Are You Too "Christian" to Vote For Trump?

[privatemom]

My personal take:

1. This is NOT the election to vote your conscience. That was the last 5 elections, when we all "held our nose". In my mind, there is NO choice this time. Trump or death to the nation (and possibly/probably self).

2. I keep asking myself how many "Christians" think they are "helping" God by bringing in the last days. (IF they would only accept that when the end times come is in God's hand, not ours.)

3. I agree with so many others. Trump is flawed. But guess what - so are WE. God equips the called. If Trump is called, he WILL be equipped.

 

[Richard]

He's certainly no polished politician. No question about that. Trump was the only non-establishment candidate running. I am now old enough to have seen a long succession of professional politicians who claim to be conservatives, but continue to vote with the libs. The political class has brought the nation to the edge of economic collapse, and has used its influence to bludgeon Americans into accepting behavior which can only have an extremely negative effect on society.

Trump may not be able to reverse the direction we are going, but the career pols don't even try.

As someone else has posted, when the enemy is at the gates, we need a Patton and a Churchill. It cannot be "business as usual."

Long succession of incompetent professional politicians who have a track result of zero in the political arena. Whatever good happens in the USA has nothing whatsoever to do with Professional Politicians, they just preside over it and take the credit or otherwise.

 

[Coulter]

If trump loses, which I think will happen, it won't be because of Christians. Its because people picked the most flawed republican candidate possible. The guy is a clown with very little morals, so in no way am I goin to run down any group of people for voting their conscience.

Name 3 people in America who would be a better pick.

 

[LightEcho]

Saul of Tarsus was a hater of the Christians. He hunted them down. Had them tortured and murdered. Saul was not a good candidate for christian church leader. But Saul had an encounter with Messiah during a supernatural event. The enemy of the Church was shown Light and he became a powerful force for the group he previously terrorized.

Those who want to judge the christianity of Trump have forgotten that his life is not over yet. You don't know what is happening with Trump. If this is all a big scam, I can assure you that there is One who will judge Trump rightly. Has God told any of you that Trump is a son of the father of lies? Has God told you that Trump is a deceiver since he is 180 degrees different from where he was 3 years ago?

If Trump is a deceiver, then we have 2 deceivers deciding who will enslave us. The Hillbeast says she will take your guns, chop up your babies, control all your money and bring invading muslims to add to the ghetto spawn that you will be forced to support until they kill you. Trump says the opposite. Somehow, you think it is wise to allow Hillbeast to do what she promises?

 

[WildDaisy]

Finding "dirt" on Trump didn't sway his supporters, so now they are trying to attack the supporters themselves by saying they are "less than" Christian to vote for Trump.

I'll vote for Pilate before I would vote for Judas.

 

[AuEagle]

How about. Are you satanic enough to vote for the lying,corrupt,treasonous,murdering, baby killer hitlery ?

All of my Christian family & friends are or have already voted Trump. Myself included.

 

[Ragnarok]

My point was that I was starting to get a little turned around because both sides of the argument are frantically shouting that the other side is actively sinning. The ones who won't vote for Trump say God will get me on Judgment Day for voting Trump because of various evil reasons, and those who will vote for Trump say God will get me on Judgment Day for NOT voting Trump because I didn't actively take a stand against a horrible woman who would have done a lot worse.

Needless to say, the Bible is mum on voting for or against Donald Trump. In fact, the phrase "Donald Trump" is found absolutely nowhere in Scripture, so everyone's making a few suppositions about what the Bible says.

Ok...

I can't recall anyone ever saying that the Bible says to vote for Trump, maybe I missed that thread or reply, I don't know?

My point is, ALL of mankind is fallen. There will NEVER be a perfect candidate until He returns and He isn't going to be asking for your vote.

Those that say they can't vote for Trump because of the things he has said or done in the past are being utterly ridiculous... I, actually, struggled with the same line of thought for about 24 hours and I came out the other side even more convinced that I needed to vote for the first time in my life and cast that vote for Trump.

