HEALTH Virginia Democrats Propose Bill Allowing Abortion Up Until Moment Of Birth, Gov Defends it

[skoaldiak]

Video at twitter link...

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1090637474035052544



HB 2491 Abortion; eliminate certain requirements.

Introduced by: Kathy K.L. Tran | all patrons ... notes | add to my profiles
SUMMARY AS INTRODUCED:

Abortion; eliminate certain requirements. Eliminates the requirement that an abortion in the second trimester of pregnancy and prior to the third trimester be performed in a hospital. The bill eliminates all the procedures and processes, including the performance of an ultrasound, required to effect a woman's informed written consent to the performance of an abortion; however, the bill does not change the requirement that a woman's informed written consent be first obtained. The bill eliminates the requirement that two other physicians certify that a third trimester abortion is necessary to prevent the woman's death or impairment of her mental or physical health, as well as the need to find that any such impairment to the woman's health would be substantial and irremediable. The bill also removes language classifying facilities that perform five or more first-trimester abortions per month as hospitals for the purpose of complying with regulations establishing minimum standards for hospitals.

http://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?191+ful+HB2491

 

[Housecarl]

Coming to a "blue state" near you...ETA: So the Dems are pushing "in the clear" this election cycle abortion/infantcide, socialized/government controlled medicine, de-industrialization, higher taxes and open borders (for starters)...WOW....

 

[NC Susan]

...”.....the bill eliminates the requirement that two other physicians certify that a third trimester abortion is necessary to prevent the woman's death or impairment of her mental or physical health, as well as the need to find that any such impairment to the woman's health would be substantial and irremediable......”


The mommy hormones kick in in the first trimester!
There is no way a woman sells her soul and kills a nine month full term pregnancy without eventually losing her “mental health”

 

[JoanD777]

Does anyone wonder why our destruction is coming as a nation?

 

[summerthyme]

Does anyone wonder why our destruction is coming as a nation?

Nope... and the birth pangs are getting much more intense and closer together...

Summerthyme

 

[SouthernBreeze]

Does anyone wonder why our destruction is coming as a nation?

It's already happening, and gaining in severity every single day.

 

[CaryC]

FYI if you want you can go the last page in this thread:

http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/show...th-as-Catholic-bishops-question-Cuomo-s-faith

and there is an article, and transcript of the dialog.

At present it's the next to last post.

 

[CaryC]

Just food for thought:

When (not if) the cup of our indignation is full, even if Noah, Daniel, and Job lived in the land it would not, will not stay God's hand of judgment.

Ever wonder why America isn't mentioned in prophecy about the last days? Ever wonder if this may be the reason.

 

[raven]

If there is abortion up to moment of birth then:
Why should there be mandatory maternity leave. You don't need to be pregnant. Get an abortion. Now, get back to work.
Why should there be a child tax credit. If you can't afford a kid, go have an abortion. Now, get bat to work.
Why should there be child care expenses, if you can't afford to take care of your curtain climber, get and abortion. Now, get back to work.
Why should there be WIC and welfare for children. If you are too poor to have kids, get an abortion. Now, go back to your ghetto.
Why should there be a law making it a crime if you kill a fetus during the commission of a violent crime. If you can kill your own fetus, why is it a crime for someone else to?

yea, I know . . . but, but, but

 

[CaryC]

For the same reason people who believe in Climate change and want to change our energy-like Cortez also believes in illegal immigration. Not knowing that people in 3rd world countries should stay there due to a smaller carbon footprint. They don't get it.

BTW in the new New York bill. Killing a fetus during the commission of a crime is not longer viewed as a murder.

 

[hd5574]

The dims are pushing all sorts of repugnant bills in Richmond but by the grace of God the Republicans still have control of both houses of the state government and are conservative. We have do have an election for both houses this November fingers crossed.
Many of their horrid bills have already been defeated in committee. Senator Dick Black is great house leader. He is the senator that Hillary's handmaiden, former governor McAwful gave money to Comet's wifey ..... To try and beat...
HD

 

[Dosadi]

Damn blood dancers

Gods Judgement on the nation is coming, and happening as I type I"m pretty convinced.

Prepare; do all you can; and having done all; Stand.

 

[Countrymouse]

Local conservative talk-show host (who happens to be adopted, along with 3 of his siblings) said what's to prevent them next saying a child of 1 year old can't be "aborted"?

