VIDEO Today's little video: Thieves ransack Walgreens store in San Francisco
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Sooth
Veteran Member
With the increase in violent crime in the cities and spreading across the land, I have been looking into purchasing the newer KelTec 12 gauge dual tube shotgun. It’s a tactical pump action shotgun and you can switch tubes on the fly. Chambered for 3” shells. Holds 6 or 7 in each magazine depending on shell size.
Gosh, I’m sorry, I think I have posted this in the wrong thread.
Apologies.
Gosh, I’m sorry, I think I have posted this in the wrong thread.
Apologies.
BetterLateThanNever
Veteran Member
In a just world.....these animals should be shot as they leave the store!
Illini Warrior
Illini Warrior
don't bother with the fricking gimmicks - one of the good US main brands and a basic pump model - modify it with off market add-ons >>> got yourself an all around useful shotgun
Melodi
Disaster Cat
I suspect they are taking "targeted goods" and that they are jr. gang members (or wanna-be gang members) used by older members (or a handler) to steal specific drugs or items that have good value on the streets. Children and "tweens" to steel stuff (from car parts to laundry liquid) have been used for a long time in the third world but are now becoming more popular in the US and some European countries. In some of the areas ruled by warlords (as in Mexico), they are sometimes used to commit murder and other mayhem as well.
The Handlers, Gang Leaders, or Warlords know that the judicial systems of most countries are not set up to deal with "children" or very young felons. But punishment alone doesn't stop it. The musical Oliver is based on a 19th-century novel with some basis of truth. The "Fagens" of the world have always done things to some degree.
I don't have a good and practical solution to hand for this one. It isn't legal to round them up anymore and transport them to Australia (or a Lunar Penal Colony, ala Robert A. Heinlein). But I can see why Walmart shut most of its stores in San Francisco.
The Handlers, Gang Leaders, or Warlords know that the judicial systems of most countries are not set up to deal with "children" or very young felons. But punishment alone doesn't stop it. The musical Oliver is based on a 19th-century novel with some basis of truth. The "Fagens" of the world have always done things to some degree.
I don't have a good and practical solution to hand for this one. It isn't legal to round them up anymore and transport them to Australia (or a Lunar Penal Colony, ala Robert A. Heinlein). But I can see why Walmart shut most of its stores in San Francisco.
Profit of Doom
Dismember
So you could change between, say, rock salt and slugs?
Sooth
Veteran Member
Rock Salt loads. The gift that keeps on giving.
Squib
Veteran Member
What were the items? I couldn’t see, but they looked like cosmetics?
Could that be right?
I remember back a few years people stealing Tide, etc as the price was so high, might could be the same with cosmetics?
Hawkgirl_70
Veteran Member
I remember we used to own guns. Some pretty good ones. But my husband had that terrible boating accident on the lake and that was that. Too expensive to buy new ones.
desertvet2
Veteran Member
Irish flat foots with shottys.
Tends to keep order when patty is gonna blast the yoots.
Tends to keep order when patty is gonna blast the yoots.
Blacknarwhal
Let's Go Brandon!
Funny how those anti-theft scanners at the doors didn't seem to even bloop slightly.
Josie
Has No Life - Lives on TB
They should outlaw hoodies and masks! That's the one recurent element in all these crimes.
And the idiots will whine and carry on when they have no place to get their meds. Only thing Walgreens can do at this point is to ether close completely or put the whole damn store behind the counter.
And the idiots will whine and carry on when they have no place to get their meds. Only thing Walgreens can do at this point is to ether close completely or put the whole damn store behind the counter.
Wildweasel
F-4 Phantoms Phorever
I'd prefer to have the AK-47-looking semi-auto shotgun with the big babnanna clip. Kalashnikov-USA-KT-S-12T (or something like that)
Wildweasel
F-4 Phantoms Phorever
Small-sized fish tank gravel. That stuff will be working its way out (painfully) many years latter. Like the road rash gravel from a childhood bicycle accident that was painfully still in my knee until it came out in my 30s.
I think the company if they changed their policy that can arm their employees with long clubs to go after them inside the store and skull fractures and other broken bones should be legally permissible and if it leads to death well to bad they should be be stealing for a living. From the video looks like that are all under 18 years of age.
bev
Has No Life - Lives on TB
I thought they already had.
