EBOLA Frisco, TX Possible Ebola Patient #2 - At Presby Dallas - Test Negative - 10/9/2014

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We have one "negative". Will we have two? Or will he be on his way to interact with the public at large?

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/10/u...html?partner=rss&emc=rss&smid=tw-nytimes&_r=0

Dallas Sheriff’s Official Tests Negative for Ebola
By MANNY FERNANDEZ, DAVE PHILIPPS and TIMOTHY WILLIAMSOCT. 9, 2014

DALLAS — A sheriff’s sergeant who was hospitalized here out of concern that he might have been exposed to the Ebola virus has not been infected, a Texas health agency said Thursday.

The Texas Department of State Health Services said in a statement that the test on the sergeant, Michael W. Monnig, had come back negative for the virus.

Sergeant Monnig was taken to the hospital Wednesday after going to an urgent-care center outside Dallas with stomach pain. He told health care workers there that he had been in the apartment where Thomas E. Duncan, the Liberian man who died of Ebola on Wednesday, had been staying.

None of the 48 other people who are being monitored for the disease after having had some contact with Mr. Duncan has shown any sign of the disease, officials said.

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“Enhanced screening will initially be implemented at London’s Heathrow and Gatwick airports and Eurostar terminals,” Prime Minister David Cameron’s office said in a statement, referring to London’s international rail link with continental Europe.

The United States on Wednesday said it would begin requiring temperature checks at five major American airports for people arriving from the three West African countries hardest hit by the deadly Ebola virus — Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone.

The measures will go into effect on Saturday at Kennedy International Airport in New York, which receives about 43 percent of the people who fly to the United States from the three nations.

Screenings will begin next week at Washington Dulles International, which gets 22 percent of such travelers, and at Newark Liberty International, O’Hare International in Chicago and Hartsfield-Jackson International in Atlanta.

After a passport check, airport workers will lead travelers to a special area and point a thermometer at their foreheads. The workers will also ask questions. Travelers with a fever will be taken to a quarantine area in the airports and be evaluated by an official from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. It will be up to local health departments whether to place them in quarantine.

The death of Mr. Duncan, 42, at the center of a widening public health concern, renewed questions about whether a delay in receiving treatment could have played a role in his death. Mr. Duncan went to a hospital’s emergency room on Sept. 25, but was not admitted. He returned three days later after his condition worsened.

“I trust a thorough examination will take place regarding all aspects of his care,” Louise Troh, Mr. Duncan’s fiancée, said in a statement Wednesday.

A spokeswoman for the Texas Department of State Health Services said Wednesday that officials there were considering investigating the delay in treating Mr. Duncan for Ebola, including the hospital’s compliance with state health and safety laws and regulations. But she added that the agency’s “top focus right now is the contact investigation and monitoring.”

Dr. Thomas R. Frieden, director of the C.D.C., told reporters Wednesday that although Ebola is fatal in a high proportion of patients, it is important for the disease to be diagnosed early.

“The earlier someone is diagnosed, the more likely they will be to survive,” Dr. Frieden said.

He declined to speculate on whether the delay had contributed to Mr. Duncan’s death. But agency officials have said generally that basic interventions — including intravenous fluids and electrolytes, and maintaining blood pressure — can significantly improve Ebola patients’ chances of survival.
 

Hfcomms

EN66iq
If it's true that the deputy is negative it's great news but I hope they detain him for a few more days and follow up with a second test before he is released. With the false negatives I think that is the prudent thing to do. And I want to see the guy in uniform with a time stamp on the picture or show him walking out of the hospital with multiple cameras to prove it. Unfortunately it's to the point where you have to show me before I believe anything coming through official channels. I wish that wasn't the case.
 

Reborn

Seeking Aslan's Country
I for one am very happy it came back negative. If it was positive then I would have been very concerned because he was not in the house with an actively infected person. I hoped that it was something else that caused his symptoms.... Hope it stays negative

I'm always thankful to read that someone has tested negative. Like you, I hope he stays negative.
 