After all, it's all about the WOMEN's rights, not the child''s.

He said--and I agree---that it's gotten to the point that the Dems are trying to OUT-LIBERAL one another, in coming up with more and more extreme ideas for new laws..

 

[raven]

Local conservative talk-show host (who happens to be adopted, along with 3 of his siblings) said what's to prevent them next saying a child of 1 year old can't be "aborted"?

After all, it's all about the WOMEN's rights, not the child''s.

He said--and I agree---that it's gotten to the point that the Dems are trying to OUT-LIBERAL one another, in coming up with more and more extreme ideas for new laws..

If they had their way, they would allow abortion right up to the time when the kid is old enough to kill the parent first.

 

[LightEcho]

LIFE...or... DEATH
LIGHT..or.. DARKNESS
LOVE...or... HATE
LIBERTY..or.. OPPRESSION

We are seeing the separation of sheep from goats.
The death cult hates truth, God, God's people, order, justice.
Anyone who doubts the democrats are of the devil is delusional.

 

[Terriannie]

FYI if you want you can go the last page in this thread:

http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/show...th-as-Catholic-bishops-question-Cuomo-s-faith

and there is an article, and transcript of the dialog.

At present it's the next to last post.

Here's the sickening transcript that is so horrific, I could VOMIT!!! She is so evil I don't see how she can utter such words in complete calm with no hesitation in her voice. Not even a quiver!!

The picture I created (borrowed/stole from Bumblebuff) says it all.

The Daily Wire reported on Tran’s legislation and provided this exchange between Tran and Virginia Republican Delegate Todd Gilbert:

Gilbert: So how late in the third trimester would you be able to do that?

Tran: It’s very unfortunate that our physician witnesses were not able to attend today.

Gilbert: No, I’m talking about your bill. How late in the third trimester could a physician perform an abortion if he indicated it would impair the mental health of the woman?

Tran: Or physical health.

Gilbert: Okay. I’m talking about the mental health.

Tran: Through the third trimester. The third trimester goes all the way up to 40 weeks.

Gilbert: Okay. But to the end of the third trimester?

Tran: Yep. I don’t think we have a limit in the bill.

Gilbert: Where it’s obvious a woman is about to give birth, that she has physical signs that she is about to give birth. Would that be a point at which she could still request an abortion if she was so certified? She’s dilating.

Tran: Mr. Chairman, that would be a decision that the doctor, the physician, and the woman would make at that point.

Gilbert: I understand that. I’m asking if your bill allows that.

Tran: My bill would allow that, yes.

 

[SouthernBreeze]

Damn blood dancers

Gods Judgement on the nation is coming, and happening as I type I"m pretty convinced.

Prepare; do all you can; and having done all; Stand.

AMEN

 

[marymonde]

House Dems in VA propose legislation to allow abortions while the mother is having the baby.

It gets more demonic by the day:

Paul Joseph Watson
@PrisonPlanet
House Dems in VA propose legislation to allow abortions while the mother is having the baby. Whatever your views on abortion, this is straight up infanticide. Truly sick.

https://mobile.twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/1090422434736603137

 

[CaryC]

You only thought it was bad!!!!

Here's the comments by the VA Governor:

Northam on Abortion Bill: Infant Could Be Delivered and Then ‘Physicians and the Mother’ Could Decide If It Lives

freebeacon.com
2 mins read
BY: Andrew Kugle
January 30, 2019 1:12 pm
Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam (D.) commented Wednesday about a controversial 40-week abortion bill and in so doing said the law allows an abortion to take place after the infant's birth.

"If a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen. The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother," Northam said, alluding to the physician and mother discussing whether the born infant should live or die.

The rest of the article is the same as the transcript.

read:https://freebeacon.com/issues/north...-ensue-between-the-physicians-and-the-mother/

 

[marymonde]

I just posted the same topic. Sorry I didn not see this. I guess I didn’t want to see it. So evil

 

[marymonde]

Dupe. Please delete.

 

[SouthernBreeze]

You only thought it was bad!!!!

Here's the comments by the VA Governor:



The rest of the article is the same as the transcript.

read:https://freebeacon.com/issues/north...-ensue-between-the-physicians-and-the-mother/

Who didn't see this as the logical next step? Virginia is a lost cause to me.

 

[dstraito]

Let's just legalize murder of anyone. What's the difference? You are still killing a living human being with a heartbeat.

