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Cate Cadell @catecadell
7:51 PM · Jan 26, 2020
#WuhanCoronavirus data as of 08:30 -->
Total global cases: 2800
Total deaths: 80, all in mainland China
China: total 2744 inc. 769 new cases
Overseas inc HK Taiwan & Macau: 56 including 15 new cases reported yesterday



Cate Cadell @catecadell
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Data also shows that the daily rate of new case confirmations is showing no signs of slowing
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Cate Cadell @catecadell
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Places that saw a jump in cases in the past 24 hours include the U.S., Malaysia and Macau
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Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
Chinese researcher escorted from infectious disease lab amid RCMP investigation

I think the Chinese were playing around with some of the stuff they got from Canada. I think it got loose before it was fully weaponized.

Again--a link between Canada's high-security lab and Wuhan's. The article:

Coronavirus may have originated in lab linked to China's biowarfare program


By Bill Gertz - The Washington Times
Sunday, January 26, 2020
The deadly animal-borne coronavirus spreading globally may have originated in a laboratory in the city of Wuhan linked to China’s covert biological weapons program, said an Israeli biological warfare analyst.

Radio Free Asia last week rebroadcast a Wuhan television report from 2015 showing China’s most advanced virus research laboratory, known the Wuhan Institute of Virology. The laboratory is the only declared site in China capable of working with deadly viruses.

Dany Shoham, a former Israeli military intelligence officer who has studied Chinese biological warfare, said the institute is linked to Beijing’s covert bio-weapons program.

“Certain laboratories in the institute have probably been engaged, in terms of research and development, in Chinese [biological weapons], at least collaterally, yet not as a principal facility of the Chinese BW alignment,” Mr. Shoham told The Washington Times.

Work on biological weapons is conducted as part of dual civilian-military research and is “definitely covert,” he said in an email.

Mr. Shoham holds a doctorate in medical microbiology. From 1970 to 1991, he was a senior analyst with Israeli military intelligence for biological and chemical warfare in the Middle East and worldwide. He held the rank of lieutenant colonel.
China has denied having any offensive biological weapons, but a State Department report last year revealed suspicions of covert biological warfare work.

A Chinese Embassy spokesman did not return an email seeking comment.

Chinese authorities said they do not know the origin of the coronavirus, which has killed at least 80 and infected thousands.
Gao Fu, director of the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention, told state-controlled media that initial signs indicated the virus originated from wild animals sold at a seafood market in Wuhan.

One ominous sign, said a U.S. official, is that false rumors circulating on the Chinese internet claim the virus is part of a U.S. conspiracy to spread germ weapons. That could indicate China is preparing propaganda outlets to counter any charges that the new coronavirus escaped from one of Wuhan’s civilian or defense research laboratories.

The World Health Organization is calling the microbe novel coronavirus 2019-nCoV. At a meeting Thursday in Geneva, the organization stopped short of declaring a public health emergency of international concern
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China has deployed military forces to Wuhan to halt all travel out of the city of 11 million people in an effort to contain the outbreak of the virus, which causes pneumonia-like symptoms.

The Wuhan institute has studied coronaviruses including the strain that causes severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS), H5N1 influenza virus, Japanese encephalitis and dengue. Researchers at the institute also have studied the germ that causes anthrax, a biological agent once developed in Russia.

“Coronaviruses [particularly SARS] have been studied in the institute and are probably held therein,” Mr. Shoham said. “SARS is included within the Chinese BW program, at large, and is dealt with in several pertinent facilities.”

It is not known whether the institute’s coronaviruses are specifically included in China’s biological weapons program but it is possible, he said.

Asked whether the new coronavirus may have leaked, Mr. Shoham said: “In principle, outward virus infiltration might take place either as leakage or as an indoor unnoticed infection of a person that normally went out of the concerned facility. This could have been the case with the Wuhan Institute of Virology, but so far there isn’t evidence or indication for such incident.”

After researchers sequence the genome of the new coronavirus, they might be able to determine or suggest its origin or source.

