ALERT RUSSIA INVADES UKRAINE - Consolidated Thread

EMICT

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Josie said:
Am I the only one feeling a little discomfort with all the sales and gifting of our military equipment and technology? Do we have better and more sophisticated in the pipes and we're selling/gifting our old stuff? Do we have any assurances that there is enough here in CONUS to defend us and the presents won't be used against us in the future? JMHO...this administration and their minions in Congress would sell their mother to the highest bidder to increase their personal wealth.
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You have to remember that the total destruction of the USA is a priority for the globalists
 
Zagdid

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Exclusive-U.S. Aims to Arm Ukraine With Advanced Anti-Ship Missiles to Fight Russian Blockade

By Reuters
May 19, 2022, at 12:30 p.m.


By Mike Stone
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The White House is working to put advanced anti-ship missiles in the hands of Ukrainian fighters to help defeat Russia's naval blockade, officials said, amid concerns more powerful weapons that could sink Russian warships would intensify the conflict.

Ukraine has made no secret it wants more advanced U.S. capabilities beyond its current inventory of artillery, Javelin and Stinger missiles, and other arms. Kyiv's list, for example, includes missiles that could push the Russian navy away from its Black Sea ports, allowing the restart of shipments of grain and other agricultural products worldwide.

Current and former U.S. officials and congressional sources have cited roadblocks to sending longer range, more powerful weapons to Ukraine that include lengthy training requirements, difficulties maintaining equipment, or concerns U.S. weaponry could be captured by Russian forces, in addition to the fear of escalation.

But three U.S. officials and two congressional sources said two types of powerful anti-ship missiles, the Harpoon made by Boeing and the Naval Strike Missile made by Kongsberg and Raytheon Technologies were in active consideration for either direct shipment to Ukraine, or through a transfer from a European ally that has the missiles.

In April, Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelenskiy appealed to Portugal to provide the Ukrainian military with Harpoons, which have a range of up to almost 300 km.

But there are several issues keeping Ukraine from receiving the missiles. For one, there is limited availability of platforms to launch Harpoons from shore -- a technically challenging solution according to several officials -- as it is mostly a sea-based missile.

Two U.S. officials said the United States was working on potential solutions that included pulling a launcher off of a U.S. ship.

About 20 Russian Navy vessels, including submarines, are in the Black Sea operational zone, the British defense ministry has said.

Bryan Clark, a naval expert at the Hudson Institute, said 12 to 24 anti-ship missiles like the Harpoon with ranges over 100 km would be enough to threaten Russian ships and could convince Moscow to lift the blockade. "If Putin persists, Ukraine could take out the largest Russian ships, since they have nowhere to hide in the Black Sea," Clark said.

Russia has already suffered losses at sea, notably the sinking of the cruiser Moskva, the flagship of its Black Sea fleet.

WHO GOES FIRST?
A handful of countries would be willing to send Harpoons to Ukraine, the U.S. officials and the congressional sources said. But no one wants to be the first or only nation to do so, fearing reprisals from Russia if a ship is sunk with a Harpoon from their stockpile, the third U.S official said.

That U.S. official said one country is considering being the first to supply the missile to Ukraine. Once that "well stocked" nation commits to sending Harpoons, others might follow, the official said.

The Naval Strike Missile (NSM) can be launched from the Ukrainian coast and has a range of 250 km. It also takes less than 14 days training to operate.

The sources said NSMs were viewed as less logistically difficult than Harpoons, because NATO allies could loan mobile ground launchers which are available, and warheads from Norway.

The first two U.S. officials and the congressional sources said the United States was trying to work out a way for Ukraine to obtain NSM and launchers from European allies.

The congressional sources said another option would be for Norway to donate NSMs to Ukraine, an idea supported by Norwegian members of parliament https://mil.in.ua/en/news/norwegian...ir-defense-and-nsm-strike-missiles-to-ukraine. The Norwegian Ministry of Defense declined to comment on what additional contributions of arms and defense equipment it may consider offering to Ukraine.

