FOOD Report food & grocery shortages / price increases here: 2022 Edition

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AlaskaSue

North to the Future
Meat, eggs, cheese all way higher that when I went south early May. Gas here is surprisingly exactly where it was in Florida and Utah this month - right around 4.75 to 4.85/gallon reg.

I think I need to go fishing, now that I am back in the state. And I’d love a moose or a couple caribou this hunting season. My smoker was lost in the fire but there’s an old fridge the former owner left out in the back pasture that might work if I can get that re-purposed with everything else going on.

Looking to begin replacing the canning jars and lids also lost in the fire, I priced local - a dozen Kerr pints at 18.95, quarts at 21.95. Boxes of lids are all off-brands that I’ll have to try. Not sure if replacing my big Tattlers stash is worth it - any thoughts? And because I had to give up gardening for the season due to my sojourn south, I’ll be looking to buy local what I’d have grown myself - but I don’t yet know how those prices will look.
 

skwentnaflyer

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Meat, eggs, cheese all way higher that when I went south early May. Gas here is surprisingly exactly where it was in Florida and Utah this month - right around 4.75 to 4.85/gallon reg.

I think I need to go fishing, now that I am back in the state. And I’d love a moose or a couple caribou this hunting season. My smoker was lost in the fire but there’s an old fridge the former owner left out in the back pasture that might work if I can get that re-purposed with everything else going on.

Looking to begin replacing the canning jars and lids also lost in the fire, I priced local - a dozen Kerr pints at 18.95, quarts at 21.95. Boxes of lids are all off-brands that I’ll have to try. Not sure if replacing my big Tattlers stash is worth it - any thoughts? And because I had to give up gardening for the season due to my sojourn south, I’ll be looking to buy local what I’d have grown myself - but I don’t yet know how those prices will look.
Glad you made it back home safely!
 

Wyominglarry

Veteran Member
if we do have a grid down or some other type of life ending disaster and food disappears from the stores, so will fresh water, and the sewage will stop working and disease will kill most everyone in the cities. no water you last three days and with unsafe sanitary conditions you would die within weeks. Food might be the last thing to worry about.
 

nomifyle

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if we do have a grid down or some other type of life ending disaster and food disappears from the stores, so will fresh water, and the sewage will stop working and disease will kill most everyone in the cities. no water you last three days and with unsafe sanitary conditions you would die within weeks. Food might be the last thing to worry about.
That's why people prepare, the ones that have their head in the sand won't make it.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Watching Hairy's Best of British Cooking and they’re going on and on about the excess of food in the US after WW2. Umm no. Then they go on and on about Swanson’s excess turkeys which gave birth to the TV dinner.

Me I’m like umm no, that’s rationing at its finest! Every time there’s a huge economic downturn there’s a push for Americans to buy prepackaged food under the guise of it being healthy. Nope that’s rationing at its finest.
 
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Lei

Veteran Member
if we do have a grid down or some other type of life ending disaster and food disappears from the stores, so will fresh water, and the sewage will stop working and disease will kill most everyone in the cities. no water you last three days and with unsafe sanitary conditions you would die within weeks. Food might be the last thing to worry about.
I think the Nuclear plants melt down 30 days after power out will definitely take the population way down.
There is only 30 days of diesel to run generators to cool the rods , I have been told.
 

anna43

Veteran Member
In our larger cities, I think deaths will be epidemic without power, no water, no sewer, no way to cook. Living on an upper floor, no way to get down and back up. Nowhere to go for safety. No way to evacuate with the millions of other people.

Out in the flyover area so scorned by said city dwellers, survival will be a little longer for those prepared, but not for the unprepared. I have no illusions that long-term survival will be an option for the majority of us.
 

raven

TB Fanatic
My daughter is staying with us a while. Her car has been in the shop for 6 weeks. I don't go anywhere.
So she talked sweetie into a going on a shopping trip.
These two are ruining my gas budget plus I have to take em.

So, I drop em off at a little shopping mall and they cheerfully tell me that I can go hang out at the tractor supply.
Great.
I wander around the store and notice they had a display with T-Shirts. Various colors. I lift one up and it is $7.99.
So, I get 2 in size 2XL.
We get home and sweetie tells me that I don't wear a 2XL, So I say I'll take em back.
Daughter asks me if I have the receipt. I whip it out. and look at it.
It has one shirt at $12.99 and the other at $8.99.
I must be getting old, because I wasn't even pissed off.

