ENER Europe Plans "Emergency Intervention" In Power Market As All Hell Breaks Loose

Kathy in FL

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what little gas was flowing to Europe, is shut down again,

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Russia Halts Nord Stream Gas Pipeline, Ratcheting Up Pressure on Europe

European nations racing to fill gas storage facilities before onset of winter

By Georgi KantchevFollow
Updated Aug. 31, 2022 9:13 am ET

BERLIN—Russia shut down its main artery for natural gas to Europe for maintenance on Wednesday, in what Western governments see as the latest salvo in the Kremlin’s economic war on the continent.

The halt comes as European nations race to fill gas storage facilities to prevent a shortage in the midst of winter. Shortages would trigger rationing, likely kneecapping industry and tipping the continent’s already struggling economy into a recession.

Moscow has already throttled back deliveries over the Nord Stream pipeline—which links Russia’s prolific Siberian gas fields with Germany under the Baltic Sea—to just 20% of its maximum capacity, citing technical issues with its turbines. European officials have dismissed these explanations and have called the gas cuts an economic attack in retaliation for supporting Ukraine in the war.

On Wednesday, the Kremlin-controlled gas giant Gazprom PJSC said that it had completely halted the Nord Stream pipeline as “scheduled preventive work begins at the gas compressor unit.” The pipeline is due to come back online early on Saturday.

European officials and analysts, however, have questioned whether Gazprom would restart the pipeline as planned. Some expect Moscow to find new technical pretexts to prolong the outage, while others see Gazprom keeping gas flowing at a low level to create uncertainty and manipulate gas prices.

“Gas prices and European sentiment are about to face a major stress test as the Nord Stream pipeline gets shut for maintenance today for three days, and there is growing concern that another reduction in supply or a complete cutoff in flows may follow at the end of the week,” analysts at ING Bank wrote in a report to clients on Wednesday.

Gas prices in Europe, which have traded at record highs in recent weeks, fell on Wednesday, with futures for gas at a trading hub in the Netherlands, the benchmark in northwest Europe, dropping more than 5%.

Gas is a key fuel for the European economy, heating homes and fueling factories such as smelters and fertilizer plants. Soaring prices for electricity have forced some industrial operations in Europe to announce shutdowns in recent weeks, including energy-intensive metal forging operations.

First opened in 2011, the 760-mile-long Nord Stream pipeline has been an important source of gas for Germany, Europe’s largest economy. Before the war, Russia covered over half of Germany’s gas imports, but supply cuts via Nord Stream affect other European customers because Germany exports some of the gas abroad. There are other gas pipelines from Russia to Europe, but Russia has also throttled flows through these in the wake of the war.

Unlike the 10-day annual maintenance in July, the current Nord Stream shut-off caught officials and traders by surprise when it was announced earlier this month. Maintenance operations are usually telegraphed well in advance so that utilities and traders can make alternative arrangements.

While Gazprom restored gas flows following the works in July, it limited supplies just days later, citing technical problems with turbines. The company insists that a key turbine couldn't be sent to Russia after it was maintained in Canada because of international sanctions on Moscow. But Germany, where the turbine was located, said that there are no obstacles and that Moscow was in fact blocking the turbine’s return to Russia.

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov on Tuesday said nothing will interfere with gas supplies via Nord Stream “apart from technical problems caused by sanctions.”

Gazprom said on Tuesday that it would suspend gas supplies to French utility Engie SA from Thursday over a contractual dispute. Engie said that it had already secured enough gas volumes to ensure supply and has undertaken measures to mitigate any interruption by Gazprom.

While a complete halt of Nord Stream deliveries would worsen Europe’s energy balance during winter when demand is at its seasonal peak, the European Union has been filling its storage facilities faster than expected.

Germany, which has Europe’s largest gas stores, is close to hitting its 85% gas storage target, initially set for Oct. 1. German officials, however, have warned that reaching the next milestone of 95% by Nov. 1 would be challenging unless companies and households cut consumption.

“We can take gas from the storage in the winter, we are saving gas (and need to keep doing so!),” Klaus Müller, the head of the country’s energy regulator, wrote on Twitter on Wednesday.

High gas prices have reduced industrial demand. Increased imports via pipeline from Norway and shipments of liquefied natural gas from the U.S. have put Europe in a stronger position ahead of winter than many analysts forecast when Gazprom first cut supplies through Nord Stream in June. At the same time, there are concerns that supplies from producers besides Russia might not be enough to satisfy European demand later next year.