Biological weapons convention

Mr. Shoham, now with the Begin-Sadat Center for Strategic Studies at Bar Ilan University in Israel, said the virology institute is the only declared site in China known as P4 for pathogen level 4. That status indicates the institute uses the strictest safety standards to prevent the spread of the most dangerous and exotic microbes being studied.

The former Israeli military intelligence doctor also said suspicions were raised about the Wuhan Institute of Virology when a group of Chinese virologists working in Canada improperly sent to China samples of what he described as some of the deadliest viruses on earth, including the Ebola virus.

In a July article in the journal Institute for Defense Studies and Analyses, Mr. Shoham said the Wuhan institute was one of four Chinese laboratories engaged in some aspects of biological weapons development.

He said the secure Wuhan National Biosafety Laboratory at the institute was engaged in research on the Ebola, Nipah and Crimean-Congo hemorrhagic fever viruses.

The Wuhan virology institute is under the Chinese Academy of Sciences, but certain laboratories within it “have linkage with the PLA or BW-related elements within the Chinese defense establishment,” he said.

In 1993, China declared a second facility, the Wuhan Institute of Biological Products, as one of eight biological warfare research facilities covered by the Biological Weapons Convention, which China joined in 1985.

The Wuhan Institute of Biological Products is a civilian facility but is linked to the Chinese defense establishment. Mr. Shoham said it is thought to be involved in the Chinese Biological Weapons Convention program. China’s vaccine against SARS is probably produced there.

“This means the SARS virus is held and propagated there, but it is not a new coronavirus unless the wild type has been modified, which is not known and cannot be speculated at the moment,” he said.
The annual State Department report on arms treaty compliance stated last year that China engaged in activities that could support biological warfare.

“Information indicates that the People’s Republic of China engaged during the reporting period in biological activities with potential dual-use applications, which raises concerns regarding its compliance with the BWC,” said the report, adding that the United States suspects China failed to eliminate its biological warfare program as required by the treaty.
“The United States has compliance concerns with respect to Chinese military medical institutions’ toxin research and development because of the potential dual-use applications and their potential as a biological threat,” the report said.
The biosafety lab is about 20 miles from the Hunan Seafood Market, which reports from China say may have been the origin point of the virus.

Rutgers University microbiologist Richard Ebright told London’s Daily Mail that “at this point there’s no reason to harbor suspicions” that the lab may be linked to the virus outbreak.
 

jward

passin' thru
it never was feasible to limit it's spread, and we knew it was global for a week or longer.
...what I want to know know is some real numbers on how many are catching and
presenting mild or moderately, or even seriously but recovering.
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
(worth a re-post, for those who may have missed it in this VERY long thread---picture of the CHINESE couple who SHIPPED THE CORONAVIRUS to CHINA is below)

Did China Steal Coronavirus From Canada And Weaponize It?

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Last year a mysterious shipment was caught smuggling Coronavirus from Canada. It was traced to Chinese agents working at a Canadian lab. Subsequent investigation by GreatGameIndia linked the agents to Chinese Biological Warfare Program from where the virus is suspected to have leaked causing the Wuhan Coronavirus outbreak.
Coronavirus Bioweapon – How Chinese agents stole Coronavirus from Canada and weaponized it into a Bioweapon
The Saudi SARS Sample


