ENER Europe Plans "Emergency Intervention" In Power Market As All Hell Breaks Loose

Money ain't gonna fix this problem. They need Nordstrom 2 . They listened to president potato head now they have to deal with the consequences.
More to your point - "they" listened to the communists that control the EU, NATO, Germany, the UK, France, the Biden regime, etc.

This could portend the unraveling of the EU, going forward, if this problem is not resolved to the satisfaction of the peoples of Europe.


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Techwreck

Veteran Member
Most (not all) so called leaders never worked at a real job at any time in their life. A lot of PHD's (piled higher and deeper)
That's a whole lot of the problem right there, and not just in Europe.

An entitled class of spoiled elites who have "people" to do everything for them, yet believe themselves somehow superior.
Completely clueless about the workings of the real world and dealing with reality hands-on.

Incredibly arrogant in their ignorance.

Joe Biden couldn't handle one shift at even a fast food joint, yet he is in charge of the US?

Easy to theorize and idealize when you never touch the things that you purport to be able to manage.

So far, they have avoided major accountability, thanks to their lackey media and the ability to throw other peoples money at the problems they create.

People won't buy the "Putin's fault" or "Trumps fault" BS when they're shivering, hungry, and scared, in what is left of their formerly first world countries.

Price controls? Completely clueless Euroweenies and Euroweeniettes.
 

Old Greek

Veteran Member
That's a whole lot of the problem right there, and not just in Europe.

An entitled class of spoiled elites who have "people" to do everything for them, yet believe themselves somehow superior.
Completely clueless about the workings of the real world and dealing with reality hands-on.

Incredibly arrogant in their ignorance.

Joe Biden couldn't handle one shift at even a fast food joint, yet he is in charge of the US?

Easy to theorize and idealize when you never touch the things that you purport to be able to manage.

So far, they have avoided major accountability, thanks to their lackey media and the ability to throw other peoples money at the problems they create.

People won't buy the "Putin's fault" or "Trumps fault" BS when they're shivering, hungry, and scared, in what is left of their formerly first world countries.

Price controls? Completely clueless Euroweenies and Euroweeniettes.
100% correct Techwreck!
 

Publius

TB Fanatic
Armed revolt and if and when it happens they brought it upon themselves and the best we can hope for is the people kill off all of them.
 

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
As I said, not quite no guns and there are other options also that people have. It is true there are a lot of guns that are registered, but in many places not all of them are. Americans (including me before I lived here) often have a very skewed idea of what Europeans, Irish, or folks in the United Kingdom are like.

Even England, which is probably one of the most disarmed countries on this side of the water still has a lot of farmers with shotguns and some "shooters" (in the US that would be hunters) with rifles.

Perhaps a better question might be, here, is how many British Royal Marines would open fire upon their own citizens? Or the equivalent countries thereat?

That's an old saw in the States, and it used to be There Was No Way. That was before the woke kicked in, but now Uncle is scrambling for sojers to make up for the lack. Most of what's left probably WILL shoot, but there are a lot fewer of them around.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
Perhaps a better question might be, here, is how many British Royal Marines would open fire upon their own citizens? Or the equivalent countries thereat?

That's an old saw in the States, and it used to be There Was No Way. That was before the woke kicked in, but now Uncle is scrambling for sojers to make up for the lack. Most of what's left probably WILL shoot, but there are a lot fewer of them around.
If the EU had the really organized military they've been trying to get (and there are strong rumors it was one reason the UK government wanted to leave the EU to avoid merging with it), then they could do what Rome managed to do for about 500 years or so. Make sure to station troops from one province (in the EU country) in a totally different province, preferably one with a totally different culture.

For example, a lot of people in England were turning up with really-really (like 2000-year-old) African DNA, then it was realized that the Libyan Legion was the primary one stationed in Britannia. They were not the only ones, there were Germans and others but usually, British Recruits might be sent to say the Middle East and Greeks to Germany - that sort of thing.

