TB every waking moment
Don't these two trade shells all the time???

Not like this.

OT...Kennedy was killed the day I was born, now it's possible that a major war with a nuclear capable madman has started on my 47th b-day. I am not a jinx...:shk:

Hopefully this isn't going to go as far as it could. But stupidhead does want to go out in a blaze of glory and we've known it for a long time. Not exactly encouraging.
 

Mr. Mayor

Formerly the Mayor
ALJAZEERA: Roughly 200 shells fired. 2 civilians, 14 soldiers injured. SK President wants de-escalation. Residents moved to bunkers....
 

Mr. Mayor

Formerly the Mayor
AFP: Russia warns against escalation of Korean tensions after artillery exchange

http://twitter.com/W7VOA - Steve Herman who is a Voice of America (VOA) Bureau Chief/Correspondent mainly covering NE Asia (Korean peninsula & Japan).
 

Mr. Mayor

Formerly the Mayor
HANNAH BAE (Yonhap News) TWITTER - Even the N Korea experts I talk to seem bewildered about the motive and intention. "Such an extreme level of brinkmanship," one says.
 

Mr. Mayor

Formerly the Mayor
YONHAP NEWS - SEOUL, Nov. 23 (Yonhap) -- South Korea is considering pulling its nationals out of North Korea after the two countries exchanged gunfire across their Yellow Sea border, an official said Tuesday.

"We will decide whether we should evacuate them or not after looking into the safety of those at the Mount Kumgang resort and the Kaesong industrial park," the Unification Ministry official said, speaking on the customary condition of anonymity.

The official also said the government will reconsider its plan to hold Red Cross talks with North Korea on Thursday in the western South Korean border town of Munsan.

"We will make our position. At this moment, we're concentrating on checking the situation," the official said. At least four South Korean soldiers were wounded in the exchange of gunshots, according to military officials.

http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/northkorea/2010/11/23/36/0401000000AEN20101123007200315F.HTML
 

truthseeker

Membership Revoked
Several killed, others hurt after North Korea attacks South Korean island

http://newsflash.ws/2556/several-killed-others-hurt-after-north-korea-attacks-south-korean-island/

Thick plumes of black smoke were rising from a South Korean island on Tuesday afternoon after an unexpected attack by North Korea, killing several people.

The attack began around 2.30 p.m. local time when North Korea fired more than 200 artillery shells near the South Korean island of Yeonpyeong, which has a population of nearly 1,200. As many as 70 houses were reported to be on fire, sending huge plumes of black smoke into the air.

The Korean Broadcasting System (KBS) reported that at least several people had been killed in the attack, while the South Korean Yonhap news agency reported that at least 14 South Korean soldiers had been injured, including four who were seriously injured. At least four civilians were also injured.

Seoul confirmed it responded with artillery fire and scrambled F-16 fighter jets to respond to the sudden attack, which comes days after North Korea unveiled a vast new facility it secretly and rapidly built to enrich uranium.

South Korean government officials, including President Lee Myung-bak, were meeting at an underground bunker in Seoul to discuss how to respond to the attack. Lee said he was trying to prevent a greater conflict, although his spokesman said he was still considering how to respond.

The Bank of Korea said it has scheduled an emergency meeting of senior officials in wake of the attack, which has lowered the Won against the Dollar.

Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei told reporters in wake of the attack that both sides should do things conducive to peace and stability. "We are concerned about the issue and the real situation needs to be confirmed," he said.
 

plantman

Veteran Member
We are so screwed if this tinder fire isn't put out asap. Three simultaneous conflicts? OMG. Time to pray folks.
 

Mr. Mayor

Formerly the Mayor
ALJAZEERA: Chinese officials release statement. Say they are "very concerned" about the report. Are checking into report of artillery fire.
 

Mr. Mayor

Formerly the Mayor
STEVE HERMAN VIA TWITTER: South Korea's foreign affairs ministry tweeting about the Asian Games while the country is under attack. Unbelievable.
 

Mr. Mayor

Formerly the Mayor
STEVE HERMAN TWITTER FEED - 2.5 hours after the N. Korean attack began, no S. Korean gov't official has appeared on TV to make a statement.
 

