…… looking for compact rifle

Knoxville's Joker

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I am trying to see if I can find a rifle or brace that can fit in a 30 calibur ammo can. Part of a long term storage type deal.
 

Thinwater

Firearms Manufacturer
You could disassemble an AR15 9mm with 4" barrel to fit in an ammo can or 8.5" 5.56 AR15. If .22 is enough a Ruger Charger and folding stick may fit.
 

ShadowMan

Designated Grumpy Old Fart
Consider a larger ammo can. There's not much you can cram into an ammo can that small.
 

Knoxville's Joker

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You could disassemble an AR15 9mm with 4" barrel to fit in an ammo can or 8.5" 5.56 AR15. If .22 is enough a Ruger Charger and folding stick may fit.
The charger is too long. Not finding anything good on the ar front that does not cost an arm and a leg. I am looking at cheap here... Mainly if it fails I won't faint from replacement costs...
 

Millwright

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1911user

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Glock model 20 pistol (10mm caliber) with a 3-4moa carry pistol red dot sight (holosun, etc.) for precise aiming at a distance. A replacement 6" barrel would boost the 10mm velocity and reduce recoil. This with a carry holster, mag carriers, extra loaded mags, and possibly a compact rail-mounted light should fit into a 30 cal ammo can.
 
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Grumphau

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Glock model 20 pistol (10mm caliber) with a 3-4moa carry pistol red dot sight (holosun, etc.) for precise aiming at a distance. A replacement 6" barrel would boost the 10mm velocity and reduce recoil. This with a carry holster, mag carriers, extra loaded mags, and possibly a compact rail-mounted light should fit into a 30 cal ammo can.
Or a LEO trade in G21 for a budget option
 

Knoxville's Joker

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Or a LEO trade in G21 for a budget option
and a g21 with a 6 inch barrel could have similar performance just not as much fps as the g20 though. Much more common and cheaper. The G20 is an everything pistol to be sure.
 

1911user

Veteran Member
If you are concerned with distance (100+ yards) using a compact firearm, this is a good ballistics calculator that will give bullet drop, drift, and energy calculations to compare. It has preloaded data for many common rifle and pistol bullets. You choose a reasonable velocity and how you would like the output data formatted.

JBM - Calculations - Trajectory
 
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Publius

TB Fanatic
Maybe a Remington XP-100 or one of the Thomson Center Contenders and even then overall length will likely be to long.
Fitting a custom brace it can be done.
 
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Thinwater

Firearms Manufacturer
The charger is too long. Not finding anything good on the ar front that does not cost an arm and a leg. I am looking at cheap here... Mainly if it fails I won't faint from replacement costs...
When I say disassemble, I mean disassemble, not just desperate the two halves. You could leave the lower parts kits installed, leave the flash suppresor on and could reassemble with just a large pair of plyers to tighten the barren nut and castle nut and maybe an Allen wrench for the handguard.
 

Doc1

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and a g21 with a 6 inch barrel could have similar performance just not as much fps as the g20 though. Much more common and cheaper. The G20 is an everything pistol to be sure.

Get a G21 and buy an aftermarket 10mm barrel. Throw in a few G20 mags and you now have a pistol that can fire three different cartridges: .45 acp, 10mm and .40 S&W. When firing the .40 S&W the case will headspace on the extractor, but this seems to cause no problems. I own a rig as described above and while it's mostly a safe queen, it is kinda' cool to have one pistol that'll fire three different rounds.

One might consider that if we ever get into a scrounging/trading scenario post-SHTF, both .45 acp and .40 S&W are very popular rounds which should be reasonably easy to find. 10mm? Not so much so, but two out of three ain't bad.

Best
Doc
 

day late

money? whats that?
If you ask me, I have to ask you. What is the intended purpose of the weapon? THAT defines what you need. Is it for hunting, combat, self-defense, survival, plinking on the weekend? If you have the money, you can get a weapon for each of these and more. Hiding them from government searches will be problematic at best. Focus on what you need, then figure out the best place and how to keep it hidden, yet close at hand in case of immediate need.
 

zealotbat

Senior Member
If you are going to bury........past experience that went well (dug up and checked) is to get extra heavy garbage/Yard trash bags and gorilla tape. Wrap-tape - wrap - tape and repeat.

Walmart coolers work well also...less temperature transfer.

Also, if it is going to be down there for a good long while.....get small gravel and put a small amount on bottom...and most on the sides. Easier to retrieve from the ground after all those years of ground settling.
 
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