So, I take the shirts back to exchange them.
The clerk had this excuse already prepared. "All the new shirts coming in are $8.99"
So, the shirt marked $7.99 was $8.99 but the shirt marked $12.99 was still $12.99.
All exactly the same shirts, different colors and different sizes.
Some blue shirts were marked $7.99 and rang up at $8.99 some blue shirts were $12.99 and rang up at $12.99.

Pretty F'ed Up. I kept the receipts - cheap lesson.
 

Marseydoats

Veteran Member
My daughter is staying with us a while. Her car has been in the shop for 6 weeks. I don't go anywhere.
So she talked sweetie into a going on a shopping trip.
These two are ruining my gas budget plus I have to take em.

So, I drop em off at a little shopping mall and they cheerfully tell me that I can go hang out at the tractor supply.
Great.
I wander around the store and notice they had a display with T-Shirts. Various colors. I lift one up and it is $7.99.
So, I get 2 in size 2XL.
We get home and sweetie tells me that I don't wear a 2XL, So I say I'll take em back.
Daughter asks me if I have the receipt. I whip it out. and look at it.
It has one shirt at $12.99 and the other at $8.99.
I must be getting old, because I wasn't even pissed off.

So, I take the shirts back to exchange them.
The clerk had this excuse already prepared. "All the new shirts coming in are $8.99"
So, the shirt marked $7.99 was $8.99 but the shirt marked $12.99 was still $12.99.
All exactly the same shirts, different colors and different sizes.
Some blue shirts were marked $7.99 and rang up at $8.99 some blue shirts were $12.99 and rang up at $12.99.

Pretty F'ed Up. I kept the receipts - cheap lesson.

That's illegal in quite a few states. Here they legally have to sell it to you for the price on the shelf. I don't go into TS very often, but the clerks there hate me. All of their boots are mis-priced. ;)
 

h_oder

Veteran Member
Wanted to buy some ground beef & bacon..going price around me (NW Indianapolis area) - Regular price for 80/20 is $5.50 - $6.00 per pound. Ugh! Ended up buying 10 lb from Gordon Food Service for $3.50/lb Tried buying bacon lately? Let alone worry about limits. Was able to get 3lb from GFS for $15. No, it's not the same quality as the local farmer's bacon, but I can't afford 8-10/lb for stocking up purposes (I'll save those discretionary funds for "special" meals) Glad I have a FoodSaver.
 

Zahra

Veteran Member
My thought is..if it's long term like 3-4 years, there won't be nothing in the stores, some will still be available, and best to blend in by buying some of it. Think WWII rationing. It was mostly meat, fats, sugar, coffee, chocolate...the stuff the military needed or what wasn't produced here onshore. Fresh vegetables and domestic fruit wasn't really a problem. I doubt flour, rice, dry beans because we grew in abundance. Not sure about dry pasta, but people didn't eat pasta back then like they do now.

Anyway, I think it's wise to try to judge what will be a problem this next time, My guess - meat (cost!), processed foods (shortages both labor and packaging/processing)..and I mean anything that takes processing...from pasta, to popular canned goods, mixes, frozen foods/meals, breakfast cereal, drinks, pet food. Transportation is gonna be a wild card thrown in. If you live far from the source, good luck.

Meat (of all sorts) definitely, but don't forget the water shortages, weather challenges, and the reduced fertilizer inputs this time which will have an impact on crop production. So in addition to storing proteins folks may want to preserve veggies, fruits, and add wheat berries (and a grinder) to their preps if they haven't already. Sure, it's not as convenient as buying box mixes or ready made bread etc, but with various types of wheat you can make your own.
 

WalknTrot

Veteran Member
Tried buying bacon lately? Let alone worry about limits. Was able to get 3lb from GFS for $15. No, it's not the same quality as the local farmer's bacon, but I can't afford 8-10/lb for stocking up purposes (I'll save those discretionary funds for "special" meals) Glad I have a FoodSaver.

Yeeks...no kidding. Just for grins, I bought & tried what used to be excellent quality, regional brand (Elliots), supposedly thick sliced bacon the other day at the store for a decent price...can't remember, but around $5.00/lb. I never saw bacon like it.