All weapons requests that have U.S. content such as Harpoons and NSMs would have to be approved by the U.S. State Department, which takes guidance from the White House.

Another weapon high on Ukraine's shopping list are Multiple Rocket Launch Systems (MLRS) such as the M270 made by Lockheed Martin which can strike a target 70 or more kilometers away, a three-fold increase over many of their current howitzer rounds.

In recent weeks, the Biden administration decided instead to send M777 towed howitzers which could be deployed faster and shipped in larger quantities, the two U.S. officials said.

The two U.S. officials said the M270 or similar system like the M142 HIMARS would be considered for shipment to Ukraine once Congress passed a $40 billion supplemental funding bill that would authorize an additional $11 billion worth of Presidential Drawdown Authority. That lets the president authorize the transfer of excess weapons from U.S. stocks without congressional approval in response to an emergency.
 
wait-n-see

wait-n-see

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Zagdid said:

Exclusive-U.S. Aims to Arm Ukraine With Advanced Anti-Ship Missiles to Fight Russian Blockade

By Reuters
May 19, 2022, at 12:30 p.m.


By Mike Stone
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The White House is working to put advanced anti-ship missiles in the hands of Ukrainian fighters to help defeat Russia's naval blockade, officials said, amid concerns more powerful weapons that could sink Russian warships would intensify the conflict.

Ukraine has made no secret it wants more advanced U.S. capabilities beyond its current inventory of artillery, Javelin and Stinger missiles, and other arms. Kyiv's list, for example, includes missiles that could push the Russian navy away from its Black Sea ports, allowing the restart of shipments of grain and other agricultural products worldwide.

Current and former U.S. officials and congressional sources have cited roadblocks to sending longer range, more powerful weapons to Ukraine that include lengthy training requirements, difficulties maintaining equipment, or concerns U.S. weaponry could be captured by Russian forces, in addition to the fear of escalation.

But three U.S. officials and two congressional sources said two types of powerful anti-ship missiles, the Harpoon made by Boeing and the Naval Strike Missile made by Kongsberg and Raytheon Technologies were in active consideration for either direct shipment to Ukraine, or through a transfer from a European ally that has the missiles.

In April, Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelenskiy appealed to Portugal to provide the Ukrainian military with Harpoons, which have a range of up to almost 300 km.

But there are several issues keeping Ukraine from receiving the missiles. For one, there is limited availability of platforms to launch Harpoons from shore -- a technically challenging solution according to several officials -- as it is mostly a sea-based missile.

Two U.S. officials said the United States was working on potential solutions that included pulling a launcher off of a U.S. ship.

About 20 Russian Navy vessels, including submarines, are in the Black Sea operational zone, the British defense ministry has said.

Bryan Clark, a naval expert at the Hudson Institute, said 12 to 24 anti-ship missiles like the Harpoon with ranges over 100 km would be enough to threaten Russian ships and could convince Moscow to lift the blockade. "If Putin persists, Ukraine could take out the largest Russian ships, since they have nowhere to hide in the Black Sea," Clark said.

Russia has already suffered losses at sea, notably the sinking of the cruiser Moskva, the flagship of its Black Sea fleet.

WHO GOES FIRST?
A handful of countries would be willing to send Harpoons to Ukraine, the U.S. officials and the congressional sources said. But no one wants to be the first or only nation to do so, fearing reprisals from Russia if a ship is sunk with a Harpoon from their stockpile, the third U.S official said.

That U.S. official said one country is considering being the first to supply the missile to Ukraine. Once that "well stocked" nation commits to sending Harpoons, others might follow, the official said.

The Naval Strike Missile (NSM) can be launched from the Ukrainian coast and has a range of 250 km. It also takes less than 14 days training to operate.

The sources said NSMs were viewed as less logistically difficult than Harpoons, because NATO allies could loan mobile ground launchers which are available, and warheads from Norway.

The first two U.S. officials and the congressional sources said the United States was trying to work out a way for Ukraine to obtain NSM and launchers from European allies.

