MNKYPOX Monkeypox - Consolidated Thread.

psychgirl

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bw said:
I'm curious about the mode of death for MP. Does the body shut down from toxins and such? Does the victim starve because eating/self-care is too painful? Or does collapsing nutrition make the victim vulnerable to other hazards/infections?
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I’m not positive…. but I’m guessing sepsis, from what I’ve read.
These lesions easily become infected.

There are internal lesions, I’ve also read where breathing was hindered due to oral and severe laryngeal lesions…

Lungs, you name it. What you CAN see, is also happening where you can NOT see.

So yeah, toxins and blood infection.

I read a long break down (or attempted to read, lol…it was getting to be too much) of early animal studies. Those animals ALSO had anal and perianal lesions. So unless there are homosexual hamsters , rabbits and rodents …I’m guessing pox has an affinity for the mucosal membranes.
 
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jward

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excellent question. IIRC what I read was that it was heavily reflective of the second and third things you mentioned- those countries where it was endemic just didn't often provide the support care to get folks thru.
..will keep an eye open for answers to that tho, as I may be confusing it with other issues and locations.

bw said:
I'm curious about the mode of death for MP. Does the body shut down from toxins and such? Does the victim starve because eating/self-care is too painful? Or does collapsing nutrition make the victim vulnerable to other hazards/infections?
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Any virus attacks the immune system and stresses it. Multiple lesions filled with pus would easily lead to secondary complications.

People die from MRSA, or even C Diff, common bacteria that can be acquired from pig farms to hospitals, yet still not as bad as a virus. Bacteria can usually be treated with antibiotics. Viruses, not so much.

So you get viral pneumonias, viral sepsis which can pop up anywhere in the body. Etc.

Its not the virus so much (unless severely immune compromised) but the secondary issues most would die from.
 
SageRock

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Information on the R0 for monkeypox. This is an excerpt from the article, which is relatively brief and worth reading in its entirety. The article dates from September 1, 2020, "Modelling human-to-human transmission of monkeypox."

To summarize, the R0 for smallpox is estimated to be between 3.5 and 6, while that for monkeypox is estimated to be around 2.13, with uncertainty bounds of 1.46 to 2.67, but definitely much lower than that for smallpox. In a vaccinated population, the R0 is well below 1, but in a mostly unvaccinated population, there is certainly potential for an epidemic.

Modelling human-to-human transmission of monkeypox

"The reproduction number, denoted by R, is often used to quantify the ability of an emerging disease to invade a population. R is defined as the expected number of secondary infections per primary infection, whereby the basic reproduction number, R0, refers to the context of a fully susceptible population. When R is above 1, epidemic potential has been reached. An R0 above 1 indicates that the disease has epidemic potential. Mathematical modelling of smallpox transmission often invokes the simplifying assumption that smallpox infection or vaccination yields perfect, lifelong immunity. The same assumption may hold for monkeypox, for which much less is known about infection. The theory of transmission of infectious diseases with perfect cross-immunity shows that, between two infectious diseases competing to infect susceptible hosts, the disease with the larger R0 prevails, while the other is eliminated. The R0 for smallpox has previously been estimated between 3.5 and 6.0; hence, theoretically, R0 for monkeypox must be smaller. Furthermore, the theory emphasizes the critical role of the animal reservoir for the persistence of monkeypox. In the case where herd immunity is induced through vaccination at birth, with a vaccine delivering perfect, lifelong immunity, which only takes in a fraction ε of those vaccinated (ε is called vaccine efficacy), R and R0 are related by the following equation: R = R0 (1-εp), where p is the vaccination coverage and εp is the effective vaccination coverage.

We performed analyses of the transmission potential for both smallpox and monkeypox, using data collected in the Democratic Republic of the Congo during 1966–1984. Smallpox vaccination in this country ended in 1980, with vaccination coverage of nearly 100%. Assuming that R0 for smallpox was 3.5–6.0,7 and vaccine efficacy was 80–95%, we estimated R for smallpox at 0.59 (uncertainty bounds 0.18–1.2), consistent with the epidemiological observation of no smallpox cases in the country beyond 1980. Data collected in the Democratic Republic of the Congo during 1980–19845, show that R for the Congo basin clade of monkeypox at that time was 0.32 (uncertainty bounds 0.22–0.40). This result is consistent with the epidemiological observation that monkeypox transmission among humans in the country was not self-sustained. However, using 85% for vaccinia efficacy (meaning effective coverage) against monkeypox and the above equation, we calculated R0 for monkeypox to be 2.13 (uncertainty bounds 1.46–2.67), smaller than R0 for smallpox, but larger than 1. We therefore postulate that monkeypox had epidemic potential in the Democratic Republic of the Congo in the early 1980s."