On June 13, 2012 a 60-year-old Saudi man was admitted to a private hospital in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, with a 7-day history of fever, cough, expectoration, and shortness of breath. He had no history of cardiopulmonary or renal disease, was receiving no long-term medications, and did not smoke.
Egyptian virologist Dr. Ali Mohamed Zaki isolated and identified a previously unknown coronavirus from his lungs. After routine diagnostics failed to identify the causative agent, Zaki contacted Ron Fouchier, a leading virologist at the Erasmus Medical Center (EMC) in Rotterdam, the Netherlands, for advice.
Abnormalities on Chest Imaging of the Saudi patient infected with Coronavirus. Shown are chest radiographs of the patient on the day of admission (Panel A) and 2 days later (Panel B) and computed tomography (CT) 4 days after admission (Panel C).
Fouchier sequenced the virus from a sample sent by Zaki. Fouchier used a broad-spectrum “pan-coronavirus” real-time polymerase chain reaction (RT-PCR) method to test for distinguishing features of a number of known coronaviruses known to infect humans.
This undated file image released by the British Health Protection Agency shows an electron microscope image of a coronavirus, part of a family of viruses that cause ailments including the common cold and SARS, which was first identified in the Middle East. HANDOUT/THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
This Coronavirus sample was acquired by Scientific Director Dr. Frank Plummer of Canada’s National Microbiology Laboratory (NML) in Winnipeg directly from Fouchier, who received it from Zaki. This virus was reportedly stolen from the Canadian lab by Chinese agents.
The Canadian Lab
Coronavirus arrived at Canada’s NML Winnipeg facility on May 4, 2013 from the Dutch lab. The Canadian lab grew up stocks of the virus and used it to assess diagnostic tests being used in Canada. Winnipeg scientists worked to see which animal species can be infected with the new virus.
Research was done in conjunction with the Canadian Food Inspection Agency’s national lab, the National Centre for Foreign Animal Diseases which is housed in the same complex as the National Microbiology Laboratory.
The National Microbiology Lab (The Canadian Science Centre for Human and Animal Health) on Arlington St. in Winnipeg. Wayne Glowacki/Winnipeg Free Press Oct.22 2014
NML has a long history of offering comprehensive testing services for coronaviruses. It isolated and provided the first genome sequence of the SARS coronavirus and identified another coronavirus NL63 in 2004.
This Winnipeg based Canadian lab was targeted by Chinese agents in what could be termed as Biological Espionage.
Chinese Biological Espionage
In March 2019, in a mysterious event a shipment of exceptionally virulent viruses from Canada’s NML ended up in China. The event caused a major scandal with Bio-warfare experts questioning why Canada was sending lethal viruses to China. Scientists from NML said the highly lethal viruses were a potential bio-weapon.
Following investigation, the incident was traced to Chinese agents working at NML. Four months later in July 2019, a group of Chinese virologists were forcibly dispatched from the Canadian National Microbiology Laboratory (NML). The NML is Canada’s only level-4 facility and one of only a few in North America equipped to handle the world’s deadliest diseases, including Ebola, SARS, Coronavirus, etc.




Xiangguo Qiu – The Chinese Bio-Warfare Agent
The NML scientist who was escorted out of the Canadian lab along with her husband, another biologist, and members of her research team is believed to be a Chinese Bio-Warfare agent Xiangguo Qiu. Qiu was the head of the Vaccine Development and Antiviral Therapies Section in the Special Pathogens Program at Canada’s NML.

Xiangguo Qiu is an outstanding Chinese scientist born in Tianjin. She primarily received her medical doctor degree from Hebei Medical University in China in 1985 and came to Canada for graduate studies in 1996. Later on, she was affiliated with the Institute of Cell Biology and the Department of Pediatrics and Child Health of the University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, not engaged with studying pathogens.
Dr. Xiangguo Qiu, the Chinese Biological Warfare Agent working at the National Microbiology Laboratory, Canada
But a shift took place, somehow. Since 2006, she has been studying powerful viruses in Canada’s NML. The viruses shipped from the NML to China were studied by her in 2014, for instance (together with the viruses Machupo, Junin, Rift Valley Fever, Crimean-Congo Hemorrhagic Fever and Hendra).
Infiltrating the Canadian Lab
Dr. Xiangguo Qiu is married to another Chinese scientist – Dr. Keding Cheng, also affiliated with the NML, specifically the “Science and Technology Core”. Dr. Cheng is primarily a bacteriologist who shifted to virology. The couple is responsible for infiltrating Canada’s NML with many Chinese agents as students from a range of Chinese scientific facilities directly tied to China’s Biological Warfare Program, namely:
  1. Institute of Military Veterinary, Academy of Military Medical Sciences, Changchun
  2. Center for Disease Control and Prevention, Chengdu Military Region
  3. Wuhan Institute of Virology, Chinese Academy of Sciences, Hubei
  4. Institute of Microbiology, Chinese Academy of Sciences, Beijing
Sources say Xiangguo Qiu and her husband Keding Cheng were escorted from the National Microbiology Lab in Winnipeg on July 5, 2019. Since then, the University of Manitoba has ended their appointments, reassigned her graduate students, and cautioned staff, students and faculty about traveling to China. (Governor General’s Innovation Awards)
All of the above four mentioned Chinese Biological Warfare facilities collaborated with Dr. Xiangguo Qiu within the context of Ebola virus, the Institute of Military Veterinary joined a study on the Rift Valley fever virus too, while the Institute of Microbiology joined a study on Marburg virus. Noticeably, the drug used in the latter study – Favipiravir – has been earlier tested successfully by the Chinese Academy of Military Medical Sciences, with the designation JK-05 (originally a Japanese patent registered in China already in 2006), against Ebola and additional viruses.