Mr. Mayor

Formerly the Mayor
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Mr. Mayor

Formerly the Mayor
IRISHTIMES.COM:
N Korea fires missiles at South

North Korea has fired a number of missiles at its southern neighbour, according to reports.

One witness said the shelling, which targeted a South Korean controlled-island appears to have stopped as residents flee on fishing boats.

A number of South Korean soldiers are reported to have been injured in the barrage.

South Korea scrambled fighter jets and returned fire after North Korea fired dozens of shells into its territory, injuring four soldiers, Yonhap News reported.

A South Korean Defence Ministry official, who declined to be identified, confirmed the shelling, without giving any further details. The military has been put on high alert and will "respond strongly" to further provocation, he said.

The latest development comes as the United States and its allies accused North Korea of being a danger to the region after it showed off its latest advances in uranium enrichment, but Washington said it was still open to talks.

The reported sighting of more than a thousand centrifuges at its main nuclear complex appears to confirm the impoverished North, which already has a plutonium-based bomb, is on the way to creating a second source of weapons-grade nuclear material.

It comes just as Pyongyang is pressing regional powers to resume talks on its atomic weapons programme - about the only real leverage it has with the outside world.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2010/1123/breaking3.html
 

Mr. Mayor

Formerly the Mayor
YONHAP NEWS
West sea island severely damaged by N. Korean artillery: official
INCHEON, Nov. 23 (Yonhap) -- South Korea's west sea island of Yeonpyeong, hit by at least 50 artillery shells abruptly fired by North Korea, remained in a state of chaos on Tuesday, with its mountains and civilian homes ablaze in fire, a local government official said.

A spokesman for Incheon Metropolitan City, to which Yeonpyeong Island belongs, said at least four island residents were wounded by the North Korean artillery attacks that began early Tuesday afternoon.
 

Mr. Mayor

Formerly the Mayor
YONHAP NEWS - S. Korea to consider whether to push for U.N. condemnation of N. Korea - SEOUL, Nov. 23 (Yonhap) -- South Korea will consider whether it should push the United Nations to condemn North Korea for firing artillery across their Yellow Sea border and killing at least one soldier, a foreign ministry official said Tuesday.
 

shane

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Usually this sort of NK provocation is to get some sort of pending trade
concession expedited for assurances to back off and cool things down.

Usually...

Got God, Grub, Guns & Gold?
Panic Early, Beat the Rush!


- Shane
 

Mr. Mayor

Formerly the Mayor
STEVE HERMAN (VOICE OF AMERICA) TWEET: VOA has spoken with an island fishing boat capt. Says there was initial barrage of 15 shells. Then 40-min. respite b4 shelling resumed.
 

northern watch

TB Fanatic
Korean Artillery Exchange and Irish Debt Hit Markets

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Korean Artillery Exchange and Irish Debt Hit Markets
By Alex Richardson
November 23, 2010

SINGAPORE (Reuters) - The dollar and U.S. Treasuries rose and U.S. stock futures fell on Tuesday after a major exchange of artillery fire on the Korean peninsula.

The euro, stocks and commodities also fell as a bailout for Ireland failed to allay fears of a wider crisis.

North Korean artillery fired dozens of shells onto a South Korean island near their disputed sea border, wounding several people, setting fire to buildings and prompting a return of fire by the South, Seoul's military and media reported.

Seoul's financial markets had already closed but international markets reacted, with the dollar up 0.4 percent on the day against a basket of currency. The dollar index <.DXY> rose from 78.77 before the reports to a session high of 79.07.

U.S. 10-year Treasury futures, a traditional safe haven, were up 0.4 percent on the day and U.S. S&P 500 stock index futures were down 0.9 percent. The won tumbled in offshore markets and the yen eased.

European markets were seen opening mixed, with the Korean drama adding to concerns about the euro zone.

As Beijing tightens monetary policy to rein in inflation, worries of faltering Chinese demand for raw materials -- in the short term at least -- knocked metals prices and were another factor hammering shares, particular in resource-focused Australia.

"Investors seem unable to move beyond European debt contagion fears and concerns of further China policy tightening," said IG Markets strategist Ben Potter.

