bw
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If you're buying rice, buy it from Stanselrice.com. Prep happy.
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If you're buying rice, buy it from Stanselrice.com. Prep happy.
northern watch
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EndGameWW3 @EndGameWW3 15m15 minutes ago
South Korea and Vietnam are asking millions to stay home to avoid coronavirus as more people get infected and die outside of China https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-quarantines-south-korea-vietnam-more-die-outside-china-2020-2?utmSource=twitter&utmContent=referral&utmTerm=topbar&referrer=twitter … via@businessinsider
South Korea and Vietnam are asking millions to stay home to avoid coronavirus as more people get infected and die outside of China https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-quarantines-south-korea-vietnam-more-die-outside-china-2020-2?utmSource=twitter&utmContent=referral&utmTerm=topbar&referrer=twitter … via
Thank you! You have a gift for explaining complex medical issues to laymen.
northern watch
TB Fanatic
Eunice YoonVerified account @onlyyoontv 5h5 hours ago
#HubeiProvince has told its businesses they are not to resume work before end of March 10. Schools not to re-open until further notice. #coronavirus #China
Seeker22
Has No Life - Lives on TB
People can have a decent conversation again? That'll be nice.
northern watch
TB Fanatic
EndGameWW3 @EndGameWW3 14m14 minutes ago
South Korea city deserted after coronavirus 'super-spreads' through church.
South Korea city deserted after coronavirus 'super-spreads' through church.
northern watch
TB Fanatic
War Room: Pandemic EP…21
Haybails
When In Doubt, Throttle Out!
Yup, I was just joking around.
Your offer is quite generous! Well played fellow-TB2k'er!
HB
TxGal
Day by day
Thanks for another source! We usually buy our Jasmine rice from Costco in a 50lb bag, and it comes from Thailand last I remember. We have our latest purchase stored in canning jars with an O2 absorber. Some rice we've gotten from the LDS Storage Center. I've begun picking up Basmati at the local stores here and there.
Seeker22
Has No Life - Lives on TB
For all those thinking of getting rid of things they don't need. What if that thing will be unobtanium in the very near future? How far down are we going to fall? With the double whammy of plague and GSM and a third possibly being war- those little things like balls of string and pill bottles and peanut butter jars and old ratty clothes look different to me. What can I repurpose those as?
We have had it good for years. That is coming to a screeching halt. I'd rather keep some old useless things a while longer just to see which way the wind blows. And valuable items? Not letting go of a one right now.
If you don't have the manufacturing capability to replace it- keep it. Tote it up, mark the box, put it away and forget about it until the day you need some of it. At least this way, you don't have to swap germs/viruses with somebody to trade or replace.
We have had it good for years. That is coming to a screeching halt. I'd rather keep some old useless things a while longer just to see which way the wind blows. And valuable items? Not letting go of a one right now.
If you don't have the manufacturing capability to replace it- keep it. Tote it up, mark the box, put it away and forget about it until the day you need some of it. At least this way, you don't have to swap germs/viruses with somebody to trade or replace.
Martinhouse
Deceased
Seeker22, that has been exactly my attitude about tossing things I haven't used in ages. No way I'm getting rid of anything the way things could get from now on.
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Wonder how long until the stores are cleaned out of totes and can't get any more?
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Wonder how long until the stores are cleaned out of totes and can't get any more?
20Gauge
TB Fanatic
There is more than anyone is willing to admit. There is plenty of smuggling I am sure.... also there are cross border economic exchanges where a S Korea company works with the N Korea government. Plenty of back and forth for sure....
Seeker22
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Pieces of farm twine or tag ends of yarn from completed projects tie up plants in the garden to their standing sticks. Wind is terrible out here. Pill bottles are nice for saving seeds, or a place to put my own meds I make with the capsule maker and herbs from the garden. Old jeans make braided rugs, while old clothes can be turned into dog beds or quilts. A lot of extra work, but that's the way my grandma did it and it worked fine for her.
All the plastic packaging from the food store is nice to freeze the harvest in, or put dehydrated food in. I have a huge plastic covered thing a cake came in that is going to be perfect as a seed starter in the greenhouse. We paid for all that stuff, might as well find a use for it. We is fixing to be poor through no fault of our own. Prepare accordingly.
Craftypatches
Veteran Member
That is such a change from what the young ones preach now! I agree I don’t like to throw or get rid of things! They say if it’s in a box and hasn’t been used in 6 months to get rid of it! I don’t do that! I’m looking at my books, puzzles, etc as a source of entertainment when I can’t do anything else too! I always felt there may be a day that those things come in handy!
bw
Fringe Ranger
Like shooting clays. Gotta lead it.