They've already tried both of these options in various places. And every time some activist calls them racist for doing so.
Signwatcher
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Disgusting!! Simply disgusting.
I was almost undercharged at a store yesterday and pointed out that I had three items (stacked), not two.
I'm NOT proudly preening my virtue here, it costs EVERYONE when people rip off a business BECAUSE the business isn't going to pay for the loss. They merely pass it on to the consumer.
I was almost undercharged at a store yesterday and pointed out that I had three items (stacked), not two.
I'm NOT proudly preening my virtue here, it costs EVERYONE when people rip off a business BECAUSE the business isn't going to pay for the loss. They merely pass it on to the consumer.
Sandcastle76
Senior Member
Looked like nail polish and fake lashes to me.
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
better a bad name than a bad balance sheet
et2
TB Fanatic
Just bought my new carry today. Moved from Ruger LCP 380 - 6 round pocket gun. Now S&W MP plus 9 mm compact. 13 round capacity & 10 round.
To much going on lately … the nuts are starting to rule and are everywhere. Had a couple close calls this last year that had me reaching.
The thugs are running around with 9mm Glocks with 30 round mags hanging out. I was way under prepared with my old carry. So I bought a belly band holster that has a few extra pockets and mag holder. Should have bought one sooner. Comfortable not hanging off my belt. I can even put the 380 in a pocket for backup.
I‘m on the road everyday. Things are getting crazy with driving, attitudes, road rage, etc. And all we see on the news.
A slight adjustment was warranted.
To much going on lately … the nuts are starting to rule and are everywhere. Had a couple close calls this last year that had me reaching.
The thugs are running around with 9mm Glocks with 30 round mags hanging out. I was way under prepared with my old carry. So I bought a belly band holster that has a few extra pockets and mag holder. Should have bought one sooner. Comfortable not hanging off my belt. I can even put the 380 in a pocket for backup.
I‘m on the road everyday. Things are getting crazy with driving, attitudes, road rage, etc. And all we see on the news.
A slight adjustment was warranted.
nomifyle
TB Fanatic
That may be because there was little left on the shelves to pick from. Blame these perps for stores closing.
They'd rather go out of business than be called racist.
That will never happen. The local knee-grows will protest and complain that the racist businesses don't want them to have access to healthcare, medicine, or any other tangible goods that their own people keep stealing.
marsh
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et2
TB Fanatic
Well that played out in a suburb of Detroit … East Detroit. It borders 8 mile and Gratiot. 8 mile one side (south) is the ghetto and East Detroit north of 8, middle class white neighborhood and plenty of Grocery stores, shopping etc, the gateway into all white suburbs for the next 9 miles. The police would pull over the blacks all the time.
The blacks eventually destroyed Detroit after the riots. No large chain grocery stores or any other business stayed. They closed up as they couldn’t afford being ripped off by the blacks non-stop. The blacks had to drive across the 8 mile dividing line to shop. So you can imagine they continued there nonsense at the stores in the non black suburbs. Cops pulled them over for years for whatever reasons they could.
About 20 years ago the blacks started suing East Detroit police for harassment. They won a few cases and it stopped. They won. The blacks with help from Obama now infiltrate once white suburbs and are taking over. I see & hear the crimes they commit often on the news. My wife and I grew up in these suburbs. One school is now 80% blacks.
They’re a disease on society … they never conform to norms … they continue their lifestyle wherever they live.
They’ll suck the life out of anywhere they live and destroy it … then move on to the next population that has social values, ethics, flourishing economy. Now they have the government and courts on their side.
There’s a reason some of their own race enslaved them and sold them to get rid of them.
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Hawkgirl_70
Veteran Member
And so.... what happened I wonder? Did he let her go or did she get arrested.
MSN
This link seems to imply that he made up the manager saying she was stealing. She has hired a lawyer.
A Seattle Walgreens security guard accused a Black woman of shoplifting and told her surveillance video caught her in the act, but then later told police there was no footage of the alleged theft.
Meika Prince posted cellphone video of her encounter with a guard at the drug store on Saturday, March 27. The guard, identified as Brian Vinegar, approached Prince and told her she must empty her pockets and relinquish store items he accused her of taking.
