CRIME Female Student in Critical Condition with Brain Injury After Being Beaten by Mob Near St. Louis High School - UPDATE, post 351

[Melodi]

Zeeker, you had a wonderful Mother; you were raised right and lucky. Indeed, having to grow up like that is not an automatic sentence that a young boy will turn out to be a criminal (or even socially dysfunctional), but a higher percentage of boys raised that way do have that outcome.

I wish I could find the study done years ago that got buried because the agencies or "experts" did not welcome the results in this field. It was a study of about twenty or so different "programs" designed to help "disadvantaged boys" in Urban Areas. They looked at everything from Scouting to Church groups. They found that the ONLY ones with a high percentage of boys that turned out well had one thing in common (and the ONLY thing in common in many cases):

There was a strong male figure who could work with the boys one-on-one (or nearly one-on-one) for a relatively long period.

That Man could be a Scout Leader, a Coach, a Pastor, a volunteer Big Brother, or in other combinations. However, programs that tried to use women or had so many boys per man that there wasn't time for individual mentoring showed no difference when compared to a control group of boys who got no interventions.

That doesn't mean that Mothers (or Mothers—substitutes) are not needed to raise a healthy boy (or girl), but in the particular role of what I will call "Civilizing," a young man (for lack of a better term) men (traditionally the father, the uncle, the grandfather or even the big brother) filled that role. In many traditional societies, men take over the care and training of boys between the ages of six and twelve.

There are always exceptions to any generality. I have single friends (sometimes through no fault of their own) who raised happy and outstanding young men and men who raised happy and well-adjusted daughters. However, in both cases, they usually tried to find trustworthy men or women (preferably with the family or close friendship circle) to provide what they could not.

Congratulations, Zeeker, for making it happen (and, of course, your Mom for making it happen) and confirming the whole "Man in the House" thing. I've met many people who don't believe this ever happened, but it was pretty standard "social care" in the 1940s up until the 1970s (and, in some places, the 1980s). For various reasons, it affected the urban African American community worse in the long term, but it wasn't helpful for anyone.

 

[Ragnarok]

St Louis news is still saying she's alive but in a coma.

Judging from that posturing she was doing, death might be the more merciful outcome.

 

[Bridey Rose]

"Too often, we set programs based on what honor roll students want and what honor roll students need. We got to be able to go deep into the bowels of our community," Clark added.

Way past time to disembowel those bowels!

 

[Ira]

If you think they are the same you are a fool and should be forced to live among them

I already do! my 2 of my kids are bi-racial. and guess what? they are not hoodlums. my best friend in town is black, and guess what? He is not a hoodlum. some of the VERY BEST people I know are BLACK. so stuff your racial shit back where it came from. your own ass. where are you from? have you ever traveled outside of the USA?

 

[Ira]

It's not about "melanin count." It's about all of the other components of their genetic code and related physical, psychological, and cultural make-up that causes them to act that way.

They are not us. They are a different human species. Two different species of the same mammal cannot occupy the same ecosystem without conflict over resources. That's why we need a velvet divorce from them. Or a not so velvet divorce if velvet doesn't work.

I am not prejudiced. I attended college with them, befriended them, and lived and worked with them. I may be racist for good reason, but I am not prejudging them without knowing them intimately.

yet you claim they are a different species? that is inherently prejudicial in itself. you literally just outed yourself as a hypocrite. we are ONE species with evolutionary differences due to the diverse climate our planet enjoys. period. any other thought or claim is detrimental. now cultural differences we can agree on. hell the propaganda used an these poor souls is abhorrent. you ARE prejudiced as long thinks its us and THEM. its just us. we have been divided and set against each other. ON PURPOSE. and everyone of YOU that plays the racial game plays into that. YOU ARE PLAYING THIER GAME. (the Thier= globalist elite.) stop looking at skin color and look at CHARACTER.

 

[Cowgirl4christ]

Yep but back then it was just Hazelwood. My friends and I were early shift and had to be at the busstop around 6:30 am. It was dark and cold in he winter and dress code dictated that girls had to wear dresses. So we did and wore pants underneath them. Of course we were getting back on the bus at 1:30 to come home.