However, the studies by Dr. Qiu are considerably more advanced and apparently vital for the Chinese biological weapons development in case Coronavirus, Ebola, Nipah, Marburg or Rift Valley fever viruses are included therein.
The Canadian investigation is ongoing and questions remain whether previous shipments to China of other viruses or other essential preparations, took place from 2006 to 2018, one way or another.
 

Texican

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Arizona Resident is Fifth Coronavirus Case in U.S.


U.S. health officials announced Sunday that a Maricopa County, Arizona, resident is the fifth confirmed coronavirus case in the country.

A Maricopa County, Arizona, resident is the fifth confirmed coronavirus case in the United States, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) announced Sunday.

The development comes after the federal public health agency said a fourth case was confirmed in Orange County, California. Other cases have been confirmed in Orange County, California, Washington state, and Chicago.

The virus can cause fever, coughing, wheezing and pneumonia. It is a member of the coronavirus family that’s a close cousin to the deadly SARS and MERS viruses that have caused outbreaks in the past.
Dozens of people have died from the virus in China, which has issued massive travel bans in hard-hit sections of that country to try to stem spread of the virus. The U.S. consulate in Wuhan announced Sunday that it would evacuate its personnel and some private citizens aboard a charter flight.

The CDC expects more Americans to be diagnosed with the newly discovered virus, which is believed to have an incubation period of about two weeks, as worldwide the number of confirmed cases nears 2,000. The CDC is screening passengers on direct and connecting flights from Wuhan at five major airports in Atlanta, Chicago, New York City, San Francisco and Los Angeles.

Guidance from the CDC advises that people who have had casual contact with the patient are at “minimal risk” for developing infection. (Unless they are sneezing, coughing or you touch something they have touched with their sweaty hands or sneezed or coughed on....)

“CDC believes the immediate risk to the U.S. public is low at this time, but the situation is evolving rapidly,” Dr. Nancy Messonnier, the director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, told reporters Friday. “We have our best people working on this problem.” (Go into crowds or fly at your own risk.)

Earlier this week, Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR) urged the Trump administration to consider a travel ban on visitors from China as public health concerns grow.

“Once again, a deadly virus is emanating from the People’s Republic of China. The Wuhan coronavirus has infected hundreds of people in China, killing at least seventeen individuals so far. The disease has now spread to Taiwan, Japan, Thailand, and South Korea,” Cotton wrote in a letter to Health and Human Services (HHS) Secretary Alex Azar, which was obtained exclusively by Breitbart News. “At least one case has been confirmed in the United States. I’m confident that the United States Government is undertaking all possible measures to contain the spread of the disease, but I’m deeply concerned that waging an efficient and successful campaign against this virus depends on the trustworthiness and transparency of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), an organization with a horrendous history in these matters.”

“I urge the Department of Health and Human Services to carefully vet any information being passed from its contacts in Beijing. If you have reason to believe that U.S. officials are being provided with false or misleading information about the disease from Chinese government officials, I ask that you notify Congress immediately,” the senator added.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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Frustrated yet????

