CaryC
Has No Life - Lives on TB
$300 per cord for pine here. I don't even know what oak would go for.
and all of mine is oak, either Water, or White Oak.
$300 per cord for pine here. I don't even know what oak would go for.
Yep, about $30 a ton - delivered. The great thing about coal is that you can store it outside. Weather doesn't hurt it. Coal produces 12,000 BTU per lb. Looking to fill in a small gulley next to the driveway? Use coal. Coal makes a wonderful underlayment under the deck, instead of gravel and also works as a bottom layer in raised garden beds for good drainage. Wish to build a pathway? Make it from coal and sprinkle some dark colored pea gravel throughout. Neither the postman nor the HOA will know what it is. Ask me how I know. When it get's cold, dig up a 5-gallon bucket for a week's worth of fireplace heat. Just make sure your fireplace is in good shape to handle the high temp.Pa area coal is a dirt cheep way to heat as well.
I have a friend that uses it.
He loads a bunch off 55 gallon drums on a trailer, they load it at the place and when he gets home he picks them off with a tractor and puts them by the back basement door.
I want to say he only spends 100 some bucks a year.
Pa area coal is a dirt cheep way to heat as well.
I have a friend that uses it.
He loads a bunch off 55 gallon drums on a trailer, they load it at the place and when he gets home he picks them off with a tractor and puts them by the back basement door.
I want to say he only spends 100 some bucks a year.
Eastern Ohio, as a kid...remember the smell of the coal stoves and furnaces. That’s how you did it. Ohio has lots of coal still. Takes a special set up, but a coal stove would be worth its weight in gold given what’s coming.
We're around 12c per kWh. But that's with all the other crap and taxes in there.
Been that way for years.
Yep, about $30 a ton - delivered. The great thing about coal is that you can store it outside. Weather doesn't hurt it. Coal produces 12,000 BTU per lb. Looking to fill in a small gulley next to the driveway? Use coal. Coal makes a wonderful underlayment under the deck, instead of gravel and also works as a bottom layer in raised garden beds for good drainage. Wish to build a pathway? Make it from coal and sprinkle some dark colored pea gravel throughout. Neither the postman nor the HOA will know what it is. Ask me how I know. When it get's cold, dig up a 5-gallon bucket for a week's worth of fireplace
Anthracite here in NE Pa. coal region is $210.00 a ton delivered. I know that for sure as we just had a delivery of 5 ton and we are 15 miles from the coal fields. Last year we paid $200. Are you talking about Bituminous (soft) coal? Because anthracite here hasn't been $30 a ton for 30 years. If it's anthracite, let me know where you get it and I'll fill my front yard!
I was told that it's not good to burn pine as it makes too much creosote. Is that true?$300 per cord for pine here. I don't even know what oak would go for.
You got me beat. I leave my oil furnace on 58 most winter,but it's.been warm so I have it on 55 now. ONLY cuz I cant shovel to get the gate open to get another filling in winter. I suppliment with electric heaters and my bill is high in winter, but I'm on the budget plan. Right now I have a full tank of oil. Need it to last the next 4 months.MidAmerican Energy announced in October or November that we (Iowa) should EXPECT our winter heating bills to increase from 46% to 96%. Mine had already gone up $20 before this announcement. I'm on an annual budget plan, keep my heat set at 65º and a/c at 80º in the summer. Actually, I seldom run the a/c because after being shut inside for 9 months of cold weather I enjoy the heat. Of course, 90º weather with 90% humidity will get the a/c turned on! I have natural gas and I understand from what I've heard in the community that propane has gone up drastically. This is not unique to Pennsylvania by any means.
The problem is, they are all switching to a high percentage of so-called "green energy" sources, which are stupid expensive and ridiculously inefficient. Whether mandated, for "woke" purposes or both, we are all getting burned in the wallet, certainly through no choice of mine.CC is right. PA produces a lot of natural gas. No reason for this increase.
True, but for green wood.I was told that it's not good to burn pine as it makes too much creosote. Is that true?
Warren is an aggressive supporter of the Green New Deal, which would drastically restrict the production of oil and natural gas. In her state of Massachusetts, policies blocking the expansion of natural gas pipelines have resulted in Russian LNG tankers in Boston Harbor bringing fuel to the Bay State.“This a misguided and headline-grabbing ploy,” says David E. Callahan, president of the Marcellus Shale Coalition (MSC).
“If she knows anything about these highly complex energy markets, she must know what’s really going on here,” added Callahan, who co-authored a response letter alongside the leaders of the Gas & Oil Association of West Virginia (GO-WV), and Ohio Oil & Gas Association (OOGA).
“It’s a commodity market, prices ebb and flow, and the market is responding to those signals.”
And those constituents are paying the price, according to Callahan.“She has her constituents to represent and her political affiliation to support,” said Charlie Burd, executive director of GO-WV.
“But to be perfectly honest, I just think those comments almost show a complete lack of understanding on how energy is explored for, produced, and transported in this country.”
Republican National Committee spokesperson Allie Carroll said Warren’s latest attempt to blame energy companies for the results of Biden and Democrats’ war on energy is an insult to hardworking Pennsylvanians.“It’s really supply and demand 101,” added Burd. “It’s not rocket science.”
Pennsylvania is the nation’s second-largest producer of natural gas, and attacks on the industry have an impact on the state’s economy.“From canceling the Keystone XL pipeline to stripping away our energy independence, Democrats’ reckless anti-energy policies are crippling our country, and turn after turn, Pennsylvania families are paying the price.”
Republican U.S. Senate candidate Dr. Mehmet Oz also pushed back on Warren’s approach.“Hostility toward the fossil fuel industry ill-serves the American people, including Pennsylvanians who sit atop huge natural gas and coal deposits that provide plentiful and affordable energy to millions of people,” said Gordon Tomb, a senior fellow at Commonwealth Foundation. “The benefits of these resources can hardly be overstated: well-paying jobs and prosperity as well as a foundation for all kinds of business activity and energy security.”
Meanwhile, Europe is facing fuel scarcity as winter approaches and some of the nations are turning back to coal to meet immediate demands. American exports are vital, experts say.“The ground under Pennsylvania and surrounding states has almost as much natural gas as Saudi Arabia that is readily accessible through fracking,” Oz said. “We should be using this to make our nation safer, create jobs, and less dependent on China. As the Senator for Pennsylvania, I will fight against any effort to destroy Pennsylvania’s energy leadership and the jobs it supports.”
Frank Macchiarola, American Petroleum Institute (API) Senior Vice President of Policy, Economics and Regulatory Affairs, also has a message for U.S. policymakers.“Our friends and allies in Europe and Asia, they need natural gas and for a whole host of reasons including over-reliant policies on intermittent renewables,” says Callahan. “The wind is not blowing as hard as they expected it to this year, they find themselves in need of natural gas, and so we’ve been shipping some gas overseas to supply those markets and help our friends.”
No, she walked that statement back last week. I posted a thread about it.It's only temporary said Mouch. Only temporary.
Everyone but the elites of course. They “need it.”According to the socialist logic I guess they need to shut down some more coal & nuke plants so everyone can share the experience.
As I’ve repeatedly said, that’s not going to happen.Be aware TX, are y'all in for a rinse and repeat?
I was told that it's not good to burn pine as it makes too much creosote. Is that true?