“Effectively we’ve sacrificed, especially in Germany, industrial consumption over the past month to hit really, really ambitious storage targets,” said Ben McWilliams, an analyst at the Bruegel think tank, adding that the amount of gas in storage makes government-enforced rationing this winter less likely.

For Russia, cutting the supply of gas to Europe isn’t without risk, as the continent has traditionally been Gazprom’s main market and provides a big part of the company’s revenue. Domestic storage, meanwhile, is filling up fast and some gas wells might need to be closed, many of which will be technically difficult to reopen. Russia’s options to reroute the gas flows to Asia or other markets are limited by its traditionally Europe-facing infrastructure.

But despite the limited flows abroad, the company was able to record hefty profits.

“Despite the decline in gas supplies to foreign markets, to markets far abroad, our calculations absolutely clearly show that the financial results of Gazprom, our revenue for 2022, will be significantly higher than in 2021,” Chief Executive Alexei Miller said Wednesday, according to the Russian news agency, TASS.


If you put yourself in the position to be blackmailed, sure enough someone will come along and do it to you.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
Today Electric Ireland just raised its prices again about the same amount as my company did last week - there is really no place to hide and the UK news is full (and I mean full) of businesses that shut down overnight this week as either their new bill came in and/or their "contract offers" for the year would go from things like 10,000 pounds a year to 64,000 pounds a year.

A lot of "thank you to our customers over the years" notes, I wonder if anyone is counting out how they are going to pay for all the new folks who through no fault of their own will be on the dole by next month? Suddenly, I do see a lot of job openings in retail or food service being there to hire them either.

Every shop and pub that shuts down is throwing between 3 and 30 people out of work (more or less) depending on how large it is. Those smallish businesses are the main employers in the UK and Europe and they are also the ones that can't even risk a month or two at those sorts of energy prices. The Big Corporations can usually afford to give it a few months and see what happens before deciding to close their doors and lay people off.
 

Luddite

Veteran Member
The Big Corporations can usually afford to give it a few months and see what happens before deciding to close their doors and lay people off.
Corporatism.
IIRC, Vox Day said it was worse than communism. Probably not original to him either.

The people out of work aren't considered a casualty to tptb AT THIS POINT.

They're to be considered the test subjects for UBI. They told us we'd own nothing and be happy.

Any power consuming business that closes helps free up more green energy for those businesses still operating.
 
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CaryC

Has No Life - Lives on TB
If you put yourself in the position to be blackmailed, sure enough someone will come along and do it to you.
While in total agreement with your statement, the article I read, and thought posted, referred to Norstream 1 being shut down for 3 days for maintenance.

And of course being shut down for 3 days during a time of shortages, isn't good either.

Just wondering since it's not a part of Europe....yet. How Hawaii is doing? Maybe I ought to start a thread about them. Nobody has reported in on the lack of power after the last shipment of coal.
 

vector7

Dot Collector
German FM: I will put Ukraine first “no matter what my German voters think” or how hard their life gets.
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Kathy in FL

Administrator
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While in total agreement with your statement, the article I read, and thought posted, referred to Norstream 1 being shut down for 3 days for maintenance.

And of course being shut down for 3 days during a time of shortages, isn't good either.

Just wondering since it's not a part of Europe....yet. How Hawaii is doing? Maybe I ought to start a thread about them. Nobody has reported in on the lack of power after the last shipment of coal.

The last coal plant just shut down yesterday. They had their last coal delivery end of July. Hawaii supposedly gets 40% of their energy use from "renewables" like solar, wind, etc. They are now using more expensive gas - which is only slightly less polluting but massively more expensive - to power the islands for the 60%.

Hawaii better pray for no storms because I can see it turning into a true cluster.
 

Marthanoir

TB Fanatic
Today Electric Ireland just raised its prices again about the same amount as my company did last week - there is really no place to hide and the UK news is full (and I mean full) of businesses that shut down overnight this week as either their new bill came in and/or their "contract offers" for the year would go from things like 10,000 pounds a year to 64,000 pounds a year.

A lot of "thank you to our customers over the years" notes, I wonder if anyone is counting out how they are going to pay for all the new folks who through no fault of their own will be on the dole by next month? Suddenly, I do see a lot of job openings in retail or food service being there to hire them either.

Every shop and pub that shuts down is throwing between 3 and 30 people out of work (more or less) depending on how large it is. Those smallish businesses are the main employers in the UK and Europe and they are also the ones that can't even risk a month or two at those sorts of energy prices. The Big Corporations can usually afford to give it a few months and see what happens before deciding to close their doors and lay people off.