I know the area the area this took place. I was once a Girl Scout and my troop leader had the meetings in her home on Criterion. Used to be all white and very nice houses.

I lived on New Halls Ferry (backyard facing the road) and those busses were going night and day. I was a weee little toddler. JK. I was about 10-12 years old.

 

[LightEcho]

I already do! my 2 of my kids are bi-racial. and guess what? they are not hoodlums. my best friend in town is black, and guess what? nhe is not a hoodlum. some of the VERY BEST people I know are BLACK. so stuff your racial shit back where it came from. your own ass. where are you from? have you ever traveled outside of the USA?

Ira- you are right. We cannot condemn all for the behavior of the many. If that were a righteous thing to do, we would all be condemned to hell. Better to not condemn but to focus surgically on the bad seed. The reality is that I can walk fairly safely in any white neighborhood in America, but most black neighborhoods are deadly dangerous. I have seen racial divides more savage with the black groups and experienced their group think. I have seen the lack of impulse control. I have seen the entitlement mentality. And I don't blame people for being cautious around known dangerous demographics.... that is just what intelligent people do.

And how I see the news media treat racial issues is pure programming of all to be anti-white. At what point should the South African farmers and whites begin to defend themselves? Oh, not the south african whites... they are already most wiped out, i.e. raped, pillaged & murdered. In America, we will soon see the "blessings" of diversity. Be intelligent or not... its all your choice.

 

[Ira]

On an individual basis you have a point, but in a group your opinion is dangerous. I have the same attitude about the Hells Angels. I might know one biker, but no way in ”hell” am I hanging out in a Hells Angels bar. We all have to be more realistically cautious these days, period.
We are all human beings sounds nice, but somehow I think old “General Barbecue” would disagree with you. I hear banjos playing and I’m on the move, same reason I don’t vacation with White People who vacation in Haiti -or ride the NYC subway.….

Griz3752, I don’t know who made the post either, but I know plenty of people that hold that sentiment….

its the opinion that went through the literal fires of hell (Combat). I don't see white black,,brown, yellow. Your all ****ing Green to me. also, i'm not saying avoid situational awareness, I would not go hang out in a Hells angels bar either. And ifm I step foot in Hati, im going fully loaded and ready for War, same the the NYC subways. CHARACTER TRUMPS SKIN COLOR EVERYTIME ALLDAY EVERDAY

 

[packyderms_wife]

I already do! my 2 of my kids are bi-racial. and guess what? they are not hoodlums. my best friend in town is black, and guess what? He is not a hoodlum. some of the VERY BEST people I know are BLACK. so stuff your racial shit back where it came from. your own ass. where are you from? have you ever traveled outside of the USA?

I'm half NA, and not a hoodlum! Culture really is everything.

 

[Bridey Rose]

Wake up and smell the coffee, Ira:

"In the U.S., Blacks are less than 13% of the population but have 50% of all arrests for assault and murder and 67% of all arrests for robbery. Fifty percent of all crime victims also report their assailants are Black, so the arrest statistics cannot be due to police bias.

Blacks make up a large share of those arrested for white-collar crimes. About 33% of persons arrested for fraud, forgery, counterfeiting, and receiving stolen property, and about 25% of those arrested for embezzlement are Black. Blacks are under-represented only in offenses, such as tax fraud and securities violations, that are committed by individuals in high status occupations.

On the other hand, Orientals are under-represented in U.S. crime statistics. This has led some to argue that the Asian "ghetto" has protected members from harmful outside influences. For Blacks, however, the ghetto is said to foster crime, so purely cultural explanations are not enough.

Female homicides tell the same story. In one study of female arrests, 75% were Black women. Only 13% were White women. No Asian women were arrested. The cultural explanation for the crime rate of Black men does not apply to Black women, who are not expected to engage in criminal behavior to the same extent. There is no "gangster" image among Black females.