The euro had initially spiked on Monday on news of a European Union and International Monetary Fund bailout for Ireland, where a property bust has pushed the nation's banks to the brink of collapse and blown a hole in the public finances.

But it swiftly reversed course as the coalition government in Dublin, deeply unpopular after presiding over the implosion of an economy dubbed the "Celtic Tiger" for its double-digit growth in the late 1990s, looked to be facing a struggle to pass an austerity budget that is a condition of the aid.
The single currency was driven back below $1.36 on Tuesday as the Irish turmoil stoked fears that a crisis that has already engulfed Greece will spread to other indebted euro zone nations, with Portugal and Spain in nervous bond investors' sights.

"They've addressed the Greek problem, they're addressing the Irish problem, people are now questioning where is the next one ... the political turmoil in Ireland also doesn't help," said Grant Turley, strategist at ANZ in Sydney.

Asian stock markets fell, following declines on Wall Street the previous day, with MSCI's index of Asia Pacific shares outside Japan <.MIAPJ0000PUS> shedding 1.9 percent. Tokyo markets were closed for a holiday.

Australian shares <.AXJO> lost 1.2 percent to hit a seven-week low. Banks and miners led the retreat, with National Australia Bank down 1.8 percent and BHP Billiton off 1.7 percent.

The biggest stock market falls were in Hong Kong <.HSI> and Shanghai <.SSEC>, down 2.4 percent and 1.9 percent respectively, where investors dumped mining and metals stocks.

Moves by the authorities to cool the property market continued to weigh in Hong Kong, where the property sub-index <.HSNP> fell 3 percent. <.HK> <.SS>

On Monday U.S. financial stocks had slid on fears of exposure to Europe's debt woes and concerns about a broad insider trading probe. The KBW bank index <.KBX> fell 1.5 percent and JPMorgan Chase & Co fell 2.3 percent. <.N>

DOWNSIDE RISK

The euro traded around $1.3555, below Monday's session trough of $1.3574. The single currency had risen as high as $1.3786 on Monday.

"The fact that sentiment turned so quickly, that the Irish government is heading toward an election and that Moody's talked about downgrading Ireland are all not helping," said Greg Gibbs, strategist at RBS.

"It reveals a lack of underlying demand for European sovereign and financial assets and point to the downside risk for the euro."

Against the yen, the euro slipped to around 113.40 from two-week highs near 115.0 yen.

A stronger dollar often weighs on commodity markets, making assets priced in the U.S. currency more expensive for holders of other currencies.
U.S. crude oil futures lost 50 cents, or around 0.6 percent, to trade at $81.24 a barrel, gold fell around 0.5 percent and copper and zinc were also weaker.


http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory?id=12220325
 

Mr. Mayor

Formerly the Mayor
YONHAP NEWS - Gov't to check economic impact of N. Korean artillery attack
SEOUL, Nov. 23 (Yonhap) -- The government will hold a meeting of economic policymakers to check the economic fallout of North Korea's artillery attack on Yeonpyeong Island in the West Sea, officials said Tuesday.

The finance ministry said the meeting, scheduled for Wednesday, will be attended by senior officials from the Financial Services Commission, the Ministry of Knowledge Economy and the central Bank of Korea (BOK).
 
So we may have a profound confirmation of my general thesis about the insanity of man unfolding here.

I recently posted a series of videos on YouTube regarding "Dow 11000 & Manic-Depressive Man".

In this series I highlight how history unfolds in cycles and this can be explicitly seen by how reversals from psychologically important thousand marks in the DJIA coincide with historical shocks like the October 1973 Yom Kippur Arab-Israeli War (Dow 1K), Iraq's invasion of Kuwait in 1990 (Dow 3K) and 9/11 (Dow 10K):

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While the focus in my writings has been on the DJIA, this also applies to other widely followed stock indices in other countries. As for a Korean crisis, obviously the key benchmarks in that part of the world would be South Korea's KOSPI, Japan's Nikkei, Hong Kong's Hang Seng and China's SSE. Low and behold, note how these major stock indices recently reversed from the 2000, 10000, 25000 and 3000 marks respectively:

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As for the DJIA, it is poised above the 11000 mark. The reversal from Dow 11K in September of 2008 marked when the financial crisis hit that led to the Great Recession and currently ongoing global crisis. Another such reversal also occurred just before the May "flash crash" associated with the onset of the EU crisis that may soon be coming to a head:

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So what?