Isaiah 5:20

Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter!

Malachi 2:17 ESV

You have wearied the Lord with your words. But you say, “How have we wearied him?” By saying, “Everyone who does evil is good in the sight of the Lord, and he delights in them.” Or by asking, “Where is the God of justice?”


Psalm 11:5 ESV

The Lord tests the righteous, but his soul hates the wicked and the one who loves violence.

 

[desertvet2]

....and now ye shall witness the acceleration of man towards the pit.

He will not hold back much longer.

So much closer ...

 

[SouthernBreeze]

I think the OP title should be changed. "Abortion Will Be Allowed After The Birth Takes Place"!

 

[rhughe13]

Obviously Liberals killing future Liberals.

It might be time to endorse their culling of themselves. Would God approve, I don't know, but it is a way for the earth to return back to a Christian in-habitation of the planet much quicker.

Maybe this is Gods way of ending evil. Let it cull itself out.

If I understood life and bible enough, I might could answer this myself. But I don't know Gods plan for the evil going on.

 

[Chance]

They've criticized that catholic governor for his abortion stance...*note how it's not a religious denomination - it's a PARTY affiliation!!!!

 

[Profit of Doom]

Coming soon;
Genetic tests for defective political genes...
... knowingly giving birth to a conservative would obviously be detrimental to the mental health of the mother, to the point of involuntary abortion under a court conservatorship.

 

[Jerry799]

Using Liberal logic, it should be legal to perform retroactive post birth abortions on any politician,.... God knows they've earned it.

 

[33dInd]

i read a study several years that covered the democrats love of abortion and illegal immigration.
In a nut shell most children are raised as their parents were raised and that includes political leaning.
The dims realized that the abortion bomb had basically killed off their potential future voters in mass so the illegals were
necessary to fill that gap....................

 

[David Nettleton]

Nope... and the birth pangs are getting much more intense and closer together...

Summerthyme

History before our eyes.

 

[reaganchick]

Va Governor Defends Abortion Bill Allowing Abortion During Labor

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/jan/30/ralph-northam-virginia-governor-defends-bill-allow/

“The baby would be made comfortable, given resesutation if the family wanted, until the decision was made”

INFANTICIDE!

Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam on Wednesday defended a proposed bill that would allow abortion up until the moment of childbirth.

Virginia Democratic Del. Kathy Tran, chief sponsor of the Repeal Act, sparked headlines this week after she said her bill, which seeks to repeal restrictions on third-trimester abortions, would allow a woman to terminate her pregnancy while she’s in labor.

More at link: could someone please post the whole article? I’m on an iPad and it won’t copy more than first paragraph

 

[David Nettleton]

What do we do with an unexpected baby?
What do we do with the infirm and deformed?
What do we do with the elderly expensive old people?

 

[pinkelsteinsmom]

If this is allowed to stand, the elderly, disabled or you will be next. These murderous demons want to kill anything that stands in their way. When will JSP stand up?

 

[dvo]

We must be very close to the end. I just don’t know what else can be said.

 

[LightEcho]

What do we do with an unexpected baby?
What do we do with the infirm and deformed?
What do we do with the elderly expensive old people?

Who is the "we"? YOU take care of your own and I take care of my own. When "WE" make group decisions from one fascist perspective, we all suffer from those decisions. Socialism gives power to the fascist government which is at best amoral, and historically psychopathic.

 

[Housecarl]

Oh man....you can't make this stuff up...And this idiot doesn't probable either understand or care what he admitted to in that statement....

 

[reaganchick]

I agree. My heart broke today. We lived in Va for 11 years (until 2016) We could feel the darkness closing in. Both our boys graduated from one of the top public high schools. The oldest told me his Sr yr that he didn’t think if he’d not been homeschooled while we were overseas & had not come from a home that loved Jesus & unapologetically debunked the crap he was learning he would have kept his faith. Our youngest did walk away, falling for the humanist garbage. 4 years later he is still struggling- still hasn’t come back to his faith but has come back to a relationship with us- still praying for the return.

 

[reaganchick]

Oh man....you can't make this stuff up...And this idiot doesn't probable either understand or care what he admitted to in that statement....

He’s a pediatric neurologist

 

[helen]

The "abortion" is sanitizing what ...?

If the woman is in labor already, are they jamming a cannula through the baby's skull and sucking the brains out?