One only needs to look at the CONSTANT stream of sleaze, corruption, crime, traitorous deeds, Islamic pandering, self-absorbed actions that come from Hillary. I mean, seriously:

1. Responsible for the deaths of Americans in Benghazi then compounding it by lying to the families, the American people, and the FBI about the reasons
2. Openly flipping the bird to our protocols for handling classified information, which has put the safety of others at risk, and AGAIN lying about it
3. Defending rapists both in the court of law and in her own family
4. Providing open access to the highest level of government secrets to the Muslim Brotherhood through Huma Abedin
5. Selling the offices of the Secretary of State to the highest bidder. ( Any doubt she would do the same as president? )
6. Using the Clinton Foundation to bilk Haiti ( as an example, there are many others ) out of $90 million dollars that was donated for their relief efforts after an earthquake

That is just off the top of my head. There is OVERWHELMING evidence that she is a criminal and should be in jail. The fact that she is allowed to run for president and is expected to win speaks volumes not only of our legal system in America but the morals and values of our people.

What, EXACTLY, has Trump done that is so much worse than Clinton?

With Clinton, you KNOW what you will be getting. A corrupt president that will sell out this country even more than Obama, that will continue to push the Islamist agenda, that will have a Chief-of-staff who is part of the Muslim Brotherhood, who will continue to push the progressive agenda and destroy what little is left of conservative values in America, who will push for abortions, who will destroy the Supreme Court with progressive picks, who will act to confiscate guns...

Good Lord...

How can ANYONE ( Christian or otherwise ) be okay with that platform unless you are an outright traitor to the values and foundation of this country???

Trump has said he will be a conservative pick, he has surrounded himself with good people like Ben Carson and Newt Gingrich, he is on the side of the military, he is against open capitulation to Islam, he is against illegal immigration, he has given us a list of people he would chose for the supreme court, he is pro-law and order...

Who are you voting for???

 

[FREEBIRD]

Those who say that only God can judge Trump have no problem with judging those who may not vote for him. Which gives us:
---Trump, who only God can judge, and
---the rest of us, for whom apparently God delegated our judgment to a bunch of people on a discussion board.

Makes total sense to me.

 

[pinkelsteinsmom]

The boat is one inch from the water line and people are still talking this shite.

 

[Buick Electra]

Those who say that only God can judge Trump have no problem with judging those who may not vote for him. Which gives us:
---Trump, who only God can judge, and
---the rest of us, for whom apparently God delegated our judgment to a bunch of people on a discussion board.

Makes total sense to me.

I know some people on here do judge. I also know the majority do not judge but will "give as good as they get" to the Trump name callers or name callers of his supporters. Plus WE ALL KNOW Hillary-operatives have been sent to every forum to sir up crap.

That aside, ...on the "Christian-Thing"......I view this as such:

FACT 1: Our ALMIGHTY FATHER has chosen THIS TIME to reveal all the dirty, nasty, corrupt, disgusting, evil, vomitus actions of not just the Clintons but this current administration. These aren't things the Trump campaign have trotted out and have *hoped* the public would buy. These are there deeds that were resurrected from the pit of darkness, IN THEIR OWN WORDS, that the Lord has chosen to shine a light on at this time.

FACT 2: Of all the issues Hillary flip-flops on (private vs public stances) the one policy she has been consistent on, AND put in writing is abortion.

FACT 3: On the other side we have Trump's own crude words of his sexual exploits to a kid who was impressed by Trump.

ACCUSATION: Knowing the media will do Hillary's job of destroying her opponent, we have 11 women trotted out on national television *claiming* Trump raped, grabbed, and paid for sex anywhere from 10 to 30 years ago.....who just now, decided to tell us about these deeds.

Since my True Father gave me a working brain, I automatically dismiss the accusation knowing how the MSM detests Trump and will do whatever they can to bring him down. No cancelled check was produced for the $10K Trump supposedly paid the porn star. No police reports produced from the other women. Timing is suspect on they're coming out.

I can't claim to know if Trump is going to stick to his policies that he has espoused, so I'm not even going to go there. Remember, I'm dealing in facts only.

As a believer who walks with Christ, when comparing fact #1 and #2 with fact #3, I have a choice between evil, spelled out in black and white that was tried to be kept hidden, or a crude braggadocios businessman who has employed people and created businesses. Voting 3rd party I rule out as I believe that is a wasted vote when I need to be voting against evil.

Now let me work this out after all my Father has shown me...... Evil vs. crude? Braggadocios vs. more dead babies? Vote against evil or do nothing?