The same pattern is found in other countries. In London, England, Blacks make up 13% of the population, but account for 50% of the crime rate. A 1996 government commission in Ontario, Canada, reported that Blacks were five times more likely go to jail than Whites, and 10 times more likely than Orientals. In Brazil, there are 1.5 million Orientals, mostly Japanese whose ancestors went there as laborers in the 19th century, and who are the least represented in crime."

from page 14 in Race, Evolution and Behavior: A Life History Perspective by Prof. J. Philippe Rushon

 

[Ira]

Ira- you are right. We cannot condemn all for the behavior of the many. If that were a righteous thing to do, we would all be condemned to hell. Better to not condemn but to focus surgically on the bad seed. The reality is that I can walk fairly safely in any white neighborhood in America, but most black neighborhoods are deadly dangerous. I have seen racial divides more savage with the black groups and experienced their group think. I have seen the lack of impulse control. I have seen the entitlement mentality. And I don't blame people for being cautious around known dangerous demographics.... that is just what intelligent people do.

And how I see the news media treat racial issues is pure programming of all to be anti-white. At what point should the South African farmers and whites begin to defend themselves? Oh, not the south african whites... they are already most wiped out, i.e. raped, pillaged & murdered. In America, we will soon see the "blessings" of diversity. Be intelligent or not... its all your choice.

again not a skin color problem, its a character problem. they were raised to be feral, and they had to be in order to survive. should we really have not expected this? i'm in a mostly black and brown neighborhood and its quiet as ****. the only shots you hear are from the local gun range and out in the desert. it all boils down to one thing and only one thing CHARACTER.

 

[Ira]

Wake up and smell the coffee, Ira:

"In the U.S., Blacks are less than 13% of the population but have 50% of all arrests for assault and murder and 67% of all arrests for robbery. Fifty percent of all crime victims also report their assailants are Black, so the arrest statistics cannot be due to police bias.

Blacks make up a large share of those arrested for white-collar crimes. About 33% of persons arrested for fraud, forgery, counterfeiting, and receiving stolen property, and about 25% of those arrested for embezzlement are Black. Blacks are under-represented only in offenses, such as tax fraud and securities violations, that are committed by individuals in high status occupations.

On the other hand, Orientals are under-represented in U.S. crime statistics. This has led some to argue that the Asian "ghetto" has protected members from harmful outside influences. For Blacks, however, the ghetto is said to foster crime, so purely cultural explanations are not enough.

Female homicides tell the same story. In one study of female arrests, 75% were Black women. Only 13% were White women. No Asian women were arrested. The cultural explanation for the crime rate of Black men does not apply to Black women, who are not expected to engage in criminal behavior to the same extent. There is no "gangster" image among Black females.

The same pattern is found in other countries. In London, England, Blacks make up 13% of the population, but account for 50% of the crime rate. A 1996 government commission in Ontario, Canada, reported that Blacks were five times more likely go to jail than Whites, and 10 times more likely than Orientals. In Brazil, there are 1.5 million Orientals, mostly Japanese whose ancestors went there as laborers in the 19th century, and who are the least represented in crime."

from page 14 in Race, Evolution and Behavior: A Life History Perspective by Prof. J. Philippe Rushon

wake up and smell your own shit rose, cause it stinks. skin color has NEVER been the main issue, its only pushed to make it that way. its all about character. everytime you come back and try to defend your point of view only cements mine more and more. do yourself a favor and go reflect on that. SKIN COLOR IS NOTHING MORE THAN A NARRATIVE DRIVEN WEDGE AND YOU ARE PLAYING RIGHT INTO IT. DO BETTER

 

[packyderms_wife]

wake up and smell your own shit rose, cause it stinks. skin color has NEVER been the main issue, its only pushed to make it that way. its all about character.

It's pushed because the demoncrats need slaves, they always have and they always will! If there were zero black people in the US the demoncrats would find another group of people to focus on to crush into slavery.

 

[Ira]

It's pushed because the demoncrats need slaves, they always have and they always will! If there were zero black people in the US the demoncrats would find another group of people to focus on to crush into slavery.

EXACTLY 100%

 

[Bax333]

I already do! my 2 of my kids are bi-racial. and guess what? they are not hoodlums. my best friend in town is black, and guess what? He is not a hoodlum. some of the VERY BEST people I know are BLACK. so stuff your racial shit back where it came from. your own ass. where are you from? have you ever traveled outside of the USA?