Reports of Supernatural Healing, Revivals in Midst of Coronavirus Outbreak
Published3 days ago
AuthorStephen Strang
Posted inThe Strang Report
www.charismamag.com
(Reuters)
Reports of Supernatural Healing, Revivals in Midst of Coronavirus Outbreak
Whenever you turn on the news, you're bound to hear something about the coronavirus right now. Some say it's not as big a deal as it's made out to be, while others are sounding the alarm that it's even worse than is being reported. But what the media isn't telling you is how the coronavirus is affecting the church—and how God is moving in mighty ways even through the outbreak.
As dangerous as this virus is, it's no match for the power of the Holy Spirit. Recently, I interviewed Dennis Balcombe, a missionary to China for the past 40 years. He shared some incredible insights into what God is doing through His people, including the sick coming for healing and people running to churches for hope.
I also recently had an eye-opening interview with Pastor Frank Amedia, whose ministry, POTUS Shield, has a close alliance with the Christian community in China. Amedia's sources, whom he believes are reliable, can confirm Bolcombe's report. Amedia has been on my Strang Reportpodcast many times, offering prophetic and spiritual insight into our culture. This time, he sheds light on what God is doing in the midst of the coronavirus outbreak.
"We've had reports of Christians being healed of this virus by the power of God and the healing of God," he says. "My sources tell me the same thing, whenever there is this kind of a problem—like there was with SARS."
Amedia says the coronavirus is the third plague to hit China in the span of this generation. He points out that when the people can't rely on their government, they look for help elsewhere—and that's when the church has the opportunity to shine brightly with the gospel.
"We're being told that people are coming in swarms to churches, house churches, that there's gospel and evangelism going out in the streets, person to person, that there's supernatural healing."
In our interview, Amedia also shared some other shocking things about the coronavirus that the media isn't reporting. As of right now, the virus has reportedly killed more than 1,700 people and infected over 71,000. But Amedia doesn't believe those numbers are true. According to Amedia's sources, the numbers of deaths and infections are much higher than media outlets are portraying. In fact, he says the number of deaths is allegedly in the tens of thousands.
"What we're hearing is that while this was being kept suppressed by the government of China, people were dying in Wuhan, which is the capital of the Hubei province in the central area of the industrial area of China," Amedia says.
"... We are told that people were dying before it was even admitted. The hospitals didn't know what to do with them. They told them to return home, to stay in their homes, and they were dying. And most of the widespread stories we're getting is that many of them were cremated quickly—some cremated and not even identified for their families, who are still looking for people. They just didn't deal with it appropriately."
Neither is the virus restricted to Wuhan, as some may report, Amedia says. Instead, it's spread to the four corners of China, and there are actually quarantines in many areas. Amedia says this isn't just something his Christian sources are telling him, but also his industrial sources such as businessmen.
The doctor who discovered the virus, who Amedia says was a Christian, brought his concerns about the coronavirus to the attention of the government in late December. In response, the government arrested him and seven other scientists and forced them to sign documents stating that they were wrong. That doctor has since died from the virus.
Now, though, Amedia says there is record of over 2 million Chinese signatures that were requesting transparency, truth and free speech in China.
But where did this virus even come from? Amedia says it did not come from a marketplace as was previously thought. Instead, he believes it came from a P4 laboratory, which was located about 20 miles from the marketplace that was originally believed to be the starting point for the virus.
"These are high-level, bio-safety, viral laboratories," he says. "... This laboratory was established in a joint venture between the French government starting back in 2004 as a response to the SARS [virus] so that the Chinese government would have a research lab for humanitarian purposes and to develop vaccines."
But the French backed out of that joint venture a few years ago when they found out the Chinese had taken and replicated this laboratory, Amedia says, using it for privately owned businesses. Sen. Tom Cotton of Arkansas is speaking out about this, though some label his words a conspiracy theory. According to Amedia, the Chinese ambassador is not denying that it could have come out of this lab, which surprised the White House.
Will the public ever know what really caused the coronavirus? Will the full truth ever come out? We might never know, but God can still continue to move powerfully through this horrible situation. That's why Christians around the world must keep praying for this virus to be contained and eliminated. But we must also pray that in response to this frightening epidemic, people will keep flocking to Jesus Christ and create a revival in China.
Be sure to listen to my full interview with Amedia to hear the many more details he shares about this coronavirus.