Shacknasty Shagrat

Has No Life - Lives on TB
are those 3 of the ebola dwarfs?
To recap, we have Tired, Nuts, Grouchy and Giggles to date.
These do seem to start to characterize some of the later posts coming out. I hope we can have mutual respect with others that we disagree with and be mild in our corrections of others lest we sometime may be in need of correction ourselves.
In my opinion, there is no way to do a responsible assessment of a patient in a non trauma situation in 36 minutes. I realize protocols and training can widely differ and sometime in START situations there is a lot of ramming and jamming and clean up, catch up later.
A drive by medical assessment may well cause more problems than it prevents.
SS
 

maric

Short but deadly
If it's true that the deputy is negative it's great news but I hope they detain him for a few more days and follow up with a second test before he is released. With the false negatives I think that is the prudent thing to do. And I want to see the guy in uniform with a time stamp on the picture or show him walking out of the hospital with multiple cameras to prove it. Unfortunately it's to the point where you have to show me before I believe anything coming through official channels. I wish that wasn't the case.

^^^^^^^^^^
THIS

After hearing the CDC spew garbage and seeing TPTB trip over their lies and fail to close the borders along with EVERYTHING they touch turning to sh^t, I'm sorry but I'll believe it when I see it now.
 

SusieSunshine

Veteran Member
Ailing Texas deputy doesn't have Ebola


A Texas sheriff's deputy who became ill after briefly being in the apartment of the nation's only Ebola fatality does not have the deadly virus, a state health official said.

Dallas County Sgt. Michael Monnig was transferred from a Frisco clinic to Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital on Wednesday amid fears he had the Ebola virus. Conclusive test results became available late Thursday.

http://www.kens5.com/story/news/201...igns-of-ebola-in-dallas-area-deputy/16980695/

(The rest of the article is a recap.)
 

Ben Sunday

Deceased
I'm always thankful to read that someone has tested negative. Like you, I hope he stays negative.

Looking at the dates, I would say the Deputy was on the fringe of the incubation period +/- a few ...15 days.

A gentle reminder (again) that there are any number of acute illnesses with similar symptoms - Flu, Typhoid, Malaria (especially in folks directly from Africa) and likely others unnamed or not considered yet.

Every individual with similar symptoms is not automatically Ebola.

I fully agree with Reborn's comments quoted here.
 

Be Well

may all be well
Ailing Texas deputy doesn't have Ebola


A Texas sheriff's deputy who became ill after briefly being in the apartment of the nation's only Ebola fatality does not have the deadly virus, a state health official said.

Dallas County Sgt. Michael Monnig was transferred from a Frisco clinic to Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital on Wednesday amid fears he had the Ebola virus. Conclusive test results became available late Thursday.

http://www.kens5.com/story/news/201...igns-of-ebola-in-dallas-area-deputy/16980695/

(The rest of the article is a recap.)

Hey, how about testing him in two or three days if he still feels sick, just for the heckuvit.
 

Dex

Constitutional Patriot
I've gotten to the point that I simply don't believe ANYTHING they are telling us. What about the other deputies that started filling ill? Did they all just coincidentally catch the flu? Too much silence about important factors. What about the family members? Louise's press communications sound a little too eloquent, somebody else is writing them for her.

They will probably continue to suppress the truth until after the elections...or they will fan the flames to get it spread even more and attempt to either postpone the elections or rig them making people too afraid to got out an vote.

Everything they say is a lie anymore. I've never mistrusted a WH administration as much as I do now. I don't think we've ever seen a more dishonest and malicious administration in American history.
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
Kris, the CDC didn't hesitate for one second to trot out the other family members for a full dog and pony show. They met with Jesse Jackson, and have been widely seen. The fact the others, who were directly exposed to Mr. Duncan, have vanished down 1984's memory hole is telling.

You are correct that the CDC is going to have to physically produce the five family members in the next week to ten days. If they do not, then the real questions will start.

We have had many negative test results that later on turned positive. I am glad the first test came back negative, but I will wait another few days before I break out the bubbly.

