blueinterceptor
Veteran Member
You’re partially right. If Dexter had complied, and not fired the first shot, he wouldn’t be dead and the cop who was shot, wouldn’t have needed surgery.
VIDEO COPA video shows Chicago police firing at Dexter Reed 96 times in 41 seconds after he shot officer
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Abe Froman
Senior Member
Some kid who didn’t think he’d make it to medical school is getting the call tomorrow.
Cause all it takes to open up a slot is… 96 shots.
Cause all it takes to open up a slot is… 96 shots.
medic38572
TB Fanatic
If they had hollared, Police and Identified themselves and been dressed accordingly instead of ranting like a butt hurt monkey he may have complied but then pulling a firearm out and pointing it at him he probably felt like he was being jacked by a bunch of thugs! Don't blame him for shooting first. Not 1 of them people identified themselves as police, Not 1 Per the body cams we have seen.
blueinterceptor
Veteran Member
So what you’re are saying is the unmarked police car with the flashing lights. The officers that were wearing the vests saying POLICE on them and having the badges embroidered on the front of them with the word police weren’t sufficient for you? But if they said police, it’s all good.? The cop who was shot was wearing one of the vests.
Watch the video. It’s all there.
There was a statement made by some mafia types, how did you know they were the police and not a hit ? The answer. The cops make a lot of noise when they stop you. A hitman comes in quietly.
the cop below gets out of the back of the unmarked car
the cop on the passenger side was also wearing this kind of vest
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medic38572
TB Fanatic
We can agree to disagree all day long, neither one will win. But I can promise you if I were on a jury based on the evidence I see now, someone would be sleeping with bubba when it is all said and done. But I am not on the jury and neither are you, so we will let the people of Chitcago sort this one out! If 2 or more stays out of prison, I will buy you a coffee, If 1 or more go to prison, you can buy me a coffee! Deal? 
blueinterceptor
Veteran Member
lol sure. But I’ll have a coke.
They will have as fair a chance as the cops in George Floyd’s case
They will have as fair a chance as the cops in George Floyd’s case
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medic38572
TB Fanatic
I already said that, thats why I bet!
TidesofTruth
Veteran Member
You are completely wrong on this and proven so when a marxist leader of a mayor supports the cops and you are left of him.
medic38572
TB Fanatic
Did you watch the video of the family and Attorneys?
Doc1
Has No Life - Lives on TB
If the perp pulled a gun on the cops he deserved to be lit up, BUT, I have rarely seen such piss poor police fire discipline and cowardice (as some of the cops were running way, while barely controlling their weapons). Further, the mag dumps - barely aimed - were completely unprofessional and endangered untold people in that neighborhood. I also saw a complete lack of muzzle discipline and I suspect that the officer who was hit took a round from one of their fellow cops.
Of course there will be an internal affairs investigation and the results will be that the officers did absolutely nothing wrong and should be promoted for their heroic actions, blah, blah, blah.
Those cops shouldn't be trusted with anything more dangerous than a water pistol.
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Doc
Of course there will be an internal affairs investigation and the results will be that the officers did absolutely nothing wrong and should be promoted for their heroic actions, blah, blah, blah.
Those cops shouldn't be trusted with anything more dangerous than a water pistol.
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Doc
TidesofTruth
Veteran Member
Yes of the Dramatic show of the family and extended family wanting and the race baiter lawyers who all want to get paid lining up telling us all what a good boy this career criminal while holding his high school picture over 10 year ago when the truth of the matter is he is a felon with a gun, having just been arraigned on at least his 3rd gun charge and retail theft charges. Its not that he had a gun like they state in their video. He shot a cop. He pulled the trigger at least 8 times although 10 casings were found in his vehicle. You pretty much can expect to die if you shoot a cop. This was a tactical team. The seatbelt was just a pretext. They knew they were dealing with a bad guy from the start. The family and lawyers told lie after lie in that presser completely contrary to the video all the way to the end when they said no officer rendered aid when clearly saw an officer doing chest compressions. Just lying sacks of dung wanting a payoff
TidesofTruth
Veteran Member
I only saw one cop there worth his salt, the one with the thigh injury. I saw lots of uncontrolled adrenaline. I think they needed every single shot they fired because they weren't very good. I'd be surprised if more than 3 bullets actually hit him
Illini Warrior
Illini Warrior
we'll never know >>> idiot black driver tooooo stupid to understand his fix - toooo much video gaming - or suicide by cop ....
but good riddens - one less POS taking up space in jail or out there crooking .....
but good riddens - one less POS taking up space in jail or out there crooking .....
GammaRat
Veteran Member
I'm not convinced the officer was shot by the perp.
Those dumbasses were emptying every magazine on their belt, without acquiring a target.
I wouldn't be surprised if the officer was hit by another officer's bullet, or a ricochet.
Moreover..
I'm not convinced the perp shot first.
One dumbass with poor trigger control could have started the whole thing..
It wouldn't surprise me if there was a gun in the car.. but it also wouldn't surprise me to have forensics find that it hadn't been fired recently.
Those dumbasses were emptying every magazine on their belt, without acquiring a target.