Ah sure its grand, Eamonn Ryan has a plan :lol:
 

Marthanoir

TB Fanatic
gruel is a thin liquid food of oatmeal or other meal boiled in milk or water.
it takes heat to boil milk or water so not gruel.

Good luck popping corn between your legs.

Yeah I know, that was sarcasm, I say, I say sarcasm...

I have a solid fuel range, hot plates , oven, heats all the hot water for the house, and feeds 9 radiators.

And we have no shortage of fuel for it :D we own our own bog
 

Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
The degree of disconnect between TPTB and "everyone else" will become more and obvious until TPTB find themselves, if they're lucky, being ignored and replaced by a new PTB who serve those they claim to represent. The WEF PTB aren't going to be that new group in the long term, particularly after a couple of cold winters and food rationing.
 

Marthanoir

TB Fanatic
Yes, but it won't be for Planet Earth because he obviously doesn't live here...lol

What ever it is its gonna be a gem like "People should grow lettuce on their window sill" to counter Covid supply problems :lkick:

And the eijit has spoken. :lol:
The greens have no idea about life in the rural areas because they all live in cities.
District heating systems :lol:


Details of ban on gas and oil home-heating systems to be known within weeks​

Environment Minister Eamon Ryan wants district heating systems to be deployed swiftly as an alternative

A ban on installing gas and oil boilers to heat new and existing homes is among the measures the Government is finalising as part of a package of energy-crisis responses to be unveiled in the coming weeks.

The ban would apply to newly built homes from next year and to replacement installations in existing homes possibly as soon as 2025.

It comes as it emerged one in five new homes built last year and one in 12 this year to date have fossil-fuel heating systems despite the introduction of regulations meant to encourage the use of clean energy.

Boilers in around half a million homes built during the construction boom from 2000-2010 are also approaching end of life and are due for replacement soon.

Energy and Climate Minister Eamon Ryan said the replacement of fossil fuels with fossil fuels could not continue.

“What we need to do now is make it absolutely clear for people that we are switching away from fossil fuels and switching to better alternatives,” he said.

Tightened energy-efficiency regulations for new builds have prompted a move away from oil and gas but with high levels of insulation and other installations, it is still possible for a new home to get an A-rating even with a gas boiler.

Gas Networks Ireland connected more than 8,000 new domestic customers last year alone.

“If we’re going to meet our climate targets, if we’re going to protect our people from the high gas prices, we have to stop new connections, we have to start switching to alternatives,” Mr Ryan said.

“And when it comes to existing boilers, that whole fleet of boilers in the 25pc of houses that were built between 2000 and 2010, we have to make sure they switch to heat pumps, not to new gas boilers, not to replace fossil with fossil.”

Mr Ryan said district heating, where heat generated by industrial and commercial activities is captured and piped into surrounding homes, would have to be rapidly and widely deployed.

He spoke at a conference of the Irish District Energy Association (IrDEA) which heard that Ireland has the lowest level of district heating in the EU.

“We only have to improve from awful to terrible to make a big difference,” said IrDEA director David Connolly, who said Ireland was starting almost at zero.

He said a recent Danish study found 90pc of the 1.8m homes connected to district heating systems there were completely insulated from the gas price hikes of recent months.

The Climate Action Plan has a target of providing 2.7 terawatt hours of heat from district heating by 2030 – around 6pc of all the heat used by Irish buildings.

Marie Donnelly, chair of the Climate Change Advisory Council, said the target needed to increase tenfold in order to attract the overseas companies that were experts in developing district heating systems.

She said: “2.7 isn’t worth their effort. They won’t get into a plane and come and talk to us at 2.7. We have got to say we are going to do 50pc by 2030. It’s achievable.”

Mr Ryan said he was less concerned about targets than proof of delivery.

He said he would be meeting Dublin City Council chief executive Owen Keegan next week to push for progress on the much-delayed plans to heat as many as 80,000 homes and properties in Dublin with the heat from the Poolbeg waste incinerator.

The State has put €20m into the project, the pipes are laid under the Liffey and most of the apartment blocks in the Docklands area were built ready to connect to the facility but nothing has happened in the five years it has been in operation.

“Instead, it’s heating Dublin Bay,” Mr Ryan said.


