ENVR Water temps in Florida hit 101°

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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Just heard on evening sNooz.


Florida ocean records ‘unprecedented’ temperatures similar to a hot tub

The 90-100F readings add to previous warnings over warming water putting marine life and ecosystems in peril

The surface ocean temperature around the Florida Keys soared to 101.19F (38.43C) this week, in what could be a global record as ocean heat around the state reaches unprecedented extremes.


A water temperature buoy located in the waters of Manatee Bay at the Everglades national park recorded the high temperature late on Monday afternoon, US government data showed. Other nearby buoys topped 100F (38C) and the upper 90s (32C).

Normal water temperatures for the area this time of year should be between 73F and 88F (23C and 31C), according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (Noaa). The level of heat recorded this week is about the same as a hot tub.

Records for ocean surface temperature are not kept, but a 2020 study suggested that the highest temperature observed was 99.7F (37.61C) in the Persian Gulf.


The extreme readings add to previous warnings over Florida’s warming waters in the south-eastern United States as prolonged heat continued to bake other parts of the country. The south Florida coast has been grappling with an extreme heatwave that threatens marine life and ocean ecosystems.

“We didn’t expect this heating to happen so early in the year and to be so extreme,” Derek Manzello, with the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s Coral Reef Watch, told CNN last week. “This appears to be unprecedented in our records.”

Heatwaves are increasingly affecting the world’s oceans, destroying kelp, seagrass and corals and killing swathes of sea-life like “wildfires that take out huge areas of forest”. Research in 2019 found that the number of ocean heatwave days had tripled in recent years.

A 2021 heat dome probably killed more than 1 billion marine animals along Canada’s Pacific, experts have said.

The growing frequency and intensity of severe weather – both on land and in oceans – is a symptom of the global, human-driven climate crisis that is fueling extremes, experts warn, with current heatwaves expected to persist through August.


The United Nations’ World Meteorological Organization (WMO) reported earlier this month that global sea temperatures have reached monthly record highs since May, also driven in part by an El Niño event. Sea surface temperatures worldwide have broken monthly records for heat in April, May and June, according to Noaa.


The temperatures in Florida also pose a threat to human food supplies and livelihoods for those whose work is tied to the water.

As he worked his knife to filet fish hauled into Key Largo on Tuesday, fishing boat captain Dustin Hansel said the catch had been getting “slower and slower” for the past five summers. He had also been seeing more dead fish in waters around Key Largo.

“As far as all of our bay waters, any near-shore waters, everything is super, super hot,” Hansel said.

Noaa warned earlier this month that the warmer water around Florida could supercharge tropical storms and hurricanes, which build more energy over warmer waters. Rising temperatures are also severely stressing coral reefs, the agency said.

The high temperatures around the Florida Keys are putting coral reefs at risk – scientists have observed bleaching and even death in some of the Keys’ most resilient corals, said Ian Enochs, lead of the coral program at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration Atlantic Oceanographic and Meteorological Laboratory.

“This is more, earlier than we have ever seen,” Enochs said. “I’m nervous by how early this is occurring.”

It is not yet clear whether the temperatures recorded in Florida will count as a world record because the area is shallow, has sea grasses in it and may be influenced by warm land in the nearby Everglades national park, Brian McNoldy, a tropical meteorologist at the University of Miami, said.

Still, McNoldy said, “it’s amazing”, and the fact that two 100F measurements were taken in consecutive days gives credence to the readings.

 

Millwright

Knuckle Dragger
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duchess47

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Hfcomms

EN66iq
What if Russia or china is heating those waters from space?

Do you have any idea the amount of energy that would have to be dumped into a wide expanse of ocean to do something like that? I don't, but the energy would be beyond the capability of man. Regardless like many things in the world the cause is pretty irrelevant as we have to deal with it anyway.
 

TheSearcher

Are you sure about that?