Published3 days ago
AuthorStephen Strang
Posted inThe Strang Report
Charisma Magazine
The official site of Charisma magazine provides news, analysis, prophetic commentary and teachings for charismatic and Pentecostal Christians.
www.charismamag.com
Reports of Supernatural Healing, Revivals in Midst of Coronavirus Outbreak
Whenever you turn on the news, you're bound to hear something about the coronavirus right now. Some say it's not as big a deal as it's made out to be, while others are sounding the alarm that it's even worse than is being reported. But what the media isn't telling you is how the coronavirus is affecting the church—and how God is moving in mighty ways even through the outbreak.
As dangerous as this virus is, it's no match for the power of the Holy Spirit. Recently, I interviewed Dennis Balcombe, a missionary to China for the past 40 years. He shared some incredible insights into what God is doing through His people, including the sick coming for healing and people running to churches for hope.
I also recently had an eye-opening interview with Pastor Frank Amedia, whose ministry, POTUS Shield, has a close alliance with the Christian community in China. Amedia's sources, whom he believes are reliable, can confirm Bolcombe's report. Amedia has been on my Strang Reportpodcast many times, offering prophetic and spiritual insight into our culture. This time, he sheds light on what God is doing in the midst of the coronavirus outbreak.
"We've had reports of Christians being healed of this virus by the power of God and the healing of God," he says. "My sources tell me the same thing, whenever there is this kind of a problem—like there was with SARS."
Amedia says the coronavirus is the third plague to hit China in the span of this generation. He points out that when the people can't rely on their government, they look for help elsewhere—and that's when the church has the opportunity to shine brightly with the gospel.
"We're being told that people are coming in swarms to churches, house churches, that there's gospel and evangelism going out in the streets, person to person, that there's supernatural healing."
In our interview, Amedia also shared some other shocking things about the coronavirus that the media isn't reporting. As of right now, the virus has reportedly killed more than 1,700 people and infected over 71,000. But Amedia doesn't believe those numbers are true. According to Amedia's sources, the numbers of deaths and infections are much higher than media outlets are portraying. In fact, he says the number of deaths is allegedly in the tens of thousands.
"What we're hearing is that while this was being kept suppressed by the government of China, people were dying in Wuhan, which is the capital of the Hubei province in the central area of the industrial area of China," Amedia says.
"... We are told that people were dying before it was even admitted. The hospitals didn't know what to do with them. They told them to return home, to stay in their homes, and they were dying. And most of the widespread stories we're getting is that many of them were cremated quickly—some cremated and not even identified for their families, who are still looking for people. They just didn't deal with it appropriately."
Neither is the virus restricted to Wuhan, as some may report, Amedia says. Instead, it's spread to the four corners of China, and there are actually quarantines in many areas. Amedia says this isn't just something his Christian sources are telling him, but also his industrial sources such as businessmen.
The doctor who discovered the virus, who Amedia says was a Christian, brought his concerns about the coronavirus to the attention of the government in late December. In response, the government arrested him and seven other scientists and forced them to sign documents stating that they were wrong. That doctor has since died from the virus.
Now, though, Amedia says there is record of over 2 million Chinese signatures that were requesting transparency, truth and free speech in China.
But where did this virus even come from? Amedia says it did not come from a marketplace as was previously thought. Instead, he believes it came from a P4 laboratory, which was located about 20 miles from the marketplace that was originally believed to be the starting point for the virus.
"These are high-level, bio-safety, viral laboratories," he says. "... This laboratory was established in a joint venture between the French government starting back in 2004 as a response to the SARS [virus] so that the Chinese government would have a research lab for humanitarian purposes and to develop vaccines."
But the French backed out of that joint venture a few years ago when they found out the Chinese had taken and replicated this laboratory, Amedia says, using it for privately owned businesses. Sen. Tom Cotton of Arkansas is speaking out about this, though some label his words a conspiracy theory. According to Amedia, the Chinese ambassador is not denying that it could have come out of this lab, which surprised the White House.
Will the public ever know what really caused the coronavirus? Will the full truth ever come out? We might never know, but God can still continue to move powerfully through this horrible situation. That's why Christians around the world must keep praying for this virus to be contained and eliminated. But we must also pray that in response to this frightening epidemic, people will keep flocking to Jesus Christ and create a revival in China.
Be sure to listen to my full interview with Amedia to hear the many more details he shares about this coronavirus.