The congressional sources said another option would be for Norway to donate NSMs to Ukraine, an idea supported by Norwegian members of parliament https://mil.in.ua/en/news/norwegian...ir-defense-and-nsm-strike-missiles-to-ukraine. The Norwegian Ministry of Defense declined to comment on what additional contributions of arms and defense equipment it may consider offering to Ukraine.

All weapons requests that have U.S. content such as Harpoons and NSMs would have to be approved by the U.S. State Department, which takes guidance from the White House.

Another weapon high on Ukraine's shopping list are Multiple Rocket Launch Systems (MLRS) such as the M270 made by Lockheed Martin which can strike a target 70 or more kilometers away, a three-fold increase over many of their current howitzer rounds.

In recent weeks, the Biden administration decided instead to send M777 towed howitzers which could be deployed faster and shipped in larger quantities, the two U.S. officials said.

The two U.S. officials said the M270 or similar system like the M142 HIMARS would be considered for shipment to Ukraine once Congress passed a $40 billion supplemental funding bill that would authorize an additional $11 billion worth of Presidential Drawdown Authority. That lets the president authorize the transfer of excess weapons from U.S. stocks without congressional approval in response to an emergency.
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Some options for the Russians include .....

Missiles placed in the right spots in a port will shut down any ship handling capacity for quite a long time.

Anti-ship missiles are no good against submarines or mines.
 
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Housecarl

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wait-n-see said:
Some options for the Russians include .....

Missiles placed in the right spots in a port will shut down any ship handling capacity for quite a long time.

Anti-ship missiles are no good against submarines or mines.
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True, but those SSKs have to surface and resupply sometime....
 
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Housecarl

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Zagdid said:

Exclusive-U.S. Aims to Arm Ukraine With Advanced Anti-Ship Missiles to Fight Russian Blockade

By Reuters
May 19, 2022, at 12:30 p.m.


By Mike Stone
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The White House is working to put advanced anti-ship missiles in the hands of Ukrainian fighters to help defeat Russia's naval blockade, officials said, amid concerns more powerful weapons that could sink Russian warships would intensify the conflict.

Ukraine has made no secret it wants more advanced U.S. capabilities beyond its current inventory of artillery, Javelin and Stinger missiles, and other arms. Kyiv's list, for example, includes missiles that could push the Russian navy away from its Black Sea ports, allowing the restart of shipments of grain and other agricultural products worldwide.

Current and former U.S. officials and congressional sources have cited roadblocks to sending longer range, more powerful weapons to Ukraine that include lengthy training requirements, difficulties maintaining equipment, or concerns U.S. weaponry could be captured by Russian forces, in addition to the fear of escalation.

But three U.S. officials and two congressional sources said two types of powerful anti-ship missiles, the Harpoon made by Boeing and the Naval Strike Missile made by Kongsberg and Raytheon Technologies were in active consideration for either direct shipment to Ukraine, or through a transfer from a European ally that has the missiles.

In April, Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelenskiy appealed to Portugal to provide the Ukrainian military with Harpoons, which have a range of up to almost 300 km.

But there are several issues keeping Ukraine from receiving the missiles. For one, there is limited availability of platforms to launch Harpoons from shore -- a technically challenging solution according to several officials -- as it is mostly a sea-based missile.

Two U.S. officials said the United States was working on potential solutions that included pulling a launcher off of a U.S. ship.

About 20 Russian Navy vessels, including submarines, are in the Black Sea operational zone, the British defense ministry has said.

Bryan Clark, a naval expert at the Hudson Institute, said 12 to 24 anti-ship missiles like the Harpoon with ranges over 100 km would be enough to threaten Russian ships and could convince Moscow to lift the blockade. "If Putin persists, Ukraine could take out the largest Russian ships, since they have nowhere to hide in the Black Sea," Clark said.

Russia has already suffered losses at sea, notably the sinking of the cruiser Moskva, the flagship of its Black Sea fleet.