 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
OMG, I missed this somehow - Mr. Not on This Planet is totally and utterly out of his mind. The "Heat Pumps" costs thousands of Euros that most rural people don't have and need a lot of Electricity to work. Plus the ones they are putting in don't work very well so people end up using small electric heaters or their sold fuel stoves/fireplaces anyway.

An engineering friend explains why the "cheap" (like 10 to 20 thousand euro) versions don't work, basically, it is because they don't drill deep enough. We looked into real Geo-Thermal 20 years ago and back then it would have been over 30,000 to install a proper one, that's when you could get a small cottage for about 40,000 Euro (now they are at least 165,000 to 200,000).

As for "District Heating," I had to pay around 1,000 Euros just to have someone lay pipes for water when our old well went out, and we don't know what will happen with the "rural broad band project." It goes to the end of our 1/2 mile laneway but "not my yob" according to the company paid for by taxpayers to install it to get it to any of the three houses on our lane.

I hope they can lay miles and miles of connecting pipes for their "district" heating - again it might work in the smaller towns and larger villages, but it does not work in the really rural areas.

And yes, the old well is still here if the world goes boom but it is too deep for one of those special non-electric hand pumps - the really old well by the house has water part of the year and we have a river just off the property (and I know what a rain barrel is, and I bought an old milking tank on wheels in case we had to use river water).
 

Marthanoir

TB Fanatic
OMG, I missed this somehow - Mr. Not on This Planet is totally and utterly out of his mind. The "Heat Pumps" costs thousands of Euros that most rural people don't have and need a lot of Electricity to work. Plus the ones they are putting in don't work very well so people end up using small electric heaters or their sold fuel stoves/fireplaces anyway.

An engineering friend explains why the "cheap" (like 10 to 20 thousand euro) versions don't work, basically, it is because they don't drill deep enough. We looked into real Geo-Thermal 20 years ago and back then it would have been over 30,000 to install a proper one, that's when you could get a small cottage for about 40,000 Euro (now they are at least 165,000 to 200,000).

As for "District Heating," I had to pay around 1,000 Euros just to have someone lay pipes for water when our old well went out, and we don't know what will happen with the "rural broad band project." It goes to the end of our 1/2 mile laneway but "not my yob" according to the company paid for by taxpayers to install it to get it to any of the three houses on our lane.

I hope they can lay miles and miles of connecting pipes for their "district" heating - again it might work in the smaller towns and larger villages, but it does not work in the really rural areas.

And yes, the old well is still here if the world goes boom but it is too deep for one of those special non-electric hand pumps - the really old well by the house has water part of the year and we have a river just off the property (and I know what a rain barrel is, and I bought an old milking tank on wheels in case we had to use river water).

Yeah I reckon the Gards need to take a close look at what lettuce he's growing on his window sill :lol:

The good news is at the next election it should wipe out the Greens as a political party forever.
It took them long enough to return after being in Government with FF in the run up to the last crash.
 

ainitfunny

Saved, to glorify God.
1- medium -size politician, cubed
20 - carrots, sliced
20 - celery stalks, sliced
10 - medium onions, diced
5 - clove of garlic
Salt & pepper to taste
Bone broth
Slow cook until tender.

Serves the neighborhood
Or, HOW TO COOK A POLITICIAN WHEN THE FOOD RUNS OUT ?
 

Marthanoir

TB Fanatic
And another semi-state owned company raises prices.

Bord Gáis announces second price increase this year.​


Bord Gáis has announced its second price hike this year with plans to increase the unit price of electricity and gas by 45.7 per cent and 48.6 per cent respectively.

The latest increases, which are due to come in from October 2nd, follow increases of 43 per cent for electricity and 29 per cent for gas from April.

The changes will impact around 350,000 electricity and 300,000 gas customers.

As standing charges are due to remain unchanged, average electricity bills are expected to rise by 34 per cent (€579), while average gas bills will jump by 39 per cent (€526).

Figures from Bonkers.ie estimate that when both the April and October price hikes are considered, households are facing an extra €1,300 for electricity and €1,100 for gas.

The announcement from Bord Gáis follows a similar move by Electric Ireland after the company confirmed on Thursday that it is to increase electricity and gas prices by 26.7 per cent and 37.5 per cent respectively from October 1st.

"Today’s news was expected given yesterday’s announcement from Electric Ireland. The small comfort is that both suppliers didn’t increase their standing charges," Bonkers.ie's head of communications Daragh Cassidy said.

"We’re heading into winter with gas and electricity prices at absolutely astronomical levels. And it will get even worse.

