HEALTH Trump says that if you've had Covid you don't need the vax

artichoke

Senior Member
It's good to hear him say something useful, that we can use to defend against the pressure to vax. No text, it's just part of an interview, less than a minute.

 

artichoke

Senior Member
That's certainly true. What I found interesting was that Trump is somewhat backing off his pushing of the vax. Now people could say when Biden scolds them "Trump really won the election, and he says I don't need the vax, so let's go Brandon!"
 

Mark D

Now running for Emperor.
While I agree with T$ (basic biology/immunology), President Kiddie-Sniffer's E.O. doesn't care... I'd wager 50/50 that I'm jobless at the beginning of December as a result.

Let's go Brandon!
 

Anrol5

Senior Member
If anybody tries to if you've had Covid you don't need the vax, as it gives you immunity for life, try telling them about Norovirus. 6 months after you first infection, you can then get another bout of vomiting and diarrhea. That is why norovirus makes people sick every winter. Covid is bad, and in a year's time you can go through all this again. Immunity wanes.

For the Jan 2020 version 6 months. For the Delta variant about 9 months.

Trump may be thinking about something like Chickenpox, which once you get you are immune for life. Only they have discovered that is not true for everyone. Some get Chickenpox more than once.

So yes once you are infected, you are immune for a while, but your resistance to Covid declines over time, and a year later you need a booster shot.
 

jed turtle

a brother in the Lord
If anybody tries to if you've had Covid you don't need the vax, as it gives you immunity for life, try telling them about Norovirus. 6 months after you first infection, you can then get another bout of vomiting and diarrhea. That is why norovirus makes people sick every winter. Covid is bad, and in a year's time you can go through all this again. Immunity wanes.

For the Jan 2020 version 6 months. For the Delta variant about 9 months.

Trump may be thinking about something like Chickenpox, which once you get you are immune for life. Only they have discovered that is not true for everyone. Some get Chickenpox more than once.

So yes once you are infected, you are immune for a while, but your resistance to Covid declines over time, and a year later you need a booster shot.
Those who take the vax, which is not a vaccine, WILL discover that there is a reason that it is called “experimental”...
do not let “government” experiment on you or your family. The government of today’s world is ruled by Satan and wants us destroyed, while “making money” in the process.
waaaake up.
 

dstraito

TB Fanatic
Natural immunity is better than a vaccine.

The Moderna and Pfizer were 94% effective. That is relatively effectiveness not absolute, meaning more than no vac so 1.2%


Tell me again why Trump is promoting the vaccine?
 

Cardinal

Snark: a higher form of communication
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I think he (DJT) got "the message" last time he told people at one of his rallies to get the vaxx and he got roundly and loudly booed.
 

artichoke

Senior Member
Am I the only one here that knows that both parties work for the same elite and are given their own agendas to promote?
It's not that simple or that boring. Certainly there are big powers with big money controlling both parties. Even Trump, at his relatively small scale, confessed to giving money to both parties so he would get favors from whichever side won.

Trump is an interesting fellow. He's a great persuader and a great politician. He appears as a leader in everything he does. What's a leader? Someone who sees which way the crowd is heading, early enough to run around front and lead it using conventional proven methods. I often felt before and during his presidency that he was saying exactly what I was thinking.

(On the other extreme, someone who actually solves the problem like Tesla isn't a leader in his lifetime and may die alone. Whenever Tesla spoke, probably nobody understood what he was saying. Tesla was not a master of crowd control. Trump is.)

Those driving the agendas do it by incentivizing the rats to run around the maze in the way they want. We can all play this game but they have a bigger scale. Since the rats are you and me, some are hard to control. A guy like Trump is hard to control and has been able to break into pretty high levels. Like anyone he's interested in preserving #1.

In this case I think he went along with a plan that would have led "our movement" over the edge of a cliff. But we stopped short and separated ourselves. We're only 50% vaxed, not 90%. Pilots are doing organized actions. Many good people are probably willing to face the threat of dishonorable discharge over this issue, and if I were hiring I'd be looking for such people! A significant politician, Rand Paul, has already said with professional authority that natural immunity exists and is better than the vax. That politician might even run for the Republican presidential nomination in 2024.

It's now looking like we might win, so Trump reappears to "lead" us again. He thought long and hard about making that comment and probably felt he had no choice if he was to remain relevant. He says it even though he also said he got the vax, after having said as president that he had Covid and was treated with antibodies in Walter Reed, so now he risks being called inconsistent: why get the vax after having natural immunity already? (And isn't that a highly risky thing to do with the likelihood of immune overresponse to the vax? Did he really get the vax?) But it's definitely helpful to us. It feels like a lifeline.
 
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rhughe13

Heart of Dixie
You do not want the Experimental Government Jab at any cost. Trump has cost a lot of lives needlessly. Biden is carrying on the charge.
 

Faroe

Un-spun
So is he saying if you havent had it you should get the vax? or must get the vax?
Yeah, I'm suspicious.
It is carefully worded. The statement leaves open the possibility for a mandate requiring a positive antibody test to opt out of the vaxxx. I don't need Trump or a test to give me permission to say, No.

The best scenario for anyone is no vaxxx, and no history of Covid.

4-D chess? This time maybe, and not to his credit.
 
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