Thankfully, the EU does NOT really have its own military (yet) and what you are asking is very much the 64,000 dollar question. I think the answer is that in some places troops might fire on fellow citizens but in other places they probably won't. The problem is, that no government can be sure that their troops will be among the ones that will obey such orders and which ones won't.

I would never have expected The Netherlands to be a hotbed of resistance but so far it is proving to be one, at least when it comes to farming and agriculture. There has been serious (and I do mean serious) pushback against the government's attempts to shut down large areas from farming because of "climate change."
 

Old Gray Mare

TB Fanatic
And Germans! Boar hunting, deer hunting, and other types of hunting are popular sports as is going to Poland to hunt bigger game. Again most of the guns are registered but not all are.

Again, I am in no way advocating armed resistance, especially not at this time; I am saying pretending it won't happen because supposedly Europeans have no access to guns, bombs or other professional and homemade insidery devices is laughable. I haven't even gotten to the black powder and cannon reenactor folks, though that isn't legal in Ireland it is in the UK...

None of this would stand up against a real army (probably, except as a guerilla force) but it could make life very dangerous for a lot of elites in their families, some even inside their gated enclaves if people really-really lost it. Up until now, I think the powers that be were sure they wouldn't, that the population would just shiver and be grateful for their ration cards and warming stations (Germany is already setting those up).

And you know, they could be right, but someone(s) has just woken up to what could happen if they guess wrong.
A few years ago a working WWII tank was "found" in the basement of a private home in Germany.* I've no doubt arms stashed for and by WWII Resistance fighters will turn up for generations to come. Stories of Home Guard in Britain passing on knowledge before they die has happened. Surprisingly I heard of one case where both a husband and wife were in it and sworn to secrecy, only braking that oath in extreme old age. Neither had known the other was a member.

As to the "just woken up" part? The Weimar Republic is just barely out of living memory. Over two hundred government officials died without a cause of death on their death certificates. It was a bad time. I believe I pulled this out of: When Money Dies if anyone wants to do more research. It might prove to be a cautionary tale for those creating this mess?

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WW2 tank found in German pensioner's basement​

BY EILISH O'GARA ON 7/3/15 AT 1:40 PM EDT

Whilst many people use their basements to store their collectables - rare vinyl perhaps, a model train set - one 78-year-old German man has pushed domestic subterranean storage to the limit after it was discovered he had stored a Second World War tank in his basement for over 30 years.

German police in the town of Heikendorf, northern Germany confiscated the 1943 Panther tank yesterday with the help of 20 soldiers, along with a torpedo, and an anti-aircraft gun, Der Tagesspiegel reported.

According to Deutsche Welle, the police were alerted to the stockpile of weaponry by prosecutors in Berlin who had previously searched the pensioner's home looking for stolen Nazi art pieces. The prosecutors were following a tip-off, after it had been reported that the man's home and garden were decorated with Nazi-era bronze sculptures.

It took almost nine hours for army personnel using two modern day recovery tanks to extract the vintage panzer from the man's cellar. Speaking to the Telegraph, Ulrich Burchardi, spokesman for the German army, described the difficult task of removing the tank without damaging the house as "precision work".

Prosecutors in Keil are now investigating whether the unnamed man has violated German weapons laws, which regulate the handling of knives, firearms and ammunition as well as acquisition, storage, commerce and maintenance of weapons.
The pensioner's attorney, Peter Gramsch, told a local news agency that all the items had been properly demilitarized and had also been formally registered. Gramsch also hinted that his client is considering legal action against the seizure, in order to claim compensation for the confiscation of the tank and also any damages that may have been to it during its removal.

The discovery of the Panther and the other weaponry did not come as a surprise to local residents, however, many of whom gathered outside the house to watch the whole furore. Locals claimed it was common knowledge that the man owned the tank and that he had previously used it to plow snow from the roads during winter.