Again, my point is that history is unfolding according to deterministic wave patterns and I believe this is proof that there is an overarching AUTHOR of human history. The ultimate form of delusional insanity that our species suffers from is in not recognizing this reality.
 
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Ben Sunday

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ALJAZEERA: Reports: South Korea on its highest non-war alert

Maybe, maybe not...

>>>

@REUTERSFLASH: S.Korea top presidential aides meeting in underground bunker at presidential compound - Official (via @AnnNyberg)

WIRE REPORT - The Republic of South Korea is now on TOP ALERT STATUS. Scrambled confirmed and military command alert level raised to highest level. 2 a.m. Eastern Tuesday.

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Mr. Mayor

Formerly the Mayor
Maybe, maybe not...

>>>

@REUTERSFLASH: S.Korea top presidential aides meeting in underground bunker at presidential compound - Official (via @AnnNyberg)

WIRE REPORT - The Republic of South Korea is now on TOP ALERT STATUS. Scrambled confirmed and military command alert level raised to highest level. 2 a.m. Eastern Tuesday.

<<<

CNN: The South Korean army also raised its alert condition, the report said.
 

Mr. Mayor

Formerly the Mayor
The North's artillery shells started falling in the South's waters off the island of Yeonpyeong around 2:34 p.m., some of them landing directly on the island, said Col. Lee Bung-woo, spokesman for the South's Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS). The South's military fired back some 80 rounds, he said. The entire military was immediately put on its highest peacetime alert, he said, noting that the Air Force has deployed fighter jets to the island.

http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/national/2010/11/23/44/0301000000AEN20101123008800315F.HTML
 

Mr. Mayor

Formerly the Mayor
VOICE OF AMERICA TWEET: 3 hrs. into crisis not one #ROK gov't official has appeared on TV to speak to reporters or the nation
 

Mr. Mayor

Formerly the Mayor
China urges peace and talk after North Korea shells South

BEIJING (Reuters) – China expressed worry about reports that North Korea had shelled a South Korean island on Tuesday in the latest escalation of tensions on the Korean peninsula that neighbors the world's second-biggest economy.

A spokesman for the Chinese Foreign Ministry, Hong Lei, told a news conference both sides of the divided Korean peninsula should "do more to contribute to peace," and said it was imperative to return to six-party talks aimed at ending North Korea's nuclear weapons program.

"We have heard reports and express our concern. The situation still needs to be confirmed," said Hong, responding to a question about the North Korean artillery attack.

"China hopes that the relevant parties will do more to contribute to peace and stability in the region," he added.

"It is imperative now to resume the six-party talks."

China is North Korea's only major ally, and its economic and diplomatic support have been important to shoring up its otherwise isolated neighbor, whose leader Kim Jong-il visited China twice this year to strengthen ties.

But those ties have become a sore point with Washington after revelations that North Korea appears to have made big steps toward enriching uranium. A U.S. envoy on the issue, Stephen Bosworth, arrived in Beijing on Tuesday.

The stalled six-party talks bring together China, North and South Korea, the United States, Japan and Russia and have sought to end Pyongyang's nuclear weapons development in return for aid.

The impoverished and isolated North depends heavily on its only major ally for economic and diplomatic support and its leader, Kim Jong-il, has visited China twice this year, in part to gain backing for the anointment of his son to eventually take over the family dynasty.

A U.S. academic, Siegfried Hecker, who recently visited North Korea, said at the weekend he had seen more than a thousand centrifuges for enriching uranium during a tour of the North's Yongbyon nuclear complex.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20101123/ts_nm/us_korea_china_shelling
 

Mr. Mayor

Formerly the Mayor
VOICE OF AMERICA TWEET: Residents on Yeongpyeong describing scene of utter chaos. Mountains, homes ablaze from #DPRK artillery attack.
 
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