Security guard Brian Vinegar (right) accused Meika Prince (left) of shoplifting during her visit to a Seattle-area Walgreens where she was to pick up a prescription. (Photos: Meika Prince)© Provided by Atlanta Black Star News
Vinegar told Prince that a store manager looked at the store’s surveillance camera feed and saw Prince pocket some items.
However, Vinegar later told police there was no video surveillance capturing the incident and that he “could not clarify who told him that she was stealing,” according to a police report. He also said his body-worn video camera was not activated at the time he approached Prince.
In the video, Prince firmly pushes back against the accusations in the video she posted and demands to see the surveillance footage, but Vinegar ignores her requests and demands she hand over the items she’s accused of stealing.
“You got items on you and I need those items back,” says Vinegar at the start of the video as he flashes a light toward Prince. “Don’t touch me!” responds Prince as she steps away from the encroaching guard.
“I have a job to do, it’s not personal,” insists Vinegar.
“They watched you on camera,” he claimed.” They’re telling me right now that you have the times. Here’s the deal, I’m going to work with you.”
Prince tries to tell the guard she’s at the store to pick up her Adderall prescription and that the only item she has in her pockets is her wallet, but Vinegar still demands she show him.
Prince stood her ground, refused to show the guard the items in her pocket
“It’s either you’re calling the police, or ….,” says Prince before she’s cut off.
“You don’t get to make the rules, you don’t dictate what happens here.” says Vinegar.
At one point, when Prince starts walking away to try to leave the store, Vinegar tells her, “You’re gonna get detained. You’re gonna go to the ground,” if she doesn’t stop walking.
Prince then starts demanding Vinegar call the store manager and the police. Vinegar says if management or the police find store items on her person, she’ll go to jail. Vinegar also begins accusing her of “pulling the scam card” and calling her “a thief.”
After Prince still refuses to empty her pockets, Vinegar switches gears and starts accusing her of trespassing. He tells her to leave the store, despite his earlier threat that he would detain her.
He demands her to leave multiple times, saying that if she doesn’t, she’ll be charged with criminal trespassing and go to jail.
Prince continues demanding that he call the police or a manager, but Vinegar tells her the manager told him through his earpiece that he doesn’t want to speak with her.
Prince told Vinegar he profiled her because of her race and the way she was dressed, which the guard denied.
Prince also said she spoke with the store manager on duty during her visit who told her he never told Vinegar to investigate her for shoplifting.
The Atlanta Black Star reached out to Walgreens and the woman’s attorney for comment. Her attorney told us his office’s investigation of the incident is ongoing, but they plan to file a civil claim for assault and false imprisonment.
“Our investigation is ongoing, but at this time we expect to bring a civil claim for assault and false imprisonment, and potentially negligent hiring and supervision as well.”
Washington state law allows a security guard at a retail store to detain a shoplifting suspect if he or she has “reasonable grounds” to believe the suspect stole or was trying to steal. However, they cannot hold the shopper against their will or use force. They must wait for an officer to arrive.
Some updates from Prince’s TikTok page, @ADHDdiaries, show that she called the police herself, filed a police report, and hired an attorney.
Prince’s collection of videos related to the incident has garnered over 3 million views. In one post she thanked her supporters for helping her through the ordeal.
“I really want to say thank you to everyone who’s messaged me and supported me during this whole terrifying situation. I’m a very small non confrontational person & it’s difficult to feel safe in a world where things like this can happen to you for just trying to run errands.”
Retailers across the US with theft issues have increased the presence of armed and unarmed guards. While it doesn’t offer the “ideal” shopping environment says Mark Johnson, senior vice president of policy and government affairs at the Washington Retail Association, it’s regarded as the last step before shutting down.
Washington retailers lost approximately $3 billion to theft, according to a report from the National Retail Federation.
‘Don’t Touch Me!’: Over Zealous Walgreens Security Guard Tells ‘Very Small’ Black Woman She Was Seen on Video Stealing Items; She Calls the Police Herself to Prove Innocence
This link seems to imply that he made up the manager saying she was stealing. She has hired a lawyer.
A Seattle Walgreens security guard accused a Black woman of shoplifting and told her surveillance video caught her in the act, but then later told police there was no footage of the alleged theft.