I already do! my 2 of my kids are bi-racial. and guess what? they are not hoodlums. my best friend in town is black, and guess what? He is not a hoodlum. some of the VERY BEST people I know are BLACK. so stuff your racial shit back where it came from. your own ass. where are you from? have you ever traveled outside of the USA?

I already do! my 2 of my kids are bi-racial. and guess what? they are not hoodlums. my best friend in town is black, and guess what? He is not a hoodlum. some of the VERY BEST people I know are BLACK. so stuff your racial shit back where it came from. your own ass. where are you from? have you ever traveled outside of the USA?

i should have guessed with your name. I hope you enjoy your multiculturalism when the country collapses.

 

[Bridey Rose]

"Racial differences in personality and obeying rules also show up in divorce rates, out of wedlock births, child abuse, and delinquency. Orientals are more successful than Whites or Blacks. They have fewer divorces, fewer out of wedlock births, and less child abuse than Whites.

On the other hand, Black family stability is a concern. In 1965 the Moynihan Report showed the higher rates of marital breakup, female headed families, and out of wedlock births among Blacks. Since then the figures have tripled! About 75% of births to Black teenagers are out of wedlock, compared with 25% of White teenagers.

The female-headed family is not unique to the U.S. Nor is it the result of the legacy of slavery or inner city decay. It is found in large areas of Black Africa.

In Africa, the female-headed family is part of an overall social pattern. It consists of early sexual activity, loose emotional ties between spouses and sexual union and the procreation of children with many partners. It includes fostering children away from home, even for several years, so mothers remain sexually attractive. Males likewise compete more for females and fathers are less involved in child rearing.

Compared to others in poor countries, African women stop breastfeeding their children early. This allows ovulation to resume, so mothers conceive again, thus producing a higher birth rate. Once a child is about a year old, other children and grandparents do much of the caretaking. As children grow older, they look to older children for basic needs. In Black Africa and the Black Caribbean, as in the American underclass ghetto, groups of pre-teens and teenagers are left quite free of adult supervision."

From page 16 of Race, Evolution and Behavior

 

[OldArcher]

Nobody chooses what race, creed, color they are born. If so, free will would not need to exist. Guys I served with were like everyone else, race be damned. If we determine our friends, allies, fellow military members, based solely upon race, we’re automatically weaker. Man who discovered/developed glucose, was in a car accident, and because of his being black, was refused treatment- with his own invention. He died. What more could he have done, had he lived?

Biggest problem in America? Politics- damned liberals, traitors, morons…

OA

 

[Bax333]

yet you claim they are a different species? that is inherently prejudicial in itself. you literally just outed yourself as a hypocrite. we are ONE species with evolutionary differences due to the diverse climate our planet enjoys. period. any other thought or claim is detrimental. now cultural differences we can agree on. hell the propaganda used an these poor souls is abhorrent. you ARE prejudiced as long thinks its us and THEM. its just us. we have been divided and set against each other. ON PURPOSE. and everyone of YOU that plays the racial game plays into that. YOU ARE PLAYING THIER GAME. (the Thier= globalist elite.) stop looking at skin color and look at CHARACTER.

Many are starting to figure out whose game we are playing ie (((globalists)).

Take your brotherhood of man and stick it.

 

[LightEcho]

wake up and smell your own shit rose, cause it stinks. skin color has NEVER been the main issue, its only pushed to make it that way. its all about character. everytime you come back and try to defend your point of view only cements mine more and more. do yourself a favor and go reflect on that. SKIN COLOR IS NOTHING MORE THAN A NARRATIVE DRIVEN WEDGE AND YOU ARE PLAYING RIGHT INTO IT. DO BETTER

Well, that sounds good, but really, the narrative being pushed is that black skin color wraps those smarter than those wrapped in white skin color. As a white male, I and others, have felt the prejudice against us and the slanders. You are right that there is a demonic wedge being forced in here. It is an old game taught to the illuminati and the zionist managers who push the programming onto the liberal morons.

That programming is making the black culture that you point to. Character and culture is more than skin deep. But where are the blacks standing up against the evil character being bred into their families, communities and society general? Oh, sure, there are a few brave and valiant men & women doing this. God bless them! The war needs to be fought by many, not just a few. It is not the white man keeping the blacks down. And the white man should not be raped, pillaged, murdered to appease the feral blacks. So, what is your answer to fix this?

