WEATHER Tropical Weather Time. Things are picking up in the Atlantic. 9/21/22 Hurricane Ian.
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mzkitty
I give up.
mzkitty
I give up.
I-75 closes as waters rise from Myakka River in North Port, delays expected until water recedes
First responders have shut down I-75 in both direction at Sumter Boulevard in North Port due to flooding. North Port has continued to see flooding impacts in the aftermath of Hurricane Ian.
mzkitty
I give up.
Ragnarok
On and On, South of Heaven
pauldingbabe
The Great Cat
I was in HS too.
I just remember all those trees in the park on the battery were gone. Like they had been sawn off. Little bit of splintering but clean cut.
All of those hundreds of years old trees were just gone.
Blew my mind. It was the first example of hurricane destruction I had seen.
Crazy.
pauldingbabe
The Great Cat
MinnesotaSmith
Membership Revoked
Betty_Rose
Veteran Member
It appears that the storm is dissipating now. Some of Ian is continuing its march up north and some of it is moving west, so does this mean that it’s officially over?
My friend in Fort Myers ended up with 4 feet of water in her home, and it’s hard to imagine that her house is salvageable after that. But she is alive and well and her beloved dog is alive and well, and that’s the most important thing.
My friend in Fort Myers ended up with 4 feet of water in her home, and it’s hard to imagine that her house is salvageable after that. But she is alive and well and her beloved dog is alive and well, and that’s the most important thing.
Betty_Rose
Veteran Member
It will be interesting to see what becomes of all these cars that were flooded by sea water. I sure hope people don’t try to sell these things in a few months.
It’d be interesting to know how many cars were totaled by floodwaters. 10,000? 100,000? Or more?
psychgirl
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My cousin lives in Arcadia Florida.
You guys, he said it’s much worse than what we are being told.
At least he and family are ok.
He said it’s devastation.
He’s lost everything.
***the TB member has messaged be back. They are still “ok” …only that the heat and grunge is getting nasty. Said it feels strange being totally cut off from everything, except what little gossip and news they manage to hear.
You guys, he said it’s much worse than what we are being told.
At least he and family are ok.
He said it’s devastation.
He’s lost everything.
***the TB member has messaged be back. They are still “ok” …only that the heat and grunge is getting nasty. Said it feels strange being totally cut off from everything, except what little gossip and news they manage to hear.
psychgirl
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Our radio reported yesterday morning it will be many years of reconstruction in Florida.
Talked about Fort Myers as being “totally gone for blocks and blocks of the city”
Also, if “you need anything at ALL as far as construction labor and materials, those will ALL be routed to Florida and you’re outta luck”
That goes for automobiles as well.
One of the families at church was supposed to go to Disney this weekend. It's fall break here. Should be interesting to see if they are in church tomorrow or not. I'd be worried about finding gas and other necessities on the trip. Disney was supposed to have reopened yesterday. I'll give a report if they go.
mzkitty
I give up.
September 30, 2022, 4:24 p.m.
(Bloomberg) -- Florida’s farmers and ranchers are facing “widespread destruction” of their crops from Hurricane Ian, according to the state’s farm bureau.
The region’s farmers are still assessing the damage, but it has become clear that, in areas of Florida’s citrus belt, “there has been significant fruit dropped from the trees,” the Florida Farm Bureau said by email. “Fall vegetables once rooted are now lost.”
Livestock and dairy farms have been “devastated,” the bureau said, and families in the region are facing weeks of rebuilding while still without power.
Meanwhile, masses of honey bee colonies -- critical to pollinating Florida’s plants and crops -- were submerged in water and are now in distress, the bureau said.
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View: https://twitter.com/noaaocean/status/1575787798174478337
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night driver
ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
We here are getting SOME idea as to the destruction. But we aren't even CLOSE to what is there. My bride, who is now in her company's Disaster Office has spent the last week with a 65" monitor showing LOCAL to FL TV stations. She comes home and tells me I gots NO CLUE what is down there. Like Sanibel is now just a cleared sand bar.
ALL we can do is pray.
First, pray for the folks inside of the affected area.
Second, pray that the gov ijits have scales PLACED on their eyes so that they use resources where they are needed. NOT based on some weird "equity" model.
And yeah, it's gonna take a LOT longer than the reconstruction of NOLA.
ALL we can do is pray.
First, pray for the folks inside of the affected area.
Second, pray that the gov ijits have scales PLACED on their eyes so that they use resources where they are needed. NOT based on some weird "equity" model.
And yeah, it's gonna take a LOT longer than the reconstruction of NOLA.