"The average gas and electricity bill is now around €4,000. That’s close to the UK price cap of £3,549.

"In the UK the price cap is forecast to rise to over €6,000 in January. Over 70 per cent of our gas comes via the UK, so our prices track theirs relatively closely. Indeed, UK gas and electricity has generally been slightly cheaper than ours in recent years, so that shows you what we could be looking at," he added.

 

mistaken1

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Please forgive me but it still amazes me the number of brainiacs banning 'traditional' energy without having any viable alternatives to the banned goods and services lined up and ready to go. Clearly these people live in a fantasy world of their own making.
 

Knoxville's Joker

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Please forgive me but it still amazes me the number of brainiacs banning 'traditional' energy without having any viable alternatives to the banned goods and services lined up and ready to go. Clearly these people live in a fantasy world of their own making.

No, forcible mass die offs. This will not end well. Hungry freezing folks are easy to herd, but, some folks will fight back, and it will be nasty.
 

TKO

Veteran Member
Today Electric Ireland just raised its prices again about the same amount as my company did last week - there is really no place to hide and the UK news is full (and I mean full) of businesses that shut down overnight this week as either their new bill came in and/or their "contract offers" for the year would go from things like 10,000 pounds a year to 64,000 pounds a year.

A lot of "thank you to our customers over the years" notes, I wonder if anyone is counting out how they are going to pay for all the new folks who through no fault of their own will be on the dole by next month? Suddenly, I do see a lot of job openings in retail or food service being there to hire them either.

Every shop and pub that shuts down is throwing between 3 and 30 people out of work (more or less) depending on how large it is. Those smallish businesses are the main employers in the UK and Europe and they are also the ones that can't even risk a month or two at those sorts of energy prices. The Big Corporations can usually afford to give it a few months and see what happens before deciding to close their doors and lay people off.
The only question European leaders have is "How can we keep immigrants warm?" Screw the whites. They are more difficult to control.
 

raven

TB Fanatic
This is Freedom and how it works . . . which in a crunch looks exactly like the opposite.

But you can still paint your face blue, put on a kilt, and bend over and show your butt to the king . . . that's the important thing. Of course, when it gets cold enough, you won't have to paint your face.
 

CaryC

Has No Life - Lives on TB
While in total agreement with your statement, the article I read, and thought posted, referred to Norstream 1 being shut down for 3 days for maintenance.

And of course being shut down for 3 days during a time of shortages, isn't good either.

Just wondering since it's not a part of Europe....yet. How Hawaii is doing? Maybe I ought to start a thread about them. Nobody has reported in on the lack of power after the last shipment of coal.

If you put yourself in the position to be blackmailed, sure enough someone will come along and do it to you.

Well the article I read seemed sincere, BUT THEN the mouths of Europe began talking and just like that, there was an "oil leak" and it's suspended indefinitely.

You were still right, though. I think you may be in the same vein as Trump.

I just want to say one thing: Winter is coming.


And we have no shortage of fuel for it :D we own our own bog
Owning your own bog, now that is interesting. I would be aware of any strange noises that sound like Hounds, and if any bodies show up. And as an extra precaution don't go out on the bog at night.

LOL
 

Zagdid

Veteran Member

Swedish PM calls for decoupling electricity, gas prices​

Source: Xinhua Editor: huaxia
2022-09-03 06:31:45

STOCKHOLM, Sept. 2 (Xinhua) -- The Swedish government on Friday called for decoupling gas from the electricity pricing system, as this would lead to lower electricity prices.

"It is not reasonable that Swedish households and companies buy Swedish electricity that is produced cheaply, but have to pay sky-high prices because many of our neighboring countries are dependent on Russian gas," Prime Minister Magdalena Andersson said at a press conference.

Sweden's government will demand that electricity prices on the European energy market be decoupled from the price of gas, which has become unreasonably high due to Russia's "energy war" against Europe, according to Andersson.

Decoupling gas would lead to the electricity price in southern Sweden being halved, Minister for Energy and Digital Development Khashayar Farmanbar said in the same press conference.

Andersson also announced that she would work for a broad coalition within the European Union to bring down the electricity cost, which has lately reached record levels.

The electricity price in Sweden, especially in the south, has repeatedly soared to new records during the last month with an average price of 3.05 Swedish crowns (0.28 U.S. dollars) per kWh and peaks of close to eight crowns. ■
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
I point out that Sweden has nuclear power plants, one was close to where we lived when we lived in the rural countryside.
 
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