 

[et2]

Blacks earned the reputation they have. It’s up to them to fix it. It’s up to the good blacks to hold them accountable. They don’t … too afraid to be in the crossfire from their own race … and they will. The bad blacks hold “them“ back. It isn’t the white man or woman. Blacks have been given every opportunity to exceed to the point of preference in hirings, test scores, and admissions to Americas greatest colleges … over whites who score higher in many cases. As well as money and other social programs that they mostly benefit from.

I come from the view … they’re not all bad. I’ve had a few black close friends. But they are the exception. I’ve been robbed by blacks, Harrassed by blacks, profiled by blacks. Haven’t experience that with whites, nor have I given it back to the blacks. I mind my business with them and avoid them.

My dislike for them is growing. Why is that. Because their dislike for whites is at an all time high, and is growing exponentially in comparison. They have no filter in their race in general. They don’t conform to society ( most of them). They force society to conform and provide for them.

I’m to old and too tired of this nonsense with them anymore. They will never be pleased. Keep in mind, it was THEIR race that enslaved them.

If that makes me a racist. So be it … I wear it proudly.

 

[Dobbin]

But where are the blacks standing up against the evil character being bred into their families, communities and society general?

You mean the "Oreo Cookies?"

Sorry I jest about a tasty treat. But as a culture, where exactly did this "all our problems come from Whitey" perception come from?

It isn't "To Sir with Love" anymore. I.e. To Sir, with Love - Wikipedia

Later, while attending the funeral of Seales' mother, Thackeray is touched to find that his lectures on personal choice and responsibility have had an effect, and the entire class has attended.

Thackeray (teacher) would exist today as a "lone wolf" without support of the School Administration. And likely without widespread appreciation of what exactly he stood for.

I.e. Human standards of performance, conduct, and grace are now pearls before swine.

So perhaps I've just stepped on (no pointer fingers here) how this came to be - a relaxation of standards in inaccurate identification of the root problem?

A "Lazy human's identification?"

Dobbin

 

[naegling62]

Would it be possible for all the “skin color doesn’t matter folks” to take their kids or grandchildren out of their mostly white public/private schools and put them in schools that are 1% white and tell us their views in a year?

 

[philkar]

i should have guessed with your name. I hope you enjoy your multiculturalism when the country collapses.

I find these exchanges shocking. Above all else…
We all have opinions. Surely they can be expressed kindly.

 

[Scrapman]

Some great society LBJ started .

 

[jward]

While I PERSONALLY recognize the value of airing our differences, and credit us all with being adults with adult sensibilities who're well able to have difficult discussions, I must ask that you all recall that the rules of discourse of the site have shifted, and ask you each be very measured and 'value neutral' in your tone.

Otherwise you risk not only getting yourselves in trouble with establishment, which is absolutely your choice to make, you also risk getting the whole thread shut down, which is not at all fair to the other posters who're interested in the topic and wish to follow the news on it.

Thank you each for considering these factors as you craft your responses to one another.

 

[jward]

Ryan Fournier
@RyanAFournier

BREAKING: Missouri Attorney General calls for teen who slammed girls head into the ground 3 times to be charged as an adult.

DO IT.

9:03 AM · Mar 12, 2024
365.4K
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[Elza]

What is the effect of skin color (genetics) on the person? I don't know and I don't care. What I do know is that the vast majority of crime is committed by a very small group. I personally refuse to believe that blacks comprise only 13% of our population. Whatever the true number they, as a group, are the leaders in crime statistics and by a large margin. And black skin is permanent. Unlike military uniforms, it can't be changed to fool the other side. No matter what we always know whom we are dealing with.

Do I look at blacks differently? Absolutely! Why? See paragraph above. You want to call me a bigot? You want to call me a racist? I DON'T GIVE A DAMN!!! I truly couldn't care less what labels are hung on me by a bunch of myopic SJW idiots. I look out for the well being me and mine. And avoiding blacks is a good step in that direction. Again, CALL-ME-ANYTHING-YOU-LIKE! I do not care.

 

[AuEagle]

Character is great, just seems not a lot of negroes have it. If a black man or woman has character, the rest of the tribe turns on them.