 

[Broken Arrow]

How about. Are you pagan enough to vote for the lying,corrupt,treasonous,murdering, baby killer hitlery ?

All of my Christian family & friends are or have already voted Trump. Myself included.

Don't be throwing Pagans under the bus on this one!! This Pagan family all voted for Trump.

Why dont you just say "Are you satanic enough to vote for the lying, corrupt, treasonous, murdering, baby killer hitlery" and keep it related to your Christian religion, considering this topic is about Christians.

 

[Bardou]

[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]MY CHRISTIAN FRIENDS WOULD RATHER SEE HILLARY AS PRESIDENT THEN VOTE FOR TRUMP
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By Coach Dave Daubenmire
October 27, 2016
NewsWithViews.com

This election cycle is enough to drive a person crazy. I don’t know if I have ever in my lifetime seen so much confusion about what is happening in America. It is the judgment of God on America.
We are told in 2 Thessalonians that God “would send a strong delusion that they would believe a lie.” Lies rule the day in this nation and sadly, it is God’s people who seem most deceived and confused by what is going on.

I have lost some friends over the past few months because I have come out in support of Donald Trump. These are good people who are angry with me. Warriors, really. Front line activists whom I have, and would, stand shoulder to shoulder with in the defense of the unborn. These are not some Joel Osteen followers. These are committed men and women of God that I have the utmost respect for. Check out the 45 minute video bolow. Mr. Trump addresses people in Charlotte NC. Today.

But they are #nevertrumpers. I am not mad at them because they won’t vote for him. I respect their decisions and I respect their conscience. Far be it from me to judge someone’s Christianity based on a vote in a Presidential election. I trust that they are following their conscience. What grieves me is they don’t trust that I am following mine.

“How can you vote for a strip club owner? How can you cast a vote for a serial adulterer? Trump doesn’t want to protect ALL babies. You are a sellout! You have betrayed all of us in the Pro-life movement."

And those are some of the nicer things they have said…my Christian brothers. It grieves my heart.
I was on the phone with one of them the other day and we had a very cordial discussion. He said he still loves me as a brother…and I believe he does…but he just cannot trust me anymore after being a cheerleader for such a wicked man. He was a strong Ted Cruz supporter in the primaries.

“Let me ask you a few questions,” I said to him over the phone. “When you were supporting Cruz did you agree with all of his positions?”

“Most of them,” he answered. “I believe he was an honest man."

“Ok. I just pulled out Ted’s position paper from the primaries and he listed the following things as important positions.”

1. Repeal and replace Obama Care.
2. The 2nd amendment is absolute and no to gun control legislation.
3. If elected he will nominate pro-life justices to the Supreme Court.
4. If elected he will overturn all of Obama’s illegal executive orders.
5. If elected he would defund Planned Parenthood.
6. He would cut personal income and corporate taxes.
7. He would return educational control to the local school districts.
8. He would block Common Core.
9. He would fight for energy Independence.
10. He would bar refugees from Terrorist nations.

“Do you still support all of those position’s Mike?” I asked.

“Of course I do. Cruz was our best chance to restore Christian values to this nation. I supported him 100%.”

“Are there any of his positions listed above that you could not support, Mike?”

“No. Those would be a good first step in turning this nation around.”

“Well Mike, I hate to burst your bubble but those 10 things listed above are positions that I found on Donald Trump’s website. It seems to me that he and Ted Cruz agree on much of what is needed to rescue this nation. Why can’t you support him?"

“Because I don’t trust him. I don’t think that he actually believes most of those things because he used to be a liberal Democrat. He gave millions to the Democrats.”

“How do you know that if Cruz was elected he would do what he said he would do?"

“Because I trust him. He is a man of integrity. Trump has been all over the place and I don’t trust him."
“Why not support Trump and hold his feet to the fire. Let’s make sure he does what he and Cruz says needs to be done. Maybe he can appoint pro-life judges and end the abortion holocaust."

“I can’t vote for him. He is a serial adulterer. He miss-treats women. He said he has never felt the need to ask God for forgiveness."

“But what if he keeps his word? What if he keeps his word and fights for everything he and Ted Cruz support?"