Alexander Orth, the Mayor of Heikendorf, who was present during the tank's removal, told local media that the owner "was chugging around in that thing during the snow catastrophe in 1978".
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vector7

Dot Collector
I got this electricity bill today, how in the name of God is this possible, we're a small coffee shop in westmeath
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View: https://twitter.com/DolanGeraldine/status/1564392353300889603?s=20&t=cq7WWmRyUCkuiAUQhXxjAA

JUST IN - Russia's #Gazprom to further cut natural gas shipments to #Engie, one of France's largest energy companies, from today.
View: https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1564588552033341441?s=20&t=B20YiLr-esMGamjGFrJ8mQ
 

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
Well...YEAH....

Fair use cited so on and so forth.


"Of Course, The Real Problem Is That Europe Doesn't Have Any Energy Supplies"​


By Michael Every of Rabobank

Markets saw choppy and mostly gloomy trade on Monday as they responded to the Jackson Hole message that rates are going to be higher for longer. Stocks were down, bond yields were up, and the US dollar was close to a new fresh high on the broad Bloomberg index: in particular, at time of writing USD/JPY was at 138.7 and USD/CNY is 6.91 – 7 here we come (again)! It goes without saying that EUR/USD was around parity, but fundamentals suggest it won’t stay there for long: it’s going well under. That is despite the fact that away from the financial media focus on Powell saying the same thing he has been saying for weeks (and equity markets have been steadily ignoring, “because markets”), one of the biggest sea-changes at J-Hole was in the stance from Europe.

In particular, we got a speech from the ECB’s Schnabel, ‘Monetary policy and the Great Volatility’, which did the unthinkable (for the Fed) – it mentioned the geopolitical backdrop as a key driver of inflation, not the abstract ‘”supply chains”, and noted that this was likely to be a structural feature not a temporary blip. Moreover, the world was drifting apart to boot. As she put it:

The Great Moderation was a period of prosperity and broad macroeconomic stability. The volatility of both inflation and output declined, the length of economic expansions increased, and people in most economies experienced sustained improvements in their standards of living…. Yet, monetary policy was not the only factor behind [it]. Good luck, in the sense of a smaller variance of the shocks hitting the global economy, is widely believed to have played an important role as well…”

Except it wasn’t “luck”: you don’t need to embrace historical materialism and dialectics to see history is not about linear trends or steady states – or even steady nation-states.

Anyway, Schnabel continued:
The question I would like to discuss… is whether the pandemic, and more recently Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, will herald a turning point for macroeconomic stability - that is, whether the Great Moderation will give way to a period of “Great Volatility” – or whether these shocks, albeit significant, will ultimately prove temporary, as was the case for the global financial crisis.”

Her conclusion is the same as mine: these shocks are *not* temporary, and while “Globalisation acted as a gigantic shock absorber... The pandemic and the war are likely to add to instability in the years to come." Moreover, as predicted here continuously since 2015’s ‘FX Wars’ and 2016’s ‘Thin Ice’, “Today, the world economy is at risk of fracturing into competing security and trade blocs. The international network that connects our economies is fragile. We are witnessing new and alarming forms of protectionism."

Of course, Schnabel was of the view that a determined commitment to Volckeresque high rates for as long as needed could break the back of this inflation. Thus, partly, the market sell-off. However, she overlooks that what did the inflation trick for Volcker was neoliberal supply-side reforms and globalization, which destroyed the power of labor vs. capital. That’s a trick that can only be played once and arguably needs to be reversed to bring inflation down this time (i.e., nationalization, onshoring, forcing private capital to invest productively, not speculate, and redistribution to prop up final demand to support local production) alongside higher rates. Schnabel of course didn’t go there. But somebody who can read history will.