 

[packyderms_wife]

Some great society LBJ started .

There are a myriad of reasons to hate the man... one of which was his picking up his beagle by it's ears!

 

[packyderms_wife]

Ryan Fournier
@RyanAFournier

BREAKING: Missouri Attorney General calls for teen who slammed girls head into the ground 3 times to be charged as an adult.

DO IT.

9:03 AM · Mar 12, 2024
365.4K
Views

Good, once found guilty of attempted murder she herself should have her head slammed into the concrete three times! Or better yet, hang. her from the light post by the front door of her school as a testimony that violence doesn't end well for the perp.

 

[jward]

I understand some need to delve back decades and share their experiences, but of course, the bottom line is: that was two generations and much much much social engineering and societal change ago.

As always, context is king.

Having said that, "since everyone else is breaking the rules of discourse ::grin::" I will add my own personal experience from the seventies, which is also decades, and many generations, out of date, and thus also totally irrelevant.

I was a white female minority in a primarily black gradeschool, and whether it was the time, or the special culture unique to a midwestern "salt of the earth" fly over community or some other thing, I assure you whole heartedly that those black families were overwhelmingly two parent, both parent employed, some with higher educations, home owning, upper lower class communities who were involved with their churches, their neighborhoods, and their families. They were also very involved with their childrens' educations.

In other words, they were what we wish America was.

Many of us all ended up in college prep highschool due our test scores- before dei nonsense came along and gave breaks to special groups- or social engineering began to reward people for inventing victim cards- in other words, they earned their scores, their educations, their grades, and went on to be successful members of the community.

That was then, this is now, and the statistics re: black crime- even if you argue that there is inherit bias in the number who're prosecuted- show what they show. These two things are not mutually exclusive, and are nuanced and the more we appreciate that, the better able we are to arrive at a workable understanding that lifts all of us decent folk and helps us arrive at an understanding of the problems and it's solutions.

Still, I'm confident that we as a group face a much larger threat from our violently mentally ill family members, drug addicts in our families and church communities, as we are well aware to avoid ferrals whereever they are found, but still allow other risky folk into our inner circles.

 

[summerthyme]

OK, enough!! The next one that calls names (how's that character holding up, ira?) will be off this thread, permanently.

got it?!

Summerthyme

 

[Sub-Zero]

I KNOW it's true. The stubbornness with which some professed Christians cling to the vestiges of life concerns and scares me. As much as I love life, my biggest struggle, facing a certain fatal diagnosis (or worse, dementia or something like ALS) would be to submit to my Lord's Will and not send myself Home early.

Summerthyme

I'm gonna haf'ta disagree with that. But, you knew I would. Not trying to be a phallus, I've just never seen the point to it.

We don't make our pets suffer and we console ourselves for making the decision

Honestly, I've never understood the virtue in that kind of unnecessary suffering.

 

[Richard]

This and similar events would never be reported in the UK unless the victims were black. Shows what how sick leftists really are. Time for segregated cities, areas and schools throughout the US.

 

[mzkitty]

This and similar events would never be reported in the UK unless the victims were black. Shows what how sick leftists really are. Time for segregated cities, areas and schools throughout the US.

Richard, you all have your black gang and muzzie problems over there too. I read about them a lot but generally don't post them. France is worse though, from what I see.

 

[Ira]

i should have guessed with your name. I hope you enjoy your multiculturalism when the country collapses.

Do you even know what my name means?

 

[night driver]

ANYONE who reads Heinlein understands implicitly.

 

[Dobbin]

Time for segregated cities, areas and schools throughout the US.

In effect - the segregation exists, even if it's not called that officially.

Those who don't segregate, get to enjoy the optimism or suffer the pain.

Um. Please note that the two sentences above DON'T have any skin color attached.

Dobbin

 

[Ira]

Many are starting to figure out whose game we are playing ie (((globalists)).

Take your brotherhood of man and stick it.

Brotherhood of man? I don't even know what that is. I am a Marine. If that is the type brotherhood you are referring to then damn straight. That is a hill I will proudly bleed on and defend with my life.

 

[foreverkeeps]

I come here to get updates on the poor girl.