WHO GOES FIRST?
A handful of countries would be willing to send Harpoons to Ukraine, the U.S. officials and the congressional sources said. But no one wants to be the first or only nation to do so, fearing reprisals from Russia if a ship is sunk with a Harpoon from their stockpile, the third U.S official said.

That U.S. official said one country is considering being the first to supply the missile to Ukraine. Once that "well stocked" nation commits to sending Harpoons, others might follow, the official said.

The Naval Strike Missile (NSM) can be launched from the Ukrainian coast and has a range of 250 km. It also takes less than 14 days training to operate.

The sources said NSMs were viewed as less logistically difficult than Harpoons, because NATO allies could loan mobile ground launchers which are available, and warheads from Norway.

The first two U.S. officials and the congressional sources said the United States was trying to work out a way for Ukraine to obtain NSM and launchers from European allies.

The congressional sources said another option would be for Norway to donate NSMs to Ukraine, an idea supported by Norwegian members of parliament https://mil.in.ua/en/news/norwegian...ir-defense-and-nsm-strike-missiles-to-ukraine. The Norwegian Ministry of Defense declined to comment on what additional contributions of arms and defense equipment it may consider offering to Ukraine.

All weapons requests that have U.S. content such as Harpoons and NSMs would have to be approved by the U.S. State Department, which takes guidance from the White House.

Another weapon high on Ukraine's shopping list are Multiple Rocket Launch Systems (MLRS) such as the M270 made by Lockheed Martin which can strike a target 70 or more kilometers away, a three-fold increase over many of their current howitzer rounds.

In recent weeks, the Biden administration decided instead to send M777 towed howitzers which could be deployed faster and shipped in larger quantities, the two U.S. officials said.

The two U.S. officials said the M270 or similar system like the M142 HIMARS would be considered for shipment to Ukraine once Congress passed a $40 billion supplemental funding bill that would authorize an additional $11 billion worth of Presidential Drawdown Authority. That lets the president authorize the transfer of excess weapons from U.S. stocks without congressional approval in response to an emergency.
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Check out this week's WoW thread about long range artillery and missile systems.
 
wait-n-see

wait-n-see

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Housecarl said:
True, but those SSKs have to surface and resupply sometime....
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No problem at all for the Russian navy as they do have the necessary elements and support for the action from their Naval base.

The insurance companies will not back the sailing of the merchant ships thru that type of war hostile environment where either ships are being sunk or there is no ability to onload onto ships.
 
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Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
wait-n-see said:
No problem at all for the Russian navy as they do have the necessary elements and support for the action from their Naval base.

The insurance companies will not back the sailing of the merchant ships thru that type of war hostile environment where either ships are being sunk or there is no ability to onload onto ships.
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The Black Sea, Baltic and any other littoral areas are now proven to be confined shooting galleries.
 
Shadow

Shadow

Swift, Silent,...Sleepy
Zagdid said:

Exclusive-U.S. Aims to Arm Ukraine With Advanced Anti-Ship Missiles to Fight Russian Blockade

By Reuters
May 19, 2022, at 12:30 p.m.


By Mike Stone
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The White House is working to put advanced anti-ship missiles in the hands of Ukrainian fighters to help defeat Russia's naval blockade, officials said, amid concerns more powerful weapons that could sink Russian warships would intensify the conflict.

Ukraine has made no secret it wants more advanced U.S. capabilities beyond its current inventory of artillery, Javelin and Stinger missiles, and other arms. Kyiv's list, for example, includes missiles that could push the Russian navy away from its Black Sea ports, allowing the restart of shipments of grain and other agricultural products worldwide.

Current and former U.S. officials and congressional sources have cited roadblocks to sending longer range, more powerful weapons to Ukraine that include lengthy training requirements, difficulties maintaining equipment, or concerns U.S. weaponry could be captured by Russian forces, in addition to the fear of escalation.

But three U.S. officials and two congressional sources said two types of powerful anti-ship missiles, the Harpoon made by Boeing and the Naval Strike Missile made by Kongsberg and Raytheon Technologies were in active consideration for either direct shipment to Ukraine, or through a transfer from a European ally that has the missiles.