The sense of intellectual retreat to match the market’s was also evident in yesterday’s Bloomberg op-ed, ‘The West Needs Friendshoring, Not Reshoring’. This put China in the same geopolitical basket as Russia, which presumed UK PM Truss is also about to do too, yet begs that rather than reshore, the West should friendshore to retain as much of the neoliberal architecture as possible – just with people who are more liberal: “In the short term, the current revolution in the world’s supply chains will inevitably bring much pain, from sudden surges in the price of energy of the sort now tormenting Europe to a more general inflationary pressure. In the longer term, however, if we can handle the revolution properly, showing a mixture of restraint and foresight, firmness and dissimilitude, we can produce a healthier global economy - one that preserves the advantages of world-stretching supply chains while gradually freeing us from dependence on the whims of the autocrats in Moscow and Beijing.” Which still involves splitting the world in two.

Fusing all the above arguments, yesterday was also notable for the EU making a grand declaration on resolving its current energy crisis. Steps will be taken to de-link the price of electricity, now over EUR1,000 per MWh(!), from the price of gas, which while still at insane highs, tumbled yesterday in thin trading. Furthermore, measures will be taken to ensure renewable energies are generated at lower costs, and consumers directly benefit, price caps, windfall profits taxes, and, potentially, rationing. Talk about a retreat from neoliberalism!

On one hand, this is no surprise. Polanyi argued markets are ultimately always subservient to society, and right now society does not want to freeze or go hungry. However, understand this is not just a ‘technical decoupling of marginal trading linkages’ – it is dismantling market pricing, and the moral (and financial) argument for having the private sector involved in energy at all, except where their capital is directed by government, for a socially-acceptable rate of return. And after energy, where next, given our long list of supply short-falls and Achilles’ Heels?

Welcome to industrial policy. Welcome to corporatism (one definition of which is fascism). Welcome to Common Prosperity.

Welcome also to the mixed-economy model European nation-states used to build their power systems until the 1980s and neoliberalism.

Of course, the real problem is that Europe doesn’t have any energy
supplies to force state or private capital into – or at least not ones it is prepared to tap: indeed, Germany’s economy minister says the “bitter reality” is that Russia will not resume gas supply. Enjoy those stocks you have built up at huge expense, because there will be far less flow ahead.

As such, what power source will the EU link electricity prices to?
Solar panels, in winter when northern Europe’s energy requirements are at their highest? Burning the M&Ms that unicorns excrete?

Underlining the point, Brent oil prices rose 4% to over $105 yesterday before retreating slightly (and wheat and corn went up 3-4% too, showing that central banks are still behind the curve on that front); Iraq slipped into chaos, with the US airlifting its personnel out of another Greater Middle East embassy(!); it was rumored OPEC+ may announce a production cut ahead; that the US might have to dip into its Strategic Petroleum Reserve even more – as if there can’t be a real crisis that demands its use ahead; and US Department of Defence spokesman Kirby warned he was concerned about the possibility of energy shortages ahead.

The brutal lesson is that neoliberalism is like a chocolate teapot – it looks amazingly sweet until things get ‘hot’, and then it serves no purpose at all. Yet industrial policy/corporatism/fascism/Common Prosperity also needs to be based on the real, and realpolitik, not the ideal. If the EU throws de facto MMT/printed money at energy subsidies within a neoliberal framework with no concrete, achievable plan for more energy supply (of what? From whom?) then it is simply going to drive global energy prices higher, many EM into the ground – some of whom are located close to Europe, EUR well through the parity floor, and inflation still into the sky. So let’s hope there is joined-up thinking behind their latest proposals.

Relatedly, the title of today’s Daily, ‘The Power of the Powerless’ (which I have used before) addresses the energy situation in Europe, but was also the title of a political pamphlet by dissident Vaclav Havel against communist Czechoslovakia. He argued the first step to bringing down the regime was for a powerless greengrocer not to place the state-backed sign saying, ‘Workers of the World, Unite!’ in his window. If Europe (and others) had done the same with certain neoliberal-approved signs they arguably would not be in the critical mess they are in now.