It pulled out of the package like strips of overcooked pasta, see-through thin slices, the fat was slimy and noodley, hardly any meat, and fried up terribly. If that's what passes for commercially processed and packaged bacon these days...well..it's enough to get a person to swear off bacon. Granted I've been spoiled by the local butcher shop, as theirs is hand brined and smoked on site, custom sliced to order off the slab on the spot, and the fat is hard...like lard is supposed to be! Goes on sale now for around $6.00/lb and it's what I've been buying regularly for years.

I feel for folks who only have the brand-name stuff available. It's apparently awful along with being stupid expensive.
 

Cohickman

Veteran Member
For the regular Items I get on a biweekly basis. June cost 289. Today 370. Normal stuff. Cheese, eggs, chicken (frozen), produce, canned soup, granola type bars. Great Value frozen chicken now $11 for 3 lbs.

Just Building Back Better!!
But it was already fixed when you stole the election jackass! FJB!
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Not food but tools. Went to Lowes to get some Channellock brand pliers. They had older stock and newer stock on the wall. Exactly the same item, packaging and product. Old stock $17.98 new stock $25.98.

If you have the money to buy non perishable goods, now is the time to do it.

Since I've recently taken up metalsmithing, in the past three years, I've been buying a bunch of hand tools from teh various types of hammers one needs including forming hammers and stakes, to pliers, side cutters, flush cutters, tin cutters, etc. So glad I have what I need in house now, everything has either doubled or tripled in price, or you can no longer buy those items.
 

AlaskaSue

North to the Future
Do flat rate USPS boxes include Alaska in their flat rate area or is it just continental United States?
Yes, that does work here - but I often have to let the seller know this is an option! Sometimes they’ll change to that, but not always cuz they already have their system ~ Flat rate is much less expensive for the buyer, since other shipping prices can be as much as the goods; and very often up to double the price.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
So today for lunch I had OC bring one of those continental hams up from the pantry, and I turned it into ham salad sammies. One 12 ounce can makes four sammies if you add other stuff to the mix, I added relish and onion. He looked at me and said "so I guess I should go buy you six more cans of canned ham?" Yes please!

Hopefully Walgreens will have them back in stock tomorrow. Sure wish we could get the DAK hams here locally for a good price, WM wants $11 and some change for a one pound canned ham.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
OC did tell me that Aldi was out of grapes yesterday, which sucks because I love putting them on my salads this time of the year, especially watermelon salad topped off with feta cheese, basil, and mint.
 

SouthernBreeze

Has No Life - Lives on TB
My grocery budget has increased by at least $400 a month, and I raise quite a bit on the farm, as well as use coupons. It's crazy.

Yeah, mine has gone up, too. I buy groceries twice a month, averaging around $400-$450 every 2 weeks! The $366 that I just spent meant it came down a bit this time. I could not spend that amount twice a WEEK, though.
 

FireDance

TB Fanatic
Biweekly = $370?!!!!!! OMG! I buy bimonthly, and I thought my $366 was bad!
Wow! What do you buy?

Another question is: do you consider personal care items and paper stuff as groceries?

Just curious. I would LOVE to drop down to that amount at the grocery. All I can say is GREAT JOB!!
 

Night Owl

Veteran Member
Just hear report that India may not export RICE a this year because of their own shortages, so get rice, now. As I have shown before that Arkansas produces 49% or all domestic rice produced in this country, so we should be fine this winter if the government doesn’t export it.

I heard from a local farmer, so this might be hearsay, that the Rice grown in Southeast Arkansas is already bought & ready to go down the Mississippi River to be shipped out to China.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Another question is: do you consider personal care items and paper stuff as groceries?

Yes, I consider this part of groceries and also include pet food, and cleaning supplies, into the amount. We shop weekly for fresh stuff, and then quarterly for the other items like laundry soap, TP, PT, trash bags, and bulk food items.

This time around for quarterly shopping, because we didn't need much of the usual suspects, I bought a four different types of dried chili peppers from Amazon, and seeds for sprouting and for microgreens from Sprout People.

Now that I have the chili peppers, I can make some of those dishes that Patti makes on her show that OC keeps saying "I'd eat that".