Meika Prince posted cellphone video of her encounter with a guard at the drug store on Saturday, March 27. The guard, identified as Brian Vinegar, approached Prince and told her she must empty her pockets and relinquish store items he accused her of taking.
Security guard Brian Vinegar (right) accused Meika Prince (left) of shoplifting during her visit to a Seattle-area Walgreens where she was to pick up a prescription. (Photos: Meika Prince)© Provided by Atlanta Black Star News
Vinegar told Prince that a store manager looked at the store’s surveillance camera feed and saw Prince pocket some items.
However, Vinegar later told police there was no video surveillance capturing the incident and that he “could not clarify who told him that she was stealing,” according to a police report. He also said his body-worn video camera was not activated at the time he approached Prince.
In the video, Prince firmly pushes back against the accusations in the video she posted and demands to see the surveillance footage, but Vinegar ignores her requests and demands she hand over the items she’s accused of stealing.
“You got items on you and I need those items back,” says Vinegar at the start of the video as he flashes a light toward Prince. “Don’t touch me!” responds Prince as she steps away from the encroaching guard.
“I have a job to do, it’s not personal,” insists Vinegar.
“They watched you on camera,” he claimed.” They’re telling me right now that you have the times. Here’s the deal, I’m going to work with you.”
Prince tries to tell the guard she’s at the store to pick up her Adderall prescription and that the only item she has in her pockets is her wallet, but Vinegar still demands she show him.
Prince stood her ground, refused to show the guard the items in her pocket
“It’s either you’re calling the police, or ….,” says Prince before she’s cut off.
“You don’t get to make the rules, you don’t dictate what happens here.” says Vinegar.
At one point, when Prince starts walking away to try to leave the store, Vinegar tells her, “You’re gonna get detained. You’re gonna go to the ground,” if she doesn’t stop walking.
Prince then starts demanding Vinegar call the store manager and the police. Vinegar says if management or the police find store items on her person, she’ll go to jail. Vinegar also begins accusing her of “pulling the scam card” and calling her “a thief.”
After Prince still refuses to empty her pockets, Vinegar switches gears and starts accusing her of trespassing. He tells her to leave the store, despite his earlier threat that he would detain her.
He demands her to leave multiple times, saying that if she doesn’t, she’ll be charged with criminal trespassing and go to jail.
Prince continues demanding that he call the police or a manager, but Vinegar tells her the manager told him through his earpiece that he doesn’t want to speak with her.
Prince told Vinegar he profiled her because of her race and the way she was dressed, which the guard denied.
Prince also said she spoke with the store manager on duty during her visit who told her he never told Vinegar to investigate her for shoplifting.
The Atlanta Black Star reached out to Walgreens and the woman’s attorney for comment. Her attorney told us his office’s investigation of the incident is ongoing, but they plan to file a civil claim for assault and false imprisonment.
“Our investigation is ongoing, but at this time we expect to bring a civil claim for assault and false imprisonment, and potentially negligent hiring and supervision as well.”
Washington state law allows a security guard at a retail store to detain a shoplifting suspect if he or she has “reasonable grounds” to believe the suspect stole or was trying to steal. However, they cannot hold the shopper against their will or use force. They must wait for an officer to arrive.
Some updates from Prince’s TikTok page, @ADHDdiaries, show that she called the police herself, filed a police report, and hired an attorney.
Prince’s collection of videos related to the incident has garnered over 3 million views. In one post she thanked her supporters for helping her through the ordeal.
“I really want to say thank you to everyone who’s messaged me and supported me during this whole terrifying situation. I’m a very small non confrontational person & it’s difficult to feel safe in a world where things like this can happen to you for just trying to run errands.”
Retailers across the US with theft issues have increased the presence of armed and unarmed guards. While it doesn’t offer the “ideal” shopping environment says Mark Johnson, senior vice president of policy and government affairs at the Washington Retail Association, it’s regarded as the last step before shutting down.
Washington retailers lost approximately $3 billion to theft, according to a report from the National Retail Federation.
‘Don’t Touch Me!’: Over Zealous Walgreens Security Guard Tells ‘Very Small’ Black Woman She Was Seen on Video Stealing Items; She Calls the Police Herself to Prove Innocence