I thought everything was getting colder?
The current hasn't collapsed just yet.
 

energy_wave

Has No Life - Lives on TB
My brother, who lives part of the year in Mexico north of Acapulco, he swims in the Pacific almost every day, he said the water was hotter than normal and the weather they are getting is like 2 months early.
 

duchess47

Has No Life - Lives on TB
My brother, who lives part of the year in Mexico north of Acapulco, he swims in the Pacific almost every day, he said the water was hotter than normal and the weather they are getting is like 2 months early.
Apparently we are starting a Super El Niño right now.
 

Knoxville's Joker

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And given the current solar events you probably won’t see a real winter ever again. Once the poles flip you’ll be a 100% equatorial climate.

That is soeculation. Geographic poles may not change and no known or existing documentation out there we gave access to tells of the last time this happened.

At the very leAst an argument cAn be made for a retraction of the magnetopause in spots
 

Knoxville's Joker

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Climate change = weather manipulation. Chemtrails + the ability to heat up the atmosphere by zapping it with who knows what from ground based HAARP type sites are the cause of all the unusual weather.
The devils time is short and he is heating this realm up.

Haarp would attenuate the temp. A space based laser would definitely heat things up though
 

Knoxville's Joker

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I believe the heating is coming from the core of the planet. There's 48 erupting volcano's now, and probably many more under the waters that we can't even see!

And that is part of the grand solar minimum solar activity. Expando planet model at work. Energy goes through earth and a certain percentage is turned into physical matter. Enough material gets created in a spot and you get an eruption
 

john70

Veteran Member
yes,it is hot near The Tropic of Cancer in the summer, most ever summer, for the last 79 years

and, i have heard, it was hot here in the summer even before i was born



The Tropic of Cancer, which is also referred to as the Northern Tropic, is the most northerly circle of latitude on Earth at which the Sun can be directly overhead. This occurs on the June solstice, when the Northern Hemisphere is tilted toward the Sun to its maximum extent.[1] It also reaches 90 degrees below the horizon at solar midnight on the December Solstice. Using a continuously updated formula, the circle is currently 23°26′10.4″ (or 23.43623°) north of the Equator.

Its Southern Hemisphere counterpart, marking the most southerly position at which the Sun can be directly overhead, is the Tropic of Capricorn. These tropics are two of the five major circles of latitude that mark maps of Earth, the others being the Arctic and Antarctic circles and the Equator. The positions of these two circles of latitude (relative to the Equator) are dictated by the tilt of Earth's axis of rotation relative to the plane of its orbit, and since the tilt changes, the location of these two circles also changes.

In geopolitics, it is known for being the southern limitation on the mutual defence obligation of NATO, as member states of NATO are not obligated to come to the defence of territory south of the Tropic of Cancer.

Climate​

The climate at the Tropic of Cancer is generally hot and dry, except for cooler highland regions in China, marine environments such as Hawaii, and easterly coastal areas, where orographic rainfall can be very heavy, in some places reaching 4 metres (160 in) annually. Most regions on the Tropic of Cancer experience two distinct seasons: an extremely hot summer with temperatures often reaching 45 °C (113 °F) and a warm winter with maxima around 22 °C (72 °F). Much land on or near the Tropic of Cancer is part of the Sahara Desert, while to the east, the climate is torrid monsoonal with a short wet season from June to September, and very little rainfall for the rest of the year.

The highest mountain on or adjacent to the Tropic of Cancer is Yu Shan in Taiwan; though it had glaciers descending as low as 2,800 metres (9,190 ft) during the Last Glacial Maximum, none survive and at present no glaciers exist within 470 kilometres (290 mi) of the Tropic of Cancer; the nearest currently surviving are the Minyong and Baishui in the Himalayas to the north and on Iztaccíhuatl to the south.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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This is my thread, and I want the woo OFF of it.

You guys can go back to UNEX and start all the threads you want on what’s causing it. But I’m going to remove the woo from this thread shortly.
 

energy_wave

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Hot because space based lasers are zapping the atmosphere is woo.