Texican....
 

thereisnofork

Veteran Member
From memory, a year or so ago, some "Scientists" in Canada located some live Spanish Flu virus samples in the permafrost, and scuttled off to their level 5 lab (Not sure of level but 4 or 5) to "play" with their new toy!
I wonder if this was the attraction for this person?
sb
Many years ago, an officer from the bioweapons lab at Fort Detrick issued a statement that the military had successfully retrieved and activated the Spanish Flu from a body buried in the permafrost of Alaska. It was maybe around 2005 when some other pathogen may have been released accidentally. It appeared to be a warning to others that we did have the nastiest bug in our arsenal.
 

homecanner1

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Coming up in the 2nd half of Coast to Coast will be Chris de Rose, who is involved in pet rescue, abducted household pets being sold to labs for unscrupulous experimentation. Host George Knapp says they will discuss the abusive situation in the Chinese wild animal markets, especially in the wake of the live animal wildlife trade ban as of today.

Its not the Coronavirus show which is planned for Monday but will touch on the shocking ongoing Chinese animal atrocities which obviously are contributing to these out of control hybrid human animal chimera diseases emerging.

Second half: Chris DeRose will discuss how he investigated and finally busted some of the most heartless and corrupt pet-theft rings in the nation and what happens on the front lines of the fight on behalf of animals.
 
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marsh

On TB every waking moment
Comments saved up as I caught up:

If this gets rip roaring world side, I would imagine that the supply chain will be severely disrupted. It may be the opportune time for TPTB to reset the economy. There will be too many individual family and small business financial impacts effecting survival for there not to be some sort of debt freeze or reset.

The problem with Wuhan's statistics is that vehicular traffic has been halted and emergency and cremation pick up services are halted. People have no alternative but to stay home with their sickness, possibly dying there. A really sick person is unlikely to walk to the hospital. So the counts are incomplete

Articles on mail (It was stated earlier that it was thought to be a vector in the Spanish Flu and to iron it) and Africa.


Exclusive: USA Still Accepting Packages From Wuhan China Despite Coronavirus Quarantine

China's 'Belt and Road' Connects Africa to Deadly Virus

China’s ‘Belt and Road’ Connects Africa to Deadly Virus
 

jward

passin' thru
Many years ago, an officer from the bioweapons lab at Fort Detrick issued a statement that the military had successfully retrieved and activated the Spanish Flu from a body buried in the permafrost of Alaska. It was maybe around 2005 when some other pathogen may have been released accidentally. It appeared to be a warning to others that we did have the nastiest bug in our arsenal.

A thread on main talking about some of those goodies they dug up, coz :: gulp ::: not enough killer critters runnin round already!
 

COelf

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I want to tell people that this virus is not wide-spread enough to stop your normal activities or normal routines. Please continue to do what you did before this was news.
Normally I consider information from the CDC placebo information but they have some good recommendations on this virus:
Prevention Steps for Close Contacts
If you have had close contact with someone who is confirmed to have, or being evaluated for, 2019-nCoV infection, you should:
Monitor your health starting from the day you first had close contact with the person and continue for 14 days after you last had close contact with the person. Watch for these signs and symptoms:
  • Fever. Take your temperature twice a day.
  • Coughing.
  • Shortness of breath or difficulty breathing.
  • Other early symptoms to watch for are chills, body aches, sore throat, headache, diarrhea, nausea/vomiting, and runny nose.
  • If you develop fever or any of these symptoms, call your healthcare provider right away.
  • Before going to your medical appointment, be sure to tell your healthcare provider about your close contact with someone who is confirmed to have, or being evaluated for, 2019-nCoV infection. This will help the healthcare provider’s office take steps to keep other people from getting infected. Ask your healthcare provider to call the local or state health department.
  • If you do not have any symptoms, you can continue with your daily activities, such as going to work, school, or other public areas. This one I have my doubts about because the virus can be asymptomatic (no symptoms).
 

