Knoxville's Joker
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I gave up on the rifle part. Now it is more pistol or pistol brace. However this does identify a potential design market.
…… looking for compact rifle
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Mark D
Now running for Emperor.
You're saying "Rifle," but you're describing "pistol."
Have you ever fired a 7.5" SBR before? Because that's the closest thing you're gonna (maybe) flirt with in the kind of dimensions you're playing with.
I would STRONGLY suggest a larger, purpose-built, burial vault. If you want a rifle, store a rifle - in something that will do it correctly.
(ETA: looks like we were typing at the same time)
What's your budget?
GammaRat
Veteran Member
That 300 Solo can be shot one handed.
It is threaded to mount a silencer.
300 Blackout is designed as a subsonic round, yet has the bullet weight to preserve inertia.
It can fit inside a .30 cal ammo box
It can mount a removable brace.
The brace
The silencer
Upper
Lower
Magazines
And ammo
can all fit in a single ammo box.
Imo, it's the only thing that will fit your requirements.
*UPDATE*
Since I have a 30 cal ammo box AND the Solo 300.. I decided to break it down and see if it fits...
It does not..
But I'm confident it would fit in a 50 cal ammo box.. (I just don't want to empty out my 50 cal ammo box)
It is threaded to mount a silencer.
300 Blackout is designed as a subsonic round, yet has the bullet weight to preserve inertia.
It can fit inside a .30 cal ammo box
It can mount a removable brace.
The brace
The silencer
Upper
Lower
Magazines
And ammo
can all fit in a single ammo box.
Imo, it's the only thing that will fit your requirements.
*UPDATE*
Since I have a 30 cal ammo box AND the Solo 300.. I decided to break it down and see if it fits...
It does not..
But I'm confident it would fit in a 50 cal ammo box.. (I just don't want to empty out my 50 cal ammo box)
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mechanic 217
I was told there would be cookies!
6 or 8 inch pvc drain pipe is still readily available, couple caps, one threaded on, some glue, cut to the size you need 18 inches?
KJ, have you thought of, considered a Henry Survival rifle? The one that stores everything in the stock and floats, or do you want something of a higher caliber than a .22LR which is what the Henry is?
Marthanoir
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Anybody making a HK53K clone
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Knoxville's Joker
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Too long. I looked at that first as I loved the design.
Mark D
Now running for Emperor.
BTW OP: have a look at the DBX-57. That ALMOST meets your original specs.
I shoot a fair bit of 5.7x28; it's not a death ray, but it's a genuinely useful cartridge. The FN 40gr V-Max loads perform well in Ballistic Gel (and several publicized shootings), and the FN 27gr machined copper loads will SCREAM out of an 8" barrel.
That would give you a functional, braced, firearm that provides viable terminal ballistics up close, and a 200-yard range (if needed) with the copper loads.
I shoot a fair bit of 5.7x28; it's not a death ray, but it's a genuinely useful cartridge. The FN 40gr V-Max loads perform well in Ballistic Gel (and several publicized shootings), and the FN 27gr machined copper loads will SCREAM out of an 8" barrel.
That would give you a functional, braced, firearm that provides viable terminal ballistics up close, and a 200-yard range (if needed) with the copper loads.
Knoxville's Joker
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No way to collapse and it ia 16 inches long...BTW OP: have a look at the DBX-57. That ALMOST meets your original specs.
I shoot a fair bit of 5.7x28; it's not a death ray, but it's a genuinely useful cartridge. The FN 40gr V-Max loads perform well in Ballistic Gel (and several publicized shootings), and the FN 27gr machined copper loads will SCREAM out of an 8" barrel.
That would give you a functional, braced, firearm that provides viable terminal ballistics up close, and a 200-yard range (if needed) with the copper loads.
Does space allow for modifying the can,?
MIG a piece of pipe in one end to tuck the muzzle into.
MIG a piece of pipe in one end to tuck the muzzle into.
Knoxville's Joker
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Not without issues later.
bw
Fringe Ranger
You haven't been very specific, other than size of the box. More info might help.