I wouldn't be surprised if the officer was hit by another officer's bullet, or a ricochet.
Moreover..
I'm not convinced the perp shot first.
One dumbass with poor trigger control could have started the whole thing..
It wouldn't surprise me if there was a gun in the car.. but it also wouldn't surprise me to have forensics find that it hadn't been fired recently.
CaryC
Has No Life - Lives on TB
But, but......he play ball good.
Notice that was one of the things the Mayor put in the plus side.
Didn't realize I had hit post cuz I wanted to ask, since I didn't watch the video, how many cops were involved?
Cuz 96 rounds is slightly more than 5 magazines IF they held 18 rounds each. In 41 seconds. So was wondering was it 6 cops? Or did someone reload?
And while I agree that when the perp shoots first all bets are off (Bonney and Clyde) that is some fast shooting.
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33dInd
Veteran Member
Amazes me
Country has an epidemic of violent crime
People on this forum are stopping just short of calling for vigilante justice
People in this forum are calling for tanks and machine gun on the border shooting
Yet a scum bag with priors gets rubbed out
Two prior felony arrest for guns
And the police hater’s jump here and say send the cops to jail
Oh
The dichotomy
The horror
The hypocrisy
The sumbtch is dead
No more victims
What’s the problem here
This isn’t Eric garner
Country has an epidemic of violent crime
People on this forum are stopping just short of calling for vigilante justice
People in this forum are calling for tanks and machine gun on the border shooting
Yet a scum bag with priors gets rubbed out
Two prior felony arrest for guns
And the police hater’s jump here and say send the cops to jail
Oh
The dichotomy
The horror
The hypocrisy
The sumbtch is dead
No more victims
What’s the problem here
This isn’t Eric garner
Marthanoir
TB Fanatic
How many hits ?
GammaRat
Veteran Member
Including the cop?
Marthanoir
TB Fanatic
Just wondering how many times was the perp hit.
I don't have a youtube account to watch the vid and don't care enough to go to nsfwyoutube to watch it.
Just wondering what the marksmanship of the PD was like.
Horst Wessel.....
33dInd
Veteran Member
Having been a firearms instructor. About 59% of cops are barely adequate shots on a paper target on a nice spring day
In a firefight you dont have time to acquire your sights. You just better be ready
I’ve been involved in 3 firefights
It’s on ya and over with in a few seconds
I’ve dropped 3
It’s different from range time when your looking eyeball to eyeball at a dude with a gun and he’s bringing it up to dance
Most ya all couldn’t handle it without soiling yourselves
And it ain’t even bad out there yet
And if they move to do so they'll loose the rest of the department and this summer the town will burn bright enough to be seen from the moon.
Southside
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Well, since you put it that way, maybe........
CaryC
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Just guessing but I suspect that range time consists of shooting at a target at a specified distance, maybe 30 feet (?) 10 yards and that was it. With 59% on paper?
When real range time should be putting you under stress, and targets at various unknown distances.
Had an Air Force version of NCIS shooting instructor put some of us under stress during a shoot, the guy could literally make you go poo poo on the range, and targets at various ranges, with multiple targets on the same paper and loosing points for anything outside of the 10 ring.
One of the nicest guys you'd ever want to meet. Jim Bob McCarthy You're welcome to google him, at one time held 10 national titles.
Here is a link to his qualifications to many to post here. He's at Trigger time in Tupelo.
https://training.usconcealedcarry.com/instructor/96dfb48e-dd47-11e8-bad8-0242c0a80010
Old Greek
Veteran Member
Working towards the Ghetto lottery!
Old Greek
Veteran Member
DEI training!
Yeah. I'll give you that. Was my thought as well.
medic38572
TB Fanatic
Yep it does!
Not me but I wanted the invaders sent back to where they came from
Yep, where guns are outlawed in chitcago, Where crime is so rampant that people break the law to protect themselves. And where the very people charged to protect you violate and abuse you.
No body here hates cops, I don't! I just want the same justice used on us, used on them. Get rid of qualified immunity!
You're mad because we all are not boot lickers and bow to your presence. That we want you to be held accountable for your actions, just as you hold us accountable for ours. If we are not above the law and held accountable for our actions, You're not above the law you should be held to those same standards.
Don't take me wrong you're service to our communities is appreciated and we need it. But just in your own post here I see that you have lost the zeal for the life of others. You do not care about it "The sumbtch is dead, No more victims
What’s the problem here"
33dInd
Veteran Member
Yeah96 rounds down range.....HOW MANY HITS?!?!
Sure seems like a bit of over kill or a hellva lot of misses. Maybe more time on the range for those officers?!?
Shoulda been no more than 3
A few more details,
Fair Use Cited
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COPA letter reveals one officer fired at least 50 times during Dexter Reed shooting
COPA requested officer's police powers be removed "immediately," letter says
by: Julian Crews, Eli Ong
Posted: Apr 10, 2024 / 03:53 PM CDT
Updated: Apr 10, 2024 / 04:25 PM CDT
CHICAGO — New questions are being raised about the validity of a deadly police traffic stop that led to the death of 26-year-old Dexter Reed and a Chicago police officer being shot in the wrist.