Finally, and also linked to the Daily title --as even the ECB agrees with me!-- military reports are that a Ukrainian Kherson counter-offensive has begun. Market participants who have read any history will know that watching the success or failure on that key front will likely also be key to the global geopolitical and inflation outlook longer term. Far more so than most central bank warble, regardless of how much power they like to think they have.
 

Marthanoir

TB Fanatic
I got this electricity bill today, how in the name of God is this possible, we're a small coffee shop in westmeath
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View: https://twitter.com/DolanGeraldine/status/1564392353300889603?s=20&t=cq7WWmRyUCkuiAUQhXxjAA

JUST IN - Russia's #Gazprom to further cut natural gas shipments to #Engie, one of France's largest energy companies, from today.
View: https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1564588552033341441?s=20&t=B20YiLr-esMGamjGFrJ8mQ
.WT actually F, thats nutz, I'm with the same supplier, 8th jun till 19th August seems like a long bill .

Lets hope its an error.
 

Marthanoir

TB Fanatic
I got this electricity bill today, how in the name of God is this possible, we're a small coffee shop in westmeath
FbXWjdbWQAEv5x1

View: https://twitter.com/DolanGeraldine/status/1564392353300889603?s=20&t=cq7WWmRyUCkuiAUQhXxjAA

JUST IN - Russia's #Gazprom to further cut natural gas shipments to #Engie, one of France's largest energy companies, from today.
View: https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1564588552033341441?s=20&t=B20YiLr-esMGamjGFrJ8mQ

She was with the Spanish company that pulled out of the Irish market and hee account was automatically transfered to Electric Ireland

Café owner 'couldn't believe' almost €10,000 electricity bill.​


The owner of a café in Co Westmeath has said she was left speechless after receiving an electricity bill for almost €10,000 this week.

Geraldine Dolan who runs Poppy Fields Café in Athlone said the bill for €9,836 was for just over two months, from 8 July 8 to 19 August.

"I opened the bill, I took my glasses off, I put them back on again. I just couldn't believe it," Ms Dolan said.

"I got one of the staff here to look at it too and I thought maybe the decimal point is in the wrong place," she added.

Ms Dolan had a business account with Spanish company Iberdrola, which pulled out of the electricity supply business in Ireland in June.

Her account was then automatically transferred to Electric Ireland and it appears she lost the switching discount offered by Iberdrola.

It meant that instead of paying a discounted rate for her electricity, Ms Dolan was transferred to the standard unit rate charged by Electric Ireland.

"How can you go from paying €14.99 per unit, which works out at €34 at day to €123 a day?" she asked.

"We've no extra heating on at the moment. We have an air purifier, but they’re not hard on electricity. Our kitchen is not all electric, we use gas too," she explained.

"We're not using electricity any more now than we did last year. You need your oven on, you need your griddle on? How can I reduce my electricity anymore?" she said.

Ms Dolan said she had no other option to switch providers until the start of September at the earliest, but she will be changing as soon as she can.

"The bill will have to be paid because I’ve no intention of closing my business," she said.

The café owner remains defiant and said she is determined to continue, having been in Athlone for 16 years.

"I’ve great staff and great clientele. I’ve been on to the Restaurants Association today about this, but the Government will have to intervene," she said.

President of the Consumers Association Michael Kilcoyne said if a contract with a supplier runs out, then it reverts to the normal market rate.

"It will drive places out of business," he said.

"This is so serious. I think the Government deciding to give people a voucher for a few hundred euro won’t solve the problem either.

"What we didn’t do over the last 20 years is going to come back to haunt us. We should have been generating our own electricity and now the consumer is paying through the nose" he added.

In a statement, Electric Ireland said it does not comment on individual customer bills, however it said the company is acutely conscious of the impact of price rises on customers.

The company flagged unprecedented wholesale prices which are "currently many multiples of what would just a year ago have been deemed normal wholesale energy prices".

Electric Ireland said this has resulted in "significantly higher unit rates for customers who may be coming off fixed price contracts, which are now expiring and were agreed with their supplier in previous years, when energy prices were much lower".