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Warthog
Black Out
Penetrates a lot of soft body armor too! Depending what type of ammo you're using.BTW OP: have a look at the DBX-57. That ALMOST meets your original specs.
I shoot a fair bit of 5.7x28; it's not a death ray, but it's a genuinely useful cartridge. The FN 40gr V-Max loads perform well in Ballistic Gel (and several publicized shootings), and the FN 27gr machined copper loads will SCREAM out of an 8" barrel.
That would give you a functional, braced, firearm that provides viable terminal ballistics up close, and a 200-yard range (if needed) with the copper loads.
bw
Fringe Ranger
I think we get the packing requirement. The missing info is what you're prepping for.
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Griz3752
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There's a few of us here . . . .You're being difficult.
bobfall2005
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Rifles have 16in barrels.
If 10 is your limit, sbr or pistol
L.A.B.
Goodness before greatness.
Some meandering thoughts, looking for feedback.
A 3.5” (minute) red dot on the pistol.
The AIMPOINT ACRO P-2 can be slide cut (machined) for co-witnessing with suppressor style (higher) sights.
If your looking for the best utility in a defensive weapon, you cannot accomplish that job by being slower acquiring the COM than the rifle that is about to gun you down.
Your gonna need to run a 3.5” minute red-dot BAC reflex sight in order to quickly go beyond your average / COM extended range iron sight hand gun shots.
ACRO® P-2 - Red Dot Reflex Sight
The Aimpoint® Acro P-2 is the next generation of the ACRO™ series of sights – Aimpoint’s family of optics dedicated to stand up to the extreme abuse of a semi-automatic pistol slide. It features an enclosed optical channel/emitter, keeping the sight fully protected from the elements.
aimpoint.us
If the pitch of helicopter blades on the video didn’t sell you on The ACRO P-2, maybe the dogs barking in the background, or the snap shot through the vehicle glass will LOL!
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Knoxville's Joker
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Where it is going to be stored is what drives the size constraint
Knoxville's Joker
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I have specific space requirements
Marthanoir
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Remington 700 CP and hex key to separate the barrelled action from the chassis.
BadMedicine
Would *I* Lie???
I see you've gotten many fine ideas to choose from, Just a couple other options to ponder:
Are you against multiple guns? The Keltec sub2000 comes in different calibers, and can also get a pistol that takes the same magazines/ ammo for ease.
Smaller, larker caliber raffle or pistol rounds in a PISTOL with a scope. Pistols are notoriously inaccurate at longer ranges, but the hard truth is, only about 1% of shooters can even SHOOT as accurate as their pistol. in a brace or with a scope you can get damn fine groupings at 100 with any modern ammo.
With multiple guns you could go with a cheaper semi-auto .22 for the rifle, also usually lighter and smaller, or folding/ breakdowns, 10/22, papoose, ar-22.... and then a larger caliber pistol for coup-de-grace and heavy close work- and less ammo needed stored.
Are you against multiple guns? The Keltec sub2000 comes in different calibers, and can also get a pistol that takes the same magazines/ ammo for ease.
Smaller, larker caliber raffle or pistol rounds in a PISTOL with a scope. Pistols are notoriously inaccurate at longer ranges, but the hard truth is, only about 1% of shooters can even SHOOT as accurate as their pistol. in a brace or with a scope you can get damn fine groupings at 100 with any modern ammo.
With multiple guns you could go with a cheaper semi-auto .22 for the rifle, also usually lighter and smaller, or folding/ breakdowns, 10/22, papoose, ar-22.... and then a larger caliber pistol for coup-de-grace and heavy close work- and less ammo needed stored.
day late
money? whats that?
Lot of truth here, in spite of the misspellings.
I've shot a box used to hold business cards, about 4" X 6", to pieces with a 9mm with a 4" barrel at around 26 or 27 yards. The last line on the range was 25 yards. I set the box on the berm behind it.
That’s called the Enforcer. I had one in my early 20’s. It was fun to shoot.