Well you will now that I have the right kinds of chili peppers, spices, and also a new mortar for my molcajete. Am learning how to make all sorts of bean, corn, and squash dishes, three things we love, served with rice and a minimal amount of meat protein, thanks to Patti's Mexican Table, and the cooks I'm following on YouTube.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Just hear report that India may not export RICE a this year because of their own shortages, so get rice, now. As I have shown before that Arkansas produces 49% or all domestic rice produced in this country, so we should be fine this winter if the government doesn’t export it.

I heard from a local farmer, so this might be hearsay, that the Rice grown in Southeast Arkansas is already bought & ready to go down the Mississippi River to be shipped out to China.

Thanks for the heads up, we eat a LOT of jasmine rice in this house, what we get comes from Thailand and is certified organic... and in Thailand that means it wasn't fertilized with human poop.
 

Rebel_Yell

Senior Member
Old folks like me are easily confused.


On 'Biweekly' and 'Bimonthly'
Sorry, not sorry

What to Know
Biweekly and bimonthly can mean the same thing because of the prefix bi-, which here can mean “occurring every two” or “occurring twice in.” Therefore, biweekly can be “twice in a week” or “every other week.” Bimonthly can also mean "every other week" if it's twice in a month, or it can mean “every other month.”

Look up the adjective biweekly in this dictionary and you will see it defined as "occurring every two weeks" AND as "occurring twice a week." Similarly, the adjective bimonthly is defined as "occurring every two months" AND as "occurring twice a month."
For this, we are sorry. But we don't mean "sorry" in the sense that we feel penitence; we are not to blame. We mean "sorry" in the sense that we feel a kind of sorrow aroused by circumstances beyond our control or power to repair.

For, as anyone who pays attention to our work surely recognizes, we are at the mercy of the language. We diligently record the English lexicon in both its measured expansions and its wild proliferations, and any insistence by us that it favor the former over the latter is as whispers into a gale. Biweekly and bimonthly each have a pair of meanings that are unhelpfully at odds with one another. Those meanings exist, and we cannot ignore them.

The problem lies in the prefix bi-: it means (among other things) both "coming or occurring every two," AND "coming or occurring two times." This too is a long-established fact that we cannot ignore. English is sometimes simply obstreperous.

However intractable the English language may at times be, it can be helpful to remember just the many cases in which the language is not ambiguous, in which its offerings include words that refer to precise gradations or fine distinctions.

One such case, sort of, is very similar to the cases at hand: the language offers us biannual for "twice a year" and biennial for "every two years." This is useful and elegant, but, alas, also frequently botched, with biannual so frequently used to mean "every two years" that we've had to enter that meaning in our dictionaries. But here another solution is readily available: skip biannual altogether and use in its place the common semiannual.

Ah, semi-! Just as a semicircle cuts a circle in half, so too does the prefix semi- semantically cut what it is affixed to in half: semiweekly means unambiguously two times per week; semimonthly means two times per month; semiannual means two times per year. It's an excellent option, and one that many writers seem to embrace; we most often see bimonthly and biweekly reserved for their "every two" meanings.

Another solution is to avoid the bi- compounds altogether and come right out with it: "twice a week," "every other month."

As writer or speaker, you can choose to avoid ambiguity by using a semi- compound when you mean "two times per," or by using a phrase instead of a single word. In fact, so fraught is this territory that you'd do well to make sure that your context explains just what you mean when you use any of these bi- compounds: "Employees are paid bimonthly, on the first and third Fridays of the month."
But what about when you're at the mercy of English as it's wielded by others? Well, when you are a reader or listener, we're afraid the best you can do is to approach biweekly and bimonthly with a bit of side-eye—and perhaps the kind of sorrow aroused by circumstances beyond your control or power to repair.
 

SouthernBreeze

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I buy regular groceries twice a month. I buy from Sam's twice a month. Hope that clears up any confusion from my earlier comments. $400-$450 each time twice a month regular groceries, and $200+ each time twice a month at Sam's.

edited to add.....This also includes extra food and items for storage. Dog food and treats, too.
 
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WalknTrot

Veteran Member
I buy regular groceries twice a month. I buy from Sam's twice a month. Hope that clears up any confusion from my earlier comments. $400-$450 each time twice a month regular groceries, and $200+ each time twice a month at Sam's.

When you guys start throwing numbers like that around, you gotta give a general indication of how many mouths you are feeding! :lol:
 
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