 

Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
Uncle is scrambling for sojers

Little birdie tells me that recruiters can now access school and medical records for potential recruits all the way back. Any ritalin scrips, SSRIs or other medical issues involving behavioral/psych problems is a non-waiverable bar to enlistment....
 

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
Little birdie tells me that recruiters can now access school and medical records for potential recruits all the way back. Any ritalin scrips, SSRIs or other medical issues involving behavioral/psych problems is a non-waiverable bar to enlistment....

Interesting. Last I'd heard they were lowering the bar as frantically as they could. Now they're tightening up? Wha hoppen?
 

Marthanoir

TB Fanatic
As I said, not quite no guns and there are other options also that people have. It is true there are a lot of guns that are registered, but in many places not all of them are. Americans (including me before I lived here) often have a very skewed idea of what Europeans, Irish, or folks in the United Kingdom are like.

Even England, which is probably one of the most disarmed countries on this side of the water still has a lot of farmers with shotguns and some "shooters" (in the US that would be hunters) with rifles.

When you get into Sweden, you are talking about one of the most heavily armed countries in Europe - both in terms of legally registered guns for hunting (especially in North Sweden) that will take to bears, elk, and Lynx; but also as I said the military at least used to quietly have veterans take their military weapons home and list them as "lost." In case Russia ever invaded it was their job to form the underground resistance. My husband was shown some of those guns by one of his hunting buddies who was a veteran.

And Germans! Boar hunting, deer hunting, and other types of hunting are popular sports as is going to Poland to hunt bigger game. Again most of the guns are registered but not all are.

Again, I am in no way advocating armed resistance, especially not at this time; I am saying pretending it won't happen because supposedly Europeans have no access to guns, bombs or other professional and homemade insidery devices is laughable. I haven't even gotten to the black powder and cannon reenactor folks, though that isn't legal in Ireland it is in the UK...

None of this would stand up against a real army (probably, except as a guerilla force) but it could make life very dangerous for a lot of elites in their families, some even inside their gated enclaves if people really-really lost it. Up until now, I think the powers that be were sure they wouldn't, that the population would just shiver and be grateful for their ration cards and warming stations (Germany is already setting those up).

And you know, they could be right, but someone(s) has just woken up to what could happen if they guess wrong.

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CapeCMom

Veteran Member
I know it’s not Europe but I saw on Boston news last night that the Northeast home heating oil reserves are down 65 percent. Are we going to be in the same boat?
 

mecoastie

Veteran Member
I know it’s not Europe but I saw on Boston news last night that the Northeast home heating oil reserves are down 65 percent. Are we going to be in the same boat?
Not to the extent that the Europeans but I expect a lot higher energy bills in the next year. Chimney and woodstove installers are very busy up here this year.
 

Kayak

Adrenaline Junkie
Little birdie tells me that recruiters can now access school and medical records for potential recruits all the way back. Any ritalin scrips, SSRIs or other medical issues involving behavioral/psych problems is a non-waiverable bar to enlistment....

Not true. A friend's son was on all kinds of ADHD meds, more than just ritalin, from middle school on. The Navy paid for med school and he's a Navy doc now. Was supposed to get out in a few months but he's been told that isn't happening.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
A few years ago a working WWII tank was "found" in the basement of a private home in Germany.* I've no doubt arms stashed for and by WWII Resistance fighters will turn up for generations to come. Stories of Home Guard in Britain passing on knowledge before they die has happened. Surprisingly I heard of one case where both a husband and wife were in it and sworn to secrecy, only braking that oath in extreme old age. Neither had known the other was a member.

As to the "just woken up" part? The Weimar Republic is just barely out of living memory. Over two hundred government officials died without a cause of death on their death certificates. It was a bad time. I believe I pulled this out of: When Money Dies if anyone wants to do more research. It might prove to be a cautionary tale for those creating this mess?