Shooter

Veteran Member
The problem with Wuhan's statistics is that vehicular traffic has been halted and emergency and cremation pick up services are halted. People have no alternative but to stay home with their sickness, possibly dying there. A really sick person is unlikely to walk to the hospital. So the counts are incomplete
THIS is exactly what I think is happening, who knows how many that stayed home are dieing, people afraid to leave there house.
 

marsh

On TB every waking moment
This map from Business Insider might give an indication of locations where there are large concentrations of Chinese, other than ports of entry and universities.1580108591654.png
 

Old Gray Mare

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The problem with Wuhan's statistics is that vehicular traffic has been halted and emergency and cremation pick up services are halted. People have no alternative but to stay home with their sickness, possibly dying there. A really sick person is unlikely to walk to the hospital. So the counts are incomplete
Marsh what I'm wondering if families are just burying the dead in the backyard? Especially in rural areas? Who knows what officials put on a death certificate in a case like that? If there is one? I don't know how these things are handled in China. Overworked, short staffed government employees might fudge numbers to save face for themselves and their superiors?

Different culture. Different rules.
 
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Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
A thread on main talking about some of those goodies they dug up, coz :: gulp ::: not enough killer critters runnin round already!

I remember reading that story at the time and saying, "What the EFF are you thinking?!?!"
 

bluelady

Veteran Member
Well that might just settle the “H2H confirmed in US” controversy. Seems obvious (could be wrong) that these 3 were among the 60 being screened because of their contact with the first US confirmed case in the Seattle area.
No, it says the three developed symptoms after returning to the U.S. from Wuhan.
 

homecanner1

Veteran Member
*heavy sigh*

this Coast guest on Chinese markets is just distressing. Electrocuted cats, dogs boiled alive, fish fileted still alive on the tables.

I am a meateater and not trying to shut down farmers but something has got to give with the mass production standards.

Peacocks too?

Some of these vids are just making me wretch. Needless suffering of animals

They could just use a simple Biblical teaching to not participate in this. Sad that Communism represses basic dietary laws.

"...moreover, you shall detest among the birds; they are abhorrent, not to be eaten: the eagle and the vulture and the buzzard, and the kite and the falcon in its kind, every raven in its kind, and the ostrich and the owl and the sea gull and the hawk in its kind, and the little owl and the cormorant and the great owl, and the white owl and the pelican and the carrion vulture, and the stork, the heron in its kinds, and the hoopoe, and the bat. <-------

‘All the winged insects that walk on all fours are detestable to you. Yet these you may eat among all the winged insects which walk on all fours: those which have above their feet jointed legs with which to jump on the earth. These of them you may eat: the locust in its kinds, and the devastating locust in its kinds, and the cricket in its kinds, and the grasshopper in its kinds.

But all other winged insects which are four-footed are detestable to you.

Also whatever walks on its paws <----dogs, cats, lions, tigers, wolves etc, among all the creatures that walk on all fours, are unclean to you, whoever touches their carcasses becomes unclean until evening, and the one who picks up their carcasses shall wash his clothes and be unclean until evening; they are unclean to you.

‘Now these are to you the unclean among the swarming things which swarm on the earth: the mole, and the mouse <---rodents, and the great lizard in its kinds, and the gecko, and the crocodile, and the lizard, and the sand reptile, and the chameleon. These are to you the unclean among all the swarming things; whoever touches them when they are dead becomes unclean..."

real simple rules for life, man has domesticated cloven hoofed animals for 10,000 years, tried and true, safe when raised cleanly and humanely

cats, dogs, mice and bats are literally prohibited, in writing.
 
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Snyper

Veteran Member
Dr. Eric Feigl-Ding (@DrEricDing)
1/26/20, 9:18 PM
3) How is SARS most different from the new #coronavirus? SARS was never contagious when someone had no symptoms. But the new #WuhanCoronavirus **can be transmitted** even when no symptoms! The former US FDA Commissioner Dr Scott Gottlieb confirms it.
So two Drs say it is and some others say it isn't.
I'm still waiting for something conclusive.

Dr Ding tends towards melodrama:
1 day ago · Dr. Eric Feigl-Ding who taught for 15 years at Harvard and is a NYT-featured pharma whistleblower had this to say on Twitter: HOLY MOTHER OF GOD – the new coronavirus is a 3.8!!! How bad is that reproductive R0 value? It is thermonuclear pandemic level bad – never seen an actual virality coefficient outside of Twitter in my entire career.
 
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