In April, Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelenskiy appealed to Portugal to provide the Ukrainian military with Harpoons, which have a range of up to almost 300 km.

But there are several issues keeping Ukraine from receiving the missiles. For one, there is limited availability of platforms to launch Harpoons from shore -- a technically challenging solution according to several officials -- as it is mostly a sea-based missile.

Two U.S. officials said the United States was working on potential solutions that included pulling a launcher off of a U.S. ship.

About 20 Russian Navy vessels, including submarines, are in the Black Sea operational zone, the British defense ministry has said.

Bryan Clark, a naval expert at the Hudson Institute, said 12 to 24 anti-ship missiles like the Harpoon with ranges over 100 km would be enough to threaten Russian ships and could convince Moscow to lift the blockade. "If Putin persists, Ukraine could take out the largest Russian ships, since they have nowhere to hide in the Black Sea," Clark said.

Russia has already suffered losses at sea, notably the sinking of the cruiser Moskva, the flagship of its Black Sea fleet.

WHO GOES FIRST?
A handful of countries would be willing to send Harpoons to Ukraine, the U.S. officials and the congressional sources said. But no one wants to be the first or only nation to do so, fearing reprisals from Russia if a ship is sunk with a Harpoon from their stockpile, the third U.S official said.

That U.S. official said one country is considering being the first to supply the missile to Ukraine. Once that "well stocked" nation commits to sending Harpoons, others might follow, the official said.

The Naval Strike Missile (NSM) can be launched from the Ukrainian coast and has a range of 250 km. It also takes less than 14 days training to operate.

The sources said NSMs were viewed as less logistically difficult than Harpoons, because NATO allies could loan mobile ground launchers which are available, and warheads from Norway.

The first two U.S. officials and the congressional sources said the United States was trying to work out a way for Ukraine to obtain NSM and launchers from European allies.

The congressional sources said another option would be for Norway to donate NSMs to Ukraine, an idea supported by Norwegian members of parliament https://mil.in.ua/en/news/norwegian...ir-defense-and-nsm-strike-missiles-to-ukraine. The Norwegian Ministry of Defense declined to comment on what additional contributions of arms and defense equipment it may consider offering to Ukraine.

All weapons requests that have U.S. content such as Harpoons and NSMs would have to be approved by the U.S. State Department, which takes guidance from the White House.

Another weapon high on Ukraine's shopping list are Multiple Rocket Launch Systems (MLRS) such as the M270 made by Lockheed Martin which can strike a target 70 or more kilometers away, a three-fold increase over many of their current howitzer rounds.

In recent weeks, the Biden administration decided instead to send M777 towed howitzers which could be deployed faster and shipped in larger quantities, the two U.S. officials said.

The two U.S. officials said the M270 or similar system like the M142 HIMARS would be considered for shipment to Ukraine once Congress passed a $40 billion supplemental funding bill that would authorize an additional $11 billion worth of Presidential Drawdown Authority. That lets the president authorize the transfer of excess weapons from U.S. stocks without congressional approval in response to an emergency.
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If Russia has the ability, as we have, to back track missiles and artillery to their launch point they can stop this nonsense. The next missile launched at a Russian ship, saturate the launch point with missiles. Then broadcast over radio to the civilians that any missiles launched at Russian ships will result in the destruction of the area surrounding the launch point. I believe we did a version of this in Afghanistan.

Russia has been particularly gentle in their approach compared to what they are capable of.

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WTSR

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❗Pentagon: New package of US military assistance to Ukraine includes: ▪️36 counter-battery radars ▪️18 155mm howitzers ▪️18 tactical vehicles. shipping of this weapon will begin immediately.
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Josie

Josie

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Scrapman said:
This administration is out of there frigging minds.
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Can someone tell me why it's so damn important to protect Ukraine to this point of absurdity? If Russia had invaded a country in, let's say Africa, I highly doubt there would be this much aid and support from Pedo Joe and his commie group. And this is what leads me to believe that there is much more here than meets the eye. It's NOT about Russia taking over Europe. It's more about keeping dark secrets, dark.

