ENVR This new crackdown on semi-trucks could save thousands of lives

Countrybumpkin

Veteran Member
They actually believe this stuff...




At the end of 2022, the government finalized new standards for heavy-duty trucks and buses under the Clean Trucks Plan, an Environmental Protection Agency effort to curb polluting gases in the transportation sector. These new regulations are 80% stronger than the ones they’ll replace.


This is especially important because heavy-duty vehicles are a particular concern when it comes to pollution. Diesel engines, more commonly found in such vehicles, create greater amounts of nitrogen oxides (or NOx) than conventional gas-powered engines do. This compound reacts with other chemicals in the air to create pollution that can cause a variety of respiratory diseases, like asthma.

These new regulations will help curb these toxic fumes in several ways. By 2027, all new heavy-duty vehicles will be required to meet a lowered NOx output, and they’ll have control systems that can resist tampering by drivers trying to get around the law.

Additionally, manufacturers will have to account for the NOx emissions created when these heavy-duty vehicles are idling, which is critical.


Heavy-duty vehicles create dangerous NOx most often during these “low-load” periods, which is when the engine is running but the vehicle isn’t moving — like waiting at a loading dock or being caught in stop-and-go traffic. These are also the periods of time when pedestrians, workers, or even passengers will be in closest proximity to these toxic fumes, so curtailing them will reduce their impact on respiratory health.

The Environmental Protection Agency predicts a 48% reduction of NOx pollution from heavy-duty vehicles by 2045, which would mean approximately 18,000 fewer cases of childhood asthma.

As a complement to these regulations, the EPA also announced new rules on April 12 to set “more stringent standards“ for trucks produced after 2028. Until greener modes of transport become more common, new regulations are an important step in the fight for cleaner air and a healthier planet for everyone.


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Luddite

Veteran Member
I spent a portion of my working life loading trucks with a specific product. It took a couple hours to load so I had opportunity to talk to many of them. Some I loaded once or twice a week.

Say, logistically they're slow getting loaded by an hour. Say road work or accidents slow them a couple more hours. Say they're 3 hours from destination and run out of log book time.

SAY IT IS 100 degrees outside. Or 5 below zero. Where are they going to park without idling their truck?. How are they logistically going make delivery when customer expects?

These scenarios aren't rare. They happen every day.

Stringent regulations like this put further stress on a JIT delivery system. It makes every product more expensive.

All for questionable "science".
 

workhorse

Veteran Member
Wondering what will happen to the kids riding school buses when they can only stop an idle for a certain period. Your 3 minutes are up and your kids aren’t all out got to go it’s the law or we get fined for too much emissions.
 

Jackpine Savage

Veteran Member
Heavy-duty vehicles create dangerous NOx most often during these “low-load” periods, which is when the engine is running but the vehicle isn’t moving — like waiting at a loading dock or being caught in stop-and-go traffic. These are also the periods of time when pedestrians, workers, or even passengers will be in closest proximity to these toxic fumes, so curtailing them will reduce their impact on respiratory health.

A friend's stepson is lineman and is driving a new truck that shuts down every time he stops. It takes time to restart, so it just slows the job down. I don't think this will help in stop and go traffic :lol:

Years ago, when I was milking cows, the milk hauler got a new truck. It was programmed to shut off after 5 minutes of idling. The only problem was the engine ran the vacuum pump that sucked the milk out of our bulk tank. So he had to run back and forth and hit the go pedal. They eventually got it reprogrammed :lol:

There's always unintended consequences.
 

Griz3752

Retired, practising Curmudgeon
Climate change = Hoax
Not entirely but not all attributable to NA or even EU. There is some cyclical climate change in our history and the future. A lot of the historical change was related to population growth and then manufactring.

Today, the bulk of it comes from manufacturing in China & India. A fair bit comes from less stringent standards in Mexico too; a direct result of outsourcing manufacturing to that country to take advantage of lower everything; wages, benefits, taxes and yes environmental standards.

But Mexico is a piker compared to the amount of pollution PRC & India spew out annually. It always amazed me how the Free World felt obligated to come up with Paris Accord type efforts/programs to offset those levels and PRC & India just carried on, often ignoring those efforts......

I love to see numbers comparing NA transport-generated NOx versus the amount PRC outputs over any period of time. Pretty sure the true villains in this piece will be clearly IDed.
 

Ractivist

Pride comes before the fall.....Pride month ended.
Anthropogenic (man caused) climate change is negligible. Compare that with the geo engineering of our sky's, weather control. Dumping highly toxic nano particles into the air you breath, the soil you grow food in..... That's man caused, evil men pretending to care, who use the tools in hand to further an evil agenda.
 