Edited to add: I find it interesting that this article was published by the Bulletin of the World Health Organization on September 1, 2020. Almost like they were getting ready in advance...
 
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phloydius

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helen

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CBS - Woman with monkeypox gave birth.

CDC officials said the newborn was given an infusion of immune globulin, an antibody treatment which the agency has permission from the Food and Drug Administration to deploy during monkeypox outbreaks.
"That neonate received the IG prophylactically. And both mom and baby are doing well," said the CDC's Dr. Brett Petersen on the webinar.
www.cbsnews.com

U.S. spots first monkeypox case in a pregnant woman as cases climb

While pregnant women are among those at the highest risk of severe disease, both mom and baby are "doing well" so far.
www.cbsnews.com www.cbsnews.com
 
psychgirl

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helen said:
CBS - Woman with monkeypox gave birth.

CDC officials said the newborn was given an infusion of immune globulin, an antibody treatment which the agency has permission from the Food and Drug Administration to deploy during monkeypox outbreaks.
"That neonate received the IG prophylactically. And both mom and baby are doing well," said the CDC's Dr. Brett Petersen on the webinar.
www.cbsnews.com

U.S. spots first monkeypox case in a pregnant woman as cases climb

While pregnant women are among those at the highest risk of severe disease, both mom and baby are "doing well" so far.
www.cbsnews.com www.cbsnews.com
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Good Lord.
And that antibody infusion?
This is the first I’ve heard about any treatment such as this??

Seems to me those early cases with severe, severe pain and infection….why they didn’t have access to this?
 
Tigerlily

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psychgirl said:
#Monkeypox can wreak a havoc, just like any other virus it mutates, the longer the virus stays in communities more mutations will take place. Already the current strain has 50 mutations from the older versions. These mutations may lead to more contagious and more virulent virus.
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Consider this statement by Dr Kahn. He is reminding everyone, that it could change and become more deadly. Now, remember that Wuhan lab was developing monkeypox. Is it out of the realm of possibility, they introduced a version with low mortality, so that it could spread all around the world, ignored by the vast majority, before they release, in multiple locations, a deadly serious version. Then everyone, including the complicit CDC, could say "Oh no, this is a new mutation and it kills 15% of those who catch it!!"
 
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Tigerlily said:
Consider this statement by Dr Kahn. He is reminding everyone, that it could change and become more deadly. Now, remember that Wuhan lab was developing monkeypox. Is it out of the realm of possibility, they introduced a version with low mortality, so that it could spread all around the world, ignored by the vast majority, before they release, in multiple locations, a deadly serious version. Then everyone, including the complicit CDC, could say "Oh no, this is a new mutation and it kills 15% of those who catch it!!"
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I really think Covid and MP are part of the low yield biowarfare.
 
phloydius

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phloydius

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Note: This is the first time I've seen a statistic on the number of hospitalizations. This number is considerably higher than the main stream media is implying for this mild disease. If anyone sees the source report for this data out there, please post it, I would love to find more information. The implications in the media have been there there have only been a "few" hospitalizations.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1552286714818961410
View: https://twitter.com/Monkeypoxtally/status/1552286714818961410



Monkeypoxtally
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WHO: 10% of Monkeypox cases have been hospitalized
8:36 AM · Jul 27, 2022
 
psychgirl

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phloydius said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1552048978832658433
View: https://twitter.com/T_Inglesby/status/1552048978832658433


Tom Inglesby, MD @T_Inglesby
Test capacity has increased to 80,000 tests a week, and now a top priority is getting higher awareness among clinicians around country to raise recognition of the disease and it’s manifestations, and how to rapidly test - this work is ongoing 5/x
4:51 PM · Jul 26, 2022
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Good luck with that.
I feel like I’m in alternate universe.
Not a word on radio, tv, nothing discussed by other people; it’s only Twitter doctors screaming for help, and us, here talking.

I’m not even going to bring it up. Tired of blank stares.
 
psychgirl

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phloydius said:
Note: This is the first time I've seen a statistic on the number of hospitalizations. This number is considerably higher than the main stream media is implying for this mild disease. If anyone sees the source report for this data out there, please post it, I would love to find more information. The implications in the media have been there there have only been a "few" hospitalizations.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1552286714818961410
View: https://twitter.com/Monkeypoxtally/status/1552286714818961410



Monkeypoxtally
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WHO: 10% of Monkeypox cases have been hospitalized
8:36 AM · Jul 27, 2022
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Nope.
I’ve not seen stats either!
I hope their sources are posted.
 
somewherepress

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psychgirl said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1552259340542873606
View: https://twitter.com/Monkeypoxtally/status/1552259340542873606?cxt=HHwWjMC4hazp3YorAAAA
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