WAKE UP PEOPLE! You are just a tool!
 
greysage

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An assortment of videos showing the surrender of Ukrainian/Azov militants and possible western mercenaries at Azovstal.

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Azovstal Surrenders Another Look

A different angle.
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Azovstal Militants Continue To Surrender

Over 1750+ have surrendered so far. There are some reports this is still only half of what's left, which would mean that initial estimates of 2200+ total militants may have been wrong. Some believe there could be as many as 3500-4000 total. Sviatos…
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Another Look At Captured Azovstal Troops As They Make Their Way To Russia

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AZOVSTAL SURRENDERS CONTINUE DAY AND NIGHT - AS DOES TREATMENT OF WOUNDED PRISONERS

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Squid

Veteran Member
Josie said:
Am I the only one feeling a little discomfort with all the sales and gifting of our military equipment and technology? Do we have better and more sophisticated in the pipes and we're selling/gifting our old stuff? Do we have any assurances that there is enough here in CONUS to defend us and the presents won't be used against us in the future? JMHO...this administration and their minions in Congress would sell their mother to the highest bidder to increase their personal wealth.
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The answer is no.

Biden and your neighborhood democrats are depleting US stockpiles of weapon systems in mass numbers to reduce the capabilities of the US DOD to make the world elites in feelz good. They left billions in weapons to pur enemies in the middle east that after they were tested on the people who tried to help our service members will be sold to our enemies like China to copy and will be used against US service people in the future.

To your democrat neighbor, and the evil dicks running this administration,the Chinese are not the enemy, the Taliban is not the enemy, YOU are the enemy.

They really believe the only threat to them in this world is a soccer mom standing against critical race theory.
 
Tex88

Tex88

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Josie said:
Can someone tell me why it's so damn important to protect Ukraine to this point of absurdity? If Russia had invaded a country in, let's say Africa, I highly doubt there would be this much aid and support from Pedo Joe and his commie group. And this is what leads me to believe that there is much more here than meets the eye. It's NOT about Russia taking over Europe. It's more about keeping dark secrets, dark.

WAKE UP PEOPLE! You are just a tool!
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Name any one country in Africa that's currently seeking to align itself with the West, America, NATO and/or the EU, and has a functioning civilization.
 
greysage

greysage

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WTSR said:
t.me

Not Masno

You can view and join @NovichokRossiya right away.
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Sorry for the terrible music they edited into it.
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www.bitchute.com

DPR Artillery Lands Pinpoint Blast On Ukrop Tanks

"The artillery of the 100th brigade of the army of the Donetsk People's Republic, correcting the fire with the help of a drone received from the Veche, destroys and puts to flight tanks and infantry of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Avdiivka dir…
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AlfaMan

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Tex88 said:
Name any one country in Africa that's currently seeking to align itself with the West, America, NATO and/or the EU, and has a functioning civilization.
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I'd put forth the French who recently pulled out of Mali-but you said a functioning civilization. So nope, not even they qualify.

I will add one country in Africa that is aligning itself with the US-Ghana. The Ghanians signed a naval base use agreement a year or two back.
China has pretty much the rest of the continent wrapped up in Belt and Road projects.
 
greysage

greysage

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Another video of surrendering Ukrainian militants and Ukronazis.

www.bitchute.com

Azovstal Militants Continue To Surrender

Over 1750+ have surrendered so far. There are some reports this is still only half of what's left, which would mean that initial estimates of 2200+ total militants may have been wrong. Some believe there could be as many as 3500-4000 total. Sviatos…
www.bitchute.com www.bitchute.com

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Show572

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Josie said:
Can someone tell me why it's so damn important to protect Ukraine to this point of absurdity? If Russia had invaded a country in, let's say Africa, I highly doubt there would be this much aid and support from Pedo Joe and his commie group. And this is what leads me to believe that there is much more here than meets the eye. It's NOT about Russia taking over Europe. It's more about keeping dark secrets, dark.