Just Plain Mom

Alien Lizard Person
I spent a portion of my working life loading trucks with a specific product. It took a couple hours to load so I had opportunity to talk to many of them. Some I loaded once or twice a week.

Say, logistically they're slow getting loaded by an hour. Say road work or accidents slow them a couple more hours. Say they're 3 hours from destination and run out of log book time.

SAY IT IS 100 degrees outside. Or 5 below zero. Where are they going to park without idling their truck?. How are they logistically going make delivery when customer expects?

These scenarios aren't rare. They happen every day.

Stringent regulations like this put further stress on a JIT delivery system. It makes every product more expensive.

All for questionable "science".
I certainly agree with you that this makes everything more expensive for the sake of questionable "science." And yes, truck drivers are put into difficult situations every day, as well for the sake of government regulation made up by people who do NOT drive trucks. That said:

Son's truck has an APU, which I think stands for alternative power unit. It runs while the truck is off (on diesel, the same tank), and makes a huge racket. But it keeps it tolerable in the cab and especially sleeper when it's hot or cold outside.

He pays $70 per week for its lease, and it goes with the truck when the truck goes. That is, of course, tax deductible.

Son teaches his trainees to research. Not only what it looks like when you get to a shipper or a receiver (so you don't get yourself in a bind that you can't drive out of), but also the potential stops along the way--just in case--and fuel prices. So if he realizes he's going to be late, he knows where he'll need to stop (and then he messages Dispatch to let the receiver know). Depending on the time, he can get on an app and reserve a parking spot. (Of course, the truck stop would have to actually honor that; sometimes, people park in the reserved spots and the truck stop declines to do anything about it. They shrug and you lose your money.) And some drivers will just stop wherever, but Son does not believe that's safe.

As well, and depending on the company (a lot of things happen depending on the company's reputation), there is a way to drive a little further if you'd be stopping somewhere unsafe when your time runs out. I admit I'm a little foggy on the rules--and there are many--but it's a small grace for safety. The company Son contracts with discourages the use of this, Son and his trainees do not use it.
 

Wildweasel

F-4 Phantoms Phorever
They actually believe this stuff...




At the end of 2022, the government finalized new standards for heavy-duty trucks and buses under the Clean Trucks Plan, an Environmental Protection Agency effort to curb polluting gases in the transportation sector. These new regulations are 80% stronger than the ones they’ll replace.


This is especially important because heavy-duty vehicles are a particular concern when it comes to pollution. Diesel engines, more commonly found in such vehicles, create greater amounts of nitrogen oxides (or NOx) than conventional gas-powered engines do. This compound reacts with other chemicals in the air to create pollution that can cause a variety of respiratory diseases, like asthma.

These new regulations will help curb these toxic fumes in several ways. By 2027, all new heavy-duty vehicles will be required to meet a lowered NOx output, and they’ll have control systems that can resist tampering by drivers trying to get around the law.

Additionally, manufacturers will have to account for the NOx emissions created when these heavy-duty vehicles are idling, which is critical.


Heavy-duty vehicles create dangerous NOx most often during these “low-load” periods, which is when the engine is running but the vehicle isn’t moving — like waiting at a loading dock or being caught in stop-and-go traffic. These are also the periods of time when pedestrians, workers, or even passengers will be in closest proximity to these toxic fumes, so curtailing them will reduce their impact on respiratory health.

The Environmental Protection Agency predicts a 48% reduction of NOx pollution from heavy-duty vehicles by 2045, which would mean approximately 18,000 fewer cases of childhood asthma.

As a complement to these regulations, the EPA also announced new rules on April 12 to set “more stringent standards“ for trucks produced after 2028. Until greener modes of transport become more common, new regulations are an important step in the fight for cleaner air and a healthier planet for everyone.


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Now realize that current emissions rules require trucks to produce exhaust that IS CLEANER than the air going into the engine in places like Los Angeles.

How in Hell do you reduce current near zero emissions (95% cleaner than before current rules) by another 48%? The law of diminishing returns says that 48% reduction in 5% of the original emissions problem is going to cost over 100% more than the current rules that eliminated the first 95%.

And that 95% emissions reduction cost billions upon billions of dollars. This new plan with cost the current-day equivalent of those billions and billions of dollars plus at least the same amount on top of it.

A better plan would be to get other countries to adopt and enforce current US standards to reduce their pollution, even if the US has to subsidize their adoption of those standards. If they want to reduce global warming attacking the problem globally and not just in the US would yield more results.

But we all know it really isn't about getting global results at emissions reduction, isn't it?
 
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