“Nope. I’m never trump. He just has too much baggage for me. God will hold me accountable for my vote."

“You know Hillary will abort everything that moves. Can’t you vote against her?"

“Nope. I am done voting for the lesser of evils.

“Millions of babies will die if Hillary is elected. Don’t you want to stop that?"

“God is judging America.”

“What if Trump does what he says? Won’t babies live?”

“Trump is pro-abortion. He has been his whole life."

“So what is your solution? What’s your plan to end abortion, Mike?

“Pray and trust God.”

“Can’t you vote for Trump, pray, and trust God to change his heart?

“He’ll never change. I am not voting for a strip-club owner.”

I guess I am missing something. What is it I am supposed to trust God to do…?

SOURCE: http://newswithviews.com/Daubenmire/dave486.htm​

How can a Christian vote for evil? Leave prayer out of it because if Hillary wins, you don't have a prayer left. Look in the mirror and start asking why you're so ignorant.​

 

[AuEagle]

Don't be throwing Pagans under the bus on this one!! This Pagan family all voted for Trump.

Why dont you just say "Are you satanic enough to vote for the lying, corrupt, treasonous, murdering, baby killer hitlery" and keep it related to your Christian religion, considering this topic is about Christians.

Changed it.

 

[LightEcho]

Those who say that only God can judge Trump have no problem with judging those who may not vote for him. Which gives us:
---Trump, who only God can judge, and
---the rest of us, for whom apparently God delegated our judgment to a bunch of people on a discussion board.

Makes total sense to me.

I don't recall anyone saying ONLY God can judge Trump. If you are referring to my post, I said Trump's life is not finished yet and he is allowed to change his course. A dirtbag years ago? Yes. But still nowhere near the level of the Clintons. Is he a changed man now? I think so. I think he has been given the mantle of bringing judgment to the American people. In Trump's very existence there is a clear force that forces all to choose left or right. The devil is working hard to confuse the choice.
But it is real simple: Hillary -the liar, deceiver, conspirator, traitor, rapist enabler, secrets divulger, sell-out, greedy self-aggrandizer, baby murdering abortionist, anti-constitution enemy of the people, hater of christians and law upholders, wicked being.

or- Trump - the one promising to right many of the wrongs and already taking on many good people to carry out that plan.

 

[Seabear]

I want to weigh in on this as Christian who has at times skipped an election or two after the decent candidates were sandbagged in the primaries and the scum like the Bushes were elected or appointed by the GOPe.

I was involved in politics at a young age and got to see much of what has been revealed in this election particularly the Nevertrumpers and GOPe tactics.

I saw almost all of it at the local levels in several cities and states in the early late 80's and early 90's. The "CHURCH" meaning voting church goers and politically active pastors were used time and time again to wage a vote for this douche who is a good Republican meaning anointed by the party elite or if they did not get who they wanted they would tell their folks to stay home....

Sound familiar 25 plus years later????

There are many I met in these goings on who were wolves in sheep's clothing though publicly lauded... The things I heard and saw behind closed doors made me drop out of political involvement and most church going for nearly 20 years....

"Be not amazed my brethren as Satan himself poses as an angel of light... 2 Corinthians 11:14

Here's the deal. NeverTrumpers in the Church would apply that to Trump and those around him, but in reality it should be applied to their gate keepers, and them, if the shoe fits...

The GOPe since Bush Sr. has bought off the church continually through its leaders to get people to vote or stay home.

This time is no different only this time a blind & deaf man could see the stark choice of good vs. evil in this election.....

None are with excuse. You either embrace pure evil in Hillary by voting for her directly or indirectly by staying home, or vote a very remarkable but somewhat flawed man to immediately reverse course.

You/we all know Trump is flawed and he NEVER said otherwise, but you don't get to judge him and let your own suspect motives hide behind holiness and righteousness....

 

[blueinterceptor]

Who would vote for socialism? Progressive democrats are socialists.

 

[pinkelsteinsmom]

I want to weigh in on this as Christian who has at times skipped an election or two after the decent candidates were sandbagged in the primaries and the scum like the Bushes were elected or appointed by the GOPe.

I was involved in politics at a young age and got to see much of what has been revealed in this election particularly the Nevertrumpers and GOPe tactics.