The CDC is certainly acting like they are hiding the family in my opinion.

I am learning patience in the sense that I do not think we will know the true status of the family for a few more days. Still, given the exact same scenario of one infected person exposing and infecting people in West Africa as happened with Mr. Duncan in the apartment, I will again say: what is different in Dallas than in the thousands of cases in West Africa?

The CDC should have those people on the video camera right now if they are not infected. At least that would stop a lot of the criticism of the CDC. If they are not sick, Kris then why not show them in public?
 

Kris Gandillon

The Other Curmudgeon
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Kris, the CDC didn't hesitate for one second to trot out the other family members for a full dog and pony show. They met with Jesse Jackson, and have been widely seen.

Doug, as we discussed previously, the "family members" that Jesse Jackson met with had just arrived from North Carolina and had NOT been in direct contact with Duncan or any of the other already quarantined "direct contact" family members. None of the "direct contact" quarantined family members met with Jackson.
 

Sasquatch

Veteran Member
I'll tackle the abstract at http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1997182

Abstract
The potential of aerogenic infection by Ebola virus was established by using a head-only exposure aerosol system. 1Virus-containing droplets of 0.8-1.2 microns were generated and administered into the respiratory tract of rhesus monkeys via inhalation. Inhalation of 2viral doses as low as 400 plaque-forming units of virus caused a rapidly fatal disease in 4-5 days. 3The illness was clinically identical to that reported for parenteral virus inoculation, except for the occurrence of subcutaneous and venipuncture site bleeding and serosanguineous nasal discharge. 4Immunocytochemistry revealed cell-associated Ebola virus antigens present in airway epithelium, alveolar pneumocytes, and macrophages in the lung and pulmonary lymph nodes; extracellular antigen was present on mucosal surfaces of the nose, oropharynx and airways. Aggregates of characteristic filamentous virus were present within type I pneumocytes, macrophages, and air spaces of the lung by electron microscopy. 5Demonstration of fatal aerosol transmission of this virus in monkeys reinforces the importance of taking appropriate precautions to prevent its potential aerosol transmission to humans.

1 virus-containing particles a little larger than the largest particle of corn starch(for comparison: a red blood cell is 3 microns. A particle of corn starch is 0.1-0.8 microns) were inhaled by monkeys.

2 Viral doses as low as 400 plaque-forming units (Theoretically, the plaque-forming unit includes only the infectious virus particles since a virus particle failing to infect a host cell will not be able to produce a plaque, hence, will not be counted.) caused diseas ending in DEATH in 4-5 days.

3 The illness and effect produced via respiratory inhalation of virii was not different than if you had given the virus via injection (or an accidental needle stick) except that needle administration produced bleeding under the skin, at the needle stick site, and bleeding from the nose.

4 Intracellular (within the cells) antigens (any substance capable of inducing a specific immune response and of reacting with the products of that response) were found in the cells of tissue lining of the airway, in 2 specific white blood cells in the lungs, and within lung-associated lymphnodes. Antigens outside of cells were found in the mucosal surfaces of the nose and in the throat, mouth, and airways of the monkeys. CLUMPS of virus were found in the certain white blood cells and air spaces in the lungs

5 If it did this shit in monkeys you better be prepared for it to act the same way in people.

Hope this helps and did not muddy the waters.

BBL, Thank you very much for putting the info into laymen terms and especially the analogies so I/we can put it into context.
 

bw

Fringe Ranger
None of the "direct contact" quarantined family members met with Jackson.

Yes, and that's the sticking point. If they show them with Jackson it's breaking quarantine. If they don't, they're hiding them. It will take a few days for this to play out.

Everyone should take a breath and find something else to occupy their time. Obsessing over pending stories does no good for anyone. Me, I'm working on a building project. Life goes on until it doesn't.
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
23 mins is quite a long time for a focused evaluation, which is what he would have received.
There are fast result standard labs available now so they would have most of the basic labs in that time, PLUS he was admitted for observation.

Considering that the clinic got basic labs and still sent him on, the time involved isn't outside the realm of good medicine.
 
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