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How are your family and friends taking the heads-up?
Out of four siblings, one neutral response and three dead silence.
Of the others on the mailing - one definite interest.
How are your family and friends taking the heads-up?
I've read that occasionally, someone will appear to start to recover for several weeks, and then crash back down and die from ebola. This is an evil monster that likes to occasionally give people false hope.
The only way you are going to have any warning that it's HERE (wherever you are) is when word-of-mouth gets going and people are dropping like flies. IOW, local community reporting.
How are your family and friends taking the heads-up?
Back on Aug. 6th, Zerohedge published a report that the number of Ebola cases had gone "exponential". (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-06/ebola-deaths-go-exponential-nigeria-demands-experimental-drug-us?page=11)
Does anyone have more recent data on the number of reported cases and fatalities? I'd love to see those graphs updated...
Thanks,
Tristan
I heard an interview tonight as I was driving home from the ATLANTA HARTSFIELD AIRPORT to meet some of my sons' friends, who have just returned from a trip (to Australia, so they didn't have to fly thru airports likely to be picking up ebola carriers), where an expert was being interviewed about the situation on the ground in Sierra Leone.
He said the "official" number is over 1,000 dead now---but that he personally believes the more accurate number is THREE TIMES THAT HIGH---OVER 3000."
He bases this on how many people are running away to hide--and die--in the jungles, abandoning whole villages with the dead still in them, and then dying by the dozens in the jungle.
He openly admitted "we don't KNOW how many have died" and that "the situation is still out of control and WILL BE out of control for SEVERAL MONTHS to come"
I heard the broadcast on 106.7 FM in Atlanta around 11 pm---will try to find out who it was.
Just talked to a missionary I know in South Africa. He says he has not heard of any cases there and in fact no one is really even talking about ebola.
I think doomers and profiteers are blowing this crap out of proportion. TPTB may even be doing this to use as an excuse to move forth with their agenda.
Just talked to a missionary I know in South Africa. He says he has not heard of any cases there and in fact no one is really even talking about ebola.
I think doomers and profiteers are blowing this crap out of proportion. TPTB may even be doing this to use as an excuse to move forth with their agenda.
On the operational side, WHO said it is finalising its strategic operations response plan and expects to share it with countries and partners in the coming days.
And if that is true, are they contagious throughout? And are they being kept isolated during this "recovery" period?
What gets me is, there's so much that even we lowly laymen can think to ask, and those who consider themselves authorities on the disease are giving categorical and definitive answers. And to top it off, I just can't be calmed by a categorical answer that contains the word "should"
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Nairobi, Kenya: The Kenya Medical Association has called for quarantine of all passengers who fly in from West African in order to eliminate chances of the deadly Ebola virus coming to the country and wreaking havoc.
Speaking Thursday morning, KMA National Chairman Dr. Elly Nyaim said that the hundreds of passengers flying in should be isolated and monitored for at least 21 days which is the incubation period of the disease.
“We do not mean to be alarmists, but all steps must be taken to protect the country from the disease. The quarantine measure may be inconvenient to many people but it may be necessary to protect Kenyans from Ebola,” he said.
i may have to just go into isolation just to quarantine myself from the sheer magnitude of the ineptitude and criminal malfeasance in our leaders and the stupidity of our "fellow citizens".
All I can say is that you need to keep your mind open to the possibility. And pay attention to the pros who are NOT in the government's pay, who have always been very critical of the agencies. You dismiss and ignore this developing situation at your peril. But if you have decided to do nothing, regardless of what facts arise, then I can understand your stance. There are many in your camp.
Part of the problem is that many people are not steeped in the unforgiving nature of infectious diseases, that once certain capabilities have been shown to be evident for any given virus/bacteria, then one ineluctably comes to almost certain conclusions as to its capabilities and possibilities.
And to reject that calculus out of hand is to let your emotions and lack of rigor override logic and science.
This could be big but its so small right now it does not deserve the attention its getting. People are making this sound like its certain death. Not just here but many places. Mainly online.
Everyone should take the precautions you mentioned in your newsletter, learn to recognize the very simple signs of possible Ebola I mentioned above (bleeding eyes, bleeding nose), and take care to stay away from any such individual.
Question for Medical Maven, and others, about Dr. Fauci's comments in the New England Journal of Medicine article - http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp1409494?query=featured_home&
Here's a snippet, please note the sentence I italicized and underscored:
"It is essential to obtain a careful and prompt travel history. The incubation period typically lasts 5 to 7 days, although it can be as short as 2 days and as long as 21 days. Blood specimens usually begin to test positive on polymerase-chain-reaction–based diagnostics 1 day before symptoms appear. "
If the incubation period can be from 2 to 21 days, and blood tests are positive only a day before symptoms appear, does this seem to indicate that many of those negative test results could be simply that they were taken too early in the incubation period? And if so, that a number of those negatives could be infective even though they are not showing any obvious symptoms yet? Not sure if I'm reading too much into this.
No offense to George Ure, whom I read for years back when I liked being scared silly every day, but if this guy is a doctor, then I'm a duck.
There's enough about this situation to cause nightmares without this kind of reprehensible mixture of truth and fiction.
(sorry for being harsh, no offense meant to you, Hansa44)
Forest fires in dry timber start small, but they deserve a lot of attention.
You don't need to worry yet, if you're reasonably prepared for self isolation later on. You can sit back and wait for developments. But if you're totally unprepared for a pandemic to sweep your town, then now is a great time to devote some attention to it.
It's clear that this is not certain death, and I've seen no comment anywhere on these threads that Ebola is certain death. Got a link? Best guess at this point is that it's killing over half.
Pixie: And a reminder. Obi Justina Ejelonu has passed away but hopefully her words will inform the future approach to this virus and will help protect other medical workers.
Another nurse who was working when Sawyer was brought to the hospital from the airport went on Facebook and reasoned that she had not been exposed enough to have caught the dread disease:
“I never contacted his fluids. I checked his vitals, helped him with his food (he was too weak),” wrote the nurse, Obi Justina Ejelonu. “I basically touched where his hands touched and that’s the only contact. Not directly with his fluids. At a stage, he yanked off his infusion and we had blood everywhere on his bed…But the ward maids took care of that and changed his linens with great precaution.”
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/14/how-bureaucrats-let-ebola-spread-to-nigeria.html?
A really excellent summary of the very complex tale of Sawyer and the destruction left in his wake has been written by Michael Daly.
I've highlighted the new information below but the entire piece is well worth reading.
There is a lot of misinformation around, often mixed with some truth, so that makes it sound reasonable unless a person has seriously done homework by reading a lot.
Half the truth is often a great lie. - Benjamin Franklin
Soon the ability to gather and disperse first hand info will be gone.
South Africa might as well be on a different Continent. Its a completely different world there.Just talked to a missionary I know in South Africa. He says he has not heard of any cases there and in fact no one is really even talking about ebola.
I think doomers and profiteers are blowing this crap out of proportion. TPTB may even be doing this to use as an excuse to move forth with their agenda.
If New Ebola gets here in a significant way, discussions like this one on the internet, open for all to see, will be banned. The necessary Executive Orders to enforce such bans are already in effect. Or there will be a "denial of service" type attack that will achieve the same thing. And one will be left wondering if the excessive traffic that froze the site was real or otherwise.