10 Very Important Questions That The Mainstream Media Should Be Asking About This Coronavirus Outbreak
February 18, 2020 by Michael Snyder
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Why is the mainstream media so scared of asking difficult questions about this coronavirus outbreak? At one time the United States had the greatest investigative journalists in the entire world, but today it is very rare to see any of our major news outlets go much beyond the basic facts of a story. In particular, the coverage of this coronavirus outbreak has been absolutely abysmal. Other than dutifully repeating the basic information being fed to them by the CDC and the Chinese government, mainstream media coverage of this crisis has amounted to little more than assuring everyone that everything is going to be just fine. As a result, Americans are increasingly turning to independent journalists for some honest coverage of this outbreak, because they know that they aren’t getting the whole truth from the usual suspects.
There is still so much we don’t know about this virus, and very few of our “journalists” are willing to dig deeper to find the answers we need.
The public is hungry for information, and getting to the truth starts with asking the right questions. The following are 10 very important questions that the mainstream media should be asking about this very alarming coronavirus outbreak…
#1 The Washington State Department of Health has announced that 746 peopleare currently being “monitored” for coronavirus symptoms. Are all 746 being quarantined, or are they being allowed to mix with the general public? According to the agency’s official website, it is unclear what “monitoring their health” actually entails…
#2 In Hawaii, a local resident named John Fukiwara recently had very close contact with a Japanese man that later was confirmed to be infected by the coronavirus. After contacting health officials, why was Fukiwara told to “go about his normal day-to-day routine”?…
#7 On the flip side, why are so few children being infected by this virus?…
I’ll answer that one.
If the number of confirmed cases outside of China doubles every week, there will be a million cases just 10 weeks from now.
And once there are a million people with coronavirus walking around all over the planet, nobody is going to be able to “contain” it.
So let us hope that the measures that authorities are currently taking to control the spread of this disease will work.
President Trump believes that this outbreak will start to fizzle when warmer weather arrives, and I truly hope that he is correct.
Because right now this outbreak is getting worse with each passing day, and we definitely aren’t getting good information about this crisis from the mainstream media.
February 18, 2020 by Michael Snyder
FacebookTwitterSubscribe
Why is the mainstream media so scared of asking difficult questions about this coronavirus outbreak? At one time the United States had the greatest investigative journalists in the entire world, but today it is very rare to see any of our major news outlets go much beyond the basic facts of a story. In particular, the coverage of this coronavirus outbreak has been absolutely abysmal. Other than dutifully repeating the basic information being fed to them by the CDC and the Chinese government, mainstream media coverage of this crisis has amounted to little more than assuring everyone that everything is going to be just fine. As a result, Americans are increasingly turning to independent journalists for some honest coverage of this outbreak, because they know that they aren’t getting the whole truth from the usual suspects.There is still so much we don’t know about this virus, and very few of our “journalists” are willing to dig deeper to find the answers we need.
The public is hungry for information, and getting to the truth starts with asking the right questions. The following are 10 very important questions that the mainstream media should be asking about this very alarming coronavirus outbreak…
#1 The Washington State Department of Health has announced that 746 peopleare currently being “monitored” for coronavirus symptoms. Are all 746 being quarantined, or are they being allowed to mix with the general public? According to the agency’s official website, it is unclear what “monitoring their health” actually entails…
#2 In Hawaii, a local resident named John Fukiwara recently had very close contact with a Japanese man that later was confirmed to be infected by the coronavirus. After contacting health officials, why was Fukiwara told to “go about his normal day-to-day routine”?…
#3 If this coronavirus outbreak “isn’t that serious”, then why has everyone in Hubei province now been ordered to stay at home until further notice?
#4 If this coronavirus outbreak “isn’t that serious”, then why did Russia just ban all Chinese citizens from entering the country?…
#5 Chinese officials have just released data which show that this virus “could be 20 times more lethal than the flu”. Why does hardly anyone in the western world know about this?…
#6 Why is this virus killing 15 percent of all victims that are over the age of 80?…
#7 On the flip side, why are so few children being infected by this virus?…
#8 What is this coronavirus outbreak going to mean for the entire global economy? This is something that I have written about repeatedly in recent days, but the mainstream media in the western world continues to insist that this crisis will just be a small bump in the road. Meanwhile, over in India there are warnings that there could be “massive disruptions” and “shortages” if this crisis doesn’t end soon…
#9 Why did the coronavirus continue to spread like wildfire aboard the Diamond Princess cruise ship even after a quarantine was initiated?…
#10 The number of confirmed cases outside of China has doubled in less than a week. If the number of cases continues to double every week, how bad will this crisis eventually become?
I’ll answer that one.
If the number of confirmed cases outside of China doubles every week, there will be a million cases just 10 weeks from now.