WAKE UP PEOPLE! You are just a tool!
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I've been saying that since the beginning.
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Squid

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Walrus said:
Just a quick note to note that nations which are winning a war generally don't make a habit of blowing up their own bridges.
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Duuh.

Since both sides have blown up bridges, I guess both sides are losing.

Come to think of it, that is the truest statement I can make of this whole cluster. Anyone who can find a winner is smoking some serious Biden son level crack...
 
Old Greek

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Josie said:
Can someone tell me why it's so damn important to protect Ukraine to this point of absurdity? If Russia had invaded a country in, let's say Africa, I highly doubt there would be this much aid and support from Pedo Joe and his commie group. And this is what leads me to believe that there is much more here than meets the eye. It's NOT about Russia taking over Europe. It's more about keeping dark secrets, dark.

WAKE UP PEOPLE! You are just a tool!
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Yes - The US and the EU are protecting their money tree!!
 
Doomer Doug

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Wait for the Russian pivot west to flush the ukies towards the river. The Russians are rolling north pounding the ukies out of donbas and lugash fortified areas one stone house at a time.

The ukie troops in the east likely saw zippy prancing around Cannes film festival like a fop.

well Combat troops now view zippy as a fool. Just like we viewed Nixon in the summer of 1974. They are fighting and dying, with minimal support from a corrupt zippy regime.

There was also a post about ukie commanders abandoning their troops and fleeing to the west. Again, if any of that is true I expect a rout of the ukies to be imminent. It has always been inevitable.


I said waaay back at the beginning the ukies would fight and die ,hard which they have. However the deployment of NATO forces and tech has bought them some time and baited russia into WWW3.
By Memorial Day Russia will be ready for serious payback on NATO et al.
The level of total contempt shown by the USA to openly boast of sinking Russian flag ships, or shooting down a plane load of airborne troops, or vetting snipers to kill russian generals, and you think Putin will let that slide? :sh2:
 
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wait-n-see

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DuckandCover said:
Nearly surrounded? Somewhat surrounded? Attempting to surround? Whatever one wants to call it, lol.
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Well, you can call something anything you want. But just because you want to call a duck a goat, that does not make it fact that the duck is a goat to everyone else. :shr:

Even more hilarious is how it was proclaimed by the Zelensky government, along with all their supporting MSM pals, how their great military heroes were being "evacuated" from Azovstal steel plant after completing their orders. :eye:
 
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Walrus

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Squid said:
Good thing you can keep getting us the totally honest reports from RU and the Kremlin!!!!

Bbbwwwaaaaa.

You might be buying used cars from one side, I would suggest not buying either sides BS.
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It's not exciting as far as the media goes, but pay attention to the grinder grinding away slowly and steadily. Simplicius76 on bitchute (Yes, he's Russian from what I can figure) has the most up-to-date vids I've watched (which are few). Most are pretty gruesome but there's some interesting ones showing the Ukie soldiers surrendering en masse from Azovstal.

Speaking of Azovstal, the hard-core ones and the NATO embedded troops appear to still be underground. Being as the ones still in the rathole are the ones who want to go out with a bang, I'd think seriously about giving them their wish and flooding or gassing the place.

I'm pretty sure the reason they haven't is that the Russkies want to parade the NATO people in front of the world.
 
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greysage

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Walrus said:
Speaking of Azovstal, the hard-core ones and the NATO embedded troops appear to still be underground. Being as the ones still in the rathole are the ones who want to go out with a bang, I'd think seriously about giving them their wish and flooding or gassing the place.

I'm pretty sure the reason they haven't is that the Russkies want to parade the NATO people in front of the world.
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Most of the ones surrendering looked like they were consuming the limited supplies.
They were eating the food, drinking the water, using batteries, requiring medicine and clean bandages, etc.
The ones left inside are hardcore Azov and Ukraine war criminals and NATO spec ops types.
Whatever is being hidden down there is worth it for them to eventually die for.
 
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