I saw almost all of it at the local levels in several cities and states in the early late 80's and early 90's. The "CHURCH" meaning voting church goers and politically active pastors were used time and time again to wage a vote for this douche who is a good Republican meaning anointed by the party elite or if they did not get who they wanted they would tell their folks to stay home....

Sound familiar 25 plus years later????

There are many I met in these goings on who were wolves in sheep's clothing though publicly lauded... The things I heard and saw behind closed doors made me drop out of political involvement and most church going for nearly 20 years....

"Be not amazed my brethren as Satan himself poses as an angel of light... 2 Corinthians 11:14

Here's the deal. NeverTrumpers in the Church would apply that to Trump and those around him, but in reality it should be applied to their gate keepers, and them, if the shoe fits...

The GOPe since Bush Sr. has bought off the church continually through its leaders to get people to vote or stay home.

This time is no different only this time a blind & deaf man could see the stark choice of good vs. evil in this election.....

None are with excuse. You either embrace pure evil in Hillary by voting for her directly or indirectly by staying home, or vote a very remarkable but somewhat flawed man to immediately reverse course.

You/we all know Trump is flawed and he NEVER said otherwise, but you don't get to judge him and let your own suspect motives hide behind holiness and righteousness....

this

 

[thompson]

Well said, Seabear.

 

[Border Guns]

Some very excellent thinking on this subject. Wish I was as articulate when the need arose.

 

[TammyinWI]

I'm still voting for TRUMP.

ILLUMINATI?

IF ANYONE IS ILLUMINATI.....ITS HILLARY AND BILL.

Of course they are...did you watch the video with all of the footage of Trump? He said he is against guns, and he is for single-payer, and he is pro-choice and that he believes in partial birth abortion. During the 3rd presidential debate, the only thing he said he was against in re: to partial birth abortion was killing the baby days before birth...that was it, and he repeated that point. Never said he is against abortion, just killing the baby 4, 5, or 6 days before it is to be born, is wrong...he said.

 

[TammyinWI]

There is something seriously wrong with you.

For posting a video that has several segments of Trump saying ON TAPE many things that are against Christian principles, and the Constitution of the US?...(correction: FUSA.)

 

[TammyinWI]

I image that very few (if any) on here would argue with you on that point. I wish there was a way for posters to ban certain people from certain threads.

So it is ok for someone to bring up a valid point, but it is not ok for someone (with conviction, proof, and evidence) to post a conflicting view with valid points?

 

[TammyinWI]

I think we are in the end times - but I also think that anybody who does not do their part - to stop evil - will be held accountable.

Call me silly but not voting for Trump is in reality - actively working for evil.

Not exactly sure how God views those who are working for Satan.



As has been said before it's either Trump or were done.

Did you watch the video I posted?

 

[TammyinWI]

My personal take:

1. This is NOT the election to vote your conscience. That was the last 5 elections, when we all "held our nose". In my mind, there is NO choice this time. Trump or death to the nation (and possibly/probably self).

2. I keep asking myself how many "Christians" think they are "helping" God by bringing in the last days. (IF they would only accept that when the end times come is in God's hand, not ours.)

3. I agree with so many others. Trump is flawed. But guess what - so are WE. God equips the called. If Trump is called, he WILL be equipped.

I have to say that it is a darn rotten shame that the churches have failed, for decades, the churches have failed. There wouldn't have been prayer taken out of schools, Roe v. Wade, sodomites allowed in the boy scouts, legalized gay marriage (to name a few) if they hadn't been...lukewarm...all these years.

 

[TerryK]

Long succession of incompetent professional politicians who have a track result of zero in the political arena. Whatever good happens in the USA has nothing whatsoever to do with Professional Politicians, they just preside over it and take the credit or otherwise.

This is actually the crux of the whole matter.

Politicians really don't make things better. They don't produce anything. They only have the ability to make things worse or less worse.

The only way that things get better is to the extent that politicians get out of the way of innovators, inventors and producers in society.

 

[intowolves]

He's certainly no polished politician. No question about that. Trump was the only non-establishment candidate running. I am now old enough to have seen a long succession of professional politicians who claim to be conservatives, but continue to vote with the libs. The political class has brought the nation to the edge of economic collapse, and has used its influence to bludgeon Americans into accepting behavior which can only have an extremely negative effect on society.

