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An X1.5 solar flare at 14:29 UTC (Jul 3). This is now the largest solar flare of Cycle 25, at least in terms of peak X-Ray flux. The region also produced an impulsive M2.7 @ 07:17 UTC (Jul 3). Because AR 2838 is already approaching the west limb, any associated CME activity would likely be directed away from Earth. Elsewhere, large AR 2835 located in the SW quadrant remained mostly stable with only very small B-Class flares detected. There will remain a chance for at least another moderate M-Flare during the next 24 hours. https://www.solarham.net/pictures/2021/jul3_2021_x1.5.jpg
 
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FIRST X-FLARE IN 4 YEARS: A new sunspot emerged during the early hours of July 3rd and promptly exploded, producing the first X-class solar flare since Sept. 2017. NASA's Solar Dynamics Observatory recorded the extreme ultraviolet flash:
A pulse of X-rays briefly ionized the top of Earth's atmosphere, causing a shortwave radio blackout over the Atlantic Ocean: blackout map. Mariners, aviators, and amateur radio operators may have noticed unusual propagation effects below 30 MHz just after 1429 UT

The source of this flare is an un-numbered sunspot now growing near the sun's northwestern limb. Yesterday it did not even exist, highlighting the unpredictability of solar activity. More flares may be in the offing, so stay tuned. Solar flare alerts: SMS Text.


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1-12020

1-12020

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With all the war doom and economic up-evil, wouldn't it just make sense... that a solar flare / Carrington Event cause the US to dump.

With everything else increasing in frequency why not add another thing to think about. Their is something in the good book about signs in the sun, the moon, and the stars Luke 21:25 (not trying to make this comment a theological issue just making an observation).
 
1-12020

1-12020

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How about this thought.
What would happen if the USA happens to be facing a CME like the one in 1859.
Wouldn't that make the USA totally irrelevant on the world stage, since we would be facing crazy homeland strife.
The other side of the world wouldn't have such effects and could continue their European quest for one world Gov.
 
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mecoastie

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1-12020 said:
How about this thought.
What would happen if the USA happens to be facing a CME like the one in 1859.
Wouldn't that make the USA totally irrelevant on the world stage, since we would be facing crazy homeland strife.
The other side of the world wouldn't have such effects and could continue their European quest for one world Gov.
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The other side of the world would be screwed. We feed the world and consume a lot of stuff the world produces. Russia moves into the Ukraine and takes over Europe. China takes Taiwan. Every other country with a beef goes after each other. Taking over this country would entail a lot. Even if they are welcomed with open arms it would mean that country would have to feed the people and get at least some infrastructure up and running.
 
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tanstaafl

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1-12020 said:
The other side of the world wouldn't have such effects and could continue their European quest for one world Gov.
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As far as I know solar storms don't come straight in on line-of-sight, so it really doesn't matter where you are on the Earth's surface when a big one hits (except that the closer you are to the equator the better off you probably are). From my understanding CMEs interact with the Earth's magnetic field and generally get funneled down at the North and South magnetic poles and flow south or north from there, and the stronger the solar storm the further the effects go from the poles. Therefore, while you might argue that the more tech a country has the more vulnerable it is, you can't argue that only a single country or a group of countries in the same general world area would be the only ones impacted.
 
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1-12020

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tanstaafl said:
As far as I know solar storms don't come straight in on line-of-sight, so it really doesn't matter where you are on the Earth's surface when a big one hits (except that the closer you are to the equator the better off you probably are). From my understanding CMEs interact with the Earth's magnetic field and generally get funneled down at the North and South magnetic poles and flow south or north from there, and the stronger the solar storm the further the effects go from the poles. Therefore, while you might argue that the more tech a country has the more vulnerable it is, you can't argue that only a single country or a group of countries in the same general world area would be the only ones impacted.
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Good to know.
Thanks for the info.
 
jed turtle

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Having “survived” 13 years of homesteading without any electricity, solar or otherwise,
if US civilization loses the grid, I do believe that it won’t take but a month or two for most of the survivors who are not familiar to living on earth without electricity to start converting to cannibals.

of course, most of those will come down with terrible diseases, since the average US resident is loaded with unnatural drugs and chemicals.
 
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jed turtle said:
Having “survived” 13 years of homesteading without any electricity, solar or otherwise,
if US civilization loses the grid, I do believe that it won’t take but a month or two for most of the survivors who are not familiar to living on earth without electricity to start converting to cannibals.

of course, most of those will come down with terrible diseases, since the average US resident is loaded with unnatural drugs and chemicals.
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I would muse, only one month or less. Also with in a week no 911 or organized law, it will be everyone on their own.
 
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