An internal letter from the Civilian Office of Police Accountability to Chicago Police Department superintendent Larry Snelling was obtained by WGN News Wednesday, revealing one officer fired at least 50 times.
Acquired through a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request, the letter revealed how COPA administrators are focused in on the conduct of one specific tactical officer who fired more than four dozen shots in the exchange, including the final three shots as Reed laid motionless and unarmed on the pavement.
COPA administrator Andrea Kersten addressed concerns about the stated reason for the traffic stop — an observed seatbelt violation, according to police.
“The available evidence calls into question the veracity of this account,“ Kersten wrote. “COPA is uncertain how the officers could have seen this seat belt violation given their location relative to [Reed’s] vehicle.”
Reed’s name was redacted from the report since he was publicly revealed as the man who was killed in the shooting.
“And the dark tints on [Reed’s] vehicle windows,” Kersten continued. “This evidence raises serious concerns about the validity of the traffic stop that led to the officer’s encounter with [Reed].”
Other concerns in the letter to Snelling raised questions about the proportionality of the police response.
Although COPA said Reed fired first, 96 shots were fired from CPD’s tactical unit. While it is not clear how many shots Reed fired, though one WGN Investigates source said around ten shell casings were found in his vehicle after the shooting and his gun was emptied of ammunition.
“The evidence recovered in the aftermath of this incident indicates all four officers discharged their firearms at Reed AFTER he exited his vehicle and was unarmed,” Kersten wrote.
The identities of all five CPD officers involved, including the officer who was shot in the wrist, were revealed in the internal document. WGN News is not including their names because they have not been formally charged with a crime.
As for the officer who Kersten wrote “fired at least 50 times,” COPA requested they be relieved of their police powers immediately, based on what Kersten described as the safety risk posed by his conduct during this incident.
COPA further stated it has grave concerns about that specific officer’s ability to assess what is a necessary, reasonable and a proportional use of deadly force.
wgntv.com
Fair Use Cited
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COPA letter reveals one officer fired at least 50 times during Dexter Reed shooting
COPA requested officer's police powers be removed "immediately," letter says
by: Julian Crews, Eli Ong
Posted: Apr 10, 2024 / 03:53 PM CDT
Updated: Apr 10, 2024 / 04:25 PM CDT
CHICAGO — New questions are being raised about the validity of a deadly police traffic stop that led to the death of 26-year-old Dexter Reed and a Chicago police officer being shot in the wrist.
An internal letter from the Civilian Office of Police Accountability to Chicago Police Department superintendent Larry Snelling was obtained by WGN News Wednesday, revealing one officer fired at least 50 times.
Acquired through a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request, the letter revealed how COPA administrators are focused in on the conduct of one specific tactical officer who fired more than four dozen shots in the exchange, including the final three shots as Reed laid motionless and unarmed on the pavement.
COPA administrator Andrea Kersten addressed concerns about the stated reason for the traffic stop — an observed seatbelt violation, according to police.
“The available evidence calls into question the veracity of this account,“ Kersten wrote. “COPA is uncertain how the officers could have seen this seat belt violation given their location relative to [Reed’s] vehicle.”
Reed’s name was redacted from the report since he was publicly revealed as the man who was killed in the shooting.
“And the dark tints on [Reed’s] vehicle windows,” Kersten continued. “This evidence raises serious concerns about the validity of the traffic stop that led to the officer’s encounter with [Reed].”
Other concerns in the letter to Snelling raised questions about the proportionality of the police response.
Although COPA said Reed fired first, 96 shots were fired from CPD’s tactical unit. While it is not clear how many shots Reed fired, though one WGN Investigates source said around ten shell casings were found in his vehicle after the shooting and his gun was emptied of ammunition.
“The evidence recovered in the aftermath of this incident indicates all four officers discharged their firearms at Reed AFTER he exited his vehicle and was unarmed,” Kersten wrote.
The identities of all five CPD officers involved, including the officer who was shot in the wrist, were revealed in the internal document. WGN News is not including their names because they have not been formally charged with a crime.
As for the officer who Kersten wrote “fired at least 50 times,” COPA requested they be relieved of their police powers immediately, based on what Kersten described as the safety risk posed by his conduct during this incident.
COPA further stated it has grave concerns about that specific officer’s ability to assess what is a necessary, reasonable and a proportional use of deadly force.
Letter reveals cop fired 50+ times in Reed shooting
CHICAGO — New questions are being raised about the validity of a deadly police traffic stop that led to the death of 26-year-old Dexter Reed and a Chicago police officer being shot in the wrist. An…
wgntv.com
ShadowMan
Designated Grumpy Old Fart
Question: DID the deceased FIRE FIRST? If so, that ends the discussion right there.
Next Question: Who shot the one officer? Was it the deceased or was it "Friendly Fire"?
Third Question: Whose gun was found at the scene and where?
Last Question: where did the ten empty cases come from inside the deceases vehicle?
Next Question: Who shot the one officer? Was it the deceased or was it "Friendly Fire"?
Third Question: Whose gun was found at the scene and where?
Last Question: where did the ten empty cases come from inside the deceases vehicle?
Southside
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Unbelievable!