Trump may not be able to reverse the direction we are going, but the career pols don't even try.

As someone else has posted, when the enemy is at the gates, we need a Patton and a Churchill. It cannot be "business as usual."

I will hold my nose and vote for the guy, but I'm not a fan of his at all. He could end up being a good prez, but he could end up being as bad as hillary. It's the same as last time, he is the least of 2 evils. Extreme danger versus certain destruction is how I see it.

 

[thompson]

For posting a video that has several segments of Trump saying ON TAPE many things that are against Christian principles, and the Constitution of the US?...(correction: FUSA.)

The only thing you consistently prove is that you are

1) a

or

2) a Nutter Supreme™

 

[intowolves]

Name 3 people in America who would be a better pick.

a card board cut out of barney fife would mop
the floor with the hillary, so I'm not sure giving you 3 people is necessary

 

[LightEcho]

Tammy, your concerns are valid and your posting of Trump's words is enlightening. It really shows the WIDE change he supposedly has made in many areas. We can see these changes as a progressive move toward conservative and principled mindset, or these are just clever deceptions to hammer the game down with pretend choices.

If Trump is just playing a game to serve an evil master, he will be judged harder than even Clinton. The weight on Trump's shoulders right now is being supported by God and that weight is also his armor. But if Trump has evil in his heart, that weight will smash him publicly in a most embarrassing and painful way. These are the days of judgment.

 

[Blacknarwhal]

So it is ok for someone to bring up a valid point, but it is not ok for someone (with conviction, proof, and evidence) to post a conflicting view with valid points?

Considering that your "evidence" was a collection of antiquated information that you could only back up with "I believe he hasn't changed," couched in a collection of deliberately unnerving images and music better themed for a horror movie, and presented by a videomaker who's using the deliberate misspelling of "soldier" that's commonly used in the rap community, you really shouldn't be surprised that most consider your "evidence" to be "propaganda."

 

[Vtshooter]

Did you watch the video I posted?

That video is the worst example of clip editing since NBC hacked up the 911 tapes after George Zimmerman shot Travon. Bits and pieces of sentences thrown together, without the entire statement, or context in which they were spoken. I understand your concern, but I wouldn't put too much stock in anything posted only on YouTube. Too many folks think they are film makers, and it's all about the number of views, and nothing to do with the content of the material.

As LightEcho pointed out, if Trump is playing a game, he will be harshly judged. Can you imagine the reaction of his supporters, to find out they were conned? He and his entire family would have to spend the rest of their lives in hiding. None of them would be safe.

America has a cancer, and Trump is the chemotherapy. Chemotherapy might kill the cancer, slow it down, or do nothing at all, and will probably make everyone feel like shit in the process. But without the chemo, the cancer is fatal, and death is a sure thing.

 

[TammyinWI]

The only thing you consistently prove is that you are

1) a

or

2) a Nutter Supreme™

No, I read the National Enquirer every week as a child, remembers who had sued them for slander and who hadn't, and I also studied a lot of occult/satanic principles, and my Bible...and I pray a lot...got Baptized two months ago to plant my flag as a Believer in Christ, after repenting...I repent daily, heartfelt repentance...cry out to God every day, and pray daily...oh...

...oh wait: I AM one of those "nutters" that get persecuted in the end times...that the Bible talks about...this is true. It not only happens here, but in real life, too.

 

[TammyinWI]

Tammy, your concerns are valid and your posting of Trump's words is enlightening. It really shows the WIDE change he supposedly has made in many areas. We can see these changes as a progressive move toward conservative and principled mindset, or these are just clever deceptions to hammer the game down with pretend choices.

If Trump is just playing a game to serve an evil master, he will be judged harder than even Clinton. The weight on Trump's shoulders right now is being supported by God and that weight is also his armor. But if Trump has evil in his heart, that weight will smash him publicly in a most embarrassing and painful way. These are the days of judgment.

Trump himself said that he attended those Al Smith "fundraiser dinners" with his dad, and since he was a small child.

Those dinners are for the elite, by the elite, of the elite...and that is not the only thing. But people forget or don't want to consider the fact that the elite are using a lot of deception in their divide and conquer strategy...along with other strategies, to make people feel they still have a choice.