And once there are a million people with coronavirus walking around all over the planet, nobody is going to be able to “contain” it.
So let us hope that the measures that authorities are currently taking to control the spread of this disease will work.
President Trump believes that this outbreak will start to fizzle when warmer weather arrives, and I truly hope that he is correct.
Because right now this outbreak is getting worse with each passing day, and we definitely aren’t getting good information about this crisis from the mainstream media.
Haybails
When In Doubt, Throttle Out!
My mother is a farm girl born from parents who lived through the depression. 'Save Everything - Reuse if possible' is a way of life! LOL
In my opinion, that's why almost every American household has the proverbial "junk drawer" somewhere in the house (kitchen, garage, where ever) . . .
HB
bw
Fringe Ranger
It's all they have to fall back on.
Repairman-Jack
Veteran Member
Oh no she got my brain
, they ruled Flu, but since test came back not as A/B I wouldn't get counted in STATS and with the inconclusiveness of the radiologists comments on the xray she also treated for pneumonia with 500MG of Azithromycin and 125MG of Amoxicllin#9 Why did the coronavirus continue to spread like wildfire aboard the Diamond Princess cruise ship even after a quarantine was initiated?…
Because that is how quarantine works.
That is why everyone runs when someone says quarantine. Quarantine is not a process for healing.
Because that is how quarantine works.
That is why everyone runs when someone says quarantine. Quarantine is not a process for healing.
Martinhouse
Deceased
Seeker22, I've found the best plant ties for the garden are the knit-fabric strips from those cheap multicolored rag rugs. The threads that run from side to side start rotting and the long strips can be separated and they are fat enough that they don't scar or crease the plants' stems.
Nowadays, a lot of those rugs have strips made of the cheap non-woven paper-type fabric. I don't use those, but the little rugs are still worth having even if there are only half as many usable strips in each one.
Nowadays, a lot of those rugs have strips made of the cheap non-woven paper-type fabric. I don't use those, but the little rugs are still worth having even if there are only half as many usable strips in each one.
20Gauge
TB Fanatic
I do agree that it is one of the problems with living simple.... no place to put STUFF.....
Esto Perpetua
Veteran Member
I'm starting to wonder if I should be saving empty bottles, jars, boxes,zipper bags....
20Gauge
TB Fanatic
That is correct.... it is another word for people selected to die....slowly.....
20Gauge
TB Fanatic
We do.....not a lot, but some...
In my opinion, that's why almost every American household has the proverbial "junk drawer" somewhere in the house (kitchen, garage, where ever) . . .
HB
OHHHHHHH how I wish it was just "a drawer".
right. and the way it was conducted, now everyone gets to die . . .slowly
bw
Fringe Ranger
I have a junk barn, does that qualify?
SouthernBreeze
Has No Life - Lives on TB
What a lot of people throw away in their trash are things that I see as valuable. I was raised to be very frugal, and it has served me well over the years. All jars that have resealing or screw down lids are kept, especially glass jelly jars, I reuse them over and over to put my own homemade jellies in. Old bath cloths are used as dish cloths, until they actually have holes in them. I save all those thick plastic jugs that nuts come in at Sam's. They make great storage containers for pastas, rice, and dry beans in my pantry, and they are stackable. Old sheets and towels are used for bedding in our cat house for our outdoor cats. I could go on and on. I look at everything as to whether it can be reused for other purposes, before throwing it out.
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Profit of Doom
Dismember
Costco has 27 gallon black and yellow “totes” from time to time around $8 or so. Snap-on lids and easy stacking. I’ve got four filled with food and stuff, two more waiting for the need.
vector7
Dot Collector
Samuel Adams
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Great! Now every time we quote 'Doc1' we have to follow TB2K board rules and state that 'Doc1' is involved in precious metal sales! LOL!!
(just kidding, of course)
HB
That’s a relief, really.
I thought after he posted that, we’d surely find him out behind the shed with two in the chest and one in the forehead......
Hubby's company has several dozen containers sitting all over China waiting to ship. Transportation to ports is one of the biggest problem they are facing even if they have product ready to go. Some stuff is going out via air freight but fewer planes mean fewer opportunities to ship via plane too. Only a few of their factories near the NK border are up and working at any capacity. In Tianjin at least, most people are staying home except to send one person out every couple of days for food. I am not sure if this is mandatory or just a good idea in their part.. The people over there have less info than we do and I can only imagine how they must feel not knowing. They keep asking for info as to what we know. One very nice guy in Hubei Provence who had been in a blocked off apartment but was keeping in touch via WeChat has gone silent. Hope he is ok.