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WW2 tank found in German pensioner's basement​

BY EILISH O'GARA ON 7/3/15 AT 1:40 PM EDT

Whilst many people use their basements to store their collectables - rare vinyl perhaps, a model train set - one 78-year-old German man has pushed domestic subterranean storage to the limit after it was discovered he had stored a Second World War tank in his basement for over 30 years.

German police in the town of Heikendorf, northern Germany confiscated the 1943 Panther tank yesterday with the help of 20 soldiers, along with a torpedo, and an anti-aircraft gun, Der Tagesspiegel reported.

According to Deutsche Welle, the police were alerted to the stockpile of weaponry by prosecutors in Berlin who had previously searched the pensioner's home looking for stolen Nazi art pieces. The prosecutors were following a tip-off, after it had been reported that the man's home and garden were decorated with Nazi-era bronze sculptures.

It took almost nine hours for army personnel using two modern day recovery tanks to extract the vintage panzer from the man's cellar. Speaking to the Telegraph, Ulrich Burchardi, spokesman for the German army, described the difficult task of removing the tank without damaging the house as "precision work".

Prosecutors in Keil are now investigating whether the unnamed man has violated German weapons laws, which regulate the handling of knives, firearms and ammunition as well as acquisition, storage, commerce and maintenance of weapons.
The pensioner's attorney, Peter Gramsch, told a local news agency that all the items had been properly demilitarized and had also been formally registered. Gramsch also hinted that his client is considering legal action against the seizure, in order to claim compensation for the confiscation of the tank and also any damages that may have been to it during its removal.

The discovery of the Panther and the other weaponry did not come as a surprise to local residents, however, many of whom gathered outside the house to watch the whole furore. Locals claimed it was common knowledge that the man owned the tank and that he had previously used it to plow snow from the roads during winter.

Alexander Orth, the Mayor of Heikendorf, who was present during the tank's removal, told local media that the owner "was chugging around in that thing during the snow catastrophe in 1978".
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Man now I want a vintage tank for my basement! :xpnd: Goals, gotta have goals!
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
She was with the Spanish company that pulled out of the Irish market and hee account was automatically transfered to Electric Ireland

Café owner 'couldn't believe' almost €10,000 electricity bill.​


The owner of a café in Co Westmeath has said she was left speechless after receiving an electricity bill for almost €10,000 this week.

Geraldine Dolan who runs Poppy Fields Café in Athlone said the bill for €9,836 was for just over two months, from 8 July 8 to 19 August.

"I opened the bill, I took my glasses off, I put them back on again. I just couldn't believe it," Ms Dolan said.

"I got one of the staff here to look at it too and I thought maybe the decimal point is in the wrong place," she added.

Ms Dolan had a business account with Spanish company Iberdrola, which pulled out of the electricity supply business in Ireland in June.

Her account was then automatically transferred to Electric Ireland and it appears she lost the switching discount offered by Iberdrola.

It meant that instead of paying a discounted rate for her electricity, Ms Dolan was transferred to the standard unit rate charged by Electric Ireland.

"How can you go from paying €14.99 per unit, which works out at €34 at day to €123 a day?" she asked.

"We've no extra heating on at the moment. We have an air purifier, but they’re not hard on electricity. Our kitchen is not all electric, we use gas too," she explained.

"We're not using electricity any more now than we did last year. You need your oven on, you need your griddle on? How can I reduce my electricity anymore?" she said.

Ms Dolan said she had no other option to switch providers until the start of September at the earliest, but she will be changing as soon as she can.

"The bill will have to be paid because I’ve no intention of closing my business," she said.

The café owner remains defiant and said she is determined to continue, having been in Athlone for 16 years.

"I’ve great staff and great clientele. I’ve been on to the Restaurants Association today about this, but the Government will have to intervene," she said.

President of the Consumers Association Michael Kilcoyne said if a contract with a supplier runs out, then it reverts to the normal market rate.