He said himself that he slept around with a bunch of women, therefore that in and of itself is a way that demons enter a person...that in and of itself...that is not the only way. Is he delivered? Has he repented? He says that he ate his little wafer and that is how he asked forgiveness, and that he hasn't asked God for forgiveness...but as a "Nutter Supreme" what do I know???

 

[Laurane]

he has the same enemies as me

Good enough for me.......

 

[Seabear]

but as a "Nutter Supreme" what do I know???

Not much apparently.... You strain the gnat and swallow the camel when it comes to Trump this election cycle. Where are your rants about the rest of the budding govt. illuminists??????

Starting with the GOPe Conservatives.....

 

[LightEcho]

Trump himself said that he attended those Al Smith "fundraiser dinners" with his dad, and since he was a small child.

Those dinners are for the elite, by the elite, of the elite...and that is not the only thing. But people forget or don't want to consider the fact that the elite are using a lot of deception in their divide and conquer strategy...along with other strategies, to make people feel they still have a choice.

So Trump was raised in a rich family. I guess he should be shot, eh? I am sure he should be condemned for having the nerve to be born into that family.

He said himself that he slept around with a bunch of women, therefore that in and of itself is a way that demons enter a person.

I know, right? Women are the injectors of demons like dirty dogs give you fleas. Filthy whores the lot of them. Maybe all women should be shot too.

..that in and of itself...that is not the only way. Is he delivered? Has he repented? He says that he ate his little wafer and that is how he asked forgiveness, and that he hasn't asked God for forgiveness...but as a "Nutter Supreme" what do I know???

Definitely ignorance is something that should be an executionable offense. Trump being dumb needs to be fixed by voting Hillary into office. Thanks for the tip!

Hey, you wouldn't be one of those women things, would you?

 

[summerthyme]

So, Tammy...

Since you've stated that you were a heavy drinker, and made other inappropriate choices when you were younger, I guess we should just disregard anything you say, ever again, because you clearly were an irresponsible sinner years ago?

Or are you telling us YOU can change, but Mr Trump cannot? And YOU have the ability to judge his sincerity?

Summerthyme

 

[L.A.B.]

Let's give the candy coated Christian's the 'benefit of the doubt' and allow them to konsult with their Deacon's DHS advisory as to who to vote for.

 

[pinkelsteinsmom]

Of course they are...did you watch the video with all of the footage of Trump? He said he is against guns, and he is for single-payer, and he is pro-choice and that he believes in partial birth abortion. During the 3rd presidential debate, the only thing he said he was against in re: to partial birth abortion was killing the baby days before birth...that was it, and he repeated that point. Never said he is against abortion, just killing the baby 4, 5, or 6 days before it is to be born, is wrong...he said.

I give you the fruits of the american reprobate church in all it's glory.

Sister you will not only be judged for who you vote for or allow to gain the throne through your non actions, but by how many other people you influenced with your so called "christian" piety.

Most Christians that may truly love GOD and attend church regularly could not even tell you what Christ himself said to do to be saved, they just parrot what some lying stealing man behind a pulpit has said to them regarding the topic. The word warns you to seek out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

Now Tammy, why is your true redemption necessary you ask? Because without true redemption, you will not be infilled with the Holy Spirit and without it you do not have discernment, I fear from your posts you are certainly without it, judging by that video, you may even be working for the other side in fact.

This is not a thread about biblical verses regarding salvation, so please do not respond to this post by doing so and causing thread drift. I am simply trying to explain to Tammy why her thoughts regarding TRUMP as far as a christian vote is way off the mark and to tread lightly, for he may indeed be GODS anointed.

 

[thompson]

No, I read the National Enquirer every week as a child, remembers who had sued them for slander and who hadn't, and I also studied a lot of occult/satanic principles, and my Bible...and I pray a lot...got Baptized two months ago to plant my flag as a Believer in Christ, after repenting...I repent daily, heartfelt repentance...cry out to God every day, and pray daily...oh...

...oh wait: I AM one of those "nutters" that get persecuted in the end times...that the Bible talks about...this is true. It not only happens here, but in real life, too.

You have not the slightest clue what the genuine persecution spoken of in Scripture is.

You're not being called out for being a Christian, get that through your head (if you can).