Zapping clouds with lasers could alter Earth’s climate​


Future technology might make it possible to alter the ice crystals in clouds more reflective​

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The ice particles in wispy cirrus clouds, seen here, can be shrunk by blasting them with a laser. Scientists are investigating this as a way to cool the planet’s warming temperatures.

By Emily Conover

June 12, 2016 at 6:00 am

Laser blasts might one day help scientists tweak Earth’s temperature. To do that, the lasers would be aimed at thin, wispy cirrus clouds. By shattering the ice crystals in them, those laser zaps might help cool the ground-level climate.
It’s a clever idea, although not ready for prime time. It also has its critics.
In the new study, researchers zapped tiny ice particles in the lab. This formed new, smaller bits of ice, they reported May 20 in Science Advances. Clouds with more — and smaller — ice particles reflect more light. So if used on clouds, this laser therapy might cause them to reflect more sunlight back into space. And that, the scientists propose, might offer one way to help combat global warming.

The scientists work at the University of Geneva in Switzerland and the Karlsruhe Institute of Technology in Germany. They injected water droplets into a chilled chamber. Its frigid conditions mimic those high in Earth’s atmosphere, where cirrus clouds live. The water froze into spherical ice particles. The scientists then walloped these spheres with short, intense bursts of laser light.

As each was hit, ultrahot plasmaformed in the center of the ice particle. That produced a shock wave that split apart the particle. It also vaporized much of the ice. The excess water vapor left in the aftermath then condensed and froze into new, smaller ice particles.
Applying this technique to clouds is “a long, long, long way in the future,” says Mary Matthews. She is a physicist at the University of Geneva and an author of the study. Current laser technology is not up to the task of cloud zapping — yet. “What we are hoping for is that the advances in laser technology, which are moving faster and faster all the time, will enable high-powered, mobile lasers,” she says.
But tinkering with cirrus clouds could backfire if scientists aren’t careful, warns Trude Storelvmo. She is an atmospheric scientist at Yale University in New Haven, Conn. Clouds trap heat, through the greenhouse effect. So breaking up a cloud’s ice particles — which makes more of them — might actually warm Earth. The cooling tactic “could potentially work, but only if you target certain types of cirrus clouds,” she argues. It might be better to target very thick clouds only.
There also could be warming if fossil fuels are burned to power the laser, points out David Mitchell. He is an atmospheric scientist at the Desert Research Institute in Reno, Nev. When fossil fuels are burned, they produce greenhouse gases. Those gases are responsible for global warming. “I think it’s really interesting research,” he says of the new study. Still, he says, “I’m just not seeing how it’s going to make the world a cooler place.”

As each was hit, ultrahot plasma formed in the center of the ice particle. That produced a shock wave that split apart the particle. It also vaporized much of the ice. The excess water vapor left in the aftermath then condensed and froze into new, smaller ice particles.
Applying this technique to clouds is “a long, long, long way in the future,” says Mary Matthews. She is a physicist at the University of Geneva and an author of the study. Current laser technology is not up to the task of cloud zapping — yet. “What we are hoping for is that the advances in laser technology, which are moving faster and faster all the time, will enable high-powered, mobile lasers,” she says.


But tinkering with cirrus clouds could backfire if scientists aren’t careful, warns Trude Storelvmo. She is an atmospheric scientist at Yale University in New Haven, Conn. Clouds trap heat, through the greenhouse effect. So breaking up a cloud’s ice particles — which makes more of them — might actually warm Earth. The cooling tactic “could potentially work, but only if you target certain types of cirrus clouds,” she argues. It might be better to target very thick clouds only.


There also could be warming if fossil fuels are burned to power the laser, points out David Mitchell. He is an atmospheric scientist at the Desert Research Institute in Reno, Nev. When fossil fuels are burned, they produce greenhouse gases. Those gases are responsible for global warming. “I think it’s really interesting research,” he says of the new study. Still, he says, “I’m just not seeing how it’s going to make the world a cooler place.”


 
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