"It will drive places out of business," he said.

"This is so serious. I think the Government deciding to give people a voucher for a few hundred euro won’t solve the problem either.

"What we didn’t do over the last 20 years is going to come back to haunt us. We should have been generating our own electricity and now the consumer is paying through the nose" he added.

In a statement, Electric Ireland said it does not comment on individual customer bills, however it said the company is acutely conscious of the impact of price rises on customers.

The company flagged unprecedented wholesale prices which are "currently many multiples of what would just a year ago have been deemed normal wholesale energy prices".

Electric Ireland said this has resulted in "significantly higher unit rates for customers who may be coming off fixed price contracts, which are now expiring and were agreed with their supplier in previous years, when energy prices were much lower".


And this is the problem with the so-called "private" energy market - it is a one-way street.

You see the energy companies come in and buy up parts or shares of the old State companies that were built originally with taxpayer money.

They make great deals with customers in good times and offer all kinds of perks and they seem wonderful unless or until some sort of disaster strikes. In California, it was repeated fires that "bankrupted" PGE (except the power lines are not going anywhere) and right now in Europe it is the sudden rise in the costs of doing power going up by 30, 40, 100 times what it was in just a couple of months!

The companies that "provide" the "energy" like the one that sends me a bill suddenly panic. They have to BUY the energy at those prices and then pass it on to consumers who they KNOW in many cases will not be able to pay (physically impossible for many) and will simply default on their bills (with government intervention of some sort).

So poof! They leave the market overnight - now does the low-cost, one-year contract the individual consumer (like the cafe owner) stay with them when the government forcibly assigns them to a new company? Oh no, you see the Electric "company" can just void their contracts and leave, but you the consumer have no rights at all other than to switch to a new company at whatever the highest price they are charging is.

This shop owner thought she was still under contract for another year and in a sane regulatory system, any new company assigned to take her own would have to honor the contract at least for the rest of the year. But that isn't how it is done - she's lucky, she can stay open (for now).

A lot of businesses are going to get bills like that and shut down overnight, perhaps declaring bankruptcy on the way out the door.

Finally, I predict with absolutely no psychic ability that IF current trends continue, by Spring, only the old State Electric company (that is already 90 percent still owned by the Irish State) is likely to be left standing. There might be one or two other "providers" left in Ireland but I doubt it (unless something changes).

The same thing is likely to happen in the United Kingdom and other countries in Europe that use that type of "privatization" system. The sort where the consumer only benefits when times are good and the big companies just flee the seen when things are bad - sort of like the insurance industry.
 

dunebuggy

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raven

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I got this electricity bill today, how in the name of God is this possible, we're a small coffee shop in westmeath
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colonel holman

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Not to the extent that the Europeans but I expect a lot higher energy bills in the next year. Chimney and woodstove installers are very busy up here this year.
There will also be many cases of house fires due to unused wood stoves and fireplaces suddenly being fired up without cleaning and safety checkups… hypothermia among the elderly… illness due to skipping essential medications, plus malnutrition… frozen & burst pipes… etc due to extreme prices or simply not available (which would be a widespread disaster here in NE
 

mecoastie

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There will also be many cases of house fires due to unused wood stoves and fireplaces suddenly being fired up without cleaning and safety checkups… hypothermia among the elderly… illness due to skipping essential medications, plus malnutrition… frozen & burst pipes… etc due to extreme prices or simply not available (which would be a widespread disaster here in NE
Indeed. My boss decided to get a woodstove and had the company come look at the chimney liner in the house. It had creosote an inch and a half thick. If he had just installed a stove and fired it up the house would be gone. We are already talking about the potential of having an elderly couple come stay for a while if we get a real cold snap.
 

WalknTrot

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Well..they can build up a short-term supply. Their BIG problem is they have no domestic production.

They've tanked their nuclear facilities, won't tap coal reserves or any natural gas or shale they may be sitting on.
 
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