If you need any building materials, get them now.
I expect lumber to spike in price and shrink in availability soon.
Buy stock in lumber mills.
I expect lumber to spike in price and shrink in availability soon.
Buy stock in lumber mills.
psychgirl
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That’s exactly what I’ve heard way up here, in Indiana.
I think our local radio guy, Tony Katz, has connections down there.
And my cousin said it’s way, way worse than what we know.
psychgirl
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Millwright**
Yes. Tony Katz, WIBC ….this was his top story at 6am yesterday.
There’ll be nothing available.
They'll be stripped for parts or sold at auction for anything worth salvaging.
There are actually people planning to move to Florida for construction work. We are heading into our cool season so a lot will get done. People that don't want to work need not apply. By this time next year there will be a major difference in the landscape but you have to look at this also as an opportunity. All of the building will now have to be brought to the newest building codes which I suspect many of these were not due to the age/location.
Yes, it is going to take money but that is what investors do.
The bigger problem at the moment is finding a central location so that all of the debris removal has an organized place to go so it can be separated out.
1. Concrete at a concrete recycler so that it can be cleaned and ground to be used as road bed, concrete mixture, etc. We have a concrete recycling area not too far from us and they do a banging business even under normal circumstances.
2. Wiring and electronics
3. Wood and other "clean" burnables - some of which can be turned into mulch, etc.
4. Wood/not clean burnables - will have to be incinerated
5. Recyclable metals
6. Roofing material/tar - another incinerated material
I wonder how many people from up nawth will say f'it and go back to the land of snow?
Warm Wisconsin
Easy as 3.141592653589..
My remote engineer from Naples is doing exactly this. He is planning on taking his insurance money and not rebuilding.
mzkitty
I give up.
Yup, wicked bad. I don't know where "District 7" is, but watch this:
View: https://twitter.com/i/status/1576224454060912640
View: https://twitter.com/i/status/1576224454060912640
Might not work that way if he has a mortgage. The bank will get the money to rebuild before the home owner.
I wonder how many people are going to be surprised by this? Most insurance claims require two signatures on the check. Some require three. Home owner/policy holder, the mortgager, and the licensed and approved contractor.
I have a feeling some people are in for a big wake up call as far as this "f'it, I'm going back north." Plenty of them will go empty handed when they go.
Yes, loans need to be paid off and depends on each case and some may end up with an insurance assessment far greater than what's owed to the bank.
Right now if you're looking for work in the home building and construction trade head to Florida fast and bring camp gear with you.
SlipperySlope
Veteran Member
My son just heard from a Snowbird friend of his. They built a house on Sanibel Island on 12 foot stilts. Their house did pretty well but he had four vehicles in the garages under the house. They are all gone. One of them was an expensive race car. He is thankful to be alive but stranded for now. He has heard it will be close to a year before the causeway is rebuilt. They are also still looking for their next door neighbors who he tried to get join them for the storm.
The real old timers in NC knew you built your fishing shack on barrier islands out of driftwood ...
Macgyver
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I looked at some current pics of the causeway, the parts damaged are all on land.
Doesn't look like any of the "bridge" sections were destroyed.
Mostly going to need to truck in rip rap and fill, compact and pave.
It would be ridiculous if it takes that long.
Betty_Rose
Veteran Member
From what I’ve seen, chunks of asphalt fell into the gulf.
Go back to old pics of what Hurricane Charley did in 2004. Pretty much the same thing is what I am hearing. Was almost the exact same track. Charley cut a trench through the north end of Captiva (next to Sanibel) and now there is Captiva Island and North Captiva Island. The trench is filling back in with mangroves but that's Florida for you.
Ian came ashore right near Cayo Costa State Park (only reachable by water). There are private homes on the same island that are uninsurable. I mean million+ homes that are really nice. To own property in there it can't be mortgaged and you have to self-insure. I'm sure most of those have been knocked flat. Last time I was there, there was some crazy woman that put up signs trying to keep people from using "her" beach. Bwahahaha. Florida has a law for that. You can't block access to beach access. Hubby and I were there earlier this year. Stayed on Captiva, spent nearly a week between there and Sanibel. Went to Ding Darling and Cayo Costa state parks. Heard all the old horror stories from Charley. I expect it is much the same thing this time around.
The National Seashell Museum is on Sanibel, or was, so they'll be getting fed dollars in some locations.
Southseas Island Resort had privatized most of the end of Captiva. You couldn't just drive out and park unless you were an owner/guest but you could walk there from outside the resort entrance.
Captiva was closer to where the